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2:01 PM
magic
 
though git fetch -p is also what I needed, to get rid of stale references to branches that exist no more
hmm... how insane would it be to have a crone job setup to constantly fetch?
 
Funny shit..
http://m.weibo.cn/status/4098983171374903
4
 
my haskell test got into infinite loop and kept running after Ctrl-C
I barely got the system back in order after it used 30GB of RAM
 
oh wow
that's impressive, even compared to Chrome's ram usage
 
well it just kept growing as fast as it could
4
 
2:08 PM
@ProblemSlover so good
 
nsfw
 
@BartekBanachewicz ¬_¬ then it's terribly slow
 
(but funny af)
 
@Columbo dude, don't do it like that
 
fuck again
I've noticed before my music started stuttering this time
 
2:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have no words for how amazing this is.
 
@BartekBanachewicz que?
 
@thecoshman well it did that last time
 
@Borgleader I do, it's good fun
@thecoshman Mate, if you finally lost your virginity, you'd scream equally loud
 
@Morwenn dat compression on the cembalo. I'm wondering whether it's very good digital, or sampled.
Also, dat faux-bass drop? Oh it's just delayed
 
@Columbo I meant the dickish way you linked to it
you know it's NSFW, but you've linked to it in a click-bait way
@sehe could you maybe clean it up before trouble ensues?
 
2:20 PM
@thecoshman Yeah, by pasting the link, I'm such a ruthless asshole, no
 
ugh fffs why does it keep looping
 
@Columbo look at the starboard
 
    (LuaMT a) >>= f =
        do
            rs <- LuaMT $ do
                s <- lift get
                let sm = runStateT (runExceptT a) s -- :: m (Either Err a, EC)
                (rs, s') <- lift . lift $ sm
                lift $ put s'
                return rs

            case rs of
                Left s -> throwError s
                Right v -> f v
what am I doing wrong
 
@thecoshman I see myself
 
1 message moved to bin
@Columbo Just repost with NSFW in the message. Thanks
 
2:21 PM
No worries
 
Cheers
 
I always like to help the less fortunate who have to work
 
I don't think it's very ns, but I didn't watch the whole thing
 
Unlike me, who just sits here, drinks his coffee and wanks when he wants to
5
@sehe It contains ns noise
 
My coworker just introduced another coworker to 4chan etc.
 
2:22 PM
@Columbo dunno I'm at work but I'm not working anymore
 
But then again, it's in our line of business
 
@BartekBanachewicz What are you doing?
@sehe ?
out or our?
 
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
ugh fffs why does it keep looping
 
@Columbo Fixed
 
How is 4chan in your line of business? What do you work on, roughly?
 
2:24 PM
@Columbo He writes all the posts on 4chan
 
@Columbo Digital Forensics and child abuse prevention, mainly
 
For some reason I thought it was the ape's job. Or do you both work in that?
 
@sehe You work with da police?
 
Nope. Though they use our software
 
You do image recognition and stuff?
 
2:25 PM
And Terre des Hommes
 
user1804599
TABLESAMPLE is coolio
 
@Columbo Somewhat. Actually our product is the enabler for non-tech investigators. So the "high-tech" stuff is out of scope
 
But there's still a lot of tech involved, mainly due to input volumes and portability (we need to be able to consume any format in use, basically)
 
@sehe Interesting. If your work makes the world a better place, I owe you one ;)
 
2:27 PM
I'm not sure, of course (that would never reach me) but at the very least chances are ery good that it does. Because, why would they pay for our s/w if it didn't serve their purpose :)
 
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17 hours ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
sometimes I think that this language is way smarter than I am
 
Low bar :)
 
GHC is better at writing code than me
what am I even doing here
@JakubDaniel Sure, you can write all the instances by hand. But you don't want to (and will probably mess one up), thus GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving. — Cirdec Sep 14 '15 at 19:51
lel
 
A bit off topic here but does anyone have an estimate how much it would cost me to build the smallest possible rocket to launch a camera to the moon?
(and be able to receive the images)
 
user1804599
@Gizmo A billion US dollars.
 
2:33 PM
yay I lost my site analytics privilege again
 
@Gizmo Before thinking about cost, just think about possibility: would you think any government would allow its citizens to launch rockets with a range higher than cruise missiles like that?
 
Well I'm in no position to judge the estimates but lets say that's way over any budget I could ever attain
@Rerito Well someone doesn't believe we were to the moon and I just want to prove him wrong.
 
@Gizmo Oh don't get into that shit
 
@Gizmo Depends on the space agency. Rockets are cheaper in India and apparently work well enough.
 
It's like the FES fanatics (I believe @R.MartinhoFernandes worked a lot on the rhetorics to prove FES guys wrong)
 
2:36 PM
Heh yeah well I usually don't get into such shit but it's my co-resident and it just keeps popping up sometimes and I'm like done with that shit
Just prove him wrong and let him shut up for life
At least about that topic, for all the other stuff he's an okay guy
 
@Gizmo you can't think moon landing was fake and be "an okay guy"
 
@BartekBanachewicz #tolerance
 
@Gizmo You won't be able to "prove" that because they are obviously impervious to facts
 
Strictly speaking, it's quite difficult to outright prove that we went to the moon. The best you can do is the whole laser reflector thing but unless you have all the kit yourself, there is still scope for massive conspiracy.
NB I'm not saying there was one
and thank goodness for "five sigma is good enough" :)
Still, until I see it with my own eyes, I'm not going to call anybody stupid for holding an opposing viewpoint
 
Strictly speaking, it's difficult to achieve any kind of cognition. However, I highly doubt that the USA spent billions of dollars on a rocket that never actually did a job worth the money
 
2:45 PM
@Columbo USSR did :p
 
@Morwenn USSR was led by drunk brown bears, didn't you know?
 
@Columbo Landing on the moon is worth less than launching Hubble (and the repair mission, for that matter), IMO
 
@Columbo so theres was more than one drunken bear?
 
@sehe "worth" as in figuratively? I agree
 
> N1-L3 was underfunded and rushed, starting development in October 1965, almost four years after the Saturn V. The project was badly derailed by the death of its chief designer Sergei Korolev in 1966. Each of the four attempts to launch an N1 failed; during the second launch attempt the N1 rocket crashed back onto its launch pad shortly after liftoff and exploded, resulting in one of the largest artificial non-nuclear explosions in human history.
 
2:47 PM
@Columbo I don't know how to "literally" value a moon landing.
 
@sehe "worth" as in the cost of the venture
 
How is cost ever related to worth.
 
@sehe Oh, it correlates pretty strongly I reckon
 
I know economy concerns itself with transforming one value into another, but it doesn't follow that expensive things are valuable.
@Columbo Only by convention. Space missions aren't conventional.
 
Sometimes expensive projects are left unused.
 
2:50 PM
@sehe They might become in a few decades' time.
 
@BoundaryImposition Damn you almost tricked me into thinking you were someone else, you dutch brat
 
@Columbo Yeah. Meaning if they become commercially viable, that would impose some measure of market restrictions, moving it more into the realm of "conventional" economy.
Until that time, don't forget that market differentiation already skews the notion of "value" in the upper 1% markets. A 20k$ hotel night is not "worth" that much more. Value is very relative even three
 
@Columbo Almost.
 
@Columbo He's not dutch.
 
2:53 PM
@sehe Wait, what?
 
😂😂😂
Guess I win again.
 
I swear he is!
 
2 days ago, by sehe
Apr 14 at 21:30, by sehe
@BoundaryImposition LTO is not self-referential enough
That was entirely too easy :)
@BoundaryImposition Props indeed :)
 
@Columbo First she's a girl please refrain from assuming people's genders
 
Wait
 
2:54 PM
@Columbo Yes
 
I thought it was rightfold
 
sigh
 
Yes, that's because you were fooled.
 
rightfold is a girl by some definition I guess
 
IS IT THE MAN
IS IT THE ONE AND ONLY
 
2:55 PM
it's the man herself
 
who's who then? I'm lost as well
 
LRIO.
 
Well, I guess my work here is done.
 
@BoundaryImposition Are you still in Nottingham?
How's life?
 
2:56 PM
yeah
 
Still doing R&D?
 
Raid & Downvote?
 
@Columbo yes
@SpongyFruitcake yes
@Columbo i'm on holiday
 
You still got that cool beard?
 
2:59 PM
Good stuff
 
?
 
He's greeting you back*
 
That has never happened before
 
I can tell.
 
3:00 PM
let's not get carried away
 
why? it's boring to stay at one place... ehh
 
@login_not_failed except when it's in front of a pc, all day coding :)
 
@Gizmo I play eight pool when I have some stuff compiling :3 pretty refreshing
 
@BoundaryImposition Well, I did a group project last term that involved large scale scraping from Amazon for which I used public proxy lists, and unfortunately my work wasn't included in the final client version, since it's kinda illicit
 
@Gizmo Well, that's called work, so...
 
3:02 PM
And now I'm doing exams, which means I have to learn SQL and this other graph database language Cipher
Good fun
@Morwenn Is something work if you like it?
 
@Columbo whoops
 
@Columbo As long as I get paid for it, it's work.
 
@Columbo SELECT `grade` FROM `results` WHERE `nick` = "Columbo";
inb4 who's nick
@Columbo Sure
 
@Morwenn that ye
 
gangsters enjoy their work
@Columbo How so?
 
3:04 PM
Who wouldn't want to work with $1,000,000 hardware? It's always fun! except when it's not and you break something permanently
 
looks perfect to me
 
@BoundaryImposition Nvm I thought the apostrophes were supposed to be Markdown
 
@Columbo Fooled again.
 
Everyday.
 
Also, those are backticks.
 
3:05 PM
@BoundaryImposition Interesting.
´ is a forward tick, I presume?
 
Don't ( ′ is though, in that it is a prime)
 
That's an accute accent combining character
 
@Rerito It's a lost cause, because motivated reasoning will make you constantly make up wilder and wilder explanations to reject any and all evidence that would contradict your idea.
"Oh, there's pictures of the Earth from space showing it's round" => fake.
"Oh, what about the South Pole?" => conspiracy.
 
Exactly what I thought.
 
3:16 PM
"Explain how GPS works"
 
Magic
 
GPS doesn't require a globe
 
@Morwenn they are just floating up there, that still works
 
although I suppose you'd have to call it something else
 
Don't we have more such everyday things that wouldn't work if our representations weren't correct enough? :p
 
3:17 PM
LORAN, for example, is ground-based and would work just fine if adjusted for a flat earth
not that LORAN as-is is a viable full alternative to GPS
but the same principles ultimately apply
 
@BoundaryImposition :)
 
@Morwenn One of my preferred "go-to"s against "the earth is only 6000 years old" people is the link between carbon dating and the existence of nuclear power stations
though that's fairly tenuous if you truly grok either of them, and if you don't then it's unconvincing anyway
still, worth a try
 
@Morwenn ever heard about triangulation? :p
 
triangulation and a lot of calibration
 
flat fat earth
 
3:28 PM
May 30 '14 at 13:26, by DeadMG
@sbi She's the new Tina.
 
is @MartinJames still alive?
 
he got himself somewhat banned last time I checked
 
@ProblemSlover Of all your shitposts, this one is really well made. Which makes it a fail, I guess.
 
@sehe you were not joking back when you asked me about LRO. omg
 
@Telkitty I think he sometimes visits back under a different nick, like ScottW used to do
@login_not_failed Hmmm? I'm not sure what I asked. Too lazy to search for it
 
3:36 PM
@Telkitty for real?
:(
 
Ooorrrr - in an equally plausible twist of plots - he's permanently residing in a remote pub with no internet connectivity
 
small brain: bug in your code big brain: bug in the compiler cosmic brain: bug in the cpu's on-chip recompiler… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/855445075341398017
 
6 more weeks, and he should be all new and shining
 
@Borgleader on-chip recompiler?
What is this?
 
3:39 PM
I dont have more info
 
wtf
 
According to Charlie Demerjian, the Project Denver CPU may internally translate the ARM instructions to an internal instruction set, using firmware in the CPU.
^ I'm assuming this is the "on-chip recompiler"
 
wtf did MartinJames do to get suspended until June? did he kill someone?
looks like it was a one year ban jesus
 
no idea, people on this chat do disappear all of a sudden, then weeks/months later I found out that they had been banned
 
for the record, I wasn't banned; I just hate you all
 
3:44 PM
that's normal, we all feel the same ... although some are more autistic than others so we don't feel the hate as much, like we just don't care, so we stayed
 
Ell
More like you're afraid :D
 
Xeo
@BoundaryImposition and now you don't?
 
@Xeo I didn't say that
 
Welcome to the world of C++ pedantry. Our anal-retentiveness levels are over 9000. — Mysticial 5 secs ago
 
3:47 PM
Always avoid getting into a discussion with Olaf. Flag a moderator to get rid of the noise, no need to keep anything by the looks of it. — Hans Passant 17 hours ago
so Hans hasn't changed
there's really no need for comments like that
 
I just realised that you have not mentioned vlad at all since you come back
 
That's because he's Dutch
 
Xeo
@Mysticial wtf, since when is memcpy the same as reinterpret_cast
 
Okay, you prefer to try to make debating points. There's nothing to discuss. — Pete Becker 3 mins ago
this was kind of fun
and it didn't spiral out of control (relatively speaking)
still wonder what he wanted
like that kid who comes into the shop and starts screaming at you incoherently, then acts all pissed off when you have no idea what they're trying to accomplish, and storms out even more incensed than they started. and you're left standing there like... lol?!
and, with that, the pub beckons.
see you in a few years!
 
@Xeo Have you seen the audio related memcpy thing?
 
Xeo
3:53 PM
?
 
oh my god https://t.co/th6lQYQkfx
 
(no but he heard about it)
> most players use malloc to get memory while new is the c++ method and sounds better
superb
 
good one
 
Xeo
@Borgleader wow.
 
@BoundaryImposition What he wanted should be pretty obvious: that where you talk about Object o; you describe it as a definition, not just a declaration. Yes, a definition also acts as a declaration, but your description is about like calling water hydrogen. Yes, water contains hydrogen, but that doesn't mean that calling it hydrogen is a really an accurate description.
 
3:58 PM
memmove *u to the C room
 
@Borgleader The ability of audiophiles to ignore reality is truly an amazing thing.
 
@JerryCoffin yea but he wasn't professing that that's the "correct term" - he just said "you declared an object", which is right
he did call it hydrogen but it didn't matter in that case
 
probably a repost but FB Memories reminded me of the best advert ever
 
@Lesyeuxsansvisage Well, yes, it actually does. In particular, a declaration that's just a declaration wouldn't have involved "calling the default constructor" as he said. The fact that this is a definition, not just a declaration is completely relevant to question under discussion.
 
perhaps, but he did specify that the default constructor was called. i just don't see why it matters all that much
 
4:05 PM
@sehe my gf shared it with me actually :/
 
it's just being pedantic about terminology, something i'm very surprised to see in the C++ corner of the world
;)
 
@Lesyeuxsansvisage Largely because beginners are often confused about the difference between a declaration and a definition already--and given question asked here, it's pretty clear they're already a bit confused about it. An answer that reinforces their confusion rather than correcting it is actively harmful to the world.
 
I have been thinking - it's prbably a good thing that loungers whine about you - it means that there is a slight chance that you might be normal :p
 
loungers don't want to be normal
that's why we're all confused why you continually come back here
 
The only thing that could have made LRiO's idiocy funnier here would have been if he'd quoted to Pete the part of the standard where it actually says a definition is also a declaration. Then Pete could have given the obvious reply: "I wrote the part of the standard you're quoting." (and yes, he probably did write the relevant parts of the standard--he was the editor for a long time).
 
4:15 PM
LOL
 
What does the room status refer to?
 
@littlepootis We don't explain that.
 
@littlepootis If I told you, it wouldn't be funny any more.
 
... and would have to kill you.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought we corrected that programming in you?
oh, let's drum up some excitment...
Who's planning to come to uncon!? Who's booked and stuff? Let me know :D
 
Xeo
4:30 PM
I'd love to actually book the flight, but it's getting increasingly unsure of when I'll actually switch back to Duesseldorf ;__;
I passed my theoretical driving exam yesterday, so all I need now is more lessons and then the practical exam
but the Duesseldorf people want to have me there basically yesterday
the sooner the better
 
@thecoshman I will be attending Uncon, US West Coast Edition. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure I will be the only one doing so...
 
Ell
@thecoshman I haven't booked still >.<
 
@rightfold @Ven would you want to do an API review of the new Lua monad in turnip? I got it to work and I'd like to clean up the API while I'm at it
it's now a monad transformer like rightfold suggested multiple times, so you can use it with your own monads to parametrize computations with Lua
 
@ProblemSlover a what
 
@BartekBanachewicz Never mind. :P
 
doesn't that work for just basically lame keys like 512
I can't stand YT videos that could've been half a page of text instead so I can't tell
 
Anyway.. just for self education.... just skipped some parts..
 
5:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It'll work for real keys, but only if you have two keys that share a common factor, which shouldn't happen. Then again, it's sort of true that random number generation has (for decades) been an Achilles heel of a lot of crypto-systems.
 
Rusasia keeps provoking us .. their aircraft have flown 4 rimes near us coast in 4 days, really want they teach them a lesson
 
It is going to be delicious
 
I didn't know it was easy to make
I typically just buy it
 
It took me and hour or so
But it has to stay in the bucket for 24 hours + week in the fridge after it is bottled
but Vappu is coming and one does not simply party Vappu without mead
 
wow my code is gonna look so nice after I get rid of manual closure passing
I hated myself for that cls being passed everywhere
 
Ell
5:12 PM
What did you do instead of manual passing?
 
@Ell I changed my monad to include it in the VM state
type EvalContext = (Context, Closure)

newtype LuaMT m a = LuaMT (ExceptT String (StateT EvalContext m) a)
    deriving (Functor, Applicative, Monad, MonadIO, MonadError String)
I could've done that without refactoring it like that but eh
this gives me much more control over what eval functions can do
also can't beat that
- argVs <- map head <$> mapM (\a -> eval a cls) args

+ argVs <- map head <$> mapM eval args
ok here comes first tricky part where the closure is actually modified
the for loop creates a nested one for the body
 
evening
 
hello
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mead was pretty much the first alcoholic drink made in the western world...
 
5:31 PM
The fermentation has started and it smells incredible
 
@Horttanainen Much more elegant than @Puppy's "I farted" :P
6
 
I disagree
mine is quick and to the poin
 
sup /pol/
 
I'm actually wondering if I should make the closure Reader instead of State now
that makes more sense given it was just read
 
5:57 PM
> what i want the program to do is ask the user to enter p, n, or q depending on what a car did if they enter p the car paid to go through the tollbooth so the program will add one car to the amount of cars that went through the tollbooth and it will also add 50 cents to the total that was paid and n doesnt add 50 cents to the money because that car didnt pay but it adds to the number of cars that
> went through the tollbooth and q ends the question process if you want to call it that and outputs the amount of cars that went through the tollbooth and the amount paid the programs outputs that but the values are both at 0 so i dont think the functions are linking or the logic in the functions are wrong i just need help figuring out what it is thanks!
 
Just take a deep breath and take it all in at once
 
that's what .. he said?
goes nicely with your other msg :D
29 mins ago, by Horttanainen
The fermentation has started and it smells incredible
 
I have to start namespacing my messages don't I?
 
nah more fun this way
 
If two parties want to have it out over some C++ question, they can come to the Lounge. And the party that is wrong will be appropriately flamed, out-pedanted, and humiliated. — Mysticial 6 secs ago
 
6:04 PM
McDonalds are taking the Visual Studio approach to "UX" with their new dystopic monochrome uniforms
cos colour is so 1990s
 
I think they look nice
 
well you helped me out yesterday so I can't insult you over that
 
How did they look before these? I imagine some bright yellow with red
 
dunno about yankland but ours look something like this atm
bonus pic:
 
The new ones are better
I have a question in the Q&A side. Could somebody take a look at it?
 
We need more languages
 
@Horttanainen I suggest you read "The next 700 programming languages" by Peter Landin ;)
 
watch or read? first search suggestion is a video
 
It's a paper from the sixties.
Note that I haven't read it, I just find the title hilarious.
 
@Horttanainen Perhaps just recycle some old ones. If you're talking natural languages, let's revive Aramaic. If you mean programming languages, I think Algol 68 would be a worthy target.
 
6:34 PM
@JerryCoffin How about Lisp or Haskell on the JVM? Oh wait...
 
Ven
@fredoverflow dat ghcvm rebranding tho ;)
 
I'm not so sure prostitution can't be automated. Heck, I think it's one of the first things that will — Andre Terra 22 hours ago
^^ Why am I reading that site?
 
Ven
:|
 
@Mysticial Masochism
 
6:54 PM
Antifake: l'enquete no esta bien la explosion dans le metro de SPB http://dlvr.it/NxwMP3 https://t.co/Q9X5cz2PI2
wtf, ANNA news on Spanish?
no idea what she says, but sounds like the newsreader is surprised herself
 
7:39 PM
 
hmpfh
does zoom lens work in RWST
zoom :: (Monad m, Monoid w)             => Lens' s t      -> RWST r w t m c -> RWST r w s m c
apparently
gosh Ekmett's magic is stunning
 
Xeo
8:14 PM
zoom zoom
 
Xeo
That's basically what mine does too
 
hmm
I need a funny thing
I need a -> Reader a b -> Reader a b
except in RWS
so Monad m => r -> RWST r w s m a -> RWST r w s m a
 
8:50 PM
lol
@Xeo Daisy pretty much does this as well
 
Xeo
9:35 PM
Startup idea: Errorero, the $400 machine for squeezing compiler error messages into something more comprehensible and nutritious.
 
fuck
I wanted to play a nice relaxing game after a day of hard work
and the other team cheated
 
ScY
what game?
 
does it matter?
 
ScY
no
 
@Columbo LMAO. :D
 
9:42 PM
@Puppy Yes, so I can avoid games where there are cheaters.
 
@Borgleader There are cheaters in all games.
 
Even fucking Solitaire.
 
there are cheaters in every game
I just didn't expect them to be my friends
 
10:07 PM
@fredoverflow sneeze and you'll miss it o_0
not terrible though
 
10:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes How do you cheat... at solitaire?
 
or who do you cheat :-)
 
Xeo
@Borgleader you can save-scum your winning streak or sth
 
@Borgleader move cards around that you shouldn't?
 

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