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5:00 PM
What things should I learn before applying for an android dev job? (beside android)
 
OOP, Java, Kotlin?
 
@MuratKaragรถz coffee.
 
Pie
You should have a few working projects @TaseerAhmad
 
@grrigore yes
 
5:05 PM
thank you, Tim
 
@Pie Lets say I put 2 somewhat big working projects on playstore, what else skill should I know for a junior post?
 
Pie
you should familiar with android libraries
 
And git
 
I will put up what I know so you guys can better guide
I know: git, little experience in writing Java code, know Kotlin, little experience in networking(has worked on volley only)
Has 'somewhat' experience with MVVM
 
Pie
@TimCastelijns is right for startup have small teams.
usually you work on your own project
but with large companies
and large teams
git is vital
since other develoopers can contribute
to your code
 
5:19 PM
And I don't have a degree right now*
 
Pie
with startup does not matter
I had a colleague who was execellent graphic designer
He did not had any degree
but he had expierience in adobe illustrator and adobe photoshop
he was hired immediately
 
git is essential no matter the team size or project type
 
What about espresso and unit testing?
 
nice to know, no must, can learn on the job
 
Most jobs here require a degree
I think I will just apply
 
Pie
5:23 PM
it depends on company
are you old enough to work
?
 
What about Firebase? Is it really important to deep dive into it?
Yes
 
depends on project. Can learn on the job
 
^
timmy did you solve your issue?
 
That means I just need to upload least 2 projects before I can apply
 
no I went home
 
Pie
5:27 PM
yeah I had a working project before i applied
@TaseerAhmad
 
also depends taseer. I never had an app in the store and I just applied anyway
 
Pie
I put it on job portal
before I applied I got more offers after that
 
tim ok
 
Pie
@TaseerAhmad
 
Hmm, I have been working on an app, it pretty much covers most of the app development stuff
 
5:31 PM
you might think that, but it doesn't
but that's ok
 
Yes, I know there are so many things but what I meant is that it covers most the 'basic' stuff you need to prepare an app and put on the play store
The app covers from disk related stuff to cloud storage
 
user443346
You know what I hate? DHL. Shitheads didn't deliver my parcel - was at home - in fact, someone rang my door for money begging - found out later that the DHL app showed me status "We missed you" at the EXACT same time as the guy who rang my door for charity stuff.
 
user443346
And again Germany screwed me over.
 
xD
 
Pie
5:35 PM
@TaseerAhmad You must have one net related app .like a e commerce
I think that will cover all the basics needed for app developement
 
I believe networking department is where I am lacking
@RaymondArteaga Watching it
 
Pie
do you know how to use retrofit and volley
@TaseerAhmad
 
I know Volley only
 
retrofit
 
Pie
some companies use angular or react for app developement
one company once asked me that have I ever worked in woo commerce
WooCommerce is an open-source e-commerce plugin for WordPress
@TaseerAhmad
in react
 
5:46 PM
@Taseer just say you have a degree and photoshop a diploma if they ask for one
boom, problem solved
 
Pie
@TaseerAhmad One company first tested my java skills before hiring me for android
 
@Pie Well, that sucks for me if it happens. I know started development with Kotlin
I did write Java for a month a year ago
 
Pie
no worries
 
1 year C++ experience
 
Pie
problem is some legacy projects are still in java
that's why companies ask you about java
same in ios
they write in both objective c and swift
 
5:51 PM
I found one job listing that I match about 70% of the requirements
 
Pie
go for it
 
They don't ask a degree as well
 
@TaseerAhmad see 17:24 you'll see that even Google recommends stupid things, there's nothing like a perfect architecture
Oops, sorry for the interruption
 
@RaymondArteaga It's hard being a perfectionist :P
 
They're even taking about reflection to fix the mess XD
 
5:53 PM
I think they are a group of freelancers
 
@CarlAnderson funny on the literal and figurative sense XD
 
6:11 PM
Anyone miss Windows phones?
 
Yes, it lived so long that it left a special mark in my heart :(
 
6:34 PM
Savage
 
Job specs are usually only used to shortlist you before the team get's to see your resume and interview you
After that point they're kind of useless
 
What could cause this: java.lang.ClassCastException: android.support.v7.widget.RecyclerView$LayoutParams cannot be cast to android.support.constraint.ConstraintLayout$LayoutParams ?
@TaseerAhmad I do!
 
Hello
 
o/
 
7:00 PM
omg...
I just got a call from the place I bitched out yesterday for their horrible password security
Most awkward phone conversation of my LIFE
 
so? what happened?
 
The guy pulled a sherlocke holmes and traced my name SOMEHOW from my email, one that doesn't involve my real name at all.. then found the account linked to the name.. and called me. He basically just wanted to talk about it with me, and tell me why they have such archaic password security
and then said he'll be putting in a complaint on my behalf about it
But I'm in perma-cringe because I had to be like "Yeaaaaa, sorry about how that was worded..."
literally never thought I would get an email response, let alone a direct phone call
 
haha
life :D
 
ugh
my soul
 
So what were the reasons behind?
 
7:07 PM
They have phone authentication for people calling in w/ their password
so they can't have symbols
and the character limitation is because of their legacy systems
and I know all about that pain
At least they lock your account after 3 failed attempts
 
good to know
 
Yeah. I can't shake the awkwardness though
Might need alcohol for that later tonight
 
should have recorded the call
 
oh god no, I never want to relive that
I got fired from my first job over the phone when I was 14, and the manager yelled and swore at me for 5 minutes
 
o/
 
7:10 PM
and I would prefer that over what I just had
 
Hey Mauker :)
 
Hey Grr!
Oh, now I sound upset lol
 
hehe
 
what does: "your shipment has been delivered to your neighbor" mean???? (i really hope it's just a bad google translation)
 
It means that your shipment has been delivered to your neighbor
So he's got your shipment delivered
 
7:18 PM
who's this neighbor? I have 25 neighbors... I didn't provide an alternative address, and I didn't get notified by text / email / phone
 
Obviously one of them
Can you call them?
 
it's too late, it's 21h20
 
Call your neighbors :P
 
but I find it absurd that a company of the size of DHL can do something like that without my consent instead of just dropping the package on an alternative packet shop and write down on the tracking system which one is it !
this is probably the pinnacle of supply chain management, exciting times
DHL sucks!
 
Call your friends, call your wife
 
7:30 PM
guess I'm just gonna knock on every door...
 
Talking of statements that may make the room an unsafe space...
Pssst, Mehdi, the R work is becoming more "grade a" in terms of inpolite words to say ;)
 
I didn't know, sorry
 
Haha, that's why I told you. No judgement from me :)
 
thanks :D
 
It didn't used to be not that long ago - but then I remember that I'm an old man
 
7:32 PM
when is one considered old? :D
 
When Carl say so
 
@ballBreaker meh. that doesn't seem too difficult.
 
When you use a phrase from your childhood and everyone arounds you puts their hands to their mouths in shock and then ask you to leave
 
Hahaha
 
That makes more sense
 
7:50 PM
@JBis shut ur mouth
Sorry wait, people on the internet don't understand that's a joke
Read that response in a jovial way
@Graeme thats retarded
I have the feeling I jsut got flagged twice in a row
 
@ballBreaker This can get quite annoying. And then you aren't sure if someone did or didn't interpret it as a joke, but if you ask them then it ruins the joke. But sometimes they do interpret it as a joke, but it just wasn't funny. But then your not really sure. And you will never know.....aajahjajahjhdjfhasdfads
 
@JBis Ahh annoying for me, yeah, and annoying for you, also yeah
 
o/ all
 
\o dave
 
well well well look who it is
hows the new job?
 
7:55 PM
Some things definitely translate poorly over text
 
@DaveS Amazing!
 
yeah like my bank account
 
I just passed through the probation period :D
 
congrats!
so that's why you're back
2
 
Thanks!
LMAO
 
7:56 PM
you're locked in
 
Maybe I shouldn't go into this field. People seem to be looking for new jobs constantly oO
 
I got my package!
@JBis the cool thing is that it's not badly perceived by the market
 
shit
 
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7:59 PM
lol
 
(removed)
 
damnit Mauker!
 
:D
 
fuck
I might have to go to the raptors game tonight
just to get myself out of permanent awkwardness
 
the guy who called you is just an employee, who probably forgot about you 2min after the call
just get over it
 
8:03 PM
I will
after a beer
The fact he's an employee doesn't take away the fact that he's a human being
 
so when you sent your email, you thought it was gonna be intercepted by an AI?
 
Nah I just thought A) no one would read it and b) if they responded it'd be by email and c) that it wasn't tied to me directly through my relation with the company since I used a random af email
 
nvm
 
so the fact they read it, called me, and knew who I was was overall entirely unexpected, like a 0.1% chance in my head when I sent it off
Now I know
 
it's actually easier than you think
 
8:11 PM
The only reason the guy knew was because he went to the same university as me
 
@ballBreaker Hey now, you know better.
 
I got really unlucky
 
so you're actually just mad that you got caught, not the fact that you were mean to them, right? XD
 
both
I probably should have worded it more professionally instead of being a total A-hole
 
"probably" :D
 
8:16 PM
Estas Tonne <3
 
Haha, why not just never be an asshole?
 
@grrigore you are casting the wrong view. Check if your findviewbyid is using the correct ID. It's not.
 
"Check if. It's not."
 
@Graeme I don't understand
 
8:37 PM
installing on my new phone the 3 apps I use
4 sorry, I just remembered medium
 
@TimCastelijns Yes, there was a problem with an id... but strange that AS didn't warn me that the id was not declared in the layout...
 
@Mauker lol
 
9:00 PM
I love Radiohead, they're such a cool group of dudes
 
Manifest merger failed : Attribute application@appComponentFactory value=(android.support.v4.app.CoreComponentFactory) from [com.android.support:support-compat:28.0.0] AndroidManifest.xml:22:18-91
	is also present at [androidx.core:core:1.0.1] AndroidManifest.xml:22:18-86 value=(androidx.core.app.CoreComponentFactory).
	Suggestion: add 'tools:replace="android:appComponentFactory"' to <application> element at AndroidManifest.xml:9:5-55:19 to override.
 
You're a creep
 
help :(
 
@TimCastelijns XD
 
9:01 PM
Funny that they're still asking for money for it though
 
Yeah it's not even cheap, for tangentially interesting
 
I wonder if it'll make em 150,000
I think that's what they're going for
a big middle finger to the hacker
Hopefully the guy just uploads it to piratebay so I get the best of both worlds
 
@grrigore time to migrate to androidx bro
 
I hope it's not..
 
it's inevitable, do it asap
 
9:05 PM
I'm trying to use this library hopefully I've found a solution
 
@grrigore I believe that error happens when you have clashing libraries
 
And I did. I trust you Tim, but this is just a project for my thesis...
 
it's clashing because his project uses support lib and dependency uses androidx
 
they released an album for free, why would you try to extort them?
 
@TaseerAhmad I think so... I've excluded some of the imports from the library (androidx ones like Tim says) and now it works
 
9:07 PM
just try it. Use migrate to androidx in the menu and if it ends up in a mess, revert it. It should be easy
 
migration to androidx is easy, but make sure keep to keep a backup, also the error will appear in your project mostly would be tackled by importing codes through androidx library
Has anyone used MaterialX app?
 
never heard of it
 
Well I'm quite pressured by time so I'll try this another time :D
 
it takes 5 mins
 
It's an app you can download from Playstore, it showcases various material designs
 
9:11 PM
4min tim
 
If you happen to use it, you would see how smooth the layout scrolling it, I wonder if the smoothness is because of non existent code
I love that
 
I just look at material.io for that
@MehdiB. have you seen chernobyl? I just watched the first 2 eps
 
@TimCastelijns not yet, watching bad blood now, is it good?
 
It was already next on my watch list but because social media was covering how it is currently the best rated TV show of all time with a 9.8 average after 300k votes on IMDB or something, my girlfriend was also eager to watch, so we decided to pause our other shows
it's incredibly impressive especially considering it's less than a month old
 
9:28 PM
8 hours ago, by ColdFire
@Jordy Tim jong un
 
@TimCastelijns its awesome
 
I'm gonna watch it then!
 
no comment on my amazing photoshop?
 
even though Bad blood is nice, it's not "incredibly" nice, so can be paused
 
@DaveS omg that's tim
 
9:34 PM
you can binge chernobyl, it's a 5 hour miniseries
 
at least grrigore appreciates me
 
It's hard to photoshop stuff
 
@DaveS B for the effort!
 
lol
 
A+ clap clap
One day you ll photoshop Mehdi too
 
9:35 PM
 
XD
 
He'd need to make his picture public in here
not gonna dox him
 
I have 0 nice picture of me, all the nice pictures are on other peoples phones :(
 
I doxxed him already
 
ah yeah, back when we were movie stars? :D
Jan 8 '18 at 23:07, by Tim Castelijns
user image
2
 
9:39 PM
THIS IS PURE GOLD
 
lol
saved for future face photoshoping
 
damn I scrolled through 32 pages of starred messages and I missed it
Jan 8 '18 at 22:45, by Tim Castelijns
is your identity intentionally private btw? I should ask before I shop your face onto this image
written permission btw
 
glad we have some legal evidence
 
hahahaha
the keyword I look for to find it is: dumber
 
smart
I came across some quality content though, it was not wasted time
 
9:41 PM
haters even on tech videos ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
> Aaron cant explain anything to anyone!!!!
And he thinks he is soooo freaking SMART !!!
While he SUCKS !!!!!!
 
burn
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ooooooooooo
Aug 21 '17 at 13:51, by Tim Castelijns
user image
 
XD
 
proof
!remindme tomorrow
 
Ok, I will remind you at 21:46 on 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 
9:46 PM
lol
 
@DaveS remind you what? I'm intrigued
 
it's a surprise
 
change profile picture xD
 
you'll probably not appreciate it
 
if you're ever bored, just check "starred by me" and "posted by me" messages man there is some gold in there
 
9:49 PM
Guys another solution to disable dates from datepickerdialog? Other than that library?..
 
tie it to the fence
wait nvm
do you need a unique subset or just dates before a certain start date?
there is a min and max date you can use
 
XD I had completely forgotten about Gatis Kandis, time to get inspired :D
 
A subset of dates that I need to substract from all of them
 
I wonder how people even survive without having an r15 life
 
This room is cool :) you guys are great
 
9:52 PM
and nice
May 4 '17 at 22:26, by Tim Castelijns
If you are nice to others for as long as I have been, it starts being natural. You reach a certain point where all you do is be nice
 
yeah you're looking at a custom dialog or using a library grrigore
 
and nice
 
@TimCastelijns that's a lie
you're only nice to strangers
 
@DaveS this could be true
 
come on man
 
9:56 PM
Jan 18 at 22:41, by Tim Castelijns
Fuck you dave
 
you could write a million dollar app with all the advice and code I shared in here, stranger or not
 
nice != helpful
 
(million dollars as in: cost to develop it)
 
lol
 
XD
 
9:57 PM
@DaveS xD
lol tim
 
10:25 PM
anyone know JavaFX?
 
I do a little
 
having issue with css and circles → chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/139/java
 
Well, sorry I did not use it that much :( only for two projects, but with simple UI
 
background-color: #FFFFFFFF;
?
 
@MehdiB. nope
 
10:28 PM
What type of element is that?
 
import javafx.scene.shape.Circle;
 
thought we were dealing with css here
 
I hate JavaFX. Seems so inconsistent :(
@MehdiB. we are, JavaFX css
 
you use css with javafx?
 
yes
 
10:30 PM
11
A: JavaFX - How can I fill with color a shape?

jewelseaSet a fill on the shape (Java 8 code): Circle circle = new Circle(40, 40, 40); Button button = new Button("Red"); button.setOnAction(e -> circle.setFill(javafx.scene.paint.Color.RED));

oh
you wanted CSS
 
@MehdiB. am I not supposed to? many answers use it.
 
no no, I've never done javafx, so I was surprised that their styling was css
 
don't start, it sucks
on rectangles it works, but not on circles, because that makes sense
 
XD
 
check the imported class
 
10:34 PM
@grrigore ?
 
There was a comment You are importing java.awt.Color instead of javafx.scene.paint.Color
maybe you use a different import for Circle and another one for the rectangle
 
I am not importing Color cause I am using css
import javafx.scene.shape.Circle;
import javafx.scene.shape.Rectangle;
 
That's what made me think about that
 
I could do this is in 5 sec with HTML/CSS/JS in two seconds
 
nerds
 
10:40 PM
ok fixed it
in Java, 31 secs ago, by JBis
YES! It was -fx-fill: none but I was adding classes wrong
Now onto centering
 
margin: 0 auto;
haven't wrote that in at least 3 years XD
 
@MehdiB. Awesome, oh wait JavaFX is so godamn inconsistent that they half ass css and don't have all the properties. margin doesn't exist :(((((((((((((
 
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
 
How can I create a Locale for Romanian? :(
 
@DaveS muggle
 
10:43 PM
@grrigore ro-RO ?
 
Well I messed up using ro_RO for language
Yes, ro_RO works, thanks :)
 
๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
 
Well, see you guys :)
 
o/
 
Good night!
o/
 
10:45 PM
night o/
 
10:57 PM
and centering problem solved, on to the next one!
 
11:12 PM
@JBis javaFx sucks
 
I completely agree.
 
11:34 PM
 

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