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23:00
does the comparison hold up without xdebug enabled?
Well, all that time saved is I/O on database introspection operations
ah, sweet then
23:26
@tpunt @bwoebi @FlorianMargaine @PaulCrovella I wrote a draft: (draft!) PHP RFC: Warn about invalid strings in arithmetic
feedback?
@Ocramius there's still the time it takes the app to fatal error
I only did -f, not -Rf
meaning only part of the app is nuked
ah, indeed
23:42
So, any thoughts on the RFC?
@Andrea could use mention of comparison operators
@Andrea what about using that only with strict types on?
it would mitigate the BC break
@Andrea open issues needs some fix
@FlorianMargaine oops, will fix
@PaulCrovella it does
@Ocramius I'd rather make strict types completely strict. We should do that for 8
and I think this is fitting even for non-strict mode
That is fine, but then this change is a massive BC break, no?
23:46
oh, it does. i missed that
@Andrea no, that'd be against php spirit ;-)
@Ocramius Not massive, but possibly problematic, due to E_NOTICE/WARNING -> exception conversion
I am fairly sure there are enough idiots depending on this
@Ocramius Stas might find an example in his codebase
lol
@Andrea ah, no, those apps would not do such a conversion anyway
23:47
@Ocramius yeah
oh, and it might be of interest for some people here
in JavaScript, 1 hour ago, by Benjamin Gruenbaum
Oh wow ` $.post("/users/new-mobile-ui", fkey({ value: true }))` . On mobile - new experimental mobile chat interface. http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4408355#4408355
(execute the snippet on desktop, then go on so chat with your mobile)
it notably has stars and reply arrows
@FlorianMargaine ooh
Oh, this is sexy
@FlorianMargaine I expect this'll be better received than their new "developer story" thing
23:53
At least seems usable now. The previous version was basically "yeah, on mobile I'm just gonna lurk"
@Ocramius mhm, the lack of stars or direct replies sucked
well, I think my RFC is ready
should I publish it?
go for it
and best of luck
I still think it should be a strict types only thing, but heh, give it a shot :P
Microsoft, STAHP
@Ocramius I love the BBC's choice of image

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