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Paul Crovella
23:00
does the comparison hold up without xdebug enabled?
Ocramius
Well, all that time saved is I/O on database introspection operations
Paul Crovella
ah, sweet then
Andrea
23:26
@tpunt @bwoebi @FlorianMargaine @PaulCrovella I wrote a draft:
(draft!) PHP RFC: Warn about invalid strings in arithmetic
feedback?
ircmaxell
@Ocramius there's still the time it takes the app to fatal error
Ocramius
Hm?
ircmaxell
I only did -f, not -Rf
meaning only part of the app is nuked
Ocramius
ah, indeed
Andrea
23:42
So, any thoughts on the RFC?
Paul Crovella
@Andrea could use mention of comparison operators
Ocramius
@Andrea what about using that only with strict types on?
it would mitigate the BC break
Florian Margaine
@Andrea open issues needs some fix
Andrea
@FlorianMargaine oops, will fix
@PaulCrovella it does
@Ocramius I'd rather make strict types completely strict. We should do that for 8
and I think this is fitting even for non-strict mode
Ocramius
That is fine, but then this change is a massive BC break, no?
Paul Crovella
23:46
oh, it does. i missed that
Florian Margaine
@Andrea no, that'd be against php spirit ;-)
Andrea
@Ocramius Not massive, but possibly problematic, due to E_NOTICE/WARNING -> exception conversion
Ocramius
I am fairly sure there are enough idiots depending on this
Florian Margaine
@Ocramius Stas might find an example in his codebase
Ocramius
lol
@Andrea ah, no, those apps would not do such a conversion anyway
Andrea
23:47
@Ocramius yeah
Florian Margaine
oh, and it might be of interest for some people here
in JavaScript,
1 hour ago
, by
Benjamin Gruenbaum
Oh wow ` $.post("/users/new-mobile-ui", fkey({ value: true }))` . On mobile - new experimental mobile chat interface. http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4408355#4408355
Ocramius
you gotta be stupid to have
i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b582/DrugmanRx/…
together with
i.imgur.com/4HCQHWk.gif
Florian Margaine
(execute the snippet on desktop, then go on so chat with your mobile)
it notably has stars and reply arrows
Andrea
@FlorianMargaine ooh
Oh, this is
sexy
Paul Crovella
@FlorianMargaine I expect this'll be better received than their new "developer story" thing
Andrea
23:53
Ocramius
At least seems usable now. The previous version was basically "yeah, on mobile I'm just gonna lurk"
Andrea
@Ocramius mhm, the lack of stars or direct replies sucked
well, I think my RFC is ready
should I publish it?
Paul Crovella
go for it
and best of luck
Ocramius
I still think it should be a strict types only thing, but heh, give it a shot :P
bbc.com/news/technology-35251484
Microsoft, STAHP
Andrea
@Ocramius I love the BBC's choice of image
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