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8:00 PM
Hey, now that I have 8 GiBs of RAM, I could finally fiddle with VMs and stuff!
Can you recommend a VM for Linux?
 
virtual box
 
Ell
same actually, my new build since christmas :L
 
How do I install a new OS inside a VM?
 
Ell
in virtual box?
 
Ell
8:02 PM
ooh actually im running ubuntu linux mint not debain
anyway you just need an .iso of the installation disk
 
ah okay
 
Ell
then you go on the vm's settings
click storage, attach the .iso, boot it up, run the isntall, optionally make an image of the hard drive for ruture use
 
installing virtual box as we speak
 
@FredOverflow start the machine, click the little cd in the down right corner, select the .iso ->reboot your machine
 
Ell
its really rather easy
 
Xeo
8:04 PM
@FredOverflow I have 2gig and do that! :P
 
@Xeo But you keep complaining that it's horrifically slow since it thrashes. :P
 
Xeo
:|
 
@Xeo I always wondered what to do with 8 GiB, and virtualization keeps coming up in forums :)
 
Xeo
But atleast it works!
 
lol, when I have all my usual programs open, I use 6 - 7GB already.
 
8:06 PM
@Xeo you seriously only have 2gb?
 
Xeo
Yep
 
lol, couldn't live with that
 
Ell
I have a laptop with 16mb :L
and my brother uses a pc with 512mb as his everyday comp
 
@bamboon Yep, same here. It's hard to run any real code on my machine when my usual apps use 7 GB / 12GB ram...
 
Ell
what apps do you write? :O
 
8:07 PM
Do I choose "Debian" or "Other Linux" for "Linux Mint Debian"? Does it matter at all?
 
@Ell 64-bit apps :P
 
Speaking of which, Mono doesn't support 64-bit Windows.
I wanted to use it for embedding, dammit, and now I'm out of an engine again.
 
@CatPlusPlus Really? That's a surprise.
 
Why does everything have to be so backwards.
Gaaah.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow it doesnt matter
may as well do debian
I don't actually know what that does though
but it doesn't matter
 
8:14 PM
Okay, I created the new virtual machine, and when I start it, I need to choose an install medium. An .iso doesn't work.
 
@EtiennedeMartel it have observed that adults especially feel the need to censor tha word 'shit'. Kids seem quite happy to discuss excrements at any time and without much consideration.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow what exactly about the .iso doesn't work?
@FredOverflow i.imgur.com/Pidct.png
 
@sehe Yeah, I feel about the same too. Seems like we censor ourselves not because it offends others, but because we fear that it might offend someone. It's a purely defensive measure.
 
Ell
just choose the iso like that, then boot
If you have teamviewer I can show you :)
 
Perhaps we can deliver the final votes on this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/10418699/…
 
8:19 PM
@Ell Ah, that worked. Thanks. The wizard didn't.
 
Ell
np :)
 
@classdaknok_t Oh great, now we'll have the meta-meta-police tapping this chat for weeks. As well
 
@EtiennedeMartel Most people do. A few apparently don't. I was riding a (fairly small) plane once, and out of the clear blue a guy about halfway back the plane suddenly shouts something like "Oh my god, who just farted? Holy shit it's so fucking nasty!" I think half the people on the plane were nearly asleep at the time, but he didn't seem bothered a bit (well, not about yelling or using language most people might find offensive, anyway).
 
@Ell Now it gives me some crap about 24 bit and 32 bit graphics, but I can't find such options.
Also, all I see is a Linux Mint picture, and that's all there is inside my VM...?
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, some people don't give a fuck.
 
8:25 PM
@EtiennedeMartel don't wipe out FootBlasterExEx - It's an arms feet race !
 
@sehe Oh, that one is probably new in Vista.
Is it me, or does MSDN completely fucked its CSS today?
 
@sehe Not sure I've seen an actual *ExEx, but I've definitely seen a few *Ex2.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow hmm, go on display and enable acceleration?
 
@EtiennedeMartel "today"?
 
@Ell only works for Windows, apparently
 
8:27 PM
6
A: What does it mean when `Ex` is added to a function/method name?

Hans PassantYup, they wanted to improve (Extend) the API and keep a similar name so it was likely that the programmer would move to the new version. Notable is GetVersionEx() to get the Windows version, pretty painful for a while with a nasty chicken-and-egg problem. The record keeper is the National Lan...

> No ExExEx as of yet
 
Overloading is an epic win!
Has anyone here ever done dwarf tossing?
Why not?
throw Dwarf();
 
@neal, you around?
 
@ScottW I wouldn't want to toss a giant.
I know a good Dutch pun but there's no Dutch people around…
 
Stupid Virtual Box, neither Linux Mint Debian nor Fedora get past the boot screen.
 
Anyone know wordpress?
 
8:38 PM
@sbi is at wordpress
 
@Moshe yeah, a bit.
I've created themes for it and played with it.
 
@FredOverflow Really?
 
@EtiennedeMartel stacksbi.wordpress.com
 
@FredOverflow try VMware, it works great for me.
 
0
A: How to get file size in ANSI C without fseek and ftell?

KazThe article has a little problem of logic. It (correctly) identifies that a certain usage of C functions has behavior which is not defined by ISO C. But then, to avoid this undefined behavior, the article proposes a solution: replace that usage with platform-specific functions. Unfortunately, th...

Didn't you guys delete his previous answer?
 
8:44 PM
Oh God, what a fool.
 
lol
yeah, it got deleted. Only 10ks can see it.
 
Meh.
So, what should we do with his new, almost identical answer? Downvote it to death?
Leave it as is?
 
Ell
@FredOverflow sorry for long reply
errm It works for me? you have latest graphics drivers? what host os?
 
host os is xubuntu 12.04
 
Ell
sorry what is wrong about it?
you cant see anything? o.O
 
8:49 PM
@classdaknok_t lol, I wonder how many times you have to downvote and delete someone's answers before they get answer banned.
 
With Linux Mint mounted, all I see is a screen with the Linux Mint logo. With Fedora mounted, all I see is a grey screen.
 
It won't be easy in this case since the poster has a 76-point answer.
 
@Mysticial it should be somewhere on meta.
 
@classdaknok_t The formula is a secret to keep people from gaming it.
So no, it's not on meta.
 
8:50 PM
Mar 7 at 0:22, by sehe
@FredOverflow currently a Mint installation is filling my RAM. I'm storing a VM in tmpfs
 
Ell
@FredOverflow hmm - how long does this last? or indefinately?
 
@Ell I terminated after several minutes.
 
@Mysticial in that case…
 
@FredOverflow did you get inspired then? You could always use the spare memory to store 'temp' VMs
 
lol
Suppose Jon Skeet stopped answering questions. How many -10 deleted answers does he have to post before he gets answer banned? lol 10,000? 20,000?
 
8:52 PM
@Mysticial That's sick. You must be on windows. No matter how hard I try, I rarely really fill more than ~2Gb with 'real' applications on linux. The rest is just tmpfs and buffering.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow I'm sorry I really don't know where to proceed from there - I will google it for a while though
 
> This month-old answer, which factually correct in every respect, is suddenly being hit with a string of downvotes. If it is deleted, I will replace it with an equivalent answer which articulates the same points.
 
I know it's some modified ratio of the total number of posts + a ton of other factors.
 
@classdaknok_t ?!
 
@sehe he added that to the top of his answer.
 
8:54 PM
@Ell I am installing proprietary graphics drivers now...
 
Ell
good call :L
 
that + a 1GB ram drive.
 
Why's that purple?
 
It doesn't quite add up to the 6.17 GB that I'm currently using.
And I'm not running any code.
 
8:55 PM
WTF I need to reboot after installing a Linux graphics driver? I feel like a Windows user again :)
 
Ell
haha :L
if only minix was widespread
my miencraft server is the biggest thing, taking 1.2 gb
second biggest opera, taking 400mb
 
wtf?!?! Skype is using 286 MB???
 
I think Kaz should have a good talk with us in the Lounge.
 
Ell
@Mysticial skype is really badly written
 
The reality is, that as much as people may dislike it, Kaz is fundamentally right. There isn't a way to find the size of a file that the C standard guarantees is portable. I'm not really sure exactly how that simple fact is generating so much heat. Ultimately, there's darned little that's guaranteed to be entirely portable in C though. Even a "hello world" isn't guaranteed to be portable.
 
8:58 PM
Really, I think the mixup is about what 'undefined behaviour' applies to: the compiler's behaviour is very welldefined for processing includes. The resulting program obviously can have undefined behaviour (hell, it could even be ill-formed). Usually 'undefined behaviour' refers to the compiler's actions/output. Not the behaviour of the resulting program (although, that of course becomes hard to reason about at the very same time) — sehe 2 mins ago
 
That the standard doesn't define some header file doesn't make including it undefined behavior.
 
@Mysticial you are WCGing?
 
@bamboon yes, just not at 100% or it lags everything
 
@JerryCoffin how are you defining "portable" here? I can't think of how the seek-to-end-of-file isn't portable (for binary mode)
 
And that's my machine at work...
I haven't rebooted FireFox on it in like 3 months.
 
Ell
9:00 PM
is that vista? o.O
 
@Ell Both Win7.
 
Ell
just old skin?
 
@Ell But it's not Win7 Ultimate, so Aero is disabled when you remote desktop into it.
 
@classdaknok_t Technically, he's wrong about that, though not in a way that means much. The standard requires: "A#include directive shall identify a header or source file that can be processed by the implementation." Since that includes the magical "shall", violating it must be diagnosed.
 
@FredOverflow You don't actually need to. But if you want to enjoy the new driver, you might want to restart the X subsystem (sudo restart gdm/sudo restart lightdm)
 
9:02 PM
@MooingDuck As pointed out in the standard, an arbitrary number of NULs may be appended to the end of what you've written to the file (on CP/M, a binary file was always padded an integral number of disk sectors). In reality, even there, it works all right -- you just copy some extra garbage. The standard, however, just says it's not defined.
 
@classdaknok_t cause I got bored of white. :)
 
@Mysticial Skype uses 273M uses 79mb on 64bit linux too
 
0
Q: Measuring read time performance on HDD

Frank Q.Assume we have a HDD with throughput 100MB/sec and seek time = 10ms. How long will it take to read 50MB from the disk. Friends answer: Read Time = Seek Time + 50MB/Throughput = 510ms. My concerns: First of all my understanding is HDD contains platters, platters contains sectors, sectors cont...

Send to SuperUser?
 
@Moshe yaaa I am right here :-)
 
@sehe @Mysticial only 100 MB on Mac OS X! Win!
 
9:04 PM
@Ell My opera clocks in at 800mb currently, which is 4x as big as the next biggest thing
 
Ell
:L
 
@Ell I finally understand why your name is "Ell".
 
Ell
I did too :L
 
Hmm...for me, Photoshop is often the big hog. Somehow, when I ask it to stitch 16 pictures together (at 24 megapixels apiece) it seems to use up a lot of memory...
 
@Mysticial Yeah, there's nothing in the question about programming.
 
9:06 PM
@JerryCoffin interesting, forgot that
 
Ell
photoshop? pffft. GIMP YAY!
 
I corrected the mem usage for Skype: the 273Mb was virtual, only ~80mb reserved
 
GIMP FTW.
 
@Ell Gimp has quite the horrendous UI.
 
@EtiennedeMartel old news. It works really well on multimonitor setups. Also, linux window managers have a tendency to let you handle windows much much more effectively. I got used to i and love it
 
9:09 PM
@ScottW Hoe heet de vrouw van Zwarte Piet? Zeurpiet!
 
@Ell It seems Virtual Box is just incredibly slow on my computer. There are lots of Google hits on Virtual Box being slow for no apparent reason.
 
@sehe Hm. Perhaps my gripe with Gimp's UI is that it's not like PS'.
 
@FredOverflow I don't have any trouble with VirtualBox on my 8GB machine.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow hmm, it's fine for me?
@EtiennedeMartel what is wrong with gimp's UI?
 
@Ell Perhaps I need to work on making my irony a bit more obvious. How many people think any program is going to stitch 16 pictures together (at 24 megapixels apiece) without sucking up a lot of memory?
 
9:11 PM
@Ell It's a clusterfuck. Or at least it was a few years ago when I used it.
 
@JerryCoffin Define "a lot of memory". :)
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin ohh yeah I missed that :L I'm not good with photos... is 24 megapixels high? :P
@EtiennedeMartel a... clusterfuck? :P
 
Though damn... my camera is only 12 megapixels...
 
Fustercluck.
 
Oh. My. God.
That's bad. Also, why did Scott get it, where I asked for it first?
19 mins ago, by sehe
@classdaknok_t ?!
 
9:14 PM
@sehe when did you ask for it?
And yeah it's a pretty bad one. xD
 
Ell
I really love opera - the mouse gestures are a distinguishing feature
 
@Ell 24 million pixels * 16 bits per pixel = 48 megabytes per picture. Turning that into normal RGB pixels roughly triples that as it's normally stored in memory. Multiply that by 16 to get the input size (~2.1 Gigabytes). Then you need about the same (minus ~20% for overlap) to hold the result.
 
Owhatnow.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin wow :L I see the issue now :P
 
Every browser has mouse gestures.
 
Ell
9:16 PM
does it? o.O
 
@ScottW hahaha-merikan
 
@FredOverflow Use native processor architecture for the guest OS, enable hardware accelaration, and things like PAE, VT-x/AMD-V, Nested Paging and similar. Also, install guest additions
 
You can't not use native processor architecture for the guest OS.
VBox is a virtualiser, not emulator.
 
@classdaknok_t Ow. Common. I linked to it!
3 mins ago, by sehe
19 mins ago, by sehe
@classdaknok_t ?!
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus with intels virtualisation you can?
 
9:17 PM
@Mysticial If you really want to see the computer groan, pick up the new Nikon D800 (36 megapixels). If you have lots of spare cash around, try out a Phase One IQ 180 (80 megapixels).
 
@sehe oh I thought it was a response to "This month-old answer, which factually correct in every respect, is suddenly being hit with a string of downvotes. If it is deleted, I will replace it with an equivalent answer which articulates the same points."
 
@CatPlusPlus I didn't say 'different processor family'. I said architecture. Darn sure I can run 32 bit clients on 64 bit host
 
@JerryCoffin 80 megapixels... woah...
 
Ell
whats weird is
you can run x64 on a 32 bit processor using a 32 bit host
how awesome :P
 
@classdaknok_t Hint: you can follow the response by clicking the 'This is a reply to an earlier message' link at the left of responses
 
9:19 PM
@sehe I know.
 
Use It :)
 
The disagreement can be resolved by general reference: you have to crack open the document and study it. If you put in the same diligence into it as I have (on a regular basis, for the better part of the last 20 years), you will come to the same conclusion. You can also request a discussion in a suitable forum of experts such as the Usenet newsgroup comp.std.c. The format of stackoverflow isn't really good for this. [This constitutes my first and last comment. And, by the way, I'm finding the user named "class daknok_t" to be obnoxious, rude and uninformed.] — Kaz 2 mins ago
"I can't be wrong."
 
How suiting it seems that that guy's top answer was: How many levels of pointers can we have?
76
A: How many levels of pointers can we have?

KazActually, C programs commonly make use of infinite pointer indirection. One or two static levels are common. Triple indirection is rare. But infinite is very common. Infinite pointer indirection is achieved with the help of a struct, of course, not with a direct declarator, which would be imposs...

 
His basic reasoning implies that almost every single program has "undefined behavior."
 
Ell
The only complaint about gimps interface is that you cant dock the toolbox
 
9:22 PM
Meh, downvote, ignore.
 
@Ell ...for a suitable definition of "run" -- one that's more like "walk", if not "crawl".
 
@JamesCuster But that's OK, because UB is OK, or something!
We don't need defined behaviour!
 
@JamesCuster The thing is, he thinks we say 'the behaviour of our programs should be defined by the standard', which is as ridiculous as it sounds. The behaviour of the compiler (along with the code it generates) is defined by the standard. Where it is not, the compiler's behaviour is undefined (and may result in programs, nasal demons, or programs that launch nasal demons)
 
@sehe No yeah... seriously, most people actually have to work to get highly upvoted answers...
Not saying that I'm not guilty of that since 3 of my 50+ answers were stupid.
 
Ell
I rarely ask questions on so now - just use the chat
 
9:24 PM
I was really getting at the 'pointers-to-the-extreme' element in that :)
 
We should tell guys from the committee to stop wasting time producing those useless specs.
 
For those who didn't realize it, assuming this Kaz is actually Kaz Kylekhu (which I think likely) he's the one who actually invented the term "nasal demons".
Gotta go for a bit. May be back later.
 
@JerryCoffin "For those who didn't realize it, assuming {A} (which I think likely)..." That's a very strange statement.
 
Wow, he's got pages and pages of zero-score answers.
 
I don't really care who he is.
 
9:26 PM
@Mysticial so do you have 2.5 pages
 
I've got only 5 zero-score answers, two of which are accepted. :D
 
@Mysticial me too. just earlier today, someone downvoted a perfectly okay short answer, from 1 to 0.
 
@JerryCoffin Kax (user)'s webpage is kylheku.com which says " Kaz Kylheku." at the bottom
 
At least he has web design skills, oh wait never mind.
 
@CheersandhthAlf Man I hate that. Getting downvoted on some three year old answer that's perfectly innocuous.
 
9:28 PM
@MooingDuck Though I also have twice as many answers.
 
@CheersandhthAlf Yeah, that's happened to me a few times.
 
@Mysticial and he has twice as many 0s. :D I see your point, I'm just disagreeing with your wording.
 
No, making light orange background and slightly darker orange text on top of it is not really web design skill.
 
@JerryCoffin Wow. I didn't !
 
9:29 PM
@MooingDuck Another way to judge someone is the ratio of answers that are accepted vs. those that aren't.
 
It violates common sense, but then again, we'd already seen it.
 
I have 451 accepted out of 862 = 52.3%.
 
I mean, how can you look at this and go "oh, yeah, that's perfectly readable".
 
@JerryCoffin According to this, Kaz says he didn't come up with the term.
 
9:30 PM
Which has been increasing since I've stopped repwhoring and I only answer things that I can answer well.
 
@Mysticial How do you calculate that?
 
is it --- evil?
 
@GManNickG Search: user:922184 isaccepted:1
or whatever your id is
 
@JamesCuster according to that page, Kaz doesn't recall if he said it first, but he wasn't on usenet. They go on to conclude they think it was him anyway
 
Oh, I should have read further.
 
9:32 PM
Another thing I do to rate "over quality" is to see the distribution of their answers. A good measure is the ratio of Nice Answer badges to total answers.
 
@Mysticial Ah, right. I have 652 / 1,302; 50.07%.
 
@GManNickG I'd say above 40% is good.
And my favorite is rep/answer ratio.
 
I have lowest user ID here!
(Unrelated.)
 
and similarly, votes/answer
Votes/answer is harder because of the repcap. But you can count them in the reputation audit page.
 
@Mysticial 150/515 = 29.1% :(
 
9:35 PM
<3
 
Apparently it was John F. Woods who invented Nasal Demons back in 1992
 
Hi everyone, quick question (I was here yesterday as userxxxxxxxx) - Why does a pointer need to be used when delcaring the following "Obj* obj = new Obj2()" where Obj is the abstract base class of Obj2?
 
> In short, you can't use sizeof() on a structure whose elements haven't been defined, and if you do, demons may fly out of your nose.
 
@MooingDuck Meh, don't worry about it.
 
> OK, OK; so the Standard doesn't ACTUALLY mention demons or noses. Not as such, anyway.
 
9:36 PM
@Noobatron "slicing" If you don't point to the origional, it will "copy" the derived, to a new instance of the base class, losing it's derived-ness.
 
I have 5/9 ;)
 
@Noobatron if you have Animal Fred = Dog(); then it copies that dog as an animal, and you're left with an animal that is not a Dog. It's an Animal object.
 
Ohhh
 
I have 1165 comments.
 
@JerryCoffin Apparently it was John F. Woods who invented Nasal Demons back in 1992
 
So I have:

44015/862 = 51.06 rep/answer
5202/862 = 6.035 votes/answer

I have 3589 uncapped votes. And 1613 capped votes.
 
@MooingDuck that was a nice explanation - so we need to point to the object which is now in the memory address in order to use it?
 
@CatPlusPlus 31.045037166593794 for me. Call me 'patient'.
 
@Noobatron You want a Animal pointer that points at the derived Dog object, yes.
(assuming Animal has virtual members, including destructor)
 
I get Divide by zero error encountered.
 
9:39 PM
thanks a lot @MooingDuck
 
@JamesCuster you have 5/9
 
Yeah, I know. But I can't seem to run any queries on my self and get results.
 
@sehe 2d hardware acceleration does not work here, it says it only works on windows.
 
I also used to use Enlightened badges / Nice Answer Badges as a measure of whether someone is a repwhore. Turns out that wasn't very accurate. As I consistently had a ratio of more than 0.5 - even after I stopped repwhoring.
 
@JamesCuster The data is not from production database, they upload dumps monthly.
 
9:40 PM
@JamesCuster fascinating
 
There hasn't been April update yet, I think.
 
I also have 4307 comments
I don't, however have a life.
Ok ok, I lied :) I have a life
 
I just started answering questions a couple of weeks ago.
 
@FredOverflow It works for me. 3D accelaration even. What version of VBox and what graphics card?
 
9:42 PM
That "2D acceleration" is for Windows guests.
 
@CatPlusPlus Ah. So it 'works' - as-if rule :)
 
@sehe 4.1.12
 
@sehe I have 1958 comments. And I've only been here for 8 months.
 
3D should work, it's OpenGL thingy IIRC.
 
9:44 PM
It says 2D hardware acceleration can only be used for Windows hosts.
 
Direct2D, probably.
 
@Mysticial I started using SO around april 2011. So that'd be in 13 months for me
 
@MooingDuck Sorry, yes, I misspelt it.
 
My account just dates from when I first created one, a few years back, but I never caught on.
 
I think I've registered shortly after it went out of beta.
2008-09-17
 
9:47 PM
@CatPlusPlus ooh, 5 digit ID, beginning with a 1 even!
 
The # of Guru/Great Answer badges is also interesting when you're looking at people with 100k or more.
Some people have a ton of them. Some have well... none.
 
I've registered 9 days before Jon Skeet.
 
Guru and Great Answer badges is mostly a luck thing that really requires thousands of answers to "average" out.
 
I'm like, ancient.
 
I'll admit I'm going from my own memory here, but I'm reasonably certain Kaz talked about nasal demons before James Woods did.
 
9:49 PM
lol, am I the newest regular here?
 
@Mysticial you're newer than I am!
@Mysticial we'll just go through all the user ids newer than you and see how many we recognize then
 
@Mysticial ow, 8-months-old
 
also, who's a "regular"?
 
@MooingDuck As much as the Puppy complains about his stomach, I'm guessing he's pretty irregular (at least at times).
 
@MooingDuck Everyone except for the newbies who ask about PHP in this room.
 
9:51 PM
I'm not a regular, I've been here 1 day ._.
 
I'm a regular
lol
 
And for some reason my thing is still showing as user908041 despite me changing that <_<
 
@Noobatron I'm trying to figure out how you have an "older" ID than Mystical
 
oh maybe not
 
@Noobatron reload the page. I see you as Noobatron
 
9:52 PM
<-- registered for 22 days
 
there we go
I've been registered for ages
Just never used chat until yesterday
 
@Mysticial how does Noobatron, registered months after you, have a smaller ID?
 
lol, I recall when I first discovered the chat
never left since that day
 
@MooingDuck beats me... ask it on meta
 
damnit
 
9:53 PM
I still remember when I first joined SO. I was basically having a repwhore competition with two others who started at roughly the same time.
 
I got second place... :(
 
I only learned about repwhoring when I came to this room
 
Did Noobatron merge accounts?
 
The other two were:
http://stackoverflow.com/users/927034/k-ballo
http://stackoverflow.com/users/938089/rob-w
 
9:54 PM
No James, I just changed my user from the default userxxxxxxx
 
k-ballo beat me to the first Great Answer badge and Guru badges.
Rob W just destroyed both of us in sheer rep.
 
seem kind of random these users
 
SO should stop issuing those default usernames.
 
default usernames suck
 
It's silly.
 
9:55 PM
I hate the numbers in the names
 
@TonyTheLion so just generate random names? Sounds awesome
 
lol, probably not that easy
 
@MooingDuck like Heroku does for sub domains?
 
@MooingDuck ah I see
 
9:56 PM
 
right
 
@MooingDuck yeah, I definiately want my name to be "Viclannan Magesblood".
 
Urist Mcuser123123123
 
GAH! I've been trying to figure out for two days why my code doesn't work. Turns out it works fine and someone else had broke the build >.<
 
9:58 PM
lol
 
If you're going to generate random crap, why not something that sounds managerial, instead of just a user name?
 

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