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> denoting stereotypes of boldness and strength commonly attributed to ancient northern European peoples, such as the Vikings and Goths
Oh well.
call me Bärtek from now on.
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@thecoshman i'm serious!
 
@Xeo Fortunately for me I've already read the whole site repeatedly.
But yeah that one's pretty good.
> Othèr űnnæcessåry diácrîtiçal mârks, Faцx Cyяillic, and gratuitøus slashed ø's alsø shów up occâsioñally in mûsic, althøugh theý're Иot as pøpular or icônic of metäl as the ümläüt
 
The London Beer Flood happened on 17 October 1814 in the parish of St. Giles, London, England. At the Meux and Company Brewery on Tottenham Court Road, a huge vat containing over of beer ruptured, causing other vats in the same building to succumb in a domino effect. As a result, more than of beer burst out and gushed into the streets. The wave of beer destroyed two homes and crumbled the wall of the Tavistock Arms Pub, trapping teenage employee Eleanor Cooper under the rubble. History The brewery was among the poor houses and tenements of the St Giles Rookery, where whole families liv...
Paradise for Etienne.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes off topic
 
3:10 PM
I don't see an issue about it though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, why are numbers stripped from the text? LaTeX?
 
@tom_mai78101 i don't either, but senor r likes to flag postings that are off topic
 
@KonradRudolph Dunno.
 
Answering myself: no, conversion macro
> {{convert|135000|impgal|l}}
 
@user1690130 WAT?
@user1690130 I don't know if I should laugh or ...
 
Xeo
3:15 PM
@user1690130 I don't think you decide whether something is off-topic or not.
 
You should flag him away.
 
what is going on here?
 
I like the guy, he's funny.
 
no, he's a troll
 
bin him then.
 
3:16 PM
@TonyTheLion what's thta?
 
tom_mai78101 is now backing away from the room.
 
I've plonked him
 
oh yeah, he is a troll
maybe that's Nolwenn sockpuppet?
 
only @sbi can insult the Robot
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm sure it's not.
 
3:17 PM
@TonyTheLion Who?
 
and as a feline, I can insult the @Cat
@Borgleader some userxxxxx
 
user50049
@user1690130 I think you've worn out your welcome here. Perhaps another room might interest you?
 
@TonyTheLion Oh, I ignored him like yesterday
 
oh look an admin comes to the rescue
 
Good news, to me! I have successfully created a working Bluetooth connection. All is good, for 2.41 seconds. :D
 
3:17 PM
@Borgleader good job
@tom_mai78101 gratz
 
Xeo
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Q: C++ conditional function calling with type traits

gexicideSuppose I have a class template template <typename T> class X Is it somehow possible to use type traits or a similar technique to call a (static) method of T but only if the type T declares such method, e.g. something like this: template <typename T> class X { static void foo()...

Anyone want easy rep?
 
@TimPost I imagined a sheriff pointing a gun on the stranger, like in Django.
 
@TonyTheLion That's why I was confused as to who you were talking about.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Wait, isn't it Rango?
 
Xeo
3:19 PM
@BartekBanachewicz In Django, the "stranger" shot the sheriff down, though. :P
 
Django is a webframework
and a movie
 
@Xeo implementation details.
 
Xeo
lawl
 
@TonyTheLion and a Gypsy name
 
3:19 PM
And I once misheard it as Jango, the internet radio. That was a nice conversation.
 
a cowboy movie, made by Dreamworks CGI productions.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Heh
 
We should write a C++ compiler in Haskell
because Haskell FTW
 
Why not haskell compiler in haskell?
 
Tomorrow, I'm going to increase the length of my Bluetooth connections. Good day, y'all.
 
3:21 PM
@BartekBanachewicz because we want to be different?
 
@BartekBanachewicz You know what would really aid adoption? Change your nick name. Everyone here relies on auto completion
@tom_mai78101 Viagra doesn't cut it. It's for penile, as opposed to dental extensions
 
@sehe Well, I like my name as it is. I'm just particularly fond of "call me X from now on" statement
 
<facepalm> I saw that coming
 
@BartekBanachewicz The 90s called. They want their running gag back
@BartekBanachewicz Liar
 
3:23 PM
@sehe this is like the best answer I've ever got in my life
 
@sehe didn't dodge fast enough.
 
still dodging
Did you mean 'duck'?
 
@ScottW I've got more to add.
 
@sehe I was born in the 90s, mind you
 
@Jeffrey :)
 
3:24 PM
@sehe Now I saw Mooing Duck coming.
 
On the count of 3... 2... 1...
Nope. Wrong again
 
potato().
 
couch().
 
What a terrible times require me to use PROLOG to actually defend myself in conversation.
 
What a terrible time when one has to defend oneself.
In a conversation no less.
 
3:27 PM
@thecoshman There's one section about that, the rest of it is completely compiler-independent and there's a big marker on that page saying that it needs work.
 
Duh, we are in the state of constant war with Java developers, sergeant!
 
"We" - speak for yourself. Also, that's no reason to be using PROLOG
 
Fun fact : I don't change colour temperature of the screen at work, because it helps me keep awake.
 
Fun fact: in 1979 was the first time a human was killed by a robot.
 
@sehe saying "we" I hoped it to sound a little more paranoid, like in Beautiful Mind
@R.MartinhoFernandes by robot you mean an android?
 
3:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes O rly?
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, I mean robot. What else would "robot" mean?
 
A robot is a mechanical or virtual artificial agent, usually an electro-mechanical machine that is guided by a computer program or electronic circuitry. Robots can be autonomous, semi-autonomous or remotely controlled and range from humanoids such as ASIMO and TOPIO to Nano robots, 'swarm' robots, and industrial robots. By mimicking a lifelike appearance or automating movements, a robot may convey a sense of intelligence or thought of its own. The branch of technology that deals with robots is called robotics. Machinery was initially used for repetitive functions, such as lifting wa...
^ linked to "ancient beginnings"
 
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
> A robot is a mechanical or virtual artificial agent, usually an electro-mechanical machine that is guided by a computer program or electronic circuitry.
 
That I find it hard to believe there were no deaths earlier, basing on the facts that robot exist for... quite a long time.
 
3:31 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes did you get my email stating where I'm staying next weekend?
 
@BartekBanachewicz "War" gives the impression that they might stand a chance of winning. If we were to fight with Java users, it would be roughly equivalent to a professional boxer (who also holds black belts in Tae Kwon Do and Jiu Jitsu) threatening 6 year old children for their lunch money.
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@BartekBanachewicz That's like saying "Sir, we had to destroy earth because the enemy was preparing chemical weapons"
 
@JerryCoffin They don't fight fair, tho. A 6 year old with a gun is still dangerous. To itself, even.
 
3:33 PM
It's ridiculous how often I name a property "Owner" these days.
I'm starting to think I might be secretly a slaver.
 
And I strongly believe Java devs hurt themselves constantly
 
to develop Java you have to have masochistic tendencies
 
@TonyTheLion or be forced to by society
 
no one without these exposes themselves to such awful tripe
 
@DeadMG if it's all the same to you, I am going to keep insisting you are painfully biased :P
 
3:34 PM
dafuq is going on in the C# room
@thecoshman what makes you think that? :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz They know that in Africa.
 
@TonyTheLion did someone let them have flags again?
 
@thecoshman flag wars, yes
 
@TonyTheLion Looks like about the usual.
 
@thecoshman Sure, just don't claim that my tutorials are biased, cause the vast, vast majority of them are perfectly fine.
 
3:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Well, it was the first recorded one, at least.
 
@TonyTheLion just invalidated/unsured them
 
if it makes you feel better, I'll take down that debugger page.
 
@sehe me too
 
@TonyTheLion what? since when do you need reasoning behind unfounded opinions?
 
3:35 PM
@thecoshman you don't
 
@DeadMG I'll have to read over them :P for now I shall take your word
 
Alert! Angry chauvinist in the C# room!
 
@sehe Always validate them. Being reminded of such inferior languages is offensive in itself, so all flags are valid.
 
@DeadMG what? This just in: Peer Pressure More Restricting Than DCMA, practitioners say
 
3:36 PM
@EtiennedeMartel alert, zero fucks given in the lounge
 
@JerryCoffin ahahahah
 
@JerryCoffin It was about feminimism. C# can stay
 
@DeadMG it's up to you. I would say a good bias tutorial is better then a shit one
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: We don't care, go away. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [go-away] [no-helpdesk]
 
@sehe What? The page in question is biased and I know it.
 
3:37 PM
@JerryCoffin In all inferior languages, C# is the only one you can code in and keep at least a bit of sanity
 
I just object to the rest of them being tarred by association
 
@DeadMG if you're biased and you know it clap your hands
~
 
@BartekBanachewicz Perhaps -- but being reminded of its existence is still offensive.
 
slow clap
 
true that
 
3:37 PM
@DeadMG So what? I hope your entire tutorial is biased.
@DeadMG That's a bit of a reason. However, you could just showcase gdb itegration with valgrind on debian instead :)
 
@sehe It's biased in favour of C++ :P
 
@DeadMG At the very least. And a particular brand of it too, I hope. The cool shizzle. Not the nonsense
 
I wonder how you could make a real world substance like mine crafts redstone
 
@DeadMG Yeah, tarring without feathering is just silly.
 
I feel terrible right now. A few months ago a random approached me and asked for "how to start programming?" I've shown him online javascript courses.
 
3:40 PM
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz you cruel man
 
They were interactive!
 
@DeadMG guilt by association is the best kind of guilt...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes tarring with -xkcd is the exception
 
@BartekBanachewicz and?
 
3:41 PM
@thecoshman I know, I'm a terrible person. That's what it says: a terrible person
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Bartek is a terrible person. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [go-away] [no-helpdesk]
 
@BartekBanachewicz Just give him a prolog book to compensate
 
@sehe You're channeling some female French roach there.
 
Roach Approach.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sorry, but it is taking a long time for your profile description to update, then. Perhaps you could retry the edit?
 
3:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz this :P
 
too many people have permission to change the room topic. Either reduce that number, or add me to the list
 
Wowzer. I didn't see that coming
 
@thecoshman We already had a talk about this.
 
@thecoshman lol
 
Oh no. Don't laugh. You're making me consider un-plonking a pirate
 
3:44 PM
@sehe done.
 
@sehe oh you plonked him?
 
Xeo
I just noticed, I'm pretty close to 50k rep. I should've taken the easy rep question I posted earlier.
 
Good thing there is now an option to temporarily show posts. Good thinking.
 
@sehe that one was nice.
 
@Xeo no one in this room answered it
 
3:45 PM
@EtiennedeMartel had we?
 
Xeo
Yeah, but other people did.
 
Odder people?
Implausible
 
@Xeo I actually didn't feel competent :(
 
I suck
and in other news, I don't know the difference between tag dispatching and SFINAE
 
@BartekBanachewicz Feelings are deceptive
 
3:46 PM
they look like essentially the same...
@sehe true.
 
I don't really care the I was plonked by @sehe... I just want to know what it was for... I recall there being some sort of thing... a hubbub you might say
 
@TonyTheLion Overload sets and preventing ambiguity. When did the robot recently drive the point home? Yesterday, I believe... Hmmm.
 
@sehe I missed that
anyways, I can pester him about it over the weekend
 
I love you guys
 
mwuahahahahah
@Crowz the love is not mutual
 
3:47 PM
@TonyTheLion Tag dispatching requires explicit setup by all using types, and SFINAE doesn't, but tag dispatching is way simpler.
 
we are not loving, at most we'll hate you :P
 
@Crowz lōve FTFY
 
@Crowz We know.
 
2 mins ago, by sehe
@BartekBanachewicz Feelings are deceptive
 
@DeadMG ah right
 
3:48 PM
@sehe I still don't know what you meant by that one
 
@TonyTheLion Sure it is. He loves me, and I love me.
 
@JerryCoffin I know, I was being a dick
 
@TonyTheLion never!
how could anyone in the Lounge possibly be a dick to another?
 
And so, my day is as productive as looking at the download bar. /cc @Robot.
 
that shit's just bananas
 
3:50 PM
🍌🍌
 
just for your information, I had a banana as part of my lunch.
 
Just on time.
 
@DeadMG quite easily
I can even be a dick to people IRL
 
@DeadMG None of us would ever do such a thing. No chance at all. We'd especially never be sarcastic.
 
@TonyTheLion you are a master dick
 
3:51 PM
lol
 
@JerryCoffin What even is sarcasm, anyway?
 
@DeadMG still not feeling well?
 
@DeadMG It doesn't matter, because we'd never do it anyway.
 
alrighty then
I shall now retreat to purchase some choccy safe in the knowledge that nobody, ever, in the Lounge would be sarcastic or a dick to anyone else.
 
@DeadMG sure thing tubby
... possibly a step too far
how thick is you fat dead?
 
Xeo
3:53 PM
Y'know, I wonder if @JerryCoffin posts so few things because he's thinking of witty messages all the time.
 
> So far, only python and java are planned to be supported (with some exceptions). If we can add a language, it will be C++.
GTFO.
I ain't coding no python.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed.
 
@Xeo Nothing nearly so clever as that. I post so little because I'm lazy.
 
Xeo
3:55 PM
@TonyTheLion lol
 
i don't know where he pulls these from
 
Xeo
Reddit, likely.
 
@TonyTheLion Two wrongs don't make a right -- but three lefts can.
 
yes, Reddit
 
@JerryCoffin depends
 
3:55 PM
@JerryCoffin no always true
 
On a globe, a single left may be enough
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, that's a weird one. Usually they go with C++/Java/Python.
 
@thecoshman Happier now?
 
@JerryCoffin imagine a Calabi-Yau shape...
 
you see, in the rest of the world, our roads have bends
@JerryCoffin not really
 
3:56 PM
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz IRTA "Kabeljau"
 
@Xeo Oh you.
 
@EtiennedeMartel will they finish that site at some stage?
 
@thecoshman That is different. Here we call them curves.
 
@sehe wtf?
 
@Xeo what's a Kabeljau? Because I was thinking exactly what sehe posted /cc @thecoshman
 
@JerryCoffin oh you poor broken fools
 
seriously?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz It's the German name for codfish. :)
 
@TonyTheLion it's for the spys to hold onto as they chase bad guys along the train
 
3:59 PM
@thecoshman Probably not. The CS Games are run by students, after all, with some support from a "permanent council", which is made of people who all have better things to do.
 
@Xeo I hope the german version still has only 3 dimensions
 
@Xeo is 'codfish' something special, or just a fish of the cod species?
 
So it always seem like it's held together with duct tape.
 
@TonyTheLion There was this one guy that was trying to show to investors how this brand of glass was unbreakable. He hurled himself against the glass wall of the 24th floor. The glass did not break, but got loose from the frame and he fell to his death.
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3:59 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oooh, it's bull shit, why didn't you say
@TonyTheLion I feel ya buddy
 
@thecoshman Still, as I've said before, it's the funniest programing related sausage fest this side of the Atlantic.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Big risks, big rewards. He died a rich man.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes omg...
 
Garry Hoy (1955 – 9 July 1993) was a lawyer for the law firm of Holden Day Wilson in Toronto. He is best known for the circumstances of his death; in an attempt to prove to a group of his partners at the firm that the glass in the Toronto-Dominion Centre was unbreakable, he threw himself through a glass wall on the 24th story and fell to his death after the window frame gave way. He had apparently performed this stunt many times in the past, having previously bounced harmlessly off the glass. The event occurred in a small boardroom adjacent to a boardroom where a reception was being held fo...
 
4:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...but it was completely successful -- even after falling 24 stories with a man falling on top, the glass hadn't broken!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes jeez
 
Got a Darwin Award for it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I saw that :)
 
Omg. I wouldn't imagine that the bearings of the window would give away sooner than the glass itself.
 
@wilx The glass was unbreakable!
 
@TonyTheLion Badass.
 
Can't look at the picture. Our corporate fw does not let it through.
 
@wilx a bunch of zombies and a goat :D
 
@TonyTheLion that guys doesn't have a drink...
 
lol
OMG I need a place like this...
 
4:08 PM
@wilx likewise.
 
let go of all the rage
 
@TonyTheLion a shop?
 
@TonyTheLion you have targets cow workers you can talk to right?
 
1 stop rage
@thecoshman meh, talking to a wall gets me more then talking to them
 
4:10 PM
God. Don't ever do threading if you try to judge from observation like this. Try running on SMP, a quadcore, try running higher priority, lower. Try random sleeps. Try actively manipulating thread affinitiy. Try a 32bit CLR. Or 64bit. Try using the mono VM. Try running without the debugger. Try actively detecting races, instead hoping to see the ill effects (you know, undefined behaviour is rather hard to disprove. While it might look okay, it would still be undeterministic) — sehe 18 secs ago
 
@TonyTheLion whisper whisper whisper kill them all whisper whisper whisper
 
@TonyTheLion why not? In many cultures, parties aren't parties until a cow or at least a goat is received as a gift
 
unfortunately some of my friends have been the target of my anger, which really isn't caused by them, but by this terrible job of mine
@sehe lol
 
My sister has gotten a cow, pigs, a goat, and various other cattle. Most of which has been consumed by now (the flip side of that tradition: at said parties, you're supposed to serve meal for the entire community; that'd be the whole village if you're lucky)
 
I think I'll be leaving now.
 
4:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes bye!
 
I'll leave you with a freak plane crash.
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The 2010 Bandundu Filair Let L-410 crash occurred on August 25, 2010, after a Filair aircraft crashed on approach to Bandundu Airport in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, killing 20 people. Aircraft The aircraft involved was a 1991-built Let L-410 Turbolet, registered 9Q-CCN, with construction number 912608. It normally carries up to 19 passengers. The aircraft involved was previously registered ES-LLB, and was operated by Airest, an Estonian airline, until 2007, and was stored until Filair bought it in 2009. Accident The aircraft was operating a passenger flight from N'Dolo Airport,...
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I'll follow you shortly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol, 20 dead due to crocodile escaping on the plane.
 
"Ich folge dir gleichfalls
Mit freudigen schritten"
 
Also, "The crocodile reportedly survived the crash but was killed by a blow from a machete."
 
Plane crashes, 20 dead, 1 human survivor, 1 crocodile survivor.
 
@ShotgunNinja I didn't know machetes could blow
 
Only in Africa.
 
@EtiennedeMartel hardly
 
Somewhat related
 
4:17 PM
@CatPlusPlus s/Somewhat/Eerily/
 
Xeo
@sehe "gleichfalls"?
 
any hoops, time to head home for me
see ya'll
 
have phun
 
oh, not quite :P
still a bit too earlier to wait around for bus
 
@Xeo Archaic. You know, it's from Evanglie nach Mattheus IIRC
 
4:21 PM
urgh busses
 
@Xeo I read that as "genitals".
 
ok then... I think I'm good to wait around for the bus now
See y'all, for real this time
 
@Xeo Anyways, just follow that link for barbarians
 
Xeo
@sehe Nah, I'll follow my chef who's leaving right now.. :P
 
4:25 PM
:)
Looks like HDD prices are dropping again: 3TB disk for 136 EUR azerty.nl/0-857-531109/…
 
@TonyTheLion Oh noes. You actually took that picture yourself, I suppose
 
what makes you think that?
 
@TonyTheLion I just got a discount on my tea because the girl who works there likes me
 
My wicked imagination, what else
 
4:29 PM
oh nice
 
Mathematics question:
How would you recreate the up and down movement of walking with a video game camera?
 
user784668
@Crowz It's four.
 
move the camera up and down
ie, incr/decr the y axis on the camera
is the simplest way I can think of
else if you want a more smooth thing, you'll need to work on some wave pattern that represents your movement and then apply that to the y axis
I'm guessing
 
I missed that. That's not entirely true by the way. CLR and C# are versioned independently: stackoverflow.com/a/2147/85371sehe 2 mins ago
Damn. C# pedants missing the point, as I was being blind
 
funny
long though
 
4:41 PM
Fucking windows 8 man
"hey... hey we're gonna restart your computer" "but I don't want to" "TOO BAD RESTARTING"
 
fuck win 8
I don't know why people use it
it's depressingly awful
 
I put it on my laptop to see what it's like since it's free from my school and I had to wipe anyway
I like Windows 7 the best though, followed by Ubuntu
 
@TonyTheLion Because it's good?
 
bad argument
 
Most of the Win8 criticism I've seen is essentially a big pile of They Changed It, Now It Sucks.
 
4:44 PM
good is depending on personal view
@EtiennedeMartel but... but it's true :P
 
user142019
I write C# for money! \o/
 
@Zoidberg I do too. Get over it.
 
user142019
I like it.
 
@Zoidberg what happened to school?
 
Ell
4:45 PM
@Zoidberg for who?
 
@EtiennedeMartel imo windows 7 is a bit more intuitive. Windows 8 did do some things right (it feels pretty smooth), but a lot of the things they miscalculated are pretty damn annoying
 
@Crowz It's the same, except for that start menu/screen thing.
I guess the bad thing is that they went a bit too quickly with the paradigm change.
(Same mistake as they did with the ribbon)
And the fact that they force you into Metro by default on PCs, which is weird because Metro is optimized for touch screens.
 
I dislike the lack of personalization
Like, at the start tile screen, it's a pain to change to anything but what they recommend
 
@EtiennedeMartel I think it is deliberate, they burn win 8 now and then sell SP1 under new name as the best thing ever, kind of like win 7 was a sp for vista.
 
Does every programmer that is a a professional program like this > youtube.com/watch?v=y71lli8MS8s
 
4:48 PM
@JohanLarsson Pretty costly.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Most of the criticism I have seen is that the UI violated well-established best practices of user interface design and is, as a consequence, completely unusable because functionality is hidden
 
@EtiennedeMartel I think it is/was priority to make Xp feel old. Same with win 7 now.
 
@KonradRudolph As I said, they messed up their transition by going too fast.
 
@noob1992 no. Most look like this: youtube.com/watch?v=_I3KR0zW0oY
 
4:51 PM
also they get to sell a bunch of win 8 any way.
 
It kinda was a serious question . not to sound rude or anything@Pubby
 
@EtiennedeMartel That’s not the point: for instance, there’s criticism that not all buttons are marked as such, and are in fact indistinguishable from passive text
that’s not “going too fast”, that’s flat-out wrong
 
If that is what a regular session for a programmer is in a day at some software company looks like.......
 
@noob1992 FYI that guy has written NES emulators a few times before and that video is sped up
(at least I think it's sped up)
 
It might be sped up. But there is no out takes and he doesn't even have a compile error .
 
4:54 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Happy 100th birthday, Rosa Parks. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [go-away] [no-helpdesk]
There, felt like it was important.
 
This is Jesus cousin > youtube.com/watch?v=QIUVSD3yqqE
I'm going to live with my parents for the rest of my life. There is no way I can program like that everyday . That is impossible .
Everybody who is learning any language just give up... What is the use of even trying..
 
@JohanLarsson I reckon the building is still there
In other news. C# friends are quick with the downvote button. Reconsider, not so much :( stackoverflow.com/a/14691081/85371
 
I hope so
 

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