@CatPlusPlus to be honest, the part of your behaviour that is observable through that blog post and this discussion seems rather arrogant to me as well
@orourkek It's not about respectability (what the hell is that anyway), it's about having experience with different things, and being able to tell which one of those things is worse than the others.
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, because the people in here, with more PHP experience than you, are really going to value your situational opinions more than their own experiences and efforts?
I know php. I also know js (and node.js) and I like PHP better because... well. I know it better. Productivity goes a long way. I also know many other languages, however I generally choose to code in the one that i'm most productive in. This is the fallacy of PHP, too many people are productive in PHP
however i'm now dabbling with using node.js for a small server in an embedded environment for remote control over a process control system and the I/O based event model helps a lot.
@CatPlusPlus I'd appreciate it if you would leave or settle down. This is considered home for many of the users here, and coming in and bashing them all without being remotely kind is not welcome here.
@CatPlusPlus Please don't include me in 'you people'. I've said nothing this whole time except the remark about a few individuals who work on PHP source.
The PHP community is too much like the Ubuntu community. you will get nay sayers... but guess what.. they probably go home and hide in their closets and PHP the fuck outta that shizznat. but stop being so sensitive... i mean this is the internet after all.
I start every day with "rejoin favourite rooms" which PHP is a part of.
PHP, JS, CSS, and jQuery - (last two because i'm the creator of the rooms) however my day job is C and C++ development (sometimes C#.NET if I am working with a windows client)
I don't like the C++ room. those guys are strange.
> > If you have a look at the top three CMSes, for the websites that use a monitored content management system: Wordpress is first with 54.3%, Joomla is second with 9.2%, and Drupal is third with 6.8%. Three products written in PHP.
> And, coincidentally, three products with an amazing security track record. You should have mentioned phpBB and osCommerce, too.
I like to see how this room responds much in the same way [to a rant] as ours does. I'm thoroughly convinced that the room regulars have 'what it takes' and they don't need to feel addressed.
There a lot of crappy C#, Java, C++ programmers making those languages look bad, just the same.
You can come into out room and bash c++. We'll simply agree that the language has (major) flaws. But it is evolving, has many merits and a niche in which it is hard to beat/replace. Voila :)
no, what makes them constructive is that they are completely valid and rational and directed at exactly the appropriate thing- the arguments put forth, rather than the person proposing them.
@DeadMG actually, the way he puts it, it's not strictly an appeal to authority fallacy, because he's not trying to prove a point but asking a valid question...
now the cat could say, yes I know these programmers but I don't agree with them
@markustharkun Well, I guess that strictly, the question "Do you know who Robert C Martin is?" is valid. But it doesn't exactly refute the point or raise an argument of it's own.