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05:03
There's also that book written by Francis Glassborrow.
So the room isn't completely dead.
Just got up. Had 3 hours of sleep :p
you're ugly
My mom disagrees.
@StackedCrooked You're supposed to say, "No, you're ugly.".
@Mysticial Your face is ugly.
@DeadMG Your mom's ugly.
I'd rather be ugly and rich.
@Mysticial Your whore is ugly. Because you're poor and can't afford a good one.
wait, I think I lost the original meaning of what I was going to say somewhere in there.
Did you figure out what you were supposed to do?
05:09
lol
no, I didn't.
probably "apply for jobs", "take out rubbish", "shower" or some other mundane irrelevant shit
You wanted to check out carreer overflow?
naw
I suspect that either there are hardly any C++ employers on there, or they only search for people who graduated
I find that hard to believe. Are you living in rural area?
not especially
but the only job adverts I've seen on there are for 10+ years experience, phd from Oxbridge
05:15
@DeadMG That sounds ridiculous. Not everybody has a PhD from Oxbridge.
When we graduated from college they told us to ignore all that and still apply.
well
Keep in mind that employers are having a really hard time finding C++ developers as well.
And most candidates are crap.
truth is that I don't spend an awful lot of time searching for jobs
the endless "MUST HAVE DEGREE" stuff just puts me off
I dislike spending all my time reading about how inferior I am for wanting to solve actual problems instead of just wanking about them on a blackboard
I mean, an employer wouldn't pay me to sit around and do nothing, so why should I expend money for that
In your situation, the best approach to "making up" for not having a degree is to complete a large personal project and publicize it.
05:20
I don't understand those last two sentences. Are you talking gibberish or should I drink coffee first?
Employers are really only interested in how well you can perform. Without any other info, they'll judge on your degree.
Once you get past that hurtle, it's a lot easy.
In other words, find a way to get some work experience.
And make it known.
@Mysticial I wouldn't mind that. But then I'd have to live with my parents and get a job or someshit whilst working on it.
so unless they want to read about that maphack I wrote
yeah, I was about to ask. You probably have a side project that you do in your free time.
Living with your parents doesn't sound too bad.
I think most of us do here.
05:23
@StackedCrooked It is.
I wish I could still live with my parents instead of paying rent.
@StackedCrooked It definitely has its benefits.
@Mysticial I do. Several. But I haven't shipped any of them.
The rent is too damn high!
I mean, arguably, their purpose was for me to learn things, so they served their purpose. It's not like I wasted my time.
05:24
Don't need to cook. Don't need to do laundry. Don't need to clean the bathroom...
@Mysticial My parents would make me do all three of those.
but more relevantly, they live in a swamp. How can I buy food at 6am in the middle of a swamp?
@DeadMG My parents never did...
how can I DL Windows 8 or VC2012 at 300kb/s?
@Mysticial Actually I don't need to do those things because my mom lives nearby :)
and they'd always be nagging me about things
05:24
I pay her to clean.
@DeadMG That's very annoying.
So are you living with them now?
I'm a lot less close to them than they'd really like, and they also don't really understand why
@StackedCrooked Moving back next Sunday.
My mom nags a lot. I only listen to her when I feel like it.
Naggers gonna nag.
05:26
lol
Moms usually nag more than fathers.
@DeadMG I was reminded of that as well :D
@DeadMG hmm, "is it an 'I'???"
heh
RTSLE.. Rustle
Wasn't even intended too.. since jimmy rustling is newer than the episode.
05:36
you know
I wonder if I could extract subsections of my existing projects and call them open-source projects
I mean, arguably, some parts like my octree code could be factored out to be standalone.
@DeadMG I'm actually in the process of doing that with parts of my pi program.
The digit viewer, the compression format, as well as all the compression/decompression code will be open-sourced in the next major released.
So yeah, if you can't finish a big project. Pull out parts of it.
06:08
oh... FF15 is out... maybe that'll solve my 100% CPU GC problem I've been having...
lol
@DeadMG Yeah, I've been having this issue with FF14 that after a few hours of auto-refreshing, the GC takes several seconds to run.
FF runs the GC pretty much after every other action, so stuff like scrolling or loading a new page would hang FF for several seconds every time.
I thought they were written in C++
what were?
I think they have a custom GC.
06:14
afaik, the GC is just for the javascript stuff
which they have a lot of
don't think they have one for C++
Whatever it was, the GC would take 3-5 seconds to run on my machine.
That would happen several times a second.
And while it's running, FF is unresponsive.
fun fun
It would only happen after I left the AF on for more than 10 hours or so.
just for kicks, have you tried forcing a gc or cycle collection from the about:memory page?
although yeah, FF15 is probably a better bet
@jalf I read about that about:memory thing. But I was never able to figure out it what it was. I tried popping open the dev-console and entering that command - clearly I was in the wrong place.
06:17
in the address bar :)
at a guess I'd say each time you refresh the page, a (badly-written) extension holds on to a reference to the DOM, so it can't be released
which is what FF15 is supposed to get around
@jalf that's too obvious... how in the world was anyone supposed to figure that out? bangs head against wall
@Mysticial there's also a few others... like about:robots :)
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06:51
@jalf I had a nice time. Where you in the other conference room interviewing the Java guy?
07:03
@ManofOneWay yeah
Wait did you two meat up IRL?
man of one way served jalf up as meat
Gurgle. Obviously @jalf @ManofOneWay "Wait did you two meet up IRL?"
I plead caffeine deficiency (maybe I should pleed to balance it out)
@sehe almost. He visited where I work, but I wasn't available at the time ;)
I SAW him though!
That's what we call a near miss
07:09
:)
So he came for an actual, real life, job interview? This chat thing is starting to look like it has real consequences (or did you guys know each other before?)
As I understood it, it wasn't an actual job interview, because he's not looking for work until next year or something? Just a kind of checking out the place and meeting the boss and maybe laying the groundwork :)
and no, we didn't know each others before
100% based on chat
Yes, I still have the thesis left. I will have another interview in october though, where I will be questioned by the other programmers as well.
I'm assuming you will be one of them =)
Probably not :)
I've done a few interviews recently, but it's not in my job description or anything. My boss is just trying to pull in a few "regular" programmers to help with the interviews, but in your case I'll probably pass since I might be biased
Good beforenoon.
07:16
Good ante-post-meridian
I hate sharing a single bathroom
desperately need a shit but my flatmate is having a bath#
which she seems to do eternally
@DeadMG Yeah. I prefer sharing 6 bathrooms
lol
@DeadMG Look at the bright side: he'd probably stink a lot more otherwise
as if we ever encounter each other
07:20
@DeadMG just shit in her bath and she will get out very quickly.
Smells travel through the air
@sehe epic gender fail
@DeadMG Wait. You have a female flatmate? When did that happen. Or are you referring to your mom?
It's a trap!
I've had one since I came here
07:21
Poor puppy. Nah, he has a computer. He must be rich.
Is she hot?
last year I lived with one girl. This year I lived with one, then two for a brief period, and then one again.
@DeadMG That leads to the question: When did that happen?
@ManofOneWay Right now, I'd guess so: baths tend to make hot and soft
@sehe Since before I came to this chat channel.
Poor girl.
07:22
@DeadMG Ok. Somehow that didn't fit in the profile :)
why? the gender of my flatmates is quite arbitrary.
logically, it's quite probable that if I have three flatmates, at least one would end up female.
What - does it fluctuate?
Is "flatmate" British? I've never heard that word for roommate before.
roommate would imply that we share a room, which we don't.
Well, if she's very flatbreasted, a roommate can be called that, I guess
@DeadMG But, you share the bathroom :)
07:25
@DeadMG I'm imagine some kind of co-existence where both parties prefer to have as little interaction as possible.
@sehe bathroommate?
@StackedCrooked Something like that
I figured :)
@sehe Not really the same.
@DeadMG It could be better, in a way
07:28
> In the UK, the term "roommate" means a person living in the same bedroom, whereas in the United States, "roommate" and "housemate" are used interchangeably regardless whether a bedroom is shared.
Haddock is so awesome.
From wiki...
morning all
So yeah, it says that "flatmate" is indeed British. That's why I've never heard the term after having been in a college environment for 6 years now.
@Mysticial didn't know it was special to UK
07:31
@thecoshman Or maybe just unspecial to the US. I'm not sure if Australia or other English-speaking countries use it.
so this morning, the cat an explosive need to shit. It some how managed to fire a shit onto the skirting board, down which it slowly slipped. She then proceeded to wipe her ass on the floor to clean her hole.
and how do you call someone you share your check with?
@akiva_eshbal what do you mean 'check'?
@sehe Yeah, I could live alone.
that could be what yo ask for at the end of meal in a restaurant, a bill really, or it could be the outdated way of paying some one money
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07:35
I should apply for this job before I go to bed
@DeadMG I keep saying that to my self... still stuck here
07:50
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