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1:04 PM
yeah...
 
I got very little time, so if you guys are meeting I can make it only spontaneously if at all
 
that means 741cm (in non retarted units)
 
xD
fucking costly
 
user443346
Only 100k
 
if you have a living room that has a wall to mount that thing, 100k is nothing for you
 
1:14 PM
@WarrenFaith 741cm for a household television is retarded already
 
I would not be able to flip this thing ANYWHERE in my house...
 
haha yes
 
I could mount it, my appartment used to be a theory classroom for driving-school students
Also there is this lack of a 100k...
 
finance it
 
~(-.-~)
 
1:17 PM
And your question is? — Sofo Gial 57 secs ago
 
I would love to know the story to the bank that persuade them to lent 100k for a television
 
it's not working — fayy 1 min ago
 
With a 30 year old Ford as pound
Also I would not ever trade my car
 
@WarrenFaith actually i can fit that thing into my living room , i just dont have 100k :(
 
How about your kidneys?
 
1:18 PM
May 27 at 12:16, by Tim Castelijns
Nov 8 '18 at 14:13, by Tim Castelijns
plz read the question if you don't now the answer just go away
 
@MuratKaragöz I have actually considered donating one
 
@MuratKaragöz must have sold for iphone already :D
 
But I have a phobia for needles, plus that constant urge to try new edible, drinkable stuff that may require both my kidneys rather than one
 
user443346
Hahahah mietje
 
user443346
1:20 PM
phobia for needles
 
:shrug:
 
user443346
Well I'm afraid of spiders so I shouldn't speak
 
user443346
Couple of days ago I've had my mobile airco unit on with a pipe going outside my back door. Later that night I woke up on the couch and noticed something moving under my couch. It was a spider. I've been a pussy b**** for 2 days.
 
how can one not have phobia for needles? I mean they don't hurt much but the idea of something penetrating your body like that
 
How come that you even think about donating a kidney
 
user443346
1:22 PM
The third day I saw him walking again, grabbed a adidas slipper and I jumped up, dunked the slipper on his head and voila - spidermeat.
 
user443346
@MwBakker That's what she said.
 
@Jordy heh
@MuratKaragöz as we speak there are kids/fathers/mothers waiting for a kidney with the risk of dying
 
Still
 
Ribbit
 
No.
 
user443346
1:26 PM
His name is Cuban Pete
 
@MuratKaragöz I am just not thàt sure if I can live with one kidney in my lifestyle
 
user443346
He's the king of the rumba beat
3
 
If that is your reasoning, are you donating plasma every week?
 
I have a phobia for needles, otherwise I definitly would
My aidstest was worse than actual aids for me for example
 
user443346
Press X to doubt
2
 
1:29 PM
xD
 
user443346
The first question that popped up in my mind is: Why would you do a fucking aids test?
 
LMAO^
 
@Jordy youth mistakes
 
user443346
Yeah we all made a mistakes with the ladies
 
1:30 PM
:O
 
user443346
Blowin' and burnin', blinded by thirst
 
exactly
she was from the south part of the globe
 
user443346
Africa?
 
yes
I told the drama story about her, that she now of all odds lives in my town at the moment
 
user443346
I'll keep my opinion for myself - once again.
 
1:32 PM
Thanks
 
thanks
 
@MwBakker if your only motive for taking the test is where she's from, you may wanna get checked up again
 
my doctor talked me into it
 
user443346
Since Tim became our r15 supreme leader I'm afraid of saying what i think :(
 
:(
 
1:35 PM
lol :(
 
user443346
opression15 :(
 
@Jordy Tim jong un
6
 
user443346
Legend
 
Fos in danger lol
 
@MwBakker also fyi, that test is irrelevant if you did it before ~6 months passed after the mistake
 
1:41 PM
I know
I have been informed well
@Jordy opR15ession
I just won a luxery hotel booking :D
 
Is it okay to release resources in onDeattach() of the fragment?
 
lol @ this convo so far
 
yes taseer
what kind of resources are we talking about tho?
 
Depends on the resource
 
I like how Tim monitors the chat, but joins only for nerd talk
 
1:45 PM
xD
he must have coded the bot to remind him when nerd talks happen
 
user443346
Holy moly
 
user443346
SPARE RIB EXPRESS IN MEPPEL
 
?
 
murat - tbh I'm considering doing the same
 
MediaRecorder() and MediaPlayer() .release() methods. I am facing difficulty in releasing these objects in either onPause() or onStop() of the fragment because the user could navigate back to fragment and continue using the media player. I could make it work but it requires to reset() the media player which makes no sense when it has already been initialized
 
1:48 PM
@MehdiB. lame
go read a book u nerd
 
Lame schmame
Release in ondestroy I guess
 
@ballBreaker audio books are a thing since 1969
 
go listen to a book u nerd
 
But is not onDestroy() not guaranteed?
 
Why not in onStop?
 
1:50 PM
iirc onStop is not guaranteed to be called
@ballBreaker give me a good title
 
because releasing the objects in onStop requires me to re-initialize those objects when retuned to fragment
 
@TaseerAhmad are you reading official documentation or are you letting random internet writers guide your life
 
Yes, what is the issue with initializing it again?
 
@TaseerAhmad if your mediaplayer is not dependent on a screen , might as well shift it to a service
 
@MehdiB. The Name of the Wind
 
1:56 PM
@MuratKaragöz you were right, onDestroy is the one not guaranteed, developer.android.com/reference/android/app/… check the "killable" column for onStop
@ballBreaker thanks fellow nerd
 
o/
 
@ColdFire Both are dependant on a screen, might move it service in the future
@MuratKaragöz Would not it be a good thing to keep the object initialized one time and release them when no longer needed instead of resetting the values everytime?
 
@ballBreaker That book is soooooo good
 
Yeah, I want the guy to hurry up and write the third >:(
 
what is the book about?
 
1:58 PM
hahahah
 
If it's only used in one place then I would not keep it around
 
@TaseerAhmad onstart and onstop then?
 
@RaymondArteaga I know, I am just a 'little' bit confused so I came here to know other's opionions
@ColdFire Yes, I am already releasing objects in the onStop, that means if the user navigates back to the fragment, I would need to re-init the objects because they were already released
 
when is ondestroyview not called?
 
2:05 PM
Word
 
Sentence
 
Tim - No one knows
 
Hiya Graeme!!!!!! :D
 
I would not be bothered with it
you have the same issue with Service#onDestroy
 
doesn't the system release everything when it kill the app anyway?
so even if ondestroy is not called i dont see a issue in this case
 
2:10 PM
The hotel asked if there was any special request to my room
I asked for a framed picture of harriott ainsley
I hope they'll do that
 
any navigation component nerds around
 
navigate yourself to another room, nerd
 
not used it yet
 
bahahah
 
2:27 PM
I created my own navigation component - dunno if that helps
 
I use a <dialog> in my graph. Now when I click some button in that dialog A, I want to navigate to fragment B inside that dialog
 
Gross - why would you do that?
 
not nesting the fragment inside the dialog, but navigating to it while keeping the modal presentation
 
Navigating behind the dialog?
 
no bro more like on top of it
but currently indeed it is happening behind it
 
2:30 PM
Oh, so, Fragment, Modal, Fragment ?
 
You're a monster
Can you start a new graph ontop?
 
seems common to me. With manual fragment transitions it's very easy to do
 
I have never seen an app do that before XD
 
I have a design here with an entire flow nested in a modal/dialog
/shrug
this flow has its own graph, yes
 
2:34 PM
Could you start a new graph ontop / new activity?
I wouldn't imagine it's supported easily
 
new activity no. We are committed to single activity
 
Good luck to you sir and god speed
 
I don't know what starting a graph means. I tried to have the entry point of this graph be a new NavHostFragment but you cannot have multiple because their ids clash
stackoverflow.com/questions/51523225/… this is more or less my problem. About to slap a 500 bounty on it
 
Big Spender!
@ballBreaker And the contagious british
 
there we go
 
2:45 PM
I want to buy a Ford Raptor and also red disposable cups
 
10
Q: Can I use multiple NavHostFragments in Navigation Component?

AnEnigmaticBugPlease look at the flowchart I made if you have difficulty in understanding the following paragraph. I'm currently making a notes app with 3 top level destinations. One of the top-level destinations(NotesList) displays a list of notes created by the user. NotesList has a filter button which brin...

free rep here
 
so the new component is "navigation component" right?
 
@Graeme +1
@TimCastelijns like dialog with step instructing swipe to go to next ?
@MehdiB. yes
oh so much rep makes me want to give the problem a shot
dammit tim
 
@Graeme Wait, what? They don't let british people donate blood?
 
@TimCastelijns why is this btw? It's a custom ListAdapter not a direct UI referrence
Is it due to the callback it contains?
 
2:52 PM
@ColdFire that 500 rep motivated me to take a look once I go home :D
 
user443346
Ey Bakkertie, we have spare rib express in Meppel now aswell
 
Great, now I'm hungry. Not sure if Coevorden is too far off their route
 
user443346
I already ordered
 
user443346
When I get home, my food arrives within 15 min
 
Damn
That sounds great
I am going to get myself a delicous frozen package of food from the Aldi
 
user443346
2:55 PM
;-;
 
500gr food for 2 euro
I can't cook against that
 
Nice :D
 
Who makes that stuff for 2 euro? Opressed farmers? It gets packed, transported etc and it's 2 euro
 
user443346
:d
 
I almost feel bad for buying it
 
user443346
2:56 PM
Lots of vegans make that up for you
 
hmmmm
food
 
user443346
Never feel bad - eat meat.
 
user443346
 
I unmatched a chick on a dating app last night because she was a vegan and had never eaten a steak
 
user443346
:d
 
2:58 PM
@MwBakker XD
 
@TimCastelijns rep hunters unite
 
Nah, I don't want to date someone who is a vegan from birth
I don't care if someone is vegan, but if they were born a vegan, fuck that
 
I don't mind about that, as long as I won't get bothered with it
 
@MwBakker ... can you delete this please...
 
Oh cmon mehdi
I mean
I guess it's on the line
 
3:00 PM
the void is cold
 
@ballBreaker Nope. BSE.
 
If a 13 year old was in here they wouldn't get the reference
therefore its pg13
But whateva
 
I agree but the void is so cold and my digital heart does not weigh well after some facebook posts I made
 
user443346
Being religious or vegan is like having a penis. It's allright to have one but when one takes it out and waves it in my face > we will have a problem.
 
@Graeme the Bombay Stock Exchange?
@MwBakker The reason is because, I'm looking to date someone for an indefinite amount of time, and I have a big problem with raising my kid as a vegan (without giving them a chance)
 
3:01 PM
@ballBreaker would you say this in front of your female coworker?
 
@MehdiB. Yes
 
retorical question
 
Bovine Spongiform Ensephelopathy
 
Is that mad cow?
 
Mad cow disease
 
3:02 PM
Damn dude :\ I'm sorry to hear that, that's unlucky
 
Why are the android developer docs so slow
it's no fun to browse it
 
I got in a fight with a previous ex because she was vegan and wanted to raise her kids vegan
 
@MehdiB. I'm totally on board with Mehdi - It's not a locker room. This should be as comfortable form women as men
 
and I said that was like forcing religion on them from birth
So that's why I avoid girls who were born vegan
 
I have vegan meat in my fridge, economical reasons
plus it tastes good
 
3:04 PM
It's impossible to have vegan kids from birth - humans will die at that age
 
with the exception of breast milk
Anyway, point is, if they didn't have a choice to eat meat, then I won't date them
 
Who hurt you BB?
 
I just don't want to raise my kids vegan
 
@MwBakker because a listadapter is basically a UI reference. It (should) only exists in the 'view layer' of your app
 
I don't see anything wrong with that
 
3:05 PM
They must have been very mean
Want to talk about it?
You can message me on linked in. I'm a good Agony Aunt ;)
 
lol
 
the viewmodel has data for the view to display, but it does not care how it is displayed. "Oh my data ended up in a list? Ok fine I don't care, in fact I don't even know about this" - ViewModel, 2019
 
I didn't really see the listadapter as UI referrence yet
but it makes sense
 
@Graeme I just know what I'm looking for in a partner. Nothing wrong with that
 
think of it not as 'UI reference' but as 'part of the view layer'
 
3:10 PM
Fair
 
^_^
I got my bonus and salary raise today on a good note \o/
 
if you read some about domain driven design you will understand it better. It divides code into 3 layers: presentation, business logic and data
 
Isn't that the solution?
I don't understand the question
 
it doesn't work if chooseRecipe is a modal
 
Oh
Why not use a fake modal
 
3:15 PM
a what
 
Throw together a Fragment that has transparent background
Such as DialogFragment
You want it to act identically to a Fragment for Navigation Component
And making it act like a modal UI wise is easy
500 rep please
 
How much rep do you need to chat
I don't need all this 500 reps
free rep for everyone in r15 party
 
yea but it seems you can't navigate from a modal to a non-modal destination
not as you'd expect anyway. The behavior is that the modal stays in the foreground and the new destination opens behind it
 
Yeah, just don't make it a modal
Make it look and act like one
It's easy
 
why don't you work out your ideas in a demo app
cause I'm not sure I understand you
 
3:29 PM
Your problem is your using a modal, not a standard fragment? The easy solution thereofre is to use a standard fragment not a modal... no?
 
maybe
suppose the activity has a <toolbar><fragment navhost><bottom nav> now navigating back and forth here is easy, everything is just replaced in the fragment container
how would you go about displaying a full screen dialog fragment in there
like sliding in on top of all the other content
 
Make two layouts in the activity and flip the container for fullscreen display otherwise the normal toolbar bottom nav layout
 
swapping layout that while sliding in the modal would look weird wouldn't it
 
or you make toolbar and navbar heights to 0?
You could even animate it with a transition to make it look sexy
 
Sliding in your dialog...? From top/bottom?
 
3:40 PM
I actually had that some time ago :) it does look nice, but it does not look like the modal is sliding in
yes bro slide in from bottom
 
Over your Toolbar and NavBar.... then your layering a fragment ontop of it?
 
yeah man
 
noisily vomits
Did you design this or a designer?
 
I think google did when they released bottomsheetdialogfragment, but our designer applied it
 
Fire them immediately
You never layer ontop of a bottom sheet
Anyway, I'm acting like commons ware and saying your question is wrong
You can use elevation to translate in if required
 
3:44 PM
bottom sheet just demonstrates the full screen sliding in I'm talking about, it is not part of our actual implementation
 
Hum, no, you wouldn't see it...
Blegh.. I dunno dude.
 
@JuniusL. demo works but i can not see differnece between your and my code — iLiA 50 secs ago
xD
 
Transition coming up over your nav and then settling "below" it is gross
 
spotify does something similar
 
I would fight the requirements not the implementation if i was in your shoes
 
which part
 
What does your dialog has to do with the bottom sheet?
 
nothing, I used bottom sheet as an argument when graeme asked who designed it
btw google maps and calendar also do this
 
yes consider that scenario ^ now when it's fullscreen click a button and another fragment slides in from the right
in the same content window as that thing
 
3:51 PM
replace the content in the bottom sheet than?
 
yeah how lol
 
Looks like you can do that with the Coordinatorlayout
 
yes CL can handle the dragging up to fullscreen etc
 
@MuratKaragöz This is fine... But you would never navigate the "map" container on top of the sheet
The map one never transition in over the sheet
 
That thing what you are dragging to the top, isn't that a Fragment? Can you can not replace the content withing the fragment?
or why even replace, just put another fragment on top of it
 
3:54 PM
that is an arbitrary layout. It can contain a fragment
 
Even talking about it makes my butt clench in horror
 
Yes make it a FrameLayout
and you can put childs over it as many as you want
 
"just put another fragment on top of it" tell me how bro. 500 reps are on the table. Note that traditionally this was pretty easy, but navigation component does not seem to allow it just like that
 
and the childs all have match parent to occupy the whole space
 
Time to go~~
Cya later/tomorrow people!!!!! :D
 
3:58 PM
Tim - Come over and I'll sort it with you in 10
 
Wait
Is all of this over a 500 bounty, or someone here's app
 
both bro
 
is it your app Timmy?
 
It's all to help Tim because we like him
 
Do we?
 
3:59 PM
sure it is my app
 
Yessum
 
ohhh I see
Someone else's question, bounty by tim because it's relevant to him
gotcha
 
Although me and Tim's designer have beef
 
4:26 PM
o/
 
4:40 PM
E/RecyclerView: No adapter attached; skipping layout this is killing meeee :(
hello Carl
 
you should attach an adapter
 
I did :(
Should I get the recycler view in onCreateView or in onViewCreated?
Here is it, I can't find out what's wrong :(
 
in onCreate of a fragment?
 
onCreateView
in a fragment
 
4:48 PM
Ok, I will try, thank you
 
WOMPERS
 
HIYA CARL!!!!!!!! :D
 
HIYA!! :D
how are you?
 
hello
 
it's only been like 3 months
 
4:51 PM
I'm good!!!! :D
you??
 
pretty good, finally working at the new company
 
yay~~
 
Your profile still says Starbucks
 
my profile needs to get with the times
 
Also, what did you do at Starbucks
 
4:52 PM
@MehdiB. haha same
hiya carl
 
How can I avoid a RecyclerView inside a ScrollView?
The problem is that I need a RV in that screen. I have a CardView, one TextView and then the RV
 
Set rv nested scrolling to false
 
Will this solve the problem of both the RV and SV scrolling?
 
@MuratKaragöz I worked on their Android app.
 
user443346
o/
 
4:58 PM
Is there anything exciting in their app
 
hey Jordy :)
 

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