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8:00 AM
@CatPlusPlus kinda. OTOH I can nicely do some side contracts, if any ever occur
 
@CatPlusPlus yeah, that is a draw back to sole trader
 
without all the fuss
 
@thecoshman They probably just contract the company instead of him directly
 
@CatPlusPlus that's what I'm asking
 
what company
my employer works with me directly
 
8:01 AM
Well I guess you don't have a company in this mode
 
@BartekBanachewicz so you are working for two companies then?
 
It's weird
I hate it
 
@thecoshman ... one of them is myself
 
@CatPlusPlus for the purpose of dodging tax, he does
 
My company is called "Bartek Banachewicz"
ah shit I should've added "Enterprises" at the end :/
 
8:02 AM
@BartekBanachewicz it's still two companies... and "Bartex Banachwiz" should be paying you, and thus you as the person should be paying higher tax for a second income :P
 
@thecoshman It's not an institution
 
I might look into similar for my self, VAT sucks ass
@CatPlusPlus ¬_¬ true...
 
So I don't think you're technically employed by that, you just do business stuff under that name
 
@thecoshman there's no "Second income"
@CatPlusPlus exactly
 
Ltd or bust
 
8:03 AM
BartCat Industries, Ltd.
 
So many industries
All in Factorio
 
Don't you have to pay for and Ltd. to keep open...?
 
dunno it would be funny to do some job as an own company
I mean, like, really doing contracts
basically being your own boss
I can't negotiate/talk with people though, so...
 
@BartekBanachewicz asaik if you want to go doing contract work, you really should do it where they hire your company that you work for, rather than you personally.
 
and running a startup sucks balls. Even if the only thing you're doing is shitty contracts
 
8:05 AM
@thecoshman You just have to have keep capital above minimum, at least here
 
mostly that means you can screw up, the company can get sued to shit, but hey, it's not your money on the line
 
The running expenses is social insurance and stuff for employees, including yourself
 
hmm
there's radio-based internet in my area with guaranteed bandwidth
 
yeah, but if a company was going to contact you personally for X they would normally pay the social crap and give you the remained into your account. as a company, they give the company X who (is supposed to) then sort of social crap
 
"Radio" and "guaranteed" in the same sentence
 
8:08 AM
@BartekBanachewicz AFAIK that shit is very unbalanced.
usually terrible up, but ok down.
 
they also have some wired options
gotta contact them; the max they offer is 50 Mbit but that's still more than shitty orange
 
also consider that your shit is being broadcast to everyone
I wonder if that is the same Orange we had here...
 
@BartekBanachewicz wow. That must be one hell of a radio antenna
 
actually, it was never in Ireland, it was in the UK
 
8:09 AM
here's something interesting.
 
You can also get Satellite internet.
 
inb4 it's not interesting
 
@rubenvb Local access point
 
@rubenvb good lord he's not made of money
is he?
 
Satellites are worse than WiFi
And mobile
Somehow
 
8:10 AM
tis a fair old distnace
 
It's a last resort option, when you're in a fucking jungle and have to check in to bookface or something
 
^
my friend used that for a bridge tournament streaming
 
bridge? as in the granny card game?
 
No, actual bridge
 
@thecoshman nah, it really is. They have 5 redundant skeletal taps, one of them is my unis TASK
 
8:13 AM
@thecoshman No, as in, where you build a bridge out of metal and steel across a 100m river with your bare hands in 30 seconds or less.
 
And/or blow up all of the others
 
and they offer unlimited speeds
nice
 
Is skeletal tap a tap that pours skeletons instead of water
I'd buy that
 
user1804599
why the fuck would you round $2.025 to $2.02 you lose money that way
 
Maybe
 
8:14 AM
@Puppy oh, that sounds fun :D
@BartekBanachewicz ¬_¬ no they don't.... they just can only offer terrible speeds
 
@rightfold You lost more money spending time thinking about that
 
@thecoshman yeah like 100GbE or something
 
@BartekBanachewicz o_0 this is that radio link 'shite' right?
 
user1804599
I have to think about it because the accountant software I'm exporting to rounds correctly unlike Babel's format_currency.
 
8:16 AM
this is a different thing
you can also rent a physical fibre
 
user1804599
rounded = value.amount.quantize(Decimal('0.01'), rounding=decimal.ROUND_HALF_UP)
return format_currency(rounded, value.currency, format=format, locale=locale)
 
user1804599
:{
 
fuck damn you stupid seller on Amazon! Y U NO SHOW BACK?
 
oh welp that was all for businesses, unsurprisingly
 
@BartekBanachewicz do they connect it up for you and everything?
 
8:17 AM
they offer 20Mbps for home users lmao
fuck that
@thecoshman see message above. I doubt it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Good thing you have one then?
 
lol, you can actually buy bandwidth even on home offers
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ja.
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nee.
 
6 PLN for 4Mbps
 
8:18 AM
@BartekBanachewicz how much is a PLN?
 
@thecoshman Right, it sucks, but it's still only double of what you'd pay for a landline: internetbysatellite.eu/index.php/formules
 
1/5th of a beer
 
@thecoshman €1 = 4 PLN
4.00121012 right now
 
@BartekBanachewicz what about ... now?
 
Still that, it's not a fucking buttcoin
 
8:20 AM
... and now?
 
well I could become an ISP
2
 
@BartekBanachewicz BBISP?
BIB?
Banananet
^ that's the winner
 
@rightfold Depends on the context. If it's the price that you're paying
 
8:26 AM
Two hours in. Still at the start.
 
of what?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lololol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You should probably try during the night
 
@CatPlusPlus beh, for 10 users I'd just need an old Catalyst
that doesn't even draw that much power
 
@Puppy hitchhiking to Amsterdam.
 
8:28 AM
There are truckers that are glad of some company
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes of what?
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Good luck.
 
p sure I could find some "hackers" that would like a local hackish ISP
@R.MartinhoFernandes so are you just standing there with a plate
 
how far you got so far?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah that's not trouble at all
 
Ven
8:29 AM
o/, lounge
 
Unless you really want to run full-time ISP
Then it's a terrible idea
I'm wording it badly, but it's probably a terrible idea either way
 
@CatPlusPlus dunno how much money I could make
 
Also you should probably try with near cities. Not just "Amsterdam"
 
@thecosh what do you think "still at the start" means?
 
probably not a lot
 
8:30 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Probably less than operational expenses
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ try going outside dude
 
I can imagine shitty people calling me at 2am to say that the network isn't working
just to find out their PC is shit or something
 
Especially that it's a huge legal liability
 
@BartekBanachewicz you scim a small amount of a lot of people
 
Or you scam a large amount of a lot of people
Call it buttnet
 
8:32 AM
it's already named, Bannananet
 
welp I suppose it could work if I found a few idiots enthusiasts that would know what they're getting into
 
@BartekBanachewicz maybe you could have the contract permit rather low up-time...
 
@CatPlusPlus them secret words
@BartekBanachewicz maybe
like you said, some sort of enthusiast grade thing, with people understand it's grate interwebs, but don't be a dick
 
8:39 AM
Almost
 
oh, you don't wear glasses do you?
 
so how are you different?
oh, no friends of the female sort?
 
In my IRL version of Cat, he does have a "normal" life, with girlfriend and such
 
stop being mean guys
 
8:44 AM
@Jefffrey Lucky for you delusions are treatable
 
@Jefffrey your cat is not the cat
 
He is just fooling us guys
 
Anybody knows a good design for accessing database in C++ ?
 
@CreativeMind not asking in a place of relaxation and swearing
 
Ven
8:47 AM
@CreativeMind sqlpp11 :D
 
@CreativeMind no.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Statistically, indeed it does.
 
I have created handler for different tasks...connection handler which opens and closes connection, then select query handler and update query handlers
 
congratulations.
 
user1804599
@Puppy selling!
 
@sehe Looking at your avatar... were you trying to eat the fish?
@Cinch class Dog extends Animal? I bet nobody else come up with that inheritance example before!
 
8:53 AM
hmm TIL Nexus 6 also has stereo speakers
 
The dog pic is pretty cute, though.
 
OTOH I found out HTC M9 has way superior hardware
 
> I is understand code
lol
 
OTOH Nexus > any other fucking branded androshit
meh phones are expensive fuck that
 
meh phones
 
8:55 AM
@fredoverflow Personally I might roll with something like Kettle : ElectricalDevice
 
crappy screens with crappy physical interface with crappy internet connection.
 
@thecoshman You mean you don't like 1440p on a 5 inch screen?!
 
@MarkGarcia no, I want 1440 in a 25" screen
and a fucking decent computer to run it
and a chair
 
Dammit. Dudes going to Leipzig got a ride.
 
Did they have boobs?
 
8:58 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's relatively close though...
you should try hopping from town to town maybe...
I'd say you have better chances of being picked up for a short trip
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow or class Sphere extends Circle
 
class Literal extends Expression finally, a useful inheritance example!
 
@rightfold class Smiley : public Circle // Bjarne docet
class MagicPill extends Penis
7
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow you're not really doing that for inheriting things.
 
user1804599
Only for the subtyping relationship.
 
9:02 AM
inb4 flag see you all
 
@rightfold Right, and that's by far the most important thing.
That's what I love about Java. You can talk about subtyping with interfaces and defer inheritance for a very long time, because you don't really need it that often.
 
user1804599
In superior languages like Mill you can make a new type a supertype of an existing type.
 
user1804599
In Scala you can also do that.
 
cool
 
user1804599
Every type you introduce is a supertype of Nothing!
 
user1804599
9:04 AM
And A is a supertype of x.type where x: A. :D
 
user1804599
Although you introduce x later than A.
 
Ven
my school wants me to create a "Logger" (in c#) that follows both the Singleton principle and the Chain of Responsibility one.
 
@rightfold you do sound a bit like Puppy now
@Ven go talk to your Manager about it
 
Ven
@AndyProwl we sent an email to the teacher but he hasn't answered yet
I mean, this is pretty much illegal, no?
 
What, not answering?
It's certainly not nice but I wouldn't go as far as calling it illegal
 
Ven
9:07 AM
no, having me create a logger following such patterns
 
Oh that's even less nice but I'm quite sure the law says nothing about it
 
Ven
:(
btw, I realized you're one of the reasons I got into c++, @AndyProwl
I read one of your answer about double variadic templates and thought "this is ridiculously insane. I need to learn it"
 
It's you
You're insane
 
Ven
pretty sure c++ is.
 
@Ven lol no no I don't want to feel responsible for such a thing
 
Ven
9:15 AM
@AndyProwl that's the truth though. You pretty much made me suicidal
 
@Ven Oh god what have I done. I don't even have that much TMP insanity in my answers
 
Ven
@AndyProwl stackoverflow.com/questions/15043527/… is one of my first favorited c++ question
and thus the journey began
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl No, I just know I and am awesome.
 
user1804599
@Ven Here is how I take loggers: template<typename Logger> void f(Logger&& logger);.
 
user1804599
Here's how I log: logger(log_record("Hello, world!"));.
 
Ven
9:23 AM
@rightfold not sure what your point is here
 
user1804599
Anything else is overly complicated and shit.
 
Ven
school crap.
 
user1804599
Tell your school that rightfold disapproves.
 
user1804599
They will immediately change their syllabus.
 
Yeah they'll include "don't listen to rightfold" in there
 
Ven
9:25 AM
:D
 
user1804599
XD
 
Ven
no but seriously tho, don't listen to rightfold
(she said perl6 was bad :[.)
 
user1804599
listen to me
 
user1804599
Perl 6 is bad.
2
 
user1804599
It is, however, beautiful.
 
9:26 AM
@thecoshman Most phones have better internet connection than what puppy had over the years
 
Ven
the opposite of c++? : ^
 
the screens have also better colours and resolution a lot of times than what a lot of people have at home
 
user1804599
Just look at my $powers-of-two = 1 xx * Z+< 0..*;.
 
as for physical interface, it's of course a moot comparison.
 
Ven
9:28 AM
@rightfold map * ** 2, 0..*;
 
user1804599
Perl 5 has much simpler implicit conversions (which includes flattening rules).
 
user1804599
@Ven 1,2,4...*
 
@Ven lol I never really understood that OP
 
Ven
@AndyProwl me neither. but I liked the answer :)
 
he's like "Hey how can I do this thing in C++?" - "Just compile it"
 
9:29 AM
But what does the fox say
 
user1804599
Whenever you don't know how to solve a C++ problem, think: what would Bjarne do?
 
Ven
he'd write papers about it
 
@rightfold Write a book?
 
Use Bjarne_case
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl !!!
 
user1804599
9:30 AM
Bjarnic_ace
 
I swear my boss is going out of his way to hide my value from his bosses
asks for accomplishments for quarterly managers meeting
 
so, somehow 3 hours passed already
 
I start iterating some of my stuff
"I've run out of space on the slides sorry"
 
@Jefffrey lol I thought no one could possibly like that but a colleague suggested using it (he didn't know it's Bjarne_case)
 
9:31 AM
he's like "ok I understand that underscores nicely separate name parts but the first letter should be capital you know"
 
user1804599
EIFFEL_CASE BEST CASE
 
@AndyProwl There's only one case that is worse, Stormtrooper_Case
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow And if it were a male teacher with three young girls then they are victims?
 
user1804599
9:32 AM
Why?
 
> nicccce
(South Park)
 
make another fucking slide then
 
user1804599
 
I see chrome still has the youtube seeking issue
I wonder if it'll ever get fixed
 
user1804599
9:36 AM
 
Ven
lol,no, it's chrome. they'd rather add shiny stupid features like "profiles"
 
(move the slider somewhere randomly, or click those timestamps that people leave in the comments, if you do that ~6+ times the video starts hanging randomly)
 
nice
 
user1804599
albeit in Dutch
 
9:36 AM
@fredoverflow Nice sunglasses!
 
user1804599
bye fred
 
@fredoverflow nice legs ;)
 
enough with the fucking flags
 
The flagger is awake
 
Make flags public FFS
 
9:39 AM
public?
 
user1804599
pubic
 
flags should be public imo
 
cubic
what does "public" mean?
 
people should be able to see who flagged what
 
oh, I see
 
9:40 AM
Not anonymous is what they fail to say properly
 
pubic flag
 
yesterday, by Jefffrey
no, not "pubic", "public"
 
some guy on the SE said that people would not flag out of fear of backlashes but really I doubt any backlash would happen if the flagging reason was serious
imo it would just reserve flags for the most serious offenses
 
Or make them public to owners
 
flagging things like "penis" is not serious
and deserves backlashes from satan
 
9:42 AM
I think flags are ok as anonymous, simply people should be more reasonable using them
 
@CatPlusPlus You'd rather have them public, too?
 
@Pacerier k 🍌 🍌 — Alex M. 1 hour ago
@LightningRacisinObrit he definitely thought I cared
 
Expecting people to be reasonable is the worst strategy for anything ever
 
9:44 AM
@AndyProwl well see what happened
flagging pointless things in the lounge seems to be a new form of trolling
 
@BartekBanachewicz they wouldn't if they were also in a 'swamp'
 
As long as they get away with it
 
that tchrist is an utter wanker
always has been
he's one of the worst on EL&U
 
Wait
Who pays people working at GCC or Clang?
 
In general nobody
 
9:47 AM
So they are masochists?
 
There probably are a lot of full-time people at various companies contributing, like with Linux
Apple pours some money into Clang for sure
 
I mean I'd prefer a useful currency but that'd do I suppose
And I'm not greedy so don't worry about the coffee...
 
Do you need the hug?
 
> I know it's hard
 
coffee? not alcohol? ... what do I do with coffee?
 
9:48 AM
She didn't say that
 
@thecoshman uh
 
@chmod711telkitty Coffee and alcohol are not mutually exclusive
 
glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that
 
@Jefffrey like most 'big' FOSS projects, companies that need this shit to work
 
@CatPlusPlus IMHO not true. They work for Red Hat, Google, IBM, Linaro, etc.
 
9:49 AM
@BartekBanachewicz what?
 
Try reading again
 
@thecoshman That's what she said
 
I hate those unicode things that spread on the whole page and shit
why did they release such a destructive force
 
Someone wrote about feeding seagulls and IRTA "feeding segfaults"... time for a holiday methinks
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'apparently' it's only 129 hours to walk it... might be quicker than waiting for a lift (or boobs)
 
9:50 AM
@LightningRacisinObrit I see, you are a male Jamaican prostitute ... she would give you 5 million Jamaican dollars after she found out how hard you are!
 
How do you wait for boobs
 
so has robot moved from the start yet
 
pretty sure he'll be waiting a long time for boobs.
@Jefffrey You could wait for surgery and/or hormone replacements.
 
I'm pretty sure Robot sees a lot more boobs than you do, Pup
 
Oh I see
I see more boobs than ya'll
on youporn
 
9:52 AM
has to be natural boobs
 
@Jefffrey ... to grow...
@BartekBanachewicz I doubt it
 
also Mrożek's Revolution is a great piece
never fails to make me smile
 
How did he not moved from the start?
 
Oh look, there's even a translation
 
hmph...it's sort of crappy that uintX_t etc. are both in the global namespace and in namespace std :/
 
9:55 AM
One early morning (5AM), I was coming back from a party at some friend's home, fairly drunk, and began hitchhiking, and someone gave me a lift while going to work. It was barely 15 minutes of walking distance.
 
oh bum, I can't recall where exactly it was that @R.MartinhoFernandes live(d/s) I know what station it was near.. as I could never say it right :\
 
so I got a job posting for a Senior Dev position
 
Not to mention that one time that a girl offered me a lift to "wherever I was going", while simply being 10 meters from home.
 
hmm
should I get an interview there
 
9:57 AM
That one was very weird.
 
well, try to get one
I've never managed to get an in-person interview for a senior position yet
not sure if it's already the time
how many years of experience should a senior developer typically have @LightningRacisinObrit
heh, "entry level senior"
 
@BartekBanachewicz go for it
if you get it, great, if not, carry on
 
sounds like corporate masturbation to me
wth is an "entry level senior"
 
@AlexM. that was my joke. I am wondering what the entry level for a senior position is
@thecoshman I don't want a new job
 

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