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13:00
If it's just for a study abroad semester and you want the experience, then the school won't matter too much, and the experience will largely be outside school, so go for it
But for a full degree, probably not
@MehdiB. sounds good no?
what raghav said
time 2 lunch
@ColdFire the 6y sentence yes, "2050" no
haha corruption is an incurable disease lol
lurch time~~ :3
13:01
at the most you can bring it to very modest level
or tolerable level
@MwBakker AI and robotics are hot fields, set your priorities right with your gf, if what you have is serious, you'll both find a compromise
Thanks for the advice guys
@MehdiB. But what about b l o c k c h a i n ?
He'll better go to Cyprus for Blockchain :D
The Academia is very active in the field there
there is already skynet monopoly over blockchain
13:08
If you really wanna do something (like fighting corruption) you set small deadlines like 5 years max
@MwBakker follow your dreams bro. My girlfriend went to miami for 5 months when we were less than 6 months together and we turned out fine
Not 32 years, you say 32 years when you wanna go for Pluto or establish a Jupyter human colony
yeah but why would be politicians want to fight corruption of which they are the biggest benificiary?
mehdi the python nerd. It's jupiter
You would find less politicians in India who are even 10th pass forget a degree
13:10
xD Tim
@tim that sucks dude :(
(re: the earlier ping, couldn't direct respond on mobile)
what sucks bro give me some context
@TimCastelijns thanks 😂😂
Sometimes when I join the room I feel I miss the context of the previous chats
Need to go back a little to find out
@TimCastelijns That is awesome, America is my dream but it's financially very tough to establish in such short notice (February)
13:15
@TimCastelijns your feelings of not doing anything and just play games
It's hard to get a work visa for America nowadays
I too once wanted to move to America
Then I did, and they kicked me out
oh yeah CF
3/10, would not move again
13:16
so 7/10 would move again?
I hope to visit and work on a project later in my life there. I want to drive a '94 Ford Taurus through the big forests there, I have very specific American dreams haha
I don't think that's how math works, CF
I have no such dreams. My life is good here. Not moving out
us android developers, we sit at the same desk for 50 years Mw
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13:17
Can confirm, requested the same room next year so I don't have to adjust to a new desk
my dream is to have a laptop/desktop with a graphics card that is not an Intel graphics HD 3000
Agree with you im
Although, I'm not really an android dev so...
timeline 5 years, currently 2 years in, saved 0 eu
13:17
@TimCastelijns I have a company here that sells ex-leased laptops for very nice deals
But you were before raghav
@TimCastelijns bro look on the bright side you have a roof now
I bought mine there, works flawless for 6 years now
CF imagine never buying anything except for groceries and bday gifts for friends
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13:19
!accept
@Raghunandan mostly true and india is improving so its getting better :D
Unknown command '!accepyt'
@AdarshYadav welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
that's tough Tim
@MwBakker I'm currently still paying off a debt :D talk to me in a year or so
Alright
13:20
@TimCastelijns But you did went to vacation recently
it's alright mehdi. We get by fine. But I used to buy whatever I felt like buying in the past, it's really different now lol
oh true cf :D forgot about it already
"Failed to create parent directory" Aaaah
@TimCastelijns That sucks, but you'll get through. Tough times create toughness
meh doesnt sound like the situation is that tough then :D
13:22
@TimCastelijns I've solved this by not having any friends
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Now I just buy groceries
Hahaha
My card statement is literally just 1 grocery charge after another
the thing is, as you describe your tax system, even trying to re-establish that financial balance by working on side gigs is not worth the time and effort
@MwBakker new File("batman").createParentDir()?
Nah it's a build error
13:23
same for me raghave 😂
It comes after NoDatabinding Component found, and trying to strip the project down to the problem
yeah correct mehdi
Nice tax system btw
80% of my spendings is due to gasoline :(
I used to play sooo much GTA because there I could drive
13:24
You should work for crypto, Tim
we just had not anticipated the extreme difficulty in finding a nice fulltime job for my girlfriend. She is halfway through an internship currently, fingers crossed she will be able to stay there after
Then when the taxman asks, just say "What crypto, never heard of it"
my dream is to stop failing at startups and have at least 1 successful exit
And then I could drive, and now I drive myself straight into debt. It's an expensive habit/addiction
Buy a cheap electric car
I've seen a lot of people buying them here
13:26
^^
Usually a Nissan Leaf or similar
nissan leaf car of the year 2008
Petrol in NZ is super expensive, especially last few months
that is 10 years too late
So you quickly save on an electric car
13:26
what is the price over there?
well petrol is expensive everywhere since oil has surged
$$$$
middle east must be $$$$$
petrol is cheap af in USA
@RaghavSood Well the addiction is the feeling, the gasoline the sound etc etc.
!remindme 21h pick up remote thing
Ok, I will remind you at 10:27 on 31 October 2018 (UTC)
13:28
@TimCastelijns You get used ones for 15-24k NZD
USA is one of the producer and taxes are low on petrol
also US loves Oil :D
i think he was asking for petrol price raghav :D
@MwBakker Yeah, I wish I drove here more, NZ is beautiful to drive around
Sadly, I have no time, no car, and no money to burn on petrol
That indeed kinda sucks, but you can still hike
Or grab your bike and go through the hills there <3
If Google Images and stories of my friends are correct, then I love NZ
Pretty sure my bike got stolen
Jul 27 at 11:14, by Raghav Sood
Huh. My bike disappeared
And you need a car to get to most hikes :P
back
13:30
front
@RaghavSood used petrol?
So there is something about my Room class that creates these odd errors
@TimCastelijns Nissan leaf lol
Word
Excel
13:31
How's r15?
good! how are you?
Good :) Whats new Mehdi?
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Petrol is around 1.8 USD a litre here
13:32
R15 is getting mean
good wbu?
I am just curious. In EU (regular, not diesel) is currently 1.60eu/L and it's nice. It fluctuates between 1.50 and 1.85 or so
Slightly less if you're not in a major city
so about the same
hey it's my favourite anglocanadian bearded shaman.
13:33
not bad
what's up in there?
1.8 = 145 INR
Getting mean?
Switch to electric cars
Thats me! Hi Eric
13:33
Wages in NZ are usually lower than other comparable countries, though
And costs of the car+everything else tends to be higher
gasoline cost in spain is 1.4-1.5€, gasoil is 1.1-1.2€
@Graeme Working on a small project to apply MVP and RxJava and Play framework on backend :D
@MehdiB. Same, I'd be happy with a couple of million
Costly in Delhi would even higher
yo graeme. i played P&P rpg this saturday
masquerade
was fun
been a lot sincei last played with that ruleset
13:35
@RaghavSood same, man. same... I have now ~5 failures, the latest costed me $$ this time :D
less dicey, more interpretative.
i mean there's lots of dices, but they matter less than it actually looks like
Hopefully my first actual startup will be up and running by the end of this year
:o
What's it about?
as soon as you can afford remote workers, hire me with NZ's wage :D
B l o c k c h a i n
Enslaving hiring Mehdi seems like a better option, need someone with ML/AI background
13:37
lol
i can be of other uses
cheap intern recruiter
like?
spain's full of good underpaid engineers.
That's Ahmad
13:37
no no ahmad is well paid
i mean people that would accept work chairless for 900€/mo
Not too bothered about hiring people initially
@RaghavSood 😂😂😂😂
Right now, I need money for servers more than people
@CptEric I can FTEs for less than half that in Vietnam or India lol
Raghav does not need anyone. Isn't Raghav super human!
but they won't cook you paellas 24/7
13:39
Where do I find what the lastest version of Room is?
@RaghavSood you should consider talking to Microsoft, I know a few companies that that got 200k$ of free compute in Azure, google also launched the startup program for Xk$ of compute
you can't be super-something when you've never been that something. beep boop
Yeah, I will, but I need the legal company and stuff in place first
are you exempted from taxes in NZ if your company doesn't make any money
I'll be incorporating in Singapore
Can't incorporate in NZ on a student visa
13:41
you have work visa for singapore right?
you can also incorporate in the US (state of Delaware) using stripe Atlas
@MwBakker in the docs
I'm not inclined to pay anything to the US these days
you can incorporate in spain for peanuts.
13:42
Singapore works pretty well, since I know the place, and know a bunch of people there
Plus, it's super easy to do business there remotely
And in the long run, if I need an NZ entity, it's easy to setup one under the SG one
NZ and SG have great trade agreements
But cost of living
To the point that Singaporeans are exempt from the recent NZ law forbidding foreigners from buying land
@MehdiB. really server and all stuff free?
i didnt knew this
yeah, you have to provide them a business case
13:44
wow awesome for my business idea then
fucking hell
Agree Doing businesses is easy in Singapore.
'yall talking about opening businesses
@TimCastelijns Eh, I'll manage. If I can get a good company going, it should be survivable
You can cater to whole of asia
Rent is the largest cost of living in Singapore
13:44
and i talk about selling my old stuff
on the other hand , doing business in india oh well :(
#Economy101
As a single guy with no friends, it's not too hard to find a place
get into a uni residence
they are usually cheap
compared to normal rent
wait i don't know how that works
Plus, I most likely won't live in SG for some time
13:45
@RaghavSood thanks for providing me with this random information
in EU you can just pop in with your european uni card and say "hey gimme a room"
I will likely be in NZ, and work remotely for myself
Yeah, you can't do that in SG
Lucky me I don't have to spend money on properties.
a friend of mine lives on one even when his uni is fully online
you have a house raghu?
13:46
I'm half considering buying a house in NZ over the next couple of years if I can find 250k or so somewhere
mortgage?
I'm exempt from the foreigner ban as a student living here
Rented houses and cost of living is costly here.
And houses in christchurch are cheap right now because they rebuilt too many after the earthquake
Can't get a mortgage without a job lol
make sure to buy one earthquare-protected
13:47
Dunno, had an earthquake yesterday, was pretty nice
unlike those wooden houses in central US
Yes cf my dad's house and he has a property on the outskirts of the city
Nice wobble, low damage, 7/10, would repeat
oh nice raghu
@CptEric i thought wooden houses was mostly a japanese thingy
13:48
My main problem is finding 250k
Lucky me no debts and I do not even own a credit card
Can't exactly check pockets before laundry for that kind of money
same no debts but i do have CC
not like i need one tho
You have your realm, CF
you need something, you just ask
13:51
@DaveS :(
@RaghavSood isn't it our problem all? :D
lmao he is not orange tho
make brazil great again :D
we have something in the app that does or does not show a popup on start depending on some variables like "how long since X, how many times Y happened". 1 user out of 220k has reported he gets this popup every time, how do you go about investigating this ?
make a app internal logcat
Ask the user their ROM, settings, if they're clearing cache, if they're behind a company proxy that might cache network calls
13:52
keep a option in app to send it when required
@MehdiB. I mean, how hard can finding 250k be?
Tim Ask him for a the device and the O's version and also the method to reproduce so you can start testing
"how long since X, how many times Y happened" is that stored in the backend database?
@TimCastelijns Thanks!
It's just a year of spending nothing while working a bay area job
13:53
I cannot contact the user. Also it was reported a month ago, I cannot make new stuff to help debug this in the future
maybe db failed something like that
no in the shared prefs mehdi
"Closed: Could not reproduce"
well probably its failing to store it
but once you see this popup and you act on it, it requires at least 60 days have passed to show again
13:54
android and their weird bugs :D
I can't see how it would fail unless this guy changes his time settings every time
oh great i'm the grinch today
Most likely, whatever shared pref you set either failed to write (out of space, battery died, whatever), and you entered a limbo state where the app thinks its set, but it isn't, and displays it each time or something
or clears his app storage
today i can't stand happiness.
13:55
do you clear the sharedprefs on logout by any chance?
Back~~~ :D
Great, you can join me in blankly staring at my study material and not actually studying
I would ignore if the bug/crash is not reported by few others
that is a long break
@RaghavSood joins
13:56
yeah 1 in 220k is just not worth it, especially if you cant even debug it
@MehdiB. we don't have login
it's not up to me to say I'm gonna ignore it
status : closed cant be reproduced
14:09
Alrighty, BAT acquired
now you just need ductape and MAN
@RaghavSood :D
Lol, not too much
mark the BATman
Just trying to make my balance a round number
Which I failed at, because of trading/withdrawal fees
But close enough
14:15
My parents lost a good 18lakhs on online trading
woah what
18lakhs, how many insert_random_measure_unit is that?
Yeah. Lost all of it.
I'm down ~70% from January ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
eric 10 lakh bananas
14:17
It's not affecting our normal lives since my dad has enough back up. Eric that's a lot of money
@CptEric Around 25k usd
well, shit
D:
14:24
o/
Would take roughly 2 years for me to earn that much money again
@RaghavSood okay that's a lot
i'm sorry for you loss of that many buckets 'o cash. it must hurt
"error: resource android:attr/fontVariationSettings not found"
14:28
i mean i'm already crying in corners for losing 200ish
I am just trying to get the newer Room version :(
Who's watching the apple event?
Mwb - i think you just need to stop fighting your IDE and start programming in Gedit
??
GEdit?
@AdamMc331 Link
14:31
@AdamMc331 apple fanboy spotted
@MwBakker wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit or sublime text if you prefer (jk btw)
It's right here in NYC. I think one of my coworkers went but maybe he was just teasing me.
@CptEric Raghav != Raghunandan
Im afraid I am out of options
But learning working in a new IDE.. I dk
14:32
@RaghavSood you sure? @Ragh I wonder how many people get pinged by this? :D
I just spent another 2 houres on the same issues I had yesterday. Can't break through
Both of us will be pinged by that
Raghav equals Raghunandan then
yup both of us
Nope. Not equal
dunno i used autocomplete
blame the chat
14:35
On second thoughts, looks like I won't be trying to acquire a mehdi for the startup
Seems unwise when a larger portion of the work involves differentiating similar looking things in data
Hehe. ML error
~(-.-~)
(~-.-)~
give me more features to use, Raghav, looks like I'm underfitting badly
@AdamMc331 presenter: "random stuff" audience: "omg omg clap clap clap" smh
14:37
Here's a quick, motivational list:

Raghunandan - Will not recycle humans who aren't of use
Raghav - Will recycle humans who aren't of use
@TimCastelijns no spoilers Tim
@TimCastelijns xD
#BanAdamForIosBlasphemy
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"not sure what they are saying but OMG I love it"
I love that gif
Me too loved that gif
14:39
nice gif
@RaghavSood thanks, my dataset looks like this now "namePrefix | recycler => fullName" and it has only 2 records XD
Pre-AndroidX ?
New iPad Pro, Bro
Bye bye home button
Consumer hardware events don't excite me at all, love seeing new softwares and technologies though
that iPad video was flashy af
14:47
what ipad
what did i miss
I hate instant apps
Damn
@Mauker RIP
I solved the lang lasting issue
The build.gradle seemed to be messed up, which gave me the weird errors
LOL
They're using USB-C now
14:54
1 TB storage wow so cool
16 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
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😂😂😂
YOU CAN CHARGE YOUR iPHONE!1!!!!
Raghav - Whats the hide images url again?
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16 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
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14:55
@ColdFire so much wow, very capable
MAGNETIC PENCIL
what is this voodoo!
THE PENCIL CHARGES WIRELESSLLY !1!!!!!1one!!
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we are introducing x feature which has been in market for 10years but hey its ifeature now
14:57
Yeah, but they do have a nice touch on it
closed too boring to watch it anymore
Presenter: "hahaha"
Everyone else: "..."

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