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@Crowz cat plus plus is a real bi-atch and only wants discusson of C++
THE CAT isn't the boss of me
New guy, have you ever done a decent amount of self-evaluation?
@Crowz and his master is senior r fernndes
@user1690130 While the former is true, the latter is not.
I assure you that the Cat loves discussing C++.
00:01
@Rapptz yes, have you?
in fact, he can't think of any better way to spend his time.
and just for fun, he likes to implement C++.
@DeadMG that is what said
It's funny when you talk to people that aren't there
@user1690130 I'm pretty sure I'm self-aware.
@DeadMG meow meow only wants us to discuss c++
@Rapptz i'm happy for you
00:02
because C++ is his favourite language.
Who doesn't love C++?
@Rapptz Torvalds.
I've been trying to write a simple list in C++ for a while and it's pissing me off
But honestly, what's up with the new guy?
@EtiennedeMartel are you in french canada? j'adore french canada
00:04
Also who the hell is that guy
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^this one?
I already have him on ignore list for some reason
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1690130?
@Ell yes me
Am I the new guy?
00:05
@Crowz i am
Nah. 1690130.
Can I be the new guy?
I think he's < 16
@Rapptz and i like taylor swift
ignoring now
00:06
I mean I can see why but I don't remember when or why exactly
@DeadMG i was just JOKING
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@user1690130 where are you from?
@CatPlusPlus You fell in love with C++ because you think it's the best thing ever.
@Ell california ?
00:08
Oh god I'm in hell
heh
can I join this hell?
we can all rejoice in hell
@TonyTheLion WHY?
oh, plonk
Also did you know there's going to be Star Wars Ep 7
00:10
There's lots of cats in this room.
BUT ONLY ONE CROW
yes, I had heard
@Crowz you're in danger
Directed by JJ "lens flare" Abrams
... caw ._.
Everything in JJ Abrams films looks shiny
00:11
@doug65536 hey!
@user1690130 hi
Though it might mean it will have scenes other than "people sitting on a couch in front of green screen", "people walking short distance and then stopping in front of green screen" and "clusterfuck of CG with people somewhere in there possibly in front of green screen"
Which is always a nice touch
@doug65536 watching the u.s. superbowl?
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I love tim and Eric for their greenscreen goodness
@user1690130 no
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00:13
Some people just don't get their humor though and it makes m sad
@CatPlusPlus Pretty much everyone in the history of ever has.
@doug65536 what are you up to?
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I love the 80s sound
that was weird...
@Ell is that an mtv special?
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00:21
Nay
Can computer vision yet recognize any items/things?
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Yeah
you can teach asimo new objects IIRC
IIRC? What's that mean?
@CatPlusPlus Well, you know what, I'm sure it can't be worse than the prequel trilogy.
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If I remember correctly
@EtiennedeMartel It can, but they might not have skills required for that.
@EtiennedeMartel I'm pretty sure it will be better, question is how much better
@sehe playing with bottles
tsk tsk
Lens flares aside Star Trek wasn't that bad vOv
I'm sure it will be worth illegally downloading.
00:24
They fucked the Star Trek cannon in the ass
You mean ~buying DVD~
but as a sci-fi movie it was good
@Borgleader Eh, so what?
Cinemas are dead to me ever since they introduced that 3D shit
As a movie it was very sloppy.
00:25
@DeadMG I've been watching Star Trek since I can remember, I've become quite attached to the cannon.
What cannon?
I thought Star Trek did not take place in the 17th century.
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3d does suck tbh
@Borgleader Canon needs rebuilding regularly, just like, say, languages, or computers.
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It's not worth the irritating glasses
00:26
@CatPlusPlus it scares when you use the word dead like that. especilly in movies after aurora, colorao shootng. please take it back
@CatPlusPlus They've been dead to me ever since you had to attend in person.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Canon as in established lore, official storyline.
We already know you have no friends
Someday I'll have no friends
@CatPlusPlus who has zero friends?
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00:28
Wtf I thought I was having a heart at attack just a second ago
@Ell why?
Stop smoking this shit
@CatPlusPlus not the meow meow! meow meow is the dope in bayonne with his guido frends
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My heart rate just picked up to something ridiculous for about 10 seconds
@Ell arythmya or wtv how you spell it
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00:29
Like 140 or something, Just out of the blue
@Ell that happens to me all the time
And that kids is why you don't do drugs
3
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I don't do drugs :D
sostraightedge
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00:30
I don't even remember the last time I had paracetamol
Anyway, as for the Star Trek movie, I wouldve found it better if Spock wasnt banging Uhura. I mean she's hot, but her sexy hands should have stayed off mr pointy ears.
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@Ell You do.
I would have found it better if I didn't have to pretend many things made sense.
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Lounge<C++> is a drug.
@R.MartinhoFernandes lul such as?
00:31
@Ell Because you took so much, you druggie
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haha
user142019
Paracetamol sucks.
@Borgleader I don't remember a lot now, but I found the way Kirk gets to captain the ship incredibly nonsensical.
user142019
Ibuprofen works much better.
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And isn't as bitter.
00:33
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh yeah, that was bullshit.
Are you chewing on those pills or what
ready for the evil evil word?
user142019
No you swallow them.
to induce ulcer?
PERL!
user142019
You don't chew Ibuprofen pills. You swallow them entirely.
00:33
I know what you do with them, I'm wondering where you get the bitter part from
user142019
Dissolve in water?
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Don't they target different things?
user142019
They both target pain. :P
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you swallow pills whole newb
@Ell Yeah, paracetamol is for x86, ibuprofen is for ARM.
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00:34
Haha different types I mean
Hehe good one
That was terrible
Yeah, it was.
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I liked it
You're high
00:35
It was awful
user142019
Your pun is bad and you should feel bad.
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isPunBad = const True
meow meow = enzo
hm, what's new
An operator
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00:38
A bad operator.
Too obvious
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It's magic!
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In not high
Smooth operator
that's sad, eh
00:40
@Ell You're not helping your case
@CatPlusPlus is sexy and he knows it
@R.MartinhoFernandes: At the risk of being overly attached reader, did I miss this week's blog post?
No, you did not.
Would anyone recommend any specific type of C++ code style?
Writing is tiring.
00:42
@Nican Yes, mine :P
I haven't been in the mood for it this weekend.
@Nican As long as you're consistent, who cares?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Alright just making sure I didn't miss it.
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Imma sleep
Night guys
@Borgleader do I need to access your head to know what it is?
00:42
Not Google Style
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case ellState of
    High -> generateRandomBullshit
    _    -> error "unreachable code reached"
I'm playing a minimal DF embark. Unskilled dwarves, with nothing but one axe and one pick.
@CatPlusPlus what bout gangum style?
@Nican I've been told I use the Google style.
@CatPlusPlus That is what I expecting to hear.
00:43
Yeah, don't do that
@CatPlusPlus hey, sexy @CatPlusPlus
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Hehe goodnight @zoidberg
I am working on a group project for a class, trying to keep code consistent between everyone.
@Nican source control system
Yes, we are using git.
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00:46
Dropbox.
Zoidberg's insane FYI
@CatPlusPlus Srsly though, what don't you like about Google style? I'm curious.
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s/insane/trolling/
We've been through this
@Zoidberg Perfect! It even handle conflicts for us by creating 2 files.
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00:46
I'd never do anything without version control.

Why Google style guide sucks, roughly.

Apr 22 '12 at 18:22, 26 minutes total – 150 messages, 11 users, 1 star

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user142019
Some fools put Git repos in Dropbox and are surprised they get corrupted.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That pretty much sums up Google Closure Library code standards too.
Google style guide sums up a style for Google library? Inconceivable
Wait you're talking pointers and setters and whatnot, that's not what I meant. I was talking more about layout and mSomeMember; vs someMember_;
00:48
I was wondering on the trying to find a application . I know there's plenty but the one that splits a montior into two physical monitors
@FredMcgiff It's called an axe.
Dammit, I was about to say that.
Awful minds think alike.
(I just hate puns)
so if you go to screen resolution you can extend to that monitor but it's a virtual one
catalyst control center
you can create a grid to snap applications, but is there an application that can actually trick Windows that there's actually two monitors
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00:52
Why'd you need it.
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Just use xmonad and problem solved.
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Also time to sleep.
virtualbox can make multimonitor exist to the virtualized OS
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Oh Wine for Android, great. Combining two terrible platforms.
@doug65536 That's not what he wants, he wants his single monitor to act like 2
00:55
it a keeps an application window on top
for testing or something? or for actually having two screens without having two screens? I'm confused
Also @FredMcgiff, there's a handy shortcut for making 2 windows be side by side. In one press Windows+Left-arrow, in the other press Windows+Right-arrow
. I like to keep a virtual machine have it on its own monitor
If you need more than that well gl
I think the "other" multimonitor you want is Alt+Tab or something
virtualbox lets you crank the monitor count all the way up to 64
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01:11
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lol
@Zoidberg y are you not asleep yet?
user142019
Because I'm still awake?
20 mins ago, by Zoidberg
Also time to sleep.
k so what the fuck
01:18
@Zoidberg lol
I don't remember if I got this from here, but it's a good talk
what do I have to include to use std::cerr?
o.O iostream doesn't do it it seems.
should be iostream
oh never mind wrong file.
Something's borked.
@Rapptz whistles
is ostream small
I don't want to include the entire iostream just to use 1 line of std::cerr thinking about it now
01:24
std::cerr is in no other header, AFAIK.
fuck
I want modules so bad :(
@Rapptz what difference does it make?
@doug65536 is that hillay clinton joke?
it matters because headers suck really hardcore
I'm going to assume modules will be nice.
and yeah they do
01:26
@Rapptz Honestly? They're amazingly half-arsed.
if it could be like python's import system
I'll never complain ever
but that's too idealistic for C++ isn't it
@user1690130 no
@Rapptz What about it?
@doug65536 OH, that is her famous line these days
@R.MartinhoFernandes from header import function
01:27
WE have dead americans . . . who cares if it was someone just going for a walk . . . what difference does it make
@Rapptz Last proposal I checked it was just import std;.
@Rapptz What if you import something that imports something else, that ends up importing half the header module anyway.
@Rapptz because I want to have to individually declare every function
@doug65536 No, if you don't want to do that you can do import iostream
but you can selectively import too
01:28
Though the import line itself would not bring anything but an index.
man I want a system like that so bad
I'd even write it myself if I knew how
When you use a function then the compiler goes and grabs the data from the module.
@doug65536 For example, if I just wanted to use std::cerr, rather than including everything I could do from iostream import std.cerr or something
and if I wanted to include the entire thing I'd do import iostream
that is my idealistic system.
@Rapptz that's what namespaces are for. why do you care if more stuff got put into the std symbol table
@doug65536 No, it's not.
01:31
it's not a real issue. what's wrong with #include <iostream> and how would it be better if I could micro-manage the std namespace
@doug65536 No, you'll still compile the rest of the shit
You care because you get too much, and it hurts compilation times.
he wants to import only what hes going to use and not compile the rest
yeah, exactly.
compile times and headers are a fucking bitch
that's why people say (in python) not to do from blah import *
01:32
that's what precompiled headers are for. I turn that garbage off immediately
@Borgleader python :)
you dont compile but you get all the shit in your namespace
@doug65536 It is a real issue. It's not about micro-managing anything (with the current proposal you would just do import std;). It is about not wasting the compiler's time on nonsense.
@doug65536 Again, no
It helps but it doesnt solve the issue
yeah? you're blocked by compile performance due to #include?
01:33
have you ever written a header-only library?
how can you stand the compilation times, they're awful
It was one massive file for a while, until that got too big, and I had to break it up
was a massive pain
what is the downside to the proposal anyway?
@Rapptz What are you working on?
01:35
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A: C++1y Modules and the C++ ABI

Nicol BolasPre-compiled headers (PCH) are special files that certain compilers can generate for a .cpp file. What they are is exactly that: pre-compiled source code. They are source code that has been fed through the compiler and built into a compiler-dependent format. PCHs are commonly used to speed up co...

Core I7 990x Extreme + 24GB of RAM + 10k RPM HD
make -j == win
of course you have no problem
one of the fastest CPUs with a harddrive with more RPMs
yeah because everyone has an i7 and 24 GB of RAM.
That's not the point either.
but even on a more modest machine, parallel compiles will greatly accelerate the build
01:36
It will still make it suck.
Ugh... I feel like coding something, but I have no idea what would be interesting / reasonably sized project.
damnit...
@Borgleader hacking software and things
@Rapptz You delinquant!
@Borgleader Implement collation for ogonek! whistles
I'm trying to port something from python to C++ lol
01:39
lol what's collation?
=.=;
and seeing all these import statements made me sad
hence the rant
haven't coded in python in a while :(
lol my stupid question got 10 stars
@Borgleader Ordering.
I'm going to remove std::cerr I guess
it isn't worth including iostream
I'll take a look but I have a feeling I'll get a massive dose of "I'm way too dumb for this"
01:42
The algorithm boils down to 1) look up a code point in a table, fetching a number 2) compare said numbers. And it involves no deferred-evaluation iterators, which makes it probably the less painful bit of it all.
err wheres the dl as zip button
I need a good movie. Suggestions?
Just watch porn
Easier to look for
lol
porn
is lame.
@R.MartinhoFernandes So how do I compile this? Since no VS solution
01:48
lmao
@Crowz doesn't that depend on the porn in question? e.g., in most countries "porn" also covers old times' "erotica"
ogonek on VS is non existent I think.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf just seems silly to me and kinda boring
VS isn't cool enough for this.
01:49
I have mingw somewhere
use the nuwen distro
I just need to know what the command is
@Crowz well, same as museums. and art galleries. and such. :-)
it's header only
It's in the README.
@Rapptz Not the data.
01:49
well except the dictionary
4chan with bootstrap hah
Huh, says ucd_data.c++ doesnt exist, but it does
oh nvm
age.g.inl
01:56
@Borgleader It's in the README :(
@Crowz I saw that on reddit like 3 weeks ago
Still funny
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah I realized I have to dl it
3
A: how to read adjacent strings

dreamlaxHere's my novice-C++ approach (I'm only a beginner at C++). I'm sure a more experienced C++ developer will come up with something better :-) #include <fstream> #include <iostream> #include <string> int main() { std::ifstream data ("data.txt"); std::string lastWord,...

I don't want to put generated data in the repo.
01:57
lol I'm upvoting for one-upping the OP.
I'm assuming it's ucd_c++.zip?
Trunk may not work with the existing zips, though. (the 0.4.1 tag does work, but I think I changed something)

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