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fge
10:00 PM
But the fact remains; this analogy only tells part of the story
(aka Louis De Broglie, one of the founder fathers of quantum physics who postulated that if light could be described as both a wave and particle then why not the electron; this turned out later on to be true for not only the electron but all other elementary particles as well. And the generalized "wave function" of all elementary particles was found a little later by Schrödinger)
And all of this happened a little more than 90 years ago
 
I really liked the explanation my physics teacher gave, even though it's probably horribly incorrect
 
fge
And as far as I know, it is still not part of the physics curriculum of high schools -- why?
@Vogel612 I'm curious; can you share?
 
Namely that the interference happens in the fact that the Possibility of light passing one or the other slit is what is generating the wave pattern
 
fge
Mathematically that's true, yes
But I guess that at the time you haven't heard of vector spaces?
 
As soon as you determine the Possibility that 'was' taken, the other one falls away and you loose the interference with itself
 
fge
10:07 PM
Wait, that's the act of measurement
In the double slit experiment, there's no measurement (as far as I understand)
 
My physics curriculum scratched the surface of quantum mechanics and it's already been three years
Actually you can do a measurement by using a polarization filter
And then the interference vanishes
 
fge
And, by the way, it is true that the act of measurement triggers what is called a "collapse of the wave function"
As to the polarization filter, that's true; but it's really recent
It was experimentally done by Serge Haroche (who was granted a Nobel prize for that)
But the experimental apparatus is quite complex
 
Hmmm... 'really recent' Usually doesn't get taught in school....
 
fge
"Really recent" as in "less than 15 years old", let's say ;)
 
Strange concept of really recent when working in our industry...
 
fge
10:10 PM
Haroche had its Noble prize in 2012
 
I learned about the polarization before that
 
fge
But his experiments had been made long before that
 
Are we still on this? What happened to a new room?
 
Now what's long :|
 
Wake me up if there's java talk
 
fge
10:11 PM
Namely, 1996
 
Holy carp... that Experiment is almost as old as I am...
 
fge
Now, that's an extraordinary achievement, but to my eyes not as extraordinary as Alain Aspect's
His experiments proved Bohr right, and Einstein wrong
And that's in 1982
If you are interested, it is an experimental result of Bell's inequalities, dating back 1964
Yes, the same year that the Higgs boson was theoricized
 
Fge it's past midnight and you're philosophying about quantum mechanics and 60 year old experiments and people who are long dead on the chat of a site dedicated to programming...
 
fge
Sorry...
 
No it's finr
 
fge
10:15 PM
But that's not philosophy; those are facts ;)
 
What I wanted to say is... don't eexpect me to be able to follow when you go there....
Maybe if I were really awake I could... probably not..
 
fge
Well, I do have some explanation for that as well ;) But not now
 
@Kylar Wake me up when september ends..
 
okay :)
 
fge
Bell's inequalities, Higg's boson, wave function collapsing, quantum entanglement/decoherence...
 
10:17 PM
@ItachiUchiha you will sleep for a long time then... it's still September of... forgot the year
 
fge
All of these are truly fascinating
 
You know what? ??I like newtonian physics... you don't have to think there...
Anyways... bed....
 
fge
I hated them since very early, because I already knew they were wrong...
 
@Vogel612 I haven't slept for a very long time.
 
fge
When I was a child I heard of Aspect's experiments (too bad for my teachers who didn't even know about them, meh)
 
10:19 PM
I am not sure how will it affect my routine tomorrow :P
 
fge
It won't
But in fact it already does
If Aspect didn't bring a definite proof of Bell's inequalities (that is, there are no "hidden variables" in quantum mechanics, unlike what Einstein believed) then you wouldn't even have heard of quantum computing
Since all the theory and practice of quantum computing is a direct consequence of quantum entanglement
And according to Einstein, entanglement did not exist
Bohr however advocated that it did
(gosh, I must sound very, very old)
 
Are you on drugs?
 
fge
No I'm not
I was referring to the age of the debate between those two; it was a long time before I was born
 
@fge seems like today you are extra charged
 
Caffeine does strange things to people :P
 
fge
10:34 PM
Well, sorry, I just couldn't help it
What I truly don't understand is that such knowledge is not part of the basic scholar education
 
@fge No, I didn't mean to disrespect you
I was just telling
 
fge
When I was a student, that would have been understandable
But in 2015 I'd have imagined that everyone aged 16 or less would be aware of all of this
And it looks like this isn't the case
 
@fge Seems like the knowledge then is not now :( Its getting lost day by day?
 
fge
Define "then"
 
@fge At your time
 
fge
10:38 PM
Well, I didn't even hear about quantum mechanics until after I've had to quit the educational system
 
Ahaan
 
fge
And that was after high school... Which means that in high school I wasn't taught any of it
The only reference I had was my naggling bee in my head telling me "remember Aspect; what is quantum physics anyway?"
 
@fge So you never went to university?
 
fge
I had to quit early
 
11:36 PM
and the room switches to silent mode :P
 
11:48 PM
@ItachiUchiha Fun fact: Caffeine is a natural insecticide.
 
DI for programmers: Coffee
Gets rid of bugs ;D
 
lol perfect xD
 
I am in dire need of sleep
but can't sleep
 

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