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7:00 PM
@PayelSenapati a man made virus could not mutate on distant command so that doesn't make sense. How you "tell" a virus to mutate when it's in somebody's body somewhere at the other side of the globe?
 
India just got 1 billion people with at least one dose
@MwBakker lol, not issuing command, virus can be made to mutate fast
I mean engineered so that it will mutate fast
 
@Ahmad I think it also correlates with the fact followed the development of the vaccine (trials, side effects etc...) The stuff people usually don't follow in a vaccine that's taken 10y to develop and that has been in the market for 20y :D
 
@twiz well yes but for example in my country we now allow areas without mask etc bcs most of us are vaccinated. Short saying: despite reduce of symptoms it still has very good chance to spread now
 
@PayelSenapati Provide a source or stop talking.
 
@MwBakker she is speaking from her experiences of creating viruses don't question her
 
7:02 PM
@twiz A source? Did you know she does disinformation and trolling as a side job?
 
@Mehdi awww I think you are mistaken her its her main job
 
@MwBakker yeah but mrna vaccines have also been in development for decades
not just the past few years
thats just misinformation
 
@Mehdi true, we all have had our shots that prevent horrible "ancient" deseases so we know why vaccines work
 
7:04 PM
@twiz check these links please
 
but yeah I don't call her an idiot to her face
just behind her back on r15
 
@PayelSenapati Theweek/Theprint .in, the de-facto go-to source for reliable scientific information. Totally not nationalism BS against your rival neighbor ;)
 
btw im calling my ex an idiot not your gf
 
@PayelSenapati please let us know when you are about to leave
@Mehdi Thanks man I couldn't say that because of some nationality related reasons
 
@MwBakker right, but you didn't follow a decade of development and trials so you're naturally not scared of them
 
7:07 PM
lol payel's sources are articles with no sources
 
@ballBreaker yep
They literally don't even mention who supposedly conducted the studies.
 
hey guys I found some really really nasty incriminating evidence actually against china for this, they clearly manufactured this virus in a lab
check out my source:
 
@asim understandable :-)
 
pastebin is actually very credible source as it is maintained by worldwide community
 
payel it's weird that you think a virus can be manufactured to mutate fast, yet you don't think the best manufacturer of all time (evolution) wouldn't create this virus
and by weird I mean incredibly stupid
 
7:12 PM
@ballBreaker I just found this damning evidence: pastebin.pl/view/9ec5f20c
I hear the author never tells a lie.
 
@ballBreaker as a supporting document: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
 
hahahaha
the title of the paste vs the paste itself
lmao
 
@ballBreaker This is quality of sources the modern world demands
Also, what if those two things are related? I'm just asking questions. Don't be a sheep.
 
hahah
does anyone here believe in curses
 
Tim
God damn it did I miss some prime time payel drama?
 
7:19 PM
@ballBreaker I do
 
Tim
I believe only in the curse of the black pearl
 
@Tim you did unfortunately
you could probably say some magic words to summon her back
 
@ballBreaker Well, clearly this room is cursed.
 
I think biden is a good president
I'm unsure about vladimir putin
china didnt make covid
guess not
@asim how would one go about determining if they were cursed and how would they dispel the curse
 
Yeah, I heard Vladimir Putin has actually been dead for decades and Russia is actually run by an American cyborg.
 
7:23 PM
hahahaha
that got an audible lol from me
 
@ballBreaker wish I knew
 
does anyone here know any witches
 
ya
what do you need one for
 
@ballBreaker Well, does anyone truly know themselves?
 
@Mauker looking for a witch to get rid of a hex I think one of my ex girlfriends put on me
 
7:25 PM
wow, what did you do
 
i unno pretty sure she gave me -AC on all saving throws though
gnarly hex
lol i unno im starting to think my dating life is cursed and it all started after one particular nasty ex gf
I'm mostly kidding, but also not ruling out the possibility of black magic
 
OK... Y'all... This is just getting waaaaay out of hand.
 
damn did i miss the drama
 
The statement was bad in the first place and I deleted it as such... but @PayelSenapati - you MADE IT WORSE by responding in kind instead of just flagging and moving on.
 
@Catija sorry, just felt very bad when my religion got disrespected
 
7:32 PM
@Tim You don't have freedom of speech here. This is a private website and we have expectations that you treat others with respect.
@PayelSenapati I understand that. The message had already been deleted when you posted what you did, though. Maybe you didn't notice that and I haven't suspended either of you because I understand that this may be a complicated situation.
 
lmao
 
oo just in time
 
I need an adult
thank god mehdi is here
 
@ballBreaker Your claws are going to get rubber-banded for that pastebin.
 
@ballBreaker I leave for ten minutes and there is drama, smh
 
7:36 PM
now i want to know what tim said
 
@JBis He said JBis is violating the TOS because he's only 7.
 
hahah
 
50 mins ago, by asim
jbis is 12, I am 14 years old
i was just 12 an hour ago
 
Alternative facts brah
 
hahahaha
 
Tim
7:38 PM
@Catija remind me how Monica was treated again? Don't bother clicking the button I'll show myself the door
 
his age is accelerating at an alarming rate
 
@Tim please don't
 
your age got deducted in your absence
 
guns absolutely blazing red hot
its interesting that the spell for summoning payel into chat is also going to get you suspended
black magic is banned from stack overflow
 
See, I told you this room was cursed.
 
7:42 PM
That's a somewhat odd response, to be honest. I handle a flag silently, without suspending someone for something that... a half hour out of chat wouldn't have been unwarranted for... and then get snapped at for being restrained in how I handled it.
 
He was clearly emotional. I wouldn't read too much into it. 🤷‍♂️
 
@Tim xD
 
yeah I think your response to the situation was reasonable cat
 
#justicefortim
 
#freehat
 
7:45 PM
@Catija thanks for de-escalating, as the french say "il n’y a pas mort d’homme". Thanks again for not using the suspension tool you have at hand
 
who was the community manager everyone hated
he probably thought you were her
 
If you're talking about Sara, she was the Director of Community and she left the company in May.
 
I honestly didn't know a "community manager" was even a thing until today. lol
 
Hi! :D
 
👋
 
7:47 PM
Say what
 
Oooh, someone who uses emoji. :P
 
if Catija is a girl, I am switching sides
 
I believe that's the one!
asim you cant just switch sides, you are born to one side, its not a choice
anakin didnt choose to kill those kids, he was always dark side
 
I'm not a girl, I'm a lady. :P
 
words too big. 😎👍
 
7:49 PM
what is going on
 
Though, depending on who you ask, some may tell you I'm a carrot.
 
What
 
well I think everyone needs some lemonade
 
@JBis We have a cursed lobster in the room and now everything is hexed.
 
Just an in-joke I have with one of the other SO chat rooms. :D I don't think any of them hang out in here, though.
 
Lemonade is lovely! :D
 
on second thought, what IS going on
 
lmao
 
What
 
I was hanging out in the election chat room and saw a flag, handled it, saw another flag, popped in and ... that was about it.
 
7:52 PM
two mods?!
 
@twiz hahaha
 
usually its just Rob occasionally making sure we aren't burning the place down
 
V2 and I are staff. We don't actually know anything about programming.
 
we should flag stuff more often, just get mods in here
 
And I don't even use Android. :P
 
7:53 PM
"does that mean the mods can't read this cause it's code";
 
@Catija Hey, I know one or two things about programming :P
 
I know that != means "does not equal" :D
 
It's ok, I'm pretty sure half the people in here don't even know what Android is.
 
Did you read the rules? xD
3
 
lmao gottem grrig
 
7:54 PM
Oooh, rules?!
 
What's the difference between a Mod and a CM?
 
Catija loves rules. :P
 
The rules don't apply to me. :P
 
lol
 
202
Q: Who is on the Community Management Team, and what does it do?

jcolebrandThe members of the Community Management Team (sometimes referred to as the Community Team or CMs) are employees of Stack Exchange the company, but not all SE employees are Community Management Team members. When visiting the profile of staff members there is an orange label indicator of that on t...

 
7:54 PM
@Mehdi I have 170+ diamonds. Most mods only have 1-6.
Also, I get a paycheck.
 
@Catija i live by that motto
 
Aloha!
 
@Catija okay that's a flex lol
 
that's crazy, I also get paid to talk in this chat
4
 
Also:
181
Q: Who are the diamond moderators, and what is their role?

Brad MaceSome people have a diamond after their username (e.g. Michael Myers ♦) What special privileges do diamond moderators have? How can I become a diamond moderator? Who are the diamond moderators? How many are there? For more information, see Who are the site moderators, and what is their ro...

 
7:55 PM
Just a little one. That said, I had two diamonds of my own before I got hired. :D
 
I guess more a Kotlin question than Android, but any idea why doing Class.forName("kotlin.Any") throws a ClassNotFoundException? Is it because Any aliases Object? Wait, no it doesn't.
 
@ballBreaker gold
 
What?
 
@ballBreaker You know what, before I got hired here, I got paid to use SE all the time, too... because my job was so slow I spent more time in chat (though not on SO) than I did doing actual work. :)
 
@V2Blast thanks
 
7:56 PM
 
@Catija hahaha exactly the case for me
 
@Mehdi No problem! :)
 
Do you get 1 diamond per SE site you moderate?
 
Mods do, yeah. For CMs, we get them by default as part of the job. We need access to all of the mod tools on all of the sites so that we can do our jobs effectively. :)
 
neat
whats your least favourite SE site
makes you cringe just thinking about having to moderate it
 
8:00 PM
@ballBreaker StackOverflow - php tag
 
Tim
@ballBreaker meta.stackoverflow.com probably
It's a joke btw. I'm cooled down no worries
 
@Tim sigh of relief
 
Religion is not something to be joked about
 
@PayelSenapati Payel - chill !
 
hahahaha
 
8:02 PM
we closed the topic, and moved on
Jbis...
 
lol
 
@ballBreaker HAHA. That's a hard question. Honestly, the Windows Phone site has a little sore spot in my craw - it's a dead product but we keep the site around - it's less about moderation and more about maybe we should push the content over into Retrocomputing or something :)
 
ignore jbis he is too young to be mad at
 
@Catija pushing windows phone stuff to "Retrocomputing", now that's a roast
 
:D I figured it might play well in here.
 
8:05 PM
this is dumbest issue :(
I need to test whether a method deletes the proper card. But the only method I can use to access the hards remaining requires the number of cards remaining as an input. But I don't know how many cards remain because I don't know if the card war remoed.
 
@Catija LOL rekt
 
"But the only method I can use to access the Cards remaining requires the number "of cards remaining as an input" obvious design flaw
 
@JBis damn you should just fail the course instead
 
@asim agreed
 
yeah honestly, just give up.. also use a Set or a Map to keep track of the deleted cards
 
8:09 PM
just tell your teacher that nobody tests in the real world
 
@JBis why would that be required as an input?
Why thank you good sir! I gleefully accept your invitation to the trash can this fine evening.
5
 
hahaha
 
LMAO
 
@twiz Side effect of moving the message (can't turn it off sadly)
 
8:13 PM
All good, just thought it was funny. lol
 
> Gleefully: in an exuberantly or triumphantly joyful manner.
awesome word :D
 
It's the only proper way to enter the trash can.
 
@twiz because a precondition of the function is that there are still cards in the hand
 
maybe there's just a spelling mistake in your code somewhere and that's why it doesn't work
hehehe
 
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?
 
8:16 PM
Still seems like an odd way to be checking that.
 
it's dumb
the correct solution is to do the method differently, but i can't because that's the assignment
 
Meh, just half-ass it. You don't need an A. No one will ever care about anything other than the fact that you got a degree.
 
I think he wants to go into crypto though.. aka graduate degree
so you should prioritize grades above your own life probably
 
Tim
In NL you don't even need a degree. I don't even know where mine is, have never had to show it to anyone. Nobody has ever asked about it either
 
yeah my first job asked for a transcript and now it's just based on trust
no idea where mine is either, prolly a closet in my parents place
 
8:20 PM
@ballBreaker I believe that's pronounced "masochist".
 
@Machavity I stumbled upon a post where the link is broken and points to a nsfw website, flagged it yesterday but it's still there, should I share it with you?
 
It's the drama over?
 
Tim
He won't say we already asked
 
@Tim I didn't mean literally. I'm saying you can put it on your resume/CV without committing fraud. lol
 
@twiz hahaha yep
 
8:21 PM
@Catija why do you keep the site around?
 
@JBis the chat is pg13... :D
 
alright im gonna go pay to waste an hour and half of my life in something they call class
 
@Mehdi The easiest solution to a broken link like that is typically just to edit the post yourself to fix the broken link (or remove it, if it's unnecessary), though a mod flag and/or meta post may be worthwhile if it's a large-scale problem (e.g. a domain that's commonly referenced in many Q&As the site).
 
it's weird, mehdi finally decides to go back to answering questions on SO, gets a little present and immediately looks the gift horse in the mouth
 
cya o/
 
8:22 PM
@grrigore Technically? Because it hasn't qualified for removal. We made a promise back in 2015 or so that we wouldn't remove sites that were low-traffic as long as they were still moderated. As far as I'm aware, Windows Phone still has mods and so it can stay around. We don't have a specific policy about retiring a site when the tech dies.
 
@V2Blast ah okay, it says that the edit queue is full, so i'll just leave it there
 
@grrigore I don't think the site's really suffering from a lack of sufficient moderation, so there hasn't been reason to shut it down on that basis - it's just a knowledgebase about a discontinued product.
 
Yeah, the suggested edit queue only has 500 spots and they tend to be full quite frequently. We need more people to review suggested edits so that they can be cleared out but there's not a ton of reviewers and there are lots of edits suggested! I guess it's a good thing that people are trying to improve posts that they find.
 
@Catija why would anyone bother moderating that? what is there to even moderate?
 
Can't it be closed like not able to ask/answer etc
Make it require no moderation and just archive it
Something like that
 
8:24 PM
@ballBreaker hahaha no, I unfortunately don't have time to contribute, only consumption :/
 
Or are there still people using Windows Phones for some weird purpose?
 
I had one
 
We can... sure. We just haven't gotten to the point it was necessary. Lots of people have asked about it but it seems to be doing OK and some people do still have Windows Phones out there - remember, it's like the Android site - it's about users, not devs.
 
Interesting
 
perma ban all users and close the site down so nobody will complain or know it ever existed
 
8:26 PM
Android is about the users not the devs haha the truth has been spoken
 
btw where do I Apply for moderator position?
 
@twiz can you believe in uni (10y ago or so lol), I had the choice to do a project in windows phone or phonegap, for some weird reason I opted for phonegap (now apache cordova)
 
Is the f word suitable for this chat?
 
@Mehdi isn't cordova kind of dead now too?
 
just think mehdi, you could have been a user on that site
 
8:27 PM
well, on it's way out
 
@twiz unfortunately no..
But I hope you're right
 
@twiz no idea, i'm a bit slightly outdated in the mobile world, but I know Apple released the Shazam Kit and it's awesome :D
 
oh btw mehdi
my new job uses Macs <_<
 
Do Windows Phones still function properly? I assume MS had some type of app store, that is no longer maintained.
 
Why do I feel like I'm following your career path
 
Tim
8:29 PM
Mehdi give me the link and I will handle it, I can edit bypassing the queue
 
@ballBreaker Get ready to stop hating your life.
 
@ballBreaker yeah serious employers don't use windows, only mac :D
 
@twiz if they didn't brick them with malicious updates like google did to pixels, they should be functional
 
@Tim okay, give me a sec to find it again
 
well they told me I could use a windows if I want but none of the devs use it
 
8:30 PM
@twiz does windows phone even exist anymore?
 
so I was like well fuck now I gotta
 
A totally failed project
 
@Tim when you're done your edit feel free to send me the link becuase I also have special privileges that allow me to do stuff
 
Tim
Bb get ready on discord Mehdi is about to pass me the link
 
yeah intercept it
 
8:31 PM
For dev stuff, it wastes so much time fighting Windows over every stupid little thing.
 
Tim - sent XD
 
@Mehdi I asked first, that is not fair
 
Firefox once released some low cost phones
 
yesterday, by asim
@Mehdi thats really bad! Can you share the link to the answer?
 
cross it, cross it mate!
 
Tim
8:32 PM
Selling the link 5$
 
I'm open!
 
@asim but you don't have the rep Tim has, so you couldn't have edited it :D
 
xD
 
wide open net infront of me here
 
@Mehdi I am a feared haxor and you know that
 
8:33 PM
@asim hmmm... My Pixel 2 still works fine. I don't use it as my actual phone, but it still works aside from the battery being trash.
 
@twiz I don't find I waste any time tbh, but I'll see how I feel once I get used to a mac
 
Well, it's fine once you get the environment set up.
 
I have a feeling I'll just hate it even more but I'm allowing myself to be open minded as I haven't spent the exorbitant amount of money on the thing
 
I am a Linux addict, won't ever use anything else
 
@ballBreaker honestly, it's gonna change your life
 
8:34 PM
@twiz lucky you, disable updates while you can
 
that's a bold statement
 
1. gets a mac
2. gets a girlfriend
3. gets a promotion
is what I'm expecting now
 
@asim I haven't had wifi turn on for a few months though, so that could be why.
 
@ballBreaker before 3 you have to get a chair and warm it up a bit at that new company :D
 
8:35 PM
@ballBreaker what's so special about mac that linux can't give u
 
@twiz My understanding is that they're not being supported but they still function - someone on MSO was actually frustrated recently that their Windows phone doesn't work on SO any more - because it's sorely out of date.
 
@PayelSenapati idk you tell me, I hate macs
I just don't wanna be the only noob on a windows
 
@ballBreaker Moderators are elected by the community - there's an election going on right now here on SO - we have about one per year, usually.
 
haha yeah I know, sorry, was a joke based on this
9 mins ago, by ballBreaker
perma ban all users and close the site down so nobody will complain or know it ever existed
 
Linux can do everything other than the gaming stuff I guess (high end gaming)
 
8:36 PM
@twiz I have a dead pixel right in front me of as we speak, because of that stupid update
 
@Mehdi Mod flag I assume. Those are slower, but we do get to them. In that case, I would just edit the bad link out. There's no need to delete it or even mod flag. Handled it tho
 
the matter of fact is that the brand Nokia got desstroyed due to Windows.
 
@Machavity thanks! how... did you know which link it was? :D
 
Now they are trying hard to come back using Android
 
@ballBreaker Ah! Gotcha. :D Missed that in trying to skim the room. :)
 
8:38 PM
@Mehdi I can look up your flags. Wasn't hard to find and you'd commented what the proper link was
 
@Mehdi Now I am concerned about my privacy
 
@PayelSenapati I love Nokia
 
@asim which pixel?
 
Best phones ever
What Mac update?
 
funny so many uneducated guys jumped up -"Windows wow a great OS the Windows phne must be great" .. stupid guys
 
8:39 PM
@twiz it is pixel XL but every pixel that is out of warranty can die any moment by design
 
@PayelSenapati guys is not very inclusive, consider using "folks" or "people"
 
Now their phones are trash with no support for windows phone anymmore
 
@Machavity 👍👍👍
 
I bet the nokia I got for free in like 2004 still turn on. I'm not sure where it is. It might even be in a landfill right now, but I bet it still turns on.
 
and its not just me accusing google, its proven fact
 
8:40 PM
The windows phone was great
Had a Nokia Lumia something
 
@asim Sounds like a lawsuit in the making.
 
@grrigore if it was great how it lost out and now a discontinued product?
 
Tim
@Mehdi uneducated is also not very inclusive, as I'm an educated guy who dislikes windows
 
@asim Yeah, I wouldn't really be surprised. Pixels are great phones when they're new though. lol
 
Because people are too obsessed with iPhone and Samsung
And cheap China stuff
With a touch of surveillance
 
8:42 PM
@grrigore that's false people are obsessed with iOS and Android, not iPhone and Samsung
 
Let Samsung bring out a windows phone, it will be immediately super flop
 
@grrigore I never owned one, but I always thought the UI stuff looked weird. Lots of unnecessarily giant boxes. Was it actually pleasant to use?
 
Yes
From my point of view
 
@Tim I have to agree with you, also I was taught as a kid to never call anyone "stupid" or "dumb", and I think I can count the number of people I qualified as "stupid" since then
 
8:43 PM
But was lacking apps
 
Nokia was actually a super power sort off when bought by Microsoft
 
Great camera tho
 
anyone thinking of buying a pixel phone should visit the link I just pasted
 
@twiz i wanted to get one because I knew their store was still a green field and thought I'd make some money, I procrastinated as usual, and the platform died... one of those very rare times where procrastination is actually fruitful lol
 
I am waiting for 5G phone prices to drop before buying a new handset, at present it is too high @asim
India is going to launch 5G in 2022
 
8:46 PM
great achievement
 
@asim what's wrong with the pixel?
 
Tim
What even is a use case for 5G that is not covered by 4G?
 
@PayelSenapati I recently purchased mi note 10 5g for my uncle, not that expensive
 
the movie that took 10 minutes to download will now take 1 minute I guess
 
honestly, just lower latency and increased bandwidth
 
8:48 PM
@asim is it 5g?
 
@Mehdi you have nice parents
my mother was like "make sure you call people stupid so they think you're smarter than them"
 
@grrigore they get bricked coz of malicious updates by google
 
she didnt actually say that
 
@ballBreaker thanks :D
 
@PayelSenapati as I mentioned, YES
 
Tim
8:48 PM
Name one person who downloads movies on their phone while not at home
 
Which update?
 
@ballBreaker hahaha
 
@asim when is Pakistan launching 5g?
well then maybe ultra-high definition voice calls in 5g
 
@PayelSenapati not sure idc that much but it will be much faster as happened with 4g
 
Isn't 5g also able to handle a LOT more connections at once? I don't know anything about the technical side though.
 
8:51 PM
@twiz its great, only downside is that towers don't have that much range, many times more towers are required for proper coverage
 
Still makes a lot of sense in densely populated cities.
 
In India data cost is the cheapest in the world
 
(I assume)
 
@PayelSenapati also, 4g quality is awesome here
 
@asim good
 
8:52 PM
Sep 27 at 20:38, by asim
internet is still rocking 100mbps on 4g tho
 
I think the only usecase where I really saw the value of 5g was remote robotic-surgical operations, where the body is cut open and can't wait for a few seconds to make a move by the surgeon-robot arm commanded remotely by a human surgeon in another country
 
@asim in 5g it will be 1GBps
 
@Mehdi That sounds super sketchy though.
 
@PayelSenapati 100gbs for 0.58 usd, 1 week but only from 1AM to 9AM
 
Like some interference might kill someone. lol
 
8:53 PM
@asim I use Airtel, that provides me excellent 4G
other major players in India are Vi and Jio
 
@Mehdi makes sense
 
well... thanks for the drama everyone! ✌️
 
I was thinking about like.. you know those cardboard box things to turn your phone into a VR "headset" ?
so I was thinking maybe if you were streaming 4K adult videos to VR on your phone
reasonable use case
 
@ballBreaker asim will find it unethical
 
Tim
I'm convinced
Asim is 14 he has no idea what bb meant
 
8:56 PM
@twiz oh definitely, i think they're barely developing this, every single piece of the equation is to be solved (operator training, latency, precision of the robotic arm, contingency plan if the arm breaks etc...) pretty sure it's just R&D at this point
 
@Tim now I am curious can you please explain it to me?
 
@asim any idea what bb meant?
 
Tim
Sorry bro the mods will delete my account if I say any more
 
@asim Just concentrate on the word "adult"
 
everyone got it Payel... asim is trolling
 
8:57 PM
> a person who is fully grown or developed.
 
@asim the correct word is when one reaches p*berty
 
Tim
"or" mother of roasts (I know there are conditions that could cause it but still)
 

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