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2:00 AM
Drinking beer and watching pixar movies is a weird feel
 
well i pasted the contents of ucd_c++-6.2.zip and I'm getting an error so I guess I'll just try to generate it?
 
What error?
Do you get it if you hg update 0.4.1 first?
 
I downloaded the repo as a zip
then i downloaded ucd_c++-6.2.zip and pasted that into where it was supposed to go
now im getting unable to find numeric litteral operator 'operator "" _u'
 
Ah, yeah, I changed it. I removed the silly _u user defined literal.
Now it uses the normal Unicode literals.
 
So how do I generate the stuff?
I see some .cs files
 
2:03 AM
It's a single .cs file. You can drop it in an empty C# project and compile, I think. ThePhD managed it :P But I can update that. Gimme a sec to make a zip.
 
ogonek - hardest build system in the world
 
lol
 
@Rapptz It's not. ThePhD managed :/
 
more like Borgleader, stupidest programmer in the Lounge.
 
2:05 AM
@Borgleader it's dumbest, I don't think stupidest is a word unless they changed it some time ago.
 
@Borgleader Alternatively you can download the zip for the 0.4.1 tag. That's stable.
 
If it's not VS or SVN/Perforce I'm sadly way out of my comfort zone.
I've rarely worked with gcc/hg
 
gcc is sexy
sort of.
linking is annoying
 
but it's okay otherwise
 
2:07 AM
Use that one. I'm busy writing docs now :/
 
I forgot what I was doing
 
I pasted over what I had unzipped
 
Dunno if that's fine...
 
it compiled
 
Cool.
I'm renaming some shit, and cleaning up stuff, so trunk isn't very good now.
Writing docs is useful to find out what isn't that great in the API.
 
2:10 AM
Collation goes where?
 
ogonek/collation.h++.
 
ah so new file
 
Yeah. It should have few to no dependencies on existing stuff.
Maybe some property in the UCD, and that's it.
 
Which flag do you give something that's basically the same question with the exact same code?
 
Duplicate?
 
2:14 AM
I'm not sure if low quality includes that. I haven't flagged much.
There's no duplicate option. I figured flagging for deletion is right since it's pretty much an exact duplicate.
 
plagiarism
under "other"
just leave that as the note I guess
 
Well, same author :p
In case you're wondering, it's this and the proposed duplicate.
 
http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr10/
Oh, I see I have some reading to do
 
Hmm, yeah :P
 
 
2:21 AM
I would start by building the table, btw.
 
@LucDanton now live updating here downloads.sehe.nl/stackoverflow/minecraft/gantt.png ^ (probably just till 03:00am CEST, due to nightly synchronization wreaking havoc on ssh config)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't they provide it?
 
@sehe WTF Mon Fri Tue Sat Wed...?
 
neat
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Days of the week, you know
 
2:22 AM
@Borgleader Yes (it's in the references at the end), but you need to implement functions to query it.
@sehe In what order?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes chronological :_ derp
 
So, 30 January at midnight was Friday, but 30 January at noon was between Tuesday and Saturday? I'm really confused.
 
gnuplot doesn't give a lot of control over which ones are picked for tick marks. (unless I work really hard for it I guess?) Nevertheless, on 'useful scales' (not months) I thought it'd add more than just confusion
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're on to something. I think the primary/secondary x axes are out of synch.
Darn. Or the weekday thing of gnuplot is broken for timestamps that are in seconds since the epoch
I'll see whether I can clean that up. Later :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do I use your tool to "compile" it?
 
@Borgleader The UCD, yes. But for the collation table, I have nothing yet.
 
2:32 AM
Are we talking something like the .inl files you have? essenstially a huge array with of "pairs" ?
Cuz I could write some CS code to do the conversion first.
Just gimme a format
 
@Borgleader Yeah, something like that.
 
Why can't Clang find iostream? :/
 
Just define some struct collation_element and make a huge array of it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes removed the confusion for now. dunno what went wrong there /cc @LucDanton
 
You cheated!
;)
 
2:36 AM
@Rapptz because you didn't #include <yourmum>
 
yeah yeah.
 
I what?! I just disabled the use of a feature that I apparently don't understand :)
 
@melak47 your mom is #included with every purchase
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not sure, but it might have something todo with multiplot. I've never used that before
 
@MarkGarcia I was about to post my answer :(
 
2:45 AM
I really now feel as an idiot.
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes And I'm very sorry.
 
trying to see my linker error @_@
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: I feel like an idiot, but what information should I keep out of the allkeys.txt? I mean for every: 0000 ; [.0000.0000.0000.0000] # [0000] NULL (in 6429) Would I keep .0000.0000.0000.0000 and 0000? (Sorry for asking all these questions)
0000 being the character and .0000.0000.0000.0000 being the collation element
 
I haven't read all of it, but everything before # is useful info.
The format is described here unicode.org/reports/tr10/#File_Format
 
Yeah ok I was thinking of keeping both of those
 
# is a marker for comments, like in several *nix-y config files.
I think you need the character, the four weights, and a bool for the ones with asterisks (variable something something).
 
2:58 AM
Yeah although the fourth weight is used for like approximate sorting or something
or semi-stable sorting
I'll keep it anyway
 
Oh, and some characters have more than one element.
LATIN SMALL LETTER AE is one example.
 
Ah yes
 
Not sure how that can work, but I guess checking the maximum and using an array is fine.
No, wait, initializer_lists!
 
I'll start with the parsing if you don't mind ;)
 
Sure.
@MarkGarcia Oh, you undeleted it? I posted my answer.
 
3:04 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks again.
 
std::move is named a bit confusingly.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. Pretty much.
 
And I said, "Let there be no light". And there was no light. And lo, the 49ers were good.
Best SuperBowl tweet.
 
I don't understand why I'm getting linker errors
this is like, baffling and annoying
now that I fixed it compile time takes 18 seconds ;_;
#include <iostream>
#include <string>
#include <boost/regex.hpp>

int main()
{
    std::string s = "aaabbbcc";
    boost::regex reg(R"(\d+)");
    std::cout << boost::regex_match(s,reg);
}
 
That takes 18 seconds?
 
3:16 AM
yeah
I reran it just in case and got [Finished in 12.4s]
 
weird I got lots of linker errors when I tried it
 
Is that on a desktop machine?
 
no, I'm on a laptop
 
Anybody else seeing oddities with some Gravatars at the moment?
 
3:18 AM
yeah
@jozefg Well you need to build boost regex
 
I have I have
 
@JerryCoffin I've noticed a drop shadow.
 
@MarkGarcia I'm seeing a few with drop shadows, and quite a few that are taking quite a while to load (if they do at all).
 
@JerryCoffin I think the drop shadows are for users with > 1k reps.
 
They are.
I think my mingw might be corrupt
 
can't believe I haven't seen UP until now, it was great
 
@Crowz The Pixar film?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Pixar yeah
 
Yeah, it was good. Not as good as WALL-E, though.
 
3:44 AM
I still haven't seen that :o
Tangled was my favorite 3D movie by far though
 
@EtiennedeMartel Better!
 
I've seen neither.
 
What? You didn't see WALL-E?
 
No, or Up.
 
Why the fuck are you still here? Go see it!
 
3:44 AM
I'd rather not.
 
Not yet, which is weird, because I go to the college Ed Catmull graduated from
 
I like Pixar though.
 
This movie still makes me rock hard.
 
There's a Wall-E exhibit in the engineering building
Well... this is one of the saddest things I've ever read...
Gelert, a legendary dog associated with the village of Beddgelert, Wales. According to the legend, a king returned from hunting to find his baby's cradle overturned, the baby missing, and Gelert with blood around its mouth. Imagining that it had savaged the child, Llywelyn drew his sword and killed the dog, which cried out pitifully. The king then heard the cries of the baby and finds it unharmed under the cradle, along with a dead wolf which had attacked the child and been killed by Gelert.
The king, overcome with remorse, buried the dog with great ceremony, but Llywelyn never smiled again, plagued by the memory of the dog's dying cries.
 
You've never read that before?
 
3:46 AM
Nah
 
I read a lot of dog stories after watching Jurassic Bark
the futurama episode
 
Fry's dog is still really hard to watch...
This is an annotated list of famous dogs. Other lists of dogs include List of fictional dogs, List of dog breeds, and List of dog types. Actors Commercials * Axelrod, Basset Hound – appeared in commercials and print ads for Flying "A" Service Station advertisements in the 1960s. * Cheeka, a Pug who appeared in the popular "You & I" advertising campaign of Hutch's cellular service in India, along with the child actor Jayaram. * Gidget, a female Chihuahua, was featured in a Taco Bell advertising campaign as the "Taco Bell Chihuahua." She also played the role of Bruiser's mother in Legally ...
 
Yeah I read them from that Wiki article
 
@ThePhD When you use your outline shader do you first render the text to an intermediate texture and then render that one to the screen with the shader applied?
 
Game of thrones is so overrated...
 
new guy in da house
ravens win!
take that meow mewo
 
@user1690130 Might want to read the rules over on the right sidebar. FWIW, few people here care much about the Superbowl. Many (most?) are European, so they think of "football" as involving primarily kicking a round ball, not carrying and/or throwing an oblong one.
 
4:41 AM
Hey guys, I know this is C++ but could I get some help with a C code? :o
 
ok
 
@KevinMurphy You can ask about it. Somebody might answer if your question happens to be entertaining or interesting, but otherwise it's not really very likely.
 
@KevinMurphy you are probably wondering how to embed some virus in the print code generation of a C compiler, so that it perpetuates itself to new C compiler without anybody noticing?
 
not really :p
 
Oh the rage at this superbowl... :(
come on...
This is why I don't really watch football anymore... Too much butt-hurt.
This time being the sole exception since I grew up in the Bay Area and I'm a 49ers fan.
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Oh no you don't... :)
 
5:02 AM
who are you talking to?
you look insane on my screen
 
@Rapptz The author of the message he just moved to the bin.
 
@Rapptz Some prick was dissing the 49ers. :)
 
Oh wow
I have him plonked.
 
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:)
 
lol
 
5:03 AM
@Mysticial 49ers rule! :)
@Mysticial go 49ers go! :)
 
@user1690130 They're already gone (until next year, anyway).
 
I don't know whether I should bin those because you're obviously sarcastic.
 
@Mysticial go sf giants! cndlestick!
 
But TBH, that was a pretty intense game.
I almost packed up and went back to my room to do homework.
Especially after that kickoff return.
 
here's a question: could you quantify and measure a player's defensiveness vs agressiveness in an RPG?
 
5:05 AM
@Mysticial yay for the mission district! bay to breakers! godiva chocolate! yay bay area!!
@Mysticial what homework do you have?
@Mysticial the highlight was when the power went out
@JerryCoffin nobody is gone
 
@user1690130 Sure they are (gone from the TV, anyway).
 
@JerryCoffin yes during the blcak out they were soooo gone
@Mysticial i should bin you for saying tha tyou like the 49ers. that is blasphemy
 
@user1690130 Only room owners can do that.
 
@Crowz number of times the player moves away from a mob vs the number of times the player performs an attack. Weigh it by the player's HP.
 
@Mysticial but i don't. i'm nice like. (UNLIKE CAT MEOW MEOW AND HIS MASTER SENOR R)
@JerryCoffin whatever. i would never do that. i'm not a meow mewo
 
5:15 AM
@AndreiTita Interesting. Here's my idea:
 
@Crowz RPGs typically have cooldowns that increase vulnerability and damage done, same thing?
 
Honestly, who's that guy?
 
@Crowz oh you mean a real person's aggressiveness
 
Take a large scale PvP fight. Measure a few components of the battle and grant a sigil based on that. ie, if one team is very aggressive and a player is more defensive, they might get a +10atk +3def
You know what I mean?
 
like a stacking buff for not screwing up
 
5:18 AM
In a way, I just think after a large scale battle they'd be given an armor rune which reflects HOW they fought that battle, you know what I mean?
 
been done (generally) with stacking buffs and aoe buff effects
 
I see
It will be tougher to quantify the stats you need in a complex system like a modern pvp rpg.
 
@AndreiTita I'm thinking about implementing it in a small scale RPG I am working on
 
pvp players absolutely master the game as far as I have seen. they will find every exploit. that's the tricky part
 
@Crowz You should probably worry about that once you have a working prototype.
 
5:21 AM
@AndreiTita I have a small RPG haha right now I am making the camera, sword and shield, etc.
 
5:34 AM
Should I use swap in a move assignment operator?
I mean is it better to swap rather than move-assign member-wise?
 
7 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It is the moral equivalent of returning a reference to a local variable/temporary.
lol
moral equivalent
morning, chaos.
 
haha
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Given that it's essentially returning a reference to a local, perhaps "immoral equivalent" would be more accurate.
 
I think he used "moral" to describe the equivalence category, rather than the act itself.
"Immoral equivalent" sort of implies that the original (returning a reference to a local variable/temporary) was not immoral, and that you are modifying the equivalence relation to add immorality
Teehee I love this room
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Undoubtedly.
 
5:41 AM
Wassuuuppppppp
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Or, in this case, that both are equivalently immoral.
 
That equivalence.
I woke up at 6:30 and I need to get up at 7:00. What to do?
Try to sleep for another half hour or get up?
 
There should be a way to automate some of the writing of move constructors/operators. std::copy_all_fundamental_and_POD_members
 
@StackedCrooked Go back to sleep and wake up in 24 1/2 hours.
 
@StackedCrooked It's 6:47. What half-hour?
 
5:47 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, you know my answer.
@JerryCoffin Tempting.
 
@AndreiTita You mean = default;?
 
@AndreiTita By not implementing them?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, that works? It's cool. I still have to write it because MSVC, tho.
 
what you think is the best utility for keeping a window on top of others . Any window any application window open
 
in Anime and Manga on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 27 mins ago, by Shog9
> 4045 votes. 98% to Mooing Duck.
cc @MooingDuck
 
5:52 AM
@StackedCrooked You must live in that famous GMT+0.75 timezone
 
Why? I didn't specify any time as being 'now'.
 
People are crazy like that.
 
> The exact timezone was in fact GMT +0h 19m 32.13s until March 17, 1937, when it was simplified to GMT +0h 20m
Ha. It was "simplified".
Imagine the chaos if time zones were a continuous function of the longitude.
 
It's funny how many countries in that part of Western Europe are on Central European Time because of Germany in WW2 and laziness to change back.
 
@Insilico That would be beautiful.
 
5:56 AM
Does std::deque require copy-constructible?
 
Only for certain operations.
(Like copying it)
 
@AndreiTita C++11 containers relaxes many requirements thanks to move semantics
But it still depends on what you want to do with it
 
@Insilico At one time they basically were (mostly). It was only when railroads started to come into use that they started synchronizing clocks, setting up time zones, etc.
 
@FredMcgiff the nview utility has it if you have nvidia video card - adds new entries to control box menu at top left corner of app
 
@Insilico haha
 
5:59 AM
nview
 
@StackedCrooked I don't need you to tell me what "now" is!
@R.MartinhoFernandes :)
 

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