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00:00
oh man these are too relatable
lol
after working in retail for 3 years i've heard all the corny jokes
After working in retail for 3 years being a white male in America i've heard all the corny jokes
howdy
00:10
that too
pre software jobs sucked
food service and retail for me
if you aren't good at software software jobs probably also suck
my retail job was enjoyable b/c my coworkers and bosses were all fun
would have sucked otherwise
software/tech changes pace so fast by the time you hit mastery I would argue the whole stack has changed
thankfully my biggest strengths are picking up new technologies, working in code without creating side effects and debugging
works perfectly for client work
not so great at turning out features/code day after day
get too distracted
still get my job done, don't get me wrong
00:16
I need to do the logcat of my SE app but anyone actual get it past the log in page
I have tried 2 different accounts each with different configuration
probably running a custom built version of android might have something to do with the issues I am having
funny all other apps I need/try work
00:33
After her four-year-old daughter proclaimed that "engineers are boys," one Googler set out to publish a children’s picture book to bust that bias. Meet #AraTheStarEngineer → http://goo.gl/AgiqHc https://t.co/VIBxvP0QCw
00:43
I need to buy that for my daughter
or convince her grandma/aunt to buy it for her
I like the way you think lmao
I need to <s>get</s> have a daughter 1st
lol
Then buy it for her
I hope you have the wife/gf already
can't be just picking daughters up off the street
00:46
There are some decent options at my University
but nothing serious
I always forget the strike for markdown on here
funny dave you only have basically one account on SE
yeah
why is that funny?
nothing else interests you?
not enough to post Q&A
When i started at my company I was the only developer, so SO and SO chat was my replacement for co-workers
lmao
me at my internship
now I hardly have time when I'm at work even though this tab is always open
00:56
^
basically
 
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03:23
Yeah everything is NAND in electronics
Maybe the one click on mouse, it passed through million of nand gate
No its not
NAND is a universal gate, yes
And you could technically build any logic system out of it
But it would be foolish to do so, using other gates is much more efficient
03:44
Yeah there is also many of another gates.
Anyone tried flutter? I wonder how implicit the layout was. In XML, the childs build depend on parent, in flutter, the parents build depend on child.
04:25
@MarkO'Sullivan ^
@Mauker what went wrong. the build is fine on my machine.
did the build break for anyone?
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05:03
Hi
Any link for kotlin conf??
05:32
Do we have any open-hardware mobile phone ?
I know about different boards (I am a community member of Beagleboard) and how we can use modules to convert them into a mobile phone, but I am looking for something much more integrated.
and a bit more cheaper
You can build one out of a raspberry pi and some parts
It's not truly open, since the LTE/GSM modules are still closed source
But it's close enough for playing around
Yeah. It can be build around a lot of open-hardware boards. But it wont be cost effective.
It's not super expensive
I believe you can build the Pi one for <$100
Building a truly open hardware GSM module will be expensive though
Mostly due to regulatory certs
Anyone knows about openMoko or Librem5 ?
Using a pocket-beagle it can even be built for < $75
I'm somewhat familiar with Librem
What's your goal here?
If you just want to learn how networks work, there's a ton of virtual software to play around with
05:41
I need a linux capable board that has communication capabilities, preferably 4G, and is enough cost-effective so be used in market and production.
The cheaper I can get, the better it is.
You can get GSM enabled boards for ~$30 or so I believe
For example ?
That plus an STM32 could do wonders
You can get STM32 boards for a dollar
If you can get away with 2g, that'll work
05:47
The best of STM32 has 512Kbytes of ram. Thats not enough
I am looking something more like : m.indiamart.com/proddetail.php?i=17977931973
It has 4G and GPRS
but, as I said, the cheaper I can find, the better it is.
What are you trying to build?
512kb is a lot for a small device
How does the market has 4G mobile phones for < INR 5K. Oh ! they might be subsidized.
Phone manufacturers buy thousands, they get better pricing
The chips are usually quite cheap to make
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It has to be able to capture video, display G-maps, manage BT-audio, manage sensors and maybe a few more things.
05:51
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I need a linux capable board
Sounds like you just need a cheap phone
What are you trying to build?
right !
Thats why I started there
So just buy a cheap phone?
05:51
Hi Thanks guys
You will never be able to hit that pricepoint for that much stuff assembling your own
Read the rules before you say anything else, Nagarjun.
makes sense. But, can I use those phones for some business purpose ? or are there some regulations in that ?
It's your phone, you can use it for whatever you want, provided you stay within local laws
Yeah. price point is an issue. But will be fun to do it :D
For instance, don't use the phone to set off explosives, that's illegal
Feel free to use it as a front door camera, that's not
05:54
I I need help. Is there any way to get code from APK file? I tried installing in mac not working
:D that will be cool as well !
I have macbook
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Why cant India have a semiconductor-FAB ? Is it like very capital intensive ?
or maybe is not-so-profit ?
I guess IP is more profitable.
It should be, I think
05:58
Licensing is expensive, manufacturing is too
But then the market is huge.
Feel free to start a company
:D
If you can help me get me some investors :P
I'm good with other work, I'll pass
other work ?
06:04
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!!! :D
Work that does not involve starting fabrication factories
Hello, human agent
How is it going??? :D
Not terrible, mostly just working
nice!!! :3
06:39
Would methods of reducing the rural population be acceptable? Giving everyone a free cellphone and building out a global cell network is the boring approach. Killing everyone we can’t reach with existing systems would be a more novel and interesting solution, if it’s permissible. (I mean, you floated the idea of dropping speaker poles into remote areas from B52 bombers... why not just drop bombs?) — HopelessN00b yesterday
Making genocide sound so easy...
morning, nerds
Don't call me nerd you geek!
who knew world building would involve destruction
06:45
Don't take me serious, I am just the angry German in the room
your office is right south of where I sit
far south
yeah, when I commute by car, I go Innsbrucker platz. That is the closest I get to your place :D
Did you review your own company with five stars? :D
06:49
Who doesnt?
I did not
I mean who doesnt rate my company with 5 stars?
But it's a nice place there
lots of places to eat
@WarrenFaith i would rate with 4.98 just for the lulz
thats why I bring my own food
If that would be possible I would do the same
basically there is always something to improve
06:52
my new flatmate seems like a nice guy.
You survived the night, it's a win
and i even took a hipster breakfast on my balcony
nice!!
do we bring welcome gifts??
06:57
dunno.
my life is so clumsily built i no longer know what do to or when
but if you want to drop by my place this afternoon, we could play some tabletop stuff
today is only half day for you right'
?
08-15:00 or something like that
Your half days are 7 hours long?
No wonder humans will be replaced, math dictates half of 24 is 12
they siesta for 2 hours in between
Oh right
They're Spanish humans
8-15 alright
07:00
so anytime after you eat and relax a bit, you can come. there will be no cats that bite
and until 20:00 i don't have to go to rugby
Every time I read "netpork" I'm reminded of the whole IoT grills and cooking appliances
damia will be working probs
no siesta for me tho...
take siesta then first lol
noo xD
07:01
Just nap at work
i never take a siesta
don't like it >.<
I can bring my new harry potter game expansion set
Excellent makes notes
Morning
at 8.15 and 9.15 UTC there will be intro talks about coroutines at kotlinconf check the livestream
there will be a quiz after. Everyone who fails is banned
What are those gibberish words
Effectenbeurzaal
Granbeurszaal
Berlagezaal
Administratiezaal
Verwey kamer
07:17
dutch words for various rooms at the venue
@ZeekHuge we have very cheap phones here
there is even a 500 INR phone (7-8$)
actually the 2nd talk is at 11.00
Aha, I can finally watch Antman and the Wasp
I missed almost movies in the last few months.... No MI, No AntMan,,,,
07:24
@TimCastelijns fake german you mean
wow that women learned coding at 51
direct link to livestream youtube.com/watch?v=6AAV1x6UZpA
@ColdFire: 4G android phones ?
While we were talking about security and being safe : bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/…
Repost
07:39
@ZeekHuge naah for 7-8$ 4g phone is insane
07:50
Gooooooooooooood Morningggggggggggggggggggggggg every one........................
08:05
what is a guideline?
is this some CL shit?
@W0MP3R siesta means means a nap right?
or was it like nashta?
@ZeekHuge i will start one :D
yeah, nap
when i have the funds ofcourse?
ah
a guideline is a virtual line on the screen that you can constrain views to
@ColdFire: That will be super cool ! Let me know when you plan to do it.
haha currently just in dreams
but yes since the government is giving a massive push to local production
so there is never a better time than today
08:16
I have been realizing this again and again, things are actually much difficult than they seem to be.
and yeah, obviously they will be. It would be foolish to assume otherwise.
obviously
where are you from if i may ask?
currently in Indore, MP.
oh holy crap Indian
fucking hell didnt realize it at all
i thought you were american
really ? I thought you must have assumed that from the "Why cant India have a FAB" question .
@TimCastelijns damn that guy is rocking his mustache
08:18
CF indian guy presenting coroutines @ kotlinconf tune in
@ZeekHuge awesome english dude...
your english made me thought you were american :(
@ColdFire: Really ? I have been told otherwise :D
how to tune in?
i mean in writing
well in speaking my english also sucks
@ZeekHuge well you were like confused like how can phone be so cheap?
so i thought you have never been to india etc etc
08:21
tim and cf did the commit by me break the build?
yes raghu i see a line not compiling
? thing!
in the divider itemdecoration files?
some 367 line if i remember correctly
is that it?
08:22
in message adapter
367 is not touched
@nyconing na the child still depends on the parent widget. There's parameters for each widget on what is needed for it to successfully build
at kotlinconf, What is the editor he is using ? I dont think thats vim.
Is it ? What plugin ?
for those zoom in and out thing.
then it must be mauker
@Mauker fix your shit^
not sure but his could be the cause for the break github.com/room-15/ChatSE/commit/…
08:27
i love the $ feature
the what feature?
@MuratKaragöz do you like mustache?
the $ one
This "jumping into the middle of the function" can actually make code more bug prone. no ?
Context should be maintained by a class, not a function
@ColdFire: thats like bash-script/Makefile
i don't care anymore
the top streamer gets 450k$/month
lol
@MuratKaragöz wow that is some hardcore money
what $ are you talking about lol
I know right
08:43
starts a twitch streaming
dude you do kotlin right?
lets start a streaming service murat :D
you mean the string interpolation?
I thought you meant something cool :(
ah
yes something string shit
that is cooool
nah it's interpolation
no more "" + "" + ""
solves a very irritating thing about java
No chance to start something like that
it's like trying to make a searchengine
08:52
sigh no vision
you guys just gave before even starting
jk
that reminds me one of my dream project is a Indian Search Engine
@ColdFire: I am in !
I pushed some things for login refactor
@ZeekHuge lol that is a dream project not even close to starting it yet
@ColdFire: I know, but now you have 1 more person who shares that "dream"
haha nice
08:59
@ColdFire you guys don't have a phone book?
i think someone even floated the idea
tim what has phone book to do with a search engine?
oh I tought you wanted to search for indians
...
i dont need to search for them i just need to look out of a windows or just throw a stone it will surely land on one
@ColdFire: If you don't mind, where in India are you from ?
its on my profile zeek
09:04
> just throw a stone it will surely land on one
Nov 2 '17 at 13:42, by Cold Fire
well maybe but generally you dont
Sep 6 at 12:20, by Cold Fire
@TimCastelijns never happened in india
:thinking:
lol that is a running joke here
sigh the dutch
also unrelated events
textmate
what in hell
i leave for a coffee mug and you want to make a search engine that throws indians into rocks to find data?
you're all nuts.
:D
09:11
lol
dude...
there is a joke here "if you throw a stone in the sky 9/10 it will land on an engineer"
checks sarscam button behind CF's back. soldered to 'off'.
no I think he meant to throw rocks at athem
so i just used a modified version of it
since every indian is a engineer xD
09:13
lol
you are just a bot
you are not counted
but he engineered himself
see xD
engineerreded
09:20
Engineering for indians is like DOS for computer
default program
btw eric i thought you might it interesting read about Indias war on medicine patents and how we stopped monopoly of companies and are successfully exporting very cheap medicine to the whole world
09:40
just saw tim fixed login screen with MVP
awesome pulling
only changed under the hood. Everything still works the same
more refactor is required in the use case, but this is good for now
why is it italic
0. should be blank
so only nerds understand it
09:44
i had to work on the mobile assignment. same MVP stuff
I changed bot to have a boring name and pic so it's clearer that she's a bot
i thought the bot was a he xD
why would she be a he :/
zucc
lol nice edit there lmao
09:52
haha
that just proves my point :D
@ColdFire why? my healthcare is free*.
shots fired
@MuratKaragöz brilliant!
o/
just kidding
sounds cool CF
@CptEric no i mean since you like this kind of stuff
oh i wasn't comparing to EU at all
everytime we ping you we should have to option to add a sarcasm tag.
09:54
i mean since you like ISRO you might be interested in these kind of stuff
:D
yeah it's interesting
i was just kidding
haha i know you were sarcastic i am just explaining my point
i mean just how many african and asian countries must have benefited from it?
sure EU doesnt need it
oh hell another list we don't want to be 1rst at.
spain ranks #1 at arms sales to conflicted governments haha
haha -> please germany just invade us already
09:58
@CptEric but what after that?
Perfection :D
murat xD
@ColdFire break the country apart in easily manageable micro nations and integrate them into the EU.
so you get catalonia , nice Idea

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