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16:00
Nah, it's version six full stop period :)
@ScottW (It is worse than closing parens after a smiley though ? :) )
Six shall be the number of the version, not four, not five, six.
@ScottW Don’t you mean 'six that are'?
@ScottW (alternative closing scheme :)
@ScottW Periods are confusing no matter what! Adopt the comma.
16:01
hola senoras
what would the ancient equivalent of SO be?
@edition forums
Legends tell of the expertsexchange.
The cprogramming and qt forums were my jam
@Prismatic Thats what I thought as well.
16:03
hmph, I can't fork my own repo under my own user/org on github :/ I want to clean up a library for use in the jam, but there's branches with all kinds of crap
@LucDanton a fell place of desolation and dismay
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cmon guise vote for best easter egg
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A: Can/should I fork my own github repo?

coreywardYou can't have two repositories with the same name, and forking on Github automatically transfers the name, so that's what keeps that from working. It sounds like you would be well served by adding a branch locally, then pushing to a new Github repository with the new name. You can even keep the ...

dunno if that helps
@melak47 Call a gardener
@ʞɔᴉN hm, yeah I guess
16:14
@ʞɔᴉN "nice one" means "nice one"
hi everyone
ola
nice append sehe :D
I like how the starboard is full of lounge drama + drama resolution + "bitbukakke"
I like it too
16:20
@melak47 Why would you fork your own thing
Just branch
then you'd still see the crap branches :v
guys stop using the term "fork" in a sexual manner that's sexist
spooning a repo sounds worse somehow though
kbok stop flailing your arms around like you're craving for attention
:meta:
16:22
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva you sound bitter lol
@Mr.kbok why? It's sexualist, and animalist. But then again, humanist is a subset of that.
@CatPlusPlus Am I in there?
Mais non pas du tout j'aime la raillerie gratuite et fondée
@ThePhD Dunno
@Mr.kbok and you sound hysterical lol
16:22
Oops... think I've just created a lot of work for myself... I just deployed a fresh linux install over the top of a live server... waits for phone to ring...
@CatPlusPlus I am!
did you get the reference @sehe?
@melak47 Delete the branches. vOv
@ThePhD noo, it's a private repo shared with someone, and I still need them :S
@Mr.kbok nope
16:26
FUCKING FINALLY
I was screwing on my laptop for five consecutive hours
It costed the lifes of some plastic pieces and two screws
@Columbo repairs?
@melak47 Yeah, the enter key on my keyboard was broken3
So I had to replace the keyboard XD
16:28
@R.MartinhoFernandes biicode was declared dead a couple days ago IIRC
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yep
Hmmm apparently it's just the company, not the project itself.
I'd say it's only a matter of time until the project dies too, however. But ICBW.
Their website has "Plans" starting 7 bucks/month.
Wtf do they sell?
Includes per months
(No idea)
16:30
@R.MartinhoFernandes happiness
Oh no, another startup fails!
> As a startup we have made many of the errors a startup typically makes.
Gratz?
that's funny
@R.MartinhoFernandes but another one rises!
because I thought I wanted to wait for it to become a real thing before investing time in looking into, converting stuff etc
@Mr.kbok ok, so where was the reference to that?
Ah. It was also about forking :S
16:34
@melak47 Just make it public. Nobody's gonna give a shit about the dead branches, that's what they are for/
@sehe The infamous tweet that caused the shitstorm
> Not cool.Jokes about forking repo’s in a sexual way and “big” dongles.Right behind me #pycon
@melak47 The problem was that the first time I reassembled it, it didn't turn on. I figured that I forgot to plug that "one" cable back in. So I completely disassembled it, plugged the cable back in, reassembled it only to accidentally let two screws fall into the shoals… so FML
@Columbo :/
You guys haven't seen this? /cc @Mr.kbok
16:36
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva needs to be integrated into chat :p
@melak47 I had much bigger worries, such as WHAT IF I ACCIDENTALLY DISCHARGED MYSELF
play it safe next time
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva not sure if troll
it's not
these people are serious
> slaves / master may be insensitive, use replica / primary instead
16:41
xD
guys
I'm going now
replica and primary are terrible
Hello guys
see you on the morrow for the jam
@Mr.kbok I miss you already
16:41
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva namaste
@Mr.kbok goodbye my love
Have file-sharing project. I'm looking for developer-lawyer to write down privacy policy, etc to prevent future law related problems. Any ideas, where should I start from?
Dunno, finding a lawyer?
Ask the EFF?
Also is developer-lawyer even a thing
16:44
Why does the message about IRC keep getting removed? We get that some of you don't want to use it, but why don't you want others to have that choice?
ask kim dotcom
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@Mr.kbok bye
@TuralAliyev Find a local lawyer who has experience with software law?
people are blowing up on the new jetbrains pricing model
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yeah bcos subscription
It is unacceptable to pay for a tool you use 8 hours a day everyday for profit
16:49
Mmm.
WoW has leaked into software dev.
Kinky.
@Prismatic what's the new one vs the old one?
> boogeyman may be insensitive, use boogey instead
What the fuck.
boogey is not the name of the monster. It's boogeyman.
> he may be insensitive, use they, it
@melak47 new one is subscription based like adobe
> it
It isn't insensitive, nice job alex.
16:57
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva and that link to: google.nl/search?rls=en&q=ableist+sociopathy
how horrifying
> "Sociopath" is ableist and problematic
.... Ableist?
Well, obviously it's problematic... but that's because the person is a sociopath.
If people spent as much time as they spend complaining about pricing shit on reddit and instead just contributed whatever dev resources to qtcreator or kdevelop or vim or other dev tools we'd all be so much better off
16:59
It's bogeyman :p fixed
Pfff.
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva what were you saying about me?
This girl sharing a ride with me asked about my cube and if I was good at math in school and then pulled out this bullshit about different kinds of intelligence and how some people are good at math and others are better at 'social intelligence'. Clearly she's good at neither.
@ʞɔᴉN Nothing, it was just an attempt at getting you to unmute yourself
ah thought so
17:01
You have no way to be sure, though
you're right
lesson learned, don't mute self ever again
@R.MartinhoFernandes to be fair she's kind of right
social skills is a kind of intelligence that people can have
but making the distinction that some are good at A and others are good at B is kind of ... idunno
gotta agree with prism
I think as long as she isn't trying to say there's a relationship between being good at one and being good at the other I agree
17:03
i'm good at neither soo
@Prismatic it's labeling random skills "another kind of intelligence" that seems a bit needy
You gotta wonder why would anyone willingly start a project in C.
Lots of reasons.
It's the only platform that can compile to their target is usually the BIGGEST one.
@sehe From what robot said, it seemed like she was responding to an insecurity or something but I dont think social skills are truly 'random skills'. And knowing how to be social is a form of intelligence
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ it compiles anywhere pretty much?
@Prismatic And C++ doesn't?
17:08
C++ is a fast moving target (now anyway) so not really
plenty of devices out there with old toolchains that won't let you use a bunch of c++ features
Also no go for lots of embedded things
@Prismatic Dumb
It's a lot fucking cheaper than rebuying upgrades every year
The complains I've heard is that its not cheaper unless you're already a customer and that you can't continue using the product if you stop paying
the latter seems like a big deal
@Prismatic nah, she went on about it and clearly meant that there's some mutual exclusivity.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, well then she's wrong.
@Prismatic it's not a form of intelligence. It's correlated with it
17:12
And it's kinda dickish to do so after establishing I'm good at math.
@Prismatic It's cheaper in either case
Upgrades were already cheaper than full product
@R.MartinhoFernandes Implications implications implications.
Which makes sense
@CatPlusPlus Does it eliminate the ability to buy a certain version and then NEVER upgrade?
@sehe Social skills are a form of intelligence.
17:12
Because I do that a lot.
I'm back
and dressed for the night
@Mr.kbok In Pajamas?
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looking dapper @Mr.kbok
@набиячлевэлиь Not feasible.
@Ell dapper?
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17:14
> (of a man) neat and trim in dress and appearance.
OH NEAT new word
@Mr.kbok aka fresh as fuck
very hand some. he is planet
he should be on met art
His hair looks like a spider.
17:16
spiderman returns
Like it's going to try and crawl at me and attack me.
@Mr.kbok is that a robot
aaah finally back from work
@Prismatic no, just lots of foundation and photoshop I guess
no more fucking Macs or Xcode or Swift
17:17
@Puppy Time to Mumble.
time for you to suck my dick
just plain old visual studio
@Puppy If you go on Mumble.
@Mr.kbok Highly preferable.
this is amusing, but the VS C++ debugger has better expression evaluation features than the Xcode one.
17:30
@Prismatic hahaha. I wonder whether you blithely repeating that is a lack of social skills, a lack of intelligence or both
@Puppy @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva would be appalled at your rudeness
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hi sehe
@sehe Just going off of my understanding of the definition of intelligence. Feel free to elaborate instead of taking potshots if you want an actual discussion
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potshots?
i am
SNIPE
кбок has a really french accent
17:34
@Prismatic the ability to be social requires intelligence.
Like a noticeable one
@ʞɔᴉN we noticed :)
@sehe What kind of intelligence does it require
... extraterrestrial, nah gut?
I'm off to go home
goodbye sweet prince
@Prismatic I think maybe we're using the wrong word here and people are just being a bit pedantic
social skills rather than social intelligence perhaps
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17:40
Social intelligence is the capacity to effectively negotiate complex social relationships and environments. Social scientist Ross Honeywill believes social intelligence is an aggregated measure of self- and social-awareness, evolved social beliefs and attitudes, and a capacity and appetite to manage complex social change. Psychologist Nicholas Humphrey believes that it is social intelligence, rather than quantitative intelligence, that defines humans. The original definition by Edward Thorndike in 1920 is "the ability to understand and manage men and women, boys and girls, to act wisely in human...
shit, directx installer installed the big bar
asshole
Oh hey, chat is broken on a new level: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/305331/…
Shocking
Bah... it'll be fixed in 6-8 somethings :)
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Chat will never be fixed.
user1804599
17:47
Every software system has this part that has bugs forever and never gets fixed. For Stack Exchange, that's Chat.
Every software system has this part that has bugs forever and never gets fixed - the most famous being Microsoft Windows? :p
There is no doretta here
Not really
Oh right that
ffs
Haskell room is frozen for inactivity
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They solved all their problems with the magic of haskell and there's nothing left to complain about
17:54
I am so dissapointed in y'all
@Mr.kbok I thought you liked big bars
lol, the bing bar
"install the big bar"
huh, that's how you call it these days
"imma bing you with my bar"
"i'm going to install the big bar now"
@ThePhD Ping me about this sometime. I might want to exchange some ideas because, incidentally, that's (more or less) what I'm currently doing at my job.
@Mr.kbok he he
streaming set up
I need to settle on a toolkit for the jam now
17:57
for the jam?
oh
btw do I get a free teammate this time
you in?
fill the sheet
there's lalaland and nooble looking for mates
I have it view-only
@thecoshman you there?
@Mr.kbok clojurescript or C++
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@ThePhD have you seen glbinding?
18:02
hell of a choice
@BartekBanachewicz D: D: D:
dunno I could do C++
yes, but it's considerably slowing down IMO
I agree it's far from perfect for a jam lang
but otoh
I don't think it really matters that much
@Nooble ping.
Clojure isn't that bad
18:04
I know.
but I don't feel familiar enough with it
and jumping on new tech for jam is the worst idea ever
you want least possible friction
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I agree with this
Or you want to do something new
@BartekBanachewicz Hi.
@CatPlusPlus then you can do it when not time/partner/theme constrained
@Ell I use glad!
18:05
@Nooble what tech you'd like to employ WRT C++/jam
It's great except it doesn't use a namespace :(
Or you can do it regardless
SDL
rip
@BartekBanachewicz I'm using OpenGL and C++.
18:06
"least possible friction"
I can join Nooble Team if we don't use OpenGL
@BartekBanachewicz too late, he's already invested like 300 hours on his rendering engine
what would you use though? I'd probably use my own direct2d wrapper
18:07
write()
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I just noticed this
we could do it 64-k style
with software, manual rendering
@BartekBanachewicz some serious XAML
mmap video RAM and write to it
18:08
can as well map a texture, doesn't matter
@CatPlusPlus Hahaha.
You'll either end up with a game or a new nVIDIA driver for Linux
LCD screens with no protocol (i.e. guess how to write to them)
makes sense
@CatPlusPlus ahahaha
it could have been fun if the game ran low-res and utilized some pixel magic
using the screen as actual data hold
as in, if it had the whole memory used mapped to pixels
18:10
We could do this in a themed jam maybe
actually what about themes this time
I think it would be fun to have a 3d jam but I'm not quite sure people are ready :P
all them OpenGL C++ 3D engines
@BartekBanachewicz No requirement, just try to use the themes we pick up tomorrow
18:11
"start with UE4 first person template and do something fun with it" jam
@CatPlusPlus they already did it
> UE4
> fun
IIRC a boy in Italy was sued for creating a videogame (more or less UE4's template) with a party leader throwing away immigrants from the country
Implement Haskell in Blueprint
@MarcoA. thats hilarious and sad at the same time
Its like that American mayor who got someone arrested for making a parody of him on Twitter
18:16
This reminds me of this.
I am looking through a driver(BNO055) and I keep seeing them typedef with the same name. So on one line I would see typedef uint8_t u8 but on another line I see typedef unsigned char u8. What does this do in C?(Probaly a stupid question but I could only find answers when typedef struct is used multiple times)
@Ell I'm using glload. It was just my observation that saving a function name to a local variable improved the callstack on Visual Shittio 2015.
@Prismatic yeah, some people don't like satire
@BartekBanachewicz I'm just using glload. If you mean, wrapping up OpenGL into a platform-agnostic thingy, uh. Well, that's what I'm doing too but it's notwhere near ready.
How did you get this wrong
the guy seems happy though
18:19
@NoahHuppert uint8_t is the most reliable way of having unsigned 8-bit integers, but some compilers don't have them (they're too old.) so as a fallback the programmer uses unsigned char instead
@NoahHuppert notice the #if (__STDC_VERSION__ == 201112L) , etc.
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using uint8_t = unsigned char;
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@ThePhD wait I just realised, what kind of callstack are you looking for?
@elyse why
@ThePhD what? like const char* func_name = __func__; or something?
@Mr.kbok Maybe I'm not reading the flow of the file correctly but it looks like both of the typedefs could be run. So is it just a fallback?
18:29
@NoahHuppert which ones? which lines?
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I am getting a segfault on throw std::runtime_error("test")
Who wants to join a startup focusing on web services in VBScript 6.0?
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I must be doing something fucky
79 & 186 if on linux
@MarcoA. whole room goes silent
18:36
@Ell Not catching it?
@MarcoA. sign me up!
@AlexM. 75+ years experience or gtfo
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@MarcoA. that goes without saying for VB 6
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@CatPlusPlus eh maybe. but it usually says that the exception has been thrown and its message
It would be cool if IDEs colored namespaces differently
so if you have 5 different namespaces, they are all visibly different
18:41
make a plugin for sublime
@Prismatic my eyes...
put sublime into a sublime plugin
to syntax highlight multiple times
someone starred it so now I have to as well
so that everyone can see your terrible jokes
hello how is cimpoler formed in HQ9 ?? thank you
@BartekBanachewicz send me the email you want to use
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amirite?
18:51
@MarcoA. wayne knight was so good in jurassic park
actually he's good in everything he does
@Prismatic I can only remember him for that role unfortunately, I'll check out some other things he did
newman in seinfeld

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