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2:04 PM
I need a way to differentiate how I met someone
sometimes I look at a fb friend and be like who is this person
 
try DiffUtils
 
much worse, when some people come in office, and say hi to you. and then you like "WTF? Who it is?" - "You were drinking vodka with her few weeks ago"
 
LOL
 
lol
@Ahmad create a multiple node based relational brain database of faces
 
@TimCastelijns from now on I'll just attach a bluetooth beacon on every person I'll meet
 
2:07 PM
generate circles based on node proximity
 
I already did
 
:O
 
then program your brain to forget it again
 
did I not post this here before
 
yep
I had tons of people from my school / back home on facebook
removed a shit ton of them
 
2:09 PM
OH awesome
 
a lot of them I have little / no interaction with
 
how did you
:o
amazing
 
yah same but fb doesn't show me their shit so it doesn't matter if I still have them in my friends list
 
OH lol
catalan hackers is quite big
am i in there?
 
yah got lots of barcelona friends
you're actually in the stackoverflow group
 
2:10 PM
and you haven't visited lleida
or went hiking with me
 
@Ahmad that's not the point, it's them seeing your stuff which is why I removed them. Don't want people who wont say hello to me in the street to know what I'm up to
 
</3
 
@Mauker with this: lostcircles.com
@MarkO'Sullivan oh yah true that, that's really creepy
@CptEric one day
 
@Ahmad it's an official term I think now, facebook creeping lol
 
let's see what that extension has for me
Faceeping.
 
2:11 PM
I was talking to someone I hadn't seen in a year and he knew what my facebook about me section said before I changed it
and I thought that was very weird
 
weird
i let people stalk me all they want.
 
How do I use this
 
worst thing that can happen?
 
they come up and ask you about what you were up to in city x the last week, the month before that when you were away on a vacation in country y, etc
 
you have to install the chrome extension
 
2:13 PM
plus if people can see you're away, you're opening yourself up to having your house being robbed
 
installed
 
i have a quite strict friends list
 
what now?
 
@Ahmad I had to quit it
Took way, way too long
 
start loading button doesn't seem to wurk
 
2:14 PM
And too much RAM
 
well yah you have like way too many fb friends
stop adding random strangers from hh raghav
 
too many fb bots*
 
every time I meet someone we always have you as a friend in common lmaooo
 
that happens to me with you ahmad
 
i'm everywhere o.o
 
2:16 PM
i know XD
goddamn
this extension seems to do nothing
 
you have to click it
 
sure isn't this a trick to bitcoin stuff?
 
dudes you're supposed to know how to do the codes
 
i am meant to code
not to look at -- % numbers
that's unparseable
-- is not a value
 
I clicked at it
it opened my fb friends page
and it's been there forever, no change
 
2:19 PM
yup
same here
 
@TimCastelijns i played the tutorial till now seems good to me
 
yes
just play for fun now. It will take a long time to fully understand the game
 
i seem to be winning in tutorial atleast for now lol
 
it took mine 40 mins
so you need to let it sit there
 
wow 40 mins
ahmad has a long list of friends
 
2:26 PM
not really it just parses the list manually
 
you can play with 4 other people vs AI CF, it's a bit more engaging
 
@Ahmad But I know most of them :(
 
@Cold what is your id? I can add you
 
Do I have to stay on the fb tab?
 
oooh
blizz id??
 
2:39 PM
It's working now!
 
can i add you too??
 
yes for bnet
 
you will be my friends number 2 and 3!! :D
 
omg w0mp
warhammer tw 2 is so hard
i love it.
 
I am Aiur#2522
 
2:41 PM
if only attila was as hard
i mean, it took me 6 turns to take a castle
bc i knew i would be fucked up if i conquered it with my full shitty army
in attila i could send a 20 stack of fodder and they would win
because my strategy on mass-army based kingdoms/empires is "choke the enemy with bodies".
and it's not possible in Wh tw 2
 
mine is W0MP3R#2687
 
@W0MP3R Never would've guessed
 
right?!
i'm full of suprises ;D
 
I could swear it was hiya!!!!
 
I guess you're not home atm, but I sent invite
 
2:45 PM
i believe i don't have a battlenet ID
 
90% of 16GB of ram used
Wtf circles
 
mauker, let's assume we're farming bitcoins for ahmad
and keep it working just incase
 
nup
not at home :(
 
Ohhh finally a percentage
10% done
 
are giphy links broken for everyone or just me? I know that they work fine on mobile
 
2:57 PM
why noob?
 
no bnet ID :D
 
I think it was a test
either that or he's trying to call anoobian
 
blizzard games i don't completely dislike: 1-2
ish
 
@TimCastelijns yup i am doing that currently
@TimCastelijns where is it mentioned?
 
user443346
@TimCastelijns Noice steam name - koekenbakker
 
3:00 PM
where is the id mentioned?
jordyman^
 
user443346
koekebakker also known as koeken
 
user443346
but his id.. let me see
 
in bnet app click on your name
 
ColdFire11811
ok found it^
 
user443346
3:02 PM
You can find me @ Kontjebeuks
 
@cpt you have to change your FB language to english for it to work
 
how to add friends
 
the hell
how do i do that mauker
 
damn i dont see any option
 
user443346
Open chat stuff
 
user443346
3:03 PM
Add friend @ lowest possible
 
i dont know what i did but it seems i created a channel
 
@CptEric Settings, language
 
user443346
You do realise I was talking about Steam, not Battle.net :P ?
 
CF click on the icon with 2 puppets top right
 
i did click on that and it created a group
not sure what after that
 
3:06 PM
@Mauker thanks
 
You're welcome. Please send thanks tokens here: LLpQJAhJKrvARsNQwS9gqZthSqmYpfwgSp (LTC)
 
if you go in game you will also see friend requests in the bottom right menu
 
i don't have LTC
 
:(
A hug is okay
 
hugs mauker
tim let me try that
tim found it
sent to tim and womp
@Jordy yours?
 
user443346
3:10 PM
KIRKDUIJT#2838
 
done sent
 
don't you see my invite cf
I guess you are on asia server
 
tim no :(
yup
 
come EU server
 
should i change the server to murica?
 
user443346
3:13 PM
EU ONLY!
 
oh ok
 
user443346
So if I have friends outside Europe, I cant add them?
 
wait what i dont see a option of EU
murica singapore and someothers etc...
 
I see US EU and asia
 
ok found it
i was actually playing on murica server
 
user443346
3:16 PM
Re-add pls
 
~(-.-~)
 
accounts are not shared between regions btw, you will start over in EU
 
D:
 
user443346
#Blizzard
 
what a poop
:(
 
3:19 PM
oh wtf
fuck you blizzard man :(
 
user443346
I didnt open blizzard app untill 5 mins ago.. what a circus
 
didn't even accept my invite FeelsBadMan
 
man i sent request to tim womp and jordy
 
o/
 
did anybody even got my request?
 
user443346
3:22 PM
didnt recieve tho
 
dammit have to play those 2 tutorial and then sent request
@TimCastelijns i didnt got it tim :(
 
you have a new ID now since you switched region
 
o/ adam
 
or maybe not
 
Hiya Adam!!!! :D
 
3:24 PM
why its showing connected to asia
 
when i get home i'll accept the invites :O
 
hello!
LMAO AT THE RAGHAV COMIC OMG
 
Yeah hahahaha
 
lmao true
adam whatsup?
 
Oh ya know. Over worked and over stressed. The usual.
 
3:26 PM
:(
 
lol. Some room owners would even pin that, it's so good
no pressure though
 
lmao tim
 
challenge accepted
 
@AdamMc331 i feel ya
 
well it was more of a bait then challenge
 
3:27 PM
@AdamMc331 need a hug?
 
Like ten
 
sends imaginary tristan coins to adam
 
@AdamMc331 sends virtual hug
hug gets lost in spanish post mail
 
I wanna write a book, but I don't know if I want to go through the effort required to write a book lol
 
about what?
The right to loose stuff, a guide on achieving great success through micro whoopsies
4
 
3:34 PM
basically
Nah Android Development with Kotlin
 
@TimCastelijns XD
 
i can help with that if you want
perhalps a chapter on kotlin integration with big android libraries out there
like Realm®
 
yeah it would need a chapter on Kotlin/Java interrop for sure.
 
seems like a waste of time to write programming books these days
 
I wondered the same tbh.
 
3:37 PM
you should see how much programming books sell
 
I still buy books
 
it's quite a big amount on the big scale if it reaches mainstreamity
 
Well ebooks
 
i'd buy physical books if they were soft-shelled, small , or cheapy
 
Hiya CA!!!!! :D
 
3:38 PM
but on my local bookstore the cheapest good book on neat programmign stuff is 20 guacamoles / unit
 
Hey womp!!
 
and i don't have the patience or money to keep replacing my kindle screen as i draw with a sharpie on it
 
I prefer books to blogs and docs because they present material in a logical progression that takes more effort to put together from disparate sources
I love my kindle!
A whole library in my pocket
 
sure. But a kotlin for android book would be outdated in a month
 
@W0MP3R you always make my day with your enthusiastic greetings 😁
 
3:43 PM
@TimCastelijns I was kinda thinking the same, but what's your justification for that?
 
if the book is a proof of concepts and a starting guide instead of a code copy, it won't be outdated easily
 
Well a book publication can take up to a year, so I have mixed feelings about that because I'd love to see Kotlin be standard in a year but I don't think that's realistic.
 
data types, namespace, java-kotlin pairss ( callbacks, rx stuff, etc)
 
if it's a starting guide, it is only useful for noobs, and if it aims to be a complete, it will be outdated the moment a concept/feature is added or removed
 
you can self publish in amazon adam
 
3:45 PM
In a year from now, I still think there will be people who know Java and be learning Kotlin.

The target audience would be existing Android developers who are working in Java, who would be interested to switching their development to Kotlin, or adopting it.
 
it's a good audience
 
those people don't need kotlin 101, they can read the docs
 
I spoke with a publishing company about this and plan to write a proposal but I am just gathering feedback now from you guys on what you think is important / if you think this is even relevant.
Exactly. I don't want it to be Kotlin 101.
 
even when current java devs are already in kotlin, UNIs and trainig centers will stay with java android longer
 
I want a brief intro to Kotlin, for the newbies, but then subsequent chapters highlighting how Kotlin can speed up/advance/whatever your Android development.
 
3:47 PM
I think you'd be better off with an online subscription thing
 
You mean like Android Essence? rofl
 
are you offering kirkflix as adam's platform for kotlin stuff ?
 
@AdamMc331 DO IT!
 
:D Okay I have one supporter good start
 
the book should be 25% intro to kotlin for android/java mainestream devs atleast. i'm in too for supporting you.
 
3:48 PM
@TimCastelijns this is true, so many frequent updates
 
I've seen a lot of people subscribed to Scribd or Safari's online books
 
Hold on I don't agree that Kotlin for Android will be outdated in a month
 
most official docs offer frankly too little information on basic stuff to be useful for people deciding if it's worth it
 
sure there are updates to the language but there are core features that are matured and standard that can be discussed?
 
a MOOC could also have a large audience on Coursera or Udemy
 
3:49 PM
I expect an autographed copy
 
the parts that will not be outdated are already in books that someone else wrote
 
you're not helping tim
:P
 
Also true. So here is the biggest competition to this idea so far - amazon.com/Kotlin-Android-Developers-Learn-developing/dp/…
No no it's okay I need people like Tim to play the critic card
 
30$ paperback
 
because I don't want to write it knowing everyone will use it, that's not realistic. So I need to have a solid understanding of why some people /won't/ so that I can cater around that as well.
 
3:50 PM
and it's more of a kotlin 101 book
"learn while making an example app"
not your kind of book
 
Apparently you make shit money for writing books
 
^ I own that
 
Get yourself on the tutorial website Donn Felker runs
 
who?
 
3:51 PM
Oo
Castor.io
 
caster
 
Donn Felker - one of the founders of fragmented podcast
 
Fragmented Podcast host @CptEric
 
if you plan on doing that, do it now. The sub prices are going to skyrocket after black friday
 
3:52 PM
me | a whole galaxy | podcasts
 
@MarkO'Sullivan I'm not in this for the money. I care about spreading knowledge and education. Also I would have a lot more luck finding a new job if I was a published author lmao
 
yay
 
honestly the best way to spread knowledge is on SO
 
@AdamMc331 you looking for a new job?
 
worst case scenario = you wrote a book, and gained experience by doing so
best case scenario = you wrote a book, and people gained knowledge by reading it
 
3:53 PM
I appreciate the comments from all of you. Everything was valuable in my decision here. I will likely move forward with sending my proposal to the publishing company regardless, but it's going to take me a few days to write and you all gave me a lot to think about.
@MarkO'Sullivan Yeah
I'm not doing Android full time right now. Haven't been for a several months. Really trying to get back into it.
 
i can offer you 4 paellas a month as salary
 
I read that by 2020 USA will have 1 million unfilled developer positions. I don't think you need to publish a book to get a job
 
Unfortunately I'm out of vacation days for the year so the hunt will have to be put on hold again until January.
@TimCastelijns Then why hasn't anyone hired me yet?!?! /tableflip
 
XD
 
@TimCastelijns but how many of those actually well paid?
there's like 300 recurrent open dev positions in my city
but they are shitty salaries for newbies
 
3:54 PM
Going AFK for a few minutes. brb.
 
if the supply is lower than the demand, the salaries will go up
 
Finally! my ORM is functioning well!
 
@TimCastelijns sadly not how world works.
 
also found some weird shit on Jackson, for UTC Dates format, it doesn't parse the middle "T" if it's not wrapped around single quotes
 
weird
 
3:58 PM
I realised when I typed it that it was a bit dreamy
 
:P
 
you're right
 
there's a super big demand, for example, on c# devs in barcelona
like, real shortage
 
@MehdiB. that is universal behavior, because the T needs to be escaped
 
salaries have risen only a 4%
but extra conditions fall
 
3:59 PM
because letters are considered format placeholders, but the T is not
 
companies prefer to directly face the output pipe of university onto their pipeline than increase wages
T is afaik
> 20071103T161805Z, 2007-11-03T16:18:05Z
ISO_8601
 
@TimCastelijns yes, the quotes are to differentiate between params and strings, but since the UTC format on RFC doesn't include quotes, I'd expect jackson to be smart enough to parse it
 
ahhh assumptions. The bane of all developers
 
without me having to manually replace it from a backend response: utcDate = Df.parse (elt.getValue ().asText ().replace ("T", "'T'")).getTime ();
 
why shouldn't it parse T correctly? isn't it meant to represent a separator for time in iso 8601 parsing?
 
4:02 PM
well I have the same in java public static final String DATEFORMAT = "yyyy-MM-dd'T'HH:mm:ss'Z'";
 
been working so long with Moment.JS that i forgot how java dates work tbh
 
Eric - yes, in Java it's supposed to be escaped by being wrapped on single quotes, but if your backend is on something else, nothing forces it to wrap the T on single quotes and it will still be following the RFC specs
 
actually my backend doesn't escape the T and Z and I have not had trouble
 
what json lib do you use?
 
gson retrofit
 
4:07 PM
I guess gson handles that, jackson doesn't...
 
another reason to use long millis instead of a string representation
 
You're right, I've been convinced by it yesterday while working around this one :D
 
I don't do it because I often have to read raw json output and look at the timestamps
 
made also my life easier on my android db stack
 
but I couldn't think of any other reason why not to do it
 
4:13 PM
Faith
 
:D
<3
 
</3
 
I think that image of raghav might be the funniest thing I have seen in this room
 
lmao it's definitely up there
 
4:26 PM
what are the contenders?
 
idk I got nothing. Just regurgitated keystore jokes.
 
I'm partial to:
Oct 31 at 14:50, by AdamMc331
user image
 
you can't vote for your own stuff
 
^^ That is one of my favorites.
My second favorite keystore joke:
Jun 12 at 17:41, by Dave S
Even the power of all 7 dragon balls, cannot resurrect your keystore.
 
And this one:
 
4:29 PM
Who could forget the Ahmad signal though?
Nov 7 '16 at 2:24, by Mauker
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5
 
@TimCastelijns Can't help it if I'm the source of the best content
 
4:42 PM
ah that day in seattle was really cool
it was so hot
also i ate the best ice cream ever
 
4:57 PM
lmao adam
back
@AdamMc331 programming books are meh
gets outdated and internet already has the info you will ever need
@TimCastelijns yup but US doesnt have the engineers to fill that is why immigrants needed
 

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