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11:02 AM
a decent developer would question that result and rework it after some research
 
> a decent developer
> android developers
 
would have flagged if it was a single message. Now the context and thus the offense is not clear
 
someone with conscience might do.
con-science
con science
thanks
 
May 15 at 12:48, by Tim Castelijns
I flagged the message "Will trigger the shorty". Nobody came in to check the context, and it was deemed not offensive because out of context nobody knows what it means ¯_(ツ)_/¯ nice system
you're repeating yourself m8y
tim confirmed bot
actually now that I read the entire message it's not that
but I had a dejavu that you actually said literally the same thing just the other day
:o
 
tim is a botnet
made of dutch food
 
11:11 AM
we are all tim
and tim is us
tim is not a person but a way of life
/ahmad is in shitpost mode
 
user443346
11:27 AM
@Ahmad A bot doesn't need to repeat himself tho
 
24th May 2018
have a quack
 
user443346
11:44 AM
This zuckerbot meme is just too much:
 
user443346
 
@ColdFire king of weird errors, what is this? NullPointerException: Attempt to invoke virtual method 'boolean com.android.org.conscrypt.SslWrapper.isClosed() it stops firebase from updating data
 
user443346
 
@Jordy "my chinese concubine will be displeased with me" XD
 
@Ahmad lol what mate?
 
user443346
11:50 AM
@TimCastelijns I would never take the time to read so much text but in this case, worth it
 
@TimCastelijns wrapper is null well ignore the error
Nothing really you can do about it
 
app doesn't function when this happens
 
How often does it happen?
 
once in 28 years so far
 
XD
 
12:04 PM
Lunch Time!!!! :D
 
Hey, guys, do you know who Frank van Puffelen is?
 
user443346
He's a guy at Google's team
 
almost, Firebase team
I've opened flags queue - his answer was marked as low quality xD
 
might be an audit
 
Yeah, actually. Who actually thought it's low quality? Answer is correct btw
 
12:13 PM
o/
 
user443346
I don't see how that is low quality, can you be more specific in this situation? I don't think so.
 
I don't see that too, ask that one who flagged him
 
No code -> low quality
you should know that!
 
OMG, I've made a terrible mistake and pressed "Looks OK"
I'll be banned for that xD
 
Heresy!
 
12:29 PM
Hiya Mauker!!!!!! :D
 
Wompah!
 
god help me I have to write a mildly complex gradle config
 
@Carl since you're here for a while, you might know god ^
 
user443346
Is it normal if my app uses 2GB ram :D?
 
user443346
I don't think so
 
same^
but knowing samsung anything is possible
 
user443346
Slap me in the face please, I for looped an Asynctask
 
user443346
x)
 
12:53 PM
@TimCastelijns well ... why did you even bother with that error then?
slaps jordy in the face
sends @Jordy to the noob corner
 
user443346
it was because of testing, didn't notice the .execute() inside the for :d
 
I thought today was Friday for some reason
 
user443346
I haven't worked in days
 
user443346
Boss was on holidays, so I worked at home.
 
how's your job search progressing?
 
user443346
12:56 PM
Got hired ^^
 
nice
you got fired before?
 
user443346
Never got fired
 
nice! 2 months notice period?
 
user443346
People actually like me
 
user443346
Yeah 2 months
 
12:57 PM
jk
nice
a good pay rise?
 
user443346
Yeah going 500 euro up
 
user443346
^^
 
user443346
Will be around €2500,-
 
user443346
excl taxes
 
@Jordy nice! Congrats Jordy
 
12:58 PM
Oh, that's great salary, congrats :3
 
user443346
Thanks guys ^^
 
Congrats!!!!! :D
 
Congratz Jordy!
 
Yep really good increase in salary! Proud of you Jordy
 
user443346
Thanks aswell Womp/Mauker
 
user443346
1:00 PM
Still negotiating about my contract but will come to final version soon\
 
How are you supposed to negotiate pay? Every employer always asks for expected wage and then they'll just offer you that lol
 
Counter offer
 
Is this how it's done in Scotland?
 
Like I guess if they offer you what you expect, you can't really turn around and be like "yeah actually I change my mind, pay me this"
 
That's when he points a gun at his employer
 
1:02 PM
@MehdiB. I think a lot of interviews would ask for your expected salary
Recruiters 100% do it
 
user443346
@MarkO'Sullivan Counter offer, every contract is negotiable
 
Sometimes they offer you below your expected salary
 
user443346
If they want you that bad: They'll comply
 
@Jordy even if they match your expected salary that you said?
 
@MarkO'Sullivan aaah, sorry I missed the "expected" part :D
 
1:03 PM
You make a counter offer to find a middle ground
 
user443346
@MarkO'Sullivan Jup
 
ask a 50% raise, tell them you're joining with an army of r15 developers for support when things go south
 
That's what happened to me
 
user443346
Thats what I did now
 
1:03 PM
Thanks for the tip
 
I asked for X, they offered me Y (less than X)
I made a counter offer of Z
 
Z being below X right?
I can understand that
 
Y < Z < X
 
but I wouldn't want to seem like an ass for asking higher than what I originally said I'd expect
 
When you want X, you always ask for X + a
 
1:04 PM
^
 
Yeah I'd do that Mehdi
 
then you negotiate on that base and keep a bottom line you're not willing to go below
 
When I got the interview here, I was expecting to start between a range of values
 
(which could be X - epsilon for ex)
 
user443346
@MarkO'Sullivan You're not, you're not joining that company to fullfill their dreams
 
1:05 PM
I asked $100 above the top of my range lmao
 
user443346
You're there to fullfill your own
 
@Jordy I like the way you think
All of that "company is family" is bullshit
 
user443346
Exactly
 
@MarkO'Sullivan just ask for 10k and they will be like "ehh how about half?" and you say ok. Nice and easy 5k
 
user443346
Nobody gives a shit about you when you won't earn a dine for the company
 
user443346
1:06 PM
Family my ass
 
there are other companies, where you just tell them: give me your package
 
@TimCastelijns I wish :D
 
and they do without basing their offer on your current salary
 
user443346
@MehdiB. That seems a little sexist
 
And sometimes the company already states how much they're going to pay for a position
 
1:07 PM
Some interview processes for companies are insane. If I wanted to do that much work, I'd just do my own side project thanks
 
user443346
What if he actually lets you touch his package
 
those are a bit harder to negotiate
 
user443346
Thats a big risk Mehdi
 
hahaha
 
I had to live from side projects for a while
It's damn risky and volatile
 
1:07 PM
@MarkO'Sullivan this is gold! XD
 
user443346
Side projects ;_; always make me cry
 
user443346
I actually played a card game for my 2nd interview
 
@MehdiB. not but seriously, they make you do like an entire app just to get an interview? Fuck those guys.
 
user443346
Where they can see how someone's character is
 
@MarkO'Sullivan I know the feeling
Imagine if they give you only two days to do that
 
1:08 PM
Look at my github / stack overflow profile maybe not that, my earliest questions are embarrassing as fuck
 
and ask you for perfectly written code
 
@MarkO'Sullivan this is an excellent interview strategy though. It is the best way to test someone's skills
 
my eye hurts
 
@TimCastelijns if they can be assed applying
 
user443346
It actually is indeed
 
1:09 PM
@TimCastelijns I'm not against code challenges
 
user443346
You can't tell how somebody's coding skills are within <2 months
 
It's a good way to test someone's skills for sure
 
Home code challenges are dumb. Nothing to stop interviewee going to more experienced friend and getting them to do it for them
 
But you can't just ask "build an instagram app" for a code challenge
 
@TimCastelijns way better than online theoretical coding stuff, since you're in a real situation
@MarkO'Sullivan what's your ideal skills test?
 
1:11 PM
@Jordy the police operation just ended, the detaineds have all been freed without charges.
 
@MarkO'Sullivan Yeah, but. That will come out short very quickly after you get the job
Unless you do like a guy I saw once
He got a job, and paid a china team to do the coding
 
@MehdiB. have a look through their GitHub / Stack Overflow / own developed apps and see if they know enough about the stuff I'd like / or if they do enough stuff outside of their 9-5 jobs
 
(Not talking about you @DaveS)
 
the newspapers now say it might have been a scapegoat operation to distract because today the ruling party's trial for corruption was scheduled
 
He actually got away with it for months.
 
1:13 PM
@MarkO'Sullivan that's valid, shows you're highly motivated to build your skills. What if you build products but don't really contribute to Github or SO?
 
@MehdiB. That's my case
Most of the stuff I built is not stated in either of those
although I did build something on SO and Github
 
@MehdiB. then you don't enjoy your career and those are the sort of developers I'd rather avoid because they're less motivated / eager to stay up to date
 
But they're like 10% of what I actually did (or less)
 
that's a false conclusion mark
 
very false :D
 
1:15 PM
I know many competent developers, who love their jobs, and don't give a damn about answering on SO
 
It's not just about SO
 
some people simply don't have the time. Some people don't have the energy after a long day of non stop coding at the office, to continue coding at night at home. Some people want to go to the gym at night, some people want to spend time with their family, etc
 
SO was just an example
 
@Jordy congrats
 
could just show you don't have time or don't consider contributing to be a top priority
 
1:15 PM
Some of those don't like to do Open source stuff and share on github
 
@TimCastelijns this
 
But they're amazing on what they do
 
personally I have plenty of time, but I prefer playing games at home
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
you mispelled Runescape
 
Some people don't have time to work at home, but have time to chat on SO while in office xD
 
1:18 PM
:D
 
I prefer developing products on my free time, not tools, if some tool gets built along the way of that product development and it's alright to opensource it, yeah cool
 
@TimCastelijns yeah I guess those people you can give tests to cause there's no other way to judge their skills
 
r15 is a big rubber duck, it's beneficial to the job
 
@Mauker lol
 
goddamn xcode don't know how to push to github if 2FA is enabled
I'm fucked up
 
1:19 PM
Use sourcetree
 
user443346
@CptEric Thats a good thing isnt it
 
user443346
Mark, stalked your profile.. you always look high as a kite. Love it, join the dark side.
 
that's not true. It might help to not think of it as a "test", but as an opportunity to showcase your skills
 
yeah
one of the detained was a 74 year old grandpa tho, the ex director of the barcelona metropolitan office
 
Mark, it also depends a lot on the spot they're trying to fill. Sometimes a SO and Github profile, or even some published apps aren't enough to prove that you'll be a good person to fill a señor spot
 
1:22 PM
@Jordy picture or profile? :D
 
user443346
My bad, I'm also high
 
I'm also high, I'm 183 cm tall
 
user443346
Ha, tiny boy!
 
user443346
I'm 2 whole centimeters longer
 
@Jordy You talking about CF?
 
user443346
1:23 PM
Hahahaha Mister 1.60
 
user443346
Here in NL @ColdFire would've such a bad time. Asking girls to get him something from the higher shelfs, must be a little awkward
 
grabs popcorn
 
@Jordy maybe I am always high...
 
:o
 
user443346
Nah, you cringe too fast
 
user443346
1:26 PM
I'm high elo @ League of Legends
 
@Jordy well i was born in NL i would have been tall so this point is irrelevant
 
user443346
@TimCastelijns Reached diamond on Lol last week, are you proud?
 
user443346
@ColdFire Unless your parents are still Indian :p
 
user443346
The country wouldn't matter in that case
 
1:27 PM
i don't care either way
 
user443346
Hahah no I'm just kidding man, I'm not that tall for a Dutchie anyway
 
user443346
Most of my friends are like 5-10 cm taller
 
you giants and your clouds
 
well i am around 17cm tall than average height here
lol womp
 
user443346
The average here is @ 181 cm for guys
 
user443346
1:30 PM
And 172 or 176 for women if im right
 
@ColdFire A giant among dwarfs
 
@Jordy also well its 1.75m
 
user443346
Hahaha oops
 
Here's 170cm for dudes, 158cm for dudettes
 
user443346
I could feel your cringe from The Netherlands
 
user443346
1:32 PM
like 5000Km away
 
well i am just correcting you
jordy the 1.65m dutch
 
user443346
:DDDD
 
user443346
Nice bait mate
 
user443346
 
tHiS pIcTuRe AlWaYs mAkEs mE lAuGh
 
1:35 PM
tHiS pIcTuRe iS n0iCe
 
lmao
 
xD
 
wait I have one for this
user image
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LMAO
THAT WAS JUST ME
 
1:37 PM
xD
 
Mehdi nailed it
 
lol
 
Meta extreme sport
 
Metalympiads
 
@MehdiB. always makes me laugh too. Love it :D
 
1:41 PM
yes :D
 
@AdamMc331 bro that is all of us, always
 
1:56 PM
@AdamMc331 lol just in time
 
smh Mehdi's extreme sport meme outdid my ACTUALLY RELEVANT meme
smdh
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
It's a meta meme Adam
 
adam getting outdid is nothing new tho
 
2h left.... and I'm so tired
D:
 
i am super tired too
BUT TODAY POPCORN IT IS
 
2:04 PM
kay
I'll have a coffee
 
any of you guys have a stackoverflow Team™ for your company?
 
nope.
 
nope
 
nope.
 
2:10 PM
i'm not going to edit and put the dot
 
wy should we? it's mostly useless
 
^
womp do it lol
 
no!
 
don't do it
let OCD-ers die of stress
 
:(
 
2:11 PM
wait should that be flagged?
 
what is OCD?
 
Obsessional Compulsive Disorder
 
o_0
 
The three edits are a very good example of what it is.
3
 
Nice explanation :D
 
2:16 PM
heheh
^ if the unary h bothers you, you now know why
 
:)
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Also, have a third star for fuck sake
 
@TimCastelijns not yet, but I want to pitch the idea to the management
 
2:30 PM
lmao
 
Ohhh, new circle
hot
 
I am the sun
@Mauker always
@ColdFire yeah.. I get one about JS though
I had this problem so I though to use JavaScript.. Now I dont know what this is
 
@TimCastelijns nope.
 
@TimCastelijns Sobotics and Charcoal HQ have been using it.
 
2:42 PM
@Code-Apprentice I had this in mind as well. Was hoping for some "first thoughts" input
 
It works!
 
I had a problem so I thought to use JavaScript. Now I have undefined is not a function
user image
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Me: Not A Number?
Javascript: NaN?
6
 
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@glenatron hahahahaha
 
hahahaha
 
3:15 PM
I've backup of my keystore directly in git repo with plain text password from it in build.gradle
 
LMAO
So many stars in a row
 
It's my own private repo, who cares
 
@DimaRostopira make sure you got that in Github
 
I'll use today's quota quickly
 
Only place you can guarantee it will safe.
 
3:16 PM
I'm more afraid to loose github recovery codes file xD
 
If you don't backup your data, you don't own them, you're leasing it to fate.
 
Better to put it on google drive, yeah? xD
 
It's for the best.
 
Do it like this: Dropbox folder -> Google Drive folder -> One Drive folder -> your files
 
Good tricks.
The important thing is that you have some way of uniquely identifying yourself and make it clear that the document is your keystore, so you can type something like "Glenatron's Keystore" into google and find it.
All about the SEO.
Saves so much time.
 
3:19 PM
good approach
 
nice tip
 
Oh! Wait! I forgot the important part: Security.
Make sure you include a README.txt that says "THIS IS SECRET DO NOT READ!"
Otherwise people might read it.
 
lol
 
3:35 PM
gdpr has been fun
we just need a gdpr for all the data the governments collect now
 
nah, we need govts to deploy at large scales Amazon Rekognition and social credit systems
 
3:58 PM
TIme to go~~
Cya later people!!!! :D
 
Cya wompahhh
 
@AdamMc331 I just mocking spongebob'd my professor thanks to you ;P
 
Oi, thanks to mark
He found the generator
 
If anyone wants some easy upvotes I have your SurfaceView-not-transparent question right here: stackoverflow.com/questions/50511373/…
I imagine that it would be trivial for anyone with a grasp of what the heck is going on in Android's view hierarchy.
That person is not me.
 
Hello worlds
 
4:14 PM
adam's company got multiplied?
 
@ColdFire Ex
 
Why would it tho?
 
4:52 PM
@Ahmad Bash + excel
 
Is it RO abuse to pin the meme generator because I'm loving these
 
I'm not sure
But I know what was an abuse of RO powers
 
lmao
 
It's like I don't even know who you are anymore, Adam
It's like you've done a 180 from the McAdam I knew all those years ago
 

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