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posted on April 08, 2021 by shows

In this episode, Donn talks about the best way to learn a new technology from the ground up. Want to learn something new?  This episode is for you. You'll learn Donn's proven 5-step methodology for learning new technology. This is the same method Donn has used for over 2 decades of learning new technology. We hope it helps you. Shownotes The 5 Steps: Choose a Simple Problem Domain (Note Takin

 
 
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no no no
it's Thursday
Yesterday was a glorious evening, Chelsea winning 2-0 in the Champions League
 
Look at the bright side, you're 1 day closer to the next victory of Chelsea
 
Or 1 day closer to them losing
:(
 
Hahaha but you're still 1 day closer to them winning someday :D
 
9:45 AM
@Mehdi frogets*
 
Hahaha
 
10:04 AM
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Apr 8 '20 at 20:15, by grrigore
give them some whiskey
 
 
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12:29 PM
@MarkO'Sullivan whaat you a chelsea fan?
you won vs porto
the easiest one in UCL atm
:P
 
 
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1:51 PM
Hi all
How can I get this functionality in Android ?youtube.com/watch?v=Ah_Zitni1y4
Search icon-> Click to expand EditText Type and When ever user click on EditText right corner cross icon then it move to again Search icon.
 
I am currently developing a personal LIFU stack... Last In gets a Fuck You... my ToDo is growing... I could literally just work 8h on adding stuff to my todo list instead of actually work on those topics
 
lol
 
Tim
lol
 
I am playing product owner, project manager, scrum master, dev and in between I try to solve issues of other people...
and recruiting of course
 
posted on April 07, 2021 by Android Developers

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2:04 PM
lol
 
I have three empty coffee mugs on my table... so I am literally too blocked in my mind to realize that I need to bring my mug down with me if I want a new coffee and instead of walking back up & down two stories I just bring a new mug with me ... just today
 
feel you
my company is looking for an android dev
 
I am not a dev anymore
otherwise I would just work on tickets :)
 
you could be a dev
 
not again please
the few hours I manage to code currently is enough
 
2:13 PM
you could do that 8h a day again
 
2:34 PM
Morning
 
o/
 
@grrigore I am indeed!
 
well I m a city fan
and the answer is NO i didn't start to support them because they started winning
 
2:51 PM
Yeah like a "fan" would ever be honest enough to admit that :)
just kidding, I am a Borussia Dortmund fan
 
haha
well that was a boring one from my point of view
 
I dk shit about football
 
you know enough to not call it soccer. So you are already enlightened enough :)
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I have to prep some dinner, afk
 
fútbol
 
@WarrenFaith hahaha
 
3:03 PM
do you use any permission libraries?
 
@JBis in germany they call it "HINTERDIEBALLELAUFENUNDSCHIESSEN!"
 
manchester united is the best
exclusively because of the scenes from eurotrip
 
haha
 
No U! Atletico Madrid is the best
 
nuh uh real madrid is betterrrrr
 
3:05 PM
the F you just said?? Chelsea is the best !!!!
 
lol
y all losers
city is the best
xD
 
you guys never heared of FC Urk lol
 
Didnt the us like not qualify for Olympics?
 
unno
who cares about north american soccer
it's all about that european fooooootball maaaaaaaaaan
 
Am I the only one that doesn't watch the olympics?
 
3:09 PM
that being said isn't the woman's team good from the US ?
@JBis nah I don't either
except for summer olympics, in which case I watch the women's volleyball
 
did you guys read the 2021 Edelman trust barometer, it's very interesting but depressing af
 
what s that?
 
I don't trust it
3
 
sounds like a scam to give me a brochure i dont want
 
3:10 PM
economy trust? something?
 
Trust the IT supply company?
 
how was china's trust index at 90
yet the USA was at 53
automatically sus
 
@ballBreaker you will trust someone if they point a gun to you saying "trust me, or else"
 
haha
 
@JBis hahaha
> BUSINESS BECOMES ONLY TRUSTED INSTITUTION
...
 
3:11 PM
lol
 
anyway
BYE!
see ya
 
ahh yes trustworthy business... the institution that has everyone's safety as a number 1 priority
 
have fun
 
cya grrig
 
cya
 
3:12 PM
o/ grig
 
@ballBreaker yeah I don't get why it's so high :D
 
me either
can't believe people trust comapnies that much lol that's insane
lol
> Note: Slide 26 of the 2021 Trust Barometer was updated on March 16, 2020.
 
I guess it depends how you define government
 
o/
 
I generally trust that the gov provides accurate information but I also trust that they will fuck up anything they are tasked with doing
"build a bridge" accidentally pays $20 trillion for a brick
 
3:18 PM
lol
pretty accurATE TBH
 
Tim
\o
 
heya timmay
nice just got an amber alert on my phone for a stay-at-home order
 
Tim
report abuse
 
tbf I had no idea there was one if I didn't get the alert
 
i wonder how easy it would be to replay an amber alert
 
3:27 PM
replay in what sense?
Also you guys ever have a vivid dream that makes you just feel SOOOOOOO good during the dream, and then you wake up and realize that it was a dream, and then get crushed for a few days from it
 
@ballBreaker lets keep this sfw bb
 
hahah
wasn't a wet dream but fair
you friggin pervert
 
yep looks like it using Cell Broadcast which is easily replicated
probably illegal but you could theoretically run around sending amber alerts to people
 
it would be a huge federal offense, yeah
 
@ballBreaker just tell them you identify as a hobo
 
3:31 PM
lol
when you're homeless the whole world is your home
 
> Woman with the world's longest nails cuts them after nearly 30 years
 
if they don't comply just tell them not to be transhoboic
 
... alright I'm done with internet today...
 
in fact, it looks like cell providers sell mini cell towers you could use
 
So I had a dream that a girl I was in love with where things ended circumstantially (she moved away), came back into my life and it's been something lingering in my subconscious that I try to bury as best I can. But sometimes it'll pop up in my dreams and then fuck me up for days after.. I'll remember parts from the dream like they were real memories and it really sucks
 
3:33 PM
that would be a funny senior prank
 
I'm pretty sure cell towers don't 'just work' like that though but maybe I'm worng
I would imagine that a cell provider has to actually use the tower and allow traffic/cell routing to flow through it
seems like that'd be a recipe for disaster to just let people buy that willynilly
 
@ballBreaker no
@ballBreaker it is
from my understanding, phones just autoconnect to nearest cell tower (without verifying it's legit) and all the protocols used don't have protections
and the ones they sell are for consumers. they are sold as extenders but basically what they do is proxy cell tower information. Your phone autoconnects.
 
that doesn't sound legit to me haha
ah gotcha
so they aren't unique cell towers but rather extending the range to an existing tower
that would make way more sense
 
but it's transparent to the phone (mostly) and completely to the user. It pretends to be a new closer tower but instead of connecting to a satellite or whatever it forwards the information to a real tower. But you can intercept it before it does that.
here's a talk if you are interested
 
3:57 PM
intersting
I learned about cell towers a decent bit when I had to get a CISCO cert back in the day
can't remember whythat was a part of it
 
cool
yeah the cell network seems to be such an antiquated technology
 
in a way yeah
radio is also antiquated but it's pretty necessary
 
4:16 PM
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Tim
\o
 
4:32 PM
o7
 
4:49 PM
Hey guys
 
Tim
hey guy
 
guy, hey
 
5:05 PM
Hola, good people of r15
 
yo yo
 
Tim
hi peop
 
In a way that I could conceive of in my wildest dreams, I envision a scenario in which a digital gathering of like minded people, from all across the world, meet in a single digital space, wherein I join this crowd, and upon further reflection, desire to send to each and every one of them the most joyful and hearty of greetings.
 
random question, if you want to start an android app from scatch how long does it take to get everything setup before you can start building your app?
for example if you always use a certain UI framework and that requires setup, add that to the time
 
in general?
 
5:16 PM
yeah
 
there are lots of templates out there for a lot of android apps, so theoretically you could start within about 1 hour
pretty easily
 
no templates, setting up yourself
 
Guys, I'm having a super odd behaviour from squareup.okttp, It always refuse connection and throws thsi error

io.swagger.client.ApiException: java.net.ConnectException: Failed to connect to my-app.nw.r.appspot.com/2a00:1450:4006:804:0:0:0:2014:443


I find this really confusing. The URL was passed as https://my-app.nw.r.appspot.com/api/authentication.

I wonder why there are many numbers with colons in the URL. Anyone has seen this before?
 
2a00:1450:4006:804:0:0:0:2014 is an ipv6 ip address
443 is https port
its a webserver
 
the url is https:// my-app.nw.r.appspot.com/api/authentication though. Why did it make this change? and why is an ipv6 appended to the url?
 
5:21 PM
do you have code?
 
I do. But it's too many layers of abstractions. Let me try to simplify it and share it here in a minute
 
@MohamedTaherAlrefaie I read that as "domain/IP", not a URL.
 
What do you mean?
 
I mean the error message shows both the domain name and the IP address for that doman.
The / in the format of the output is just a separator, not indicating a path.
 
I can't check the actual server because i don't have an ipv6 ip
 
5:25 PM
I don't think my server supports IPV6 ...
 
its owned by google in ireland
 
aaah, it makes sense that the error is showing both values. It's an app engine app so the google ip makes sense. I'm just really confused why okttp decided to not be able to communicate out of the blue. Even though it was working just fine a week ago
 
did their SSL cert change?
has happened to me before out of the blue
 
How do I check for that?
 
who's ssl? go to the site and see if your browser complains
 
5:34 PM
no my browser is fine. I suspect the okhttp I'm using cannot handle the updated ssl certificate
I'm using version 2.7.5
 
whats the site? you can check the cert in your browser
 
site says TLS_128
 
should say something more like
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 
5:56 PM
oi
 
and thats why only 3 people in the world know how tls works
    TLS_            ECDHE_                ECDSA_WITH_        AES_128_GCM_   SHA256
     ^-protocol    ^-key exchange     ^-authentication     ^-encryption        ^ hash

ciphersuite.info/cs/TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 
@RaghavSood, @DaveS, @Mauker, @Pochmurnik, @CptEric, @Graeme, @ballBreaker, @Jordy, @WarrenFaith, @grrigore, @Reno, @CrabsStew, @bluetoothfx, @Code-Apprentice This is your weekly reminder of New Free Games on Epic Store!!!! :)
 
thank you woompy
 
6:21 PM
thanks womps!
 
Hola, good people of r15
 
heya nyak
 
Sorry, first time did not count, I got jumped on by a wild dev in the tall grass
 
oh wow
without your consent?
 
Tim
6:38 PM
Did you beat him?
 
It's the techlead
I don't have enough badges to handle him
 
hahaha
 
7:01 PM
I visit this guy's channel for a laugh, and i never really know when he's serious and when he's trolling
 
is that the google guy
 
It is
If you refer to that guy that worked at google as the google guy
If not, no, he is not
 
Yeah the guy who worked at google and fb (as a millionnaire)
 
let me furioously zoom into this one on toronto
 
Tim
7:07 PM
he actually pinned it, my man
 
Takes a real frikandel fan to create such a map :D
 
@Mehdi interesting lol
I've realized that I don't like to watch videos of people with seemingly more interesting lives than my own
so I'll pass
basically I am boycotting all videos
 
@ballBreaker Said the second most interesting drama provider of r15
 
haha
my drama has been so boring lately i feel like
 
That's why you're second and Mw strip teasing to his new gf in front of her friends who he had not met previously is first
(That was a long and hard sentence)
 
7:16 PM
hahahaha
at least it wasn't a short and flaccid sentence about mwb strip teasing
 
@ballBreaker well you already trash talked him in the past XD
 
hahahaha I do remember this
 
You remember what you said about him? :D
 
mmmm not fully
probably something about him being a rich guy trying to resonate with poor people
or somethin
hahah what did I say, do you remember?
 
I do actually XD here you go
 
7:26 PM
hahahaahhaha
oh my god
not what I was expecting at all
 
Tim
I feel like mehdi is worse than me when it comes to this
Apr 1 '19 at 13:34, by Tim Castelijns
Feb 7 at 13:35, by Tim Castelijns
Oct 1 '18 at 8:27, by Tim Castelijns
I bookmark nothing. This is my funky brain. Unable to remember how to convert string to int, but remembers particular words in messages I posted last year making them easy to look up
because he also knows it for others
 
Hahahhaa
I actually don't remember my messages but remember other people's XD
Especially when I can't make sense of someone's thoughts process like bb's message XD
 
hahaha
yeah I can't remember anything I say, but I loosely remember other people's things, but definitely not to the level you guys do
 
Now ask me how what's the difference between a red-black and a binary tree is
 
7:44 PM
You guys remember stuff? What for? We have google for that...
 
The tech industry seems to be forgetting that when hiring / interviewing
 
lol yeah
I didn't even a coding interview for this job eh
it was truly amazing
that's partially why I never want to leave
lmao
I hope more companies follow suit with smarter interviewing practices though, like really, how hard is to come up with 3 questions, give someone a laptop w/ an IDE and be, like alright here you go... have fun
I'd way rather get cozy with an interviewees code than tell them to come up with a solution to a university problem on the spot on a whiteboard
totally fucking joke is what that is
I may have strong opinions about this topic
 
I'm more of the idea of giving people 1 week for a case study / problem to solve that should take 4h grand max. And let them pitch you their solution
 
that works too
could be a combo
I was thinking last night about just having a few questions all with their own purpose, yours would be a great one for communicating coding ideas, one like I described would be great for seeing someone's code, and I was thinking another one would be giving someone a broken project and telling them to fix the bugs in it
could get a pretty good idea of their overall prowess from something like that, plus I'm always curious to see how people debug
 
@Tim lol
this is gold
 
7:56 PM
Eh the interviewing process is very broken in our industry. Can't believe we couldn't find a good standard in +20 years
 
YES!
I agree
 
yeah and people taking google's approach and running with it and making it the standard was really stupid
I think if people are making textbooks specifically for cheating the coding interview, then clearly it's a bad process
but its also the laziest and easiest approach so I get it
it's good for interviewees too because you can weed out the companies that do that
 
I'd just let people present their work and ask questions based on that
 
honestly same, I'd mostly trust their resume and references
 
and you ll also see what type of person that person is
 
7:59 PM
and if I really needed to know, give a small coding questoin with a laptop and see
but if I was going to get super serious about it I'd do something like i said above
@grrigore very true
that's basically what my current company did
 
and how did it end?
 
@Mehdi Except companies gives you 1 week project that actually takes a week. And you have other tests do do at the same time. That's always a pleasure
 
@Nyakouai Yes that's a hard no. The ones that do that usually give you a problem that they need to and couldn't solve, basically free labor. I did that once when the company promised to pay me the day, their architect had a lengthy discussion with me about it the next day. Said i was hired, then i kept waiting for that offer and that 1 day remuneration.... XD
That was a lesson for me, to never accept more than a 3-4h max task
 
I had a company notorious for making bad copy cat of mobile games asking me to take a game on any store, change one mechanic, and send them, with all the code
 
Wtf
 
8:06 PM
So I took Flappy bird, put a nice little spin, but the rules didn't allow, so I changed something
I then explained (CAUSE I'M STUPID LIKE THAT) what I would have done
Then said the version I'd have done was better, but the version I delivered was not up to par
Basically, they expected you to be a whole team yourself, cause that's what you were gonna be as a "dev" with them (little to no artist support), and they took the applications as nice free labour
 
mehdi did you use confusion_matrix?
nvm
 
@Nyakouai exactly
another one asked me to write a script that scraps a website, I took a look at the structure of the website and understood why they wanted me to do it. It was very complex, and probably wanted another pair of eyes
@grrigore yes
 
I've found out about classification_report
:D
 
ah nice
 
bb you should check out jaden's latest album
 
8:27 PM
jaden smith?
@Mehdi lmao that's so scummy
 
yeah needless to say I didn't do it
 
Mehdi, fighting scummy companies one hiring process at a time
Imma gonna go, cya all
 
cya dude
@Mehdi yeah that's smart
I had a dream last night that I went into a coding interview, they asked me to code on the whiteboard and then I just sat there and analyzed their hiring process with them
 
Cya Nyak!
 
the timing of this conversation is kinda jokes haha
25 year old me walked out of a coding interview when they asked me to start doing that
I'll never forget how shocked they were
 
8:34 PM
@ballBreaker yeah I was about to ask whether it's like one of those stories we see on linkedin
 
@ballBreaker ye
 
hahaha I feel like if you started to analyze someone's hiring process as an interviewee they'd be like gtfo
so yeah maybe someone just had a dream like I did and then wrote out an article abou tit
 
LI influencers: "I interviewed a candidate who had a 2y hole in their resumé, very polite, seemingly desperate, they said: I will accept a salary cut, just give me a chance, please. I looked at them, read the genuineness and commitment in their eyes. So I gave them 150% of the fixed salary of similar positions. I am very compassionate, please be compassionate"
 
lmao
linked in influencer
linked influencer
 
what
 
8:43 PM
I stopped looking at linkedin a long long time ago so I'll just have to trust your word on that
 
influncers are everywhere
we should name a R15 influencer
 
once I realized that women didn't want me to try to pick them up over it, the appeal was lost
 
haha
lost is kinda cool bb
:P
 
the show?
 
9:04 PM
Not got another girlfriend yet BB?
 
not yet :<
@Graeme you ever read the first law trilogy by joe abercrombie?
 
Yup
While ago now
 
I just found out he has a continuation second series lol fml, first law is my fave trilogy I'm upset with myself but also stoked I have 2 books now
 
Just finished reading Brandon Sanderson so anything i read next will suffer by comparison
 
by continuation I mean 28 years later w/ different characters
haha
his latest stormlight archive one?
 
9:11 PM
Yup
 
nice :D remember when I told you it released and you were like who the fuck is this creep
but yeah that book and series is a 10/10
also gtg to dentist o/
 
Good luck
I just got to type "man bash" for work purposes
tee hee
 
10:00 PM
I hate Gradle. Always have
I want to execute a command line task if it exists, and just skip it if it doesn't - apparently that's impossible >.<
 
Tim
just run it and try catch org.gradle.execution.TaskSelectionException
 
I don't know how to catch things in Gradle
Plus, be nice to be able to do things without expecting exceptions :P
 
Tim
just put a try catch
gradle syntax is almost same as java
 
It's nothing like java :P
 
Tim
10:18 PM
I mean that you can write java in a gradle file and it will almost always work
 
Oh - yeah I'm changing someone elses gradle file so no luck there
 
Tim
oh yikes
 
Annoying that I picked up Kotlin in a couple of days, and I've been working with Gradle for years and still don't really know how to use it :P
Anyway, I'm off to the sun. Catcha later
 
Tim
same here, gradle is a mystery and every little thing you want to do has to be googled
later
 
10:53 PM
@Tim nooo
gradle is actually really awesome, once you learn the basics
one thing I would absolutely suggest to everyone, migrate your groovy to kts, having autocompletion will change your life
 

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