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4:00 PM
> Bag of Dicks - sent anonymously
I'm gonna mail some to myself :(
because I don't have anyone to mail to
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb Just went searching for a meta post I remembered, to report it. Turns out...
And now it's been replaced by www.searchalleasy.com. Sigh. — Lightning Racis in Obrit 2 days ago
@Jefffrey Not in this form
 
Also it's old news
2 days ago, by Stefano Sanfilippo
hi guys, I just stumbled upon this (www dot searchalleasy dot com (don't click it)), a website which appears to exactly replicate SO contents. WTF??
 
2 days ago, by Lightning Racis in Obrit
And now it's been replaced by www.searchalleasy.com. Sigh. — Lightning Racis in Obrit 1 min ago
 
Oh no a site copying snack overflow
how will we survive
 
It's a security risk, Catherine.
 
4:07 PM
by snacking?
 
XSS - Cross Snack Stealing
 
@LightningRacisinObrit but the churches gave up on equal rights in return
as you can see, churches don't marry same sex churches
 
they don't marry different-sex churches either
seems pretty equal to me
 
Guys, my program deadlocks on GetModuleFileName(). How come
 
@LightningRacisinObrit they're just very clever
 
4:09 PM
@Mr.kbok are you calling that in DllMain or something?
 
No, it seems to be the exe entry point
 
So from WinMain?
 
the tax exempt for churches is pretty silly though
it goes even crazier here
 
@Mr.kbok The module must have been loaded by the current process. <--
 
with schools owned by churches and the state paying rent to them
 
4:11 PM
Is it?
 
that's not tax
it's rent
 
I just know that there are certain functions you can't call from DllMain because some locks are being held and those functions try to acquire them
 
@deW1 dude I can read docs thanks
 
"Hi I have a problem that I cannot solve"
"Here is some information, provided for free on my own time, that might help"
"dude I can read docs thanks" ("I'm not _stupid_")
 
@AndyProwl Yes, but that crazy mfc entry point
 
4:12 PM
@Mr.kbok So it is not your code that calls GetModuleFileName()?
 
@Mr.kbok don't ask if you don't want help
 
IIRC orthodox priests also get both money from the church as well as money from the state or sth
something about them being both state employees and church employees
 
@AndyProwl It is, but called from the GUI thread, I guess.
 
it's complicated shrug
 
just discovered this
 
4:13 PM
@deW1 Sorry, bad mood. The first parameter is null, which means "current module", so it can't not be loaded.
 
@Mr.kbok Not sure I get it
 
sooo
I'm getting a loan for furniture
 
@AndyProwl It's not DllMain. It's not WinMain either, though, or I'm not sure, because I have a hard time understanding how the MFC entry point works.
 
@Quirk discovered what?
 
@Mr.kbok OK so you're writing an Exe right? Not a Dll
 
4:15 PM
Sicovered this room
*discovered
 
And the call is somewhere in a message handler? Or where is your call?
 
@MarcoA. that was only possible after CUDA 4 (or was it 5?) before the was no way to print from device :P
 
I didn't know SO had chatrooms
 
My call stack basically looks like [MFC stuff] -> [AfxWndProc] -> [My Code] -> [GetModuleName]
@AndyProwl Yes.
 
@Mr.kbok Ok, but where are you having your call to GetModuleFileName? Is it a message handler?
 
4:16 PM
@Quirk you can edit your messages
 
:23000612 no. so->chat->rooms
 
if so, what message?
 
@AlexM. thnx. Though using the mouse is cumbersome. Any keyboard shortcuts?
 
the up arrow
 
Yes found all shortcuts here
 
4:18 PM
@Mr.kbok Also, perhaps this may help?
 
So what is the purpose of these rooms? We have SO for questions. Then what else?
 
@AndyProwl Yes.
 
2 mins ago, by Andy Prowl
if so, what message?
 
@Quirk Arguments, mostly
 
@Quirk is your life comprised solely of asking and answering questions?
 
4:20 PM
Sorry my boss is asking a bunch of questions
 
All right
 
@AlexM.
mostly
 
is this guy cicada
 
getting used to is going to take time :P
 
4:22 PM
Everyone has a little bit of cicada in them
 
ᴀɴɪᴍᴇ ɪs ᴅᴜᴍʙ
 
@Jefffrey this room has only one troll
cicada and his clones
 
I can't say exactly what the message is, though it's almost surely the click of a button. I can't debug the mfc dispatch function because I don't have access to this code.
 
@Jefffrey I don't wanna know which bit you have and where
 
4:24 PM
so is ANIME IS DUMB the topic for the room?
 
I bought a game on steam sale ages ago, Tomb Raider (the reboot or something), finally played it last night...the game goes on trying to make out the heroine look vulnerable, having to fight for survival every step of the way...while she MASSACRES an entire island of people.
 
@Nisk haha. I agree
 
Some people just want to see entire islands of people burn
 
the reboot was good though
in terms of graphic benchmarks
good shadows
 
4:26 PM
@Quirk yeah I enjoyed the fluid gameplay and mechanics...graphics were good, but it annoyed me that some of it was optimized for AMD cards
NVIDIA ftw
 
I have an AMD card
infact a full AMD system
@Nisk you must be seething with GTAV optimized for AMD
 
@Quirk is it? D:
 
yep
 
ɢᴛᴀᴠ ɪs ᴅᴜᴍʙ
 
4:27 PM
@AndyProwl Yes, unfortunately, this might be the issue I have. Thanks.
 
@Quirk that's just....shitty
 
@Mr.kbok No problem
 
@Nisk why u do dis :_(
 
"Optimised for AMD" doesn't mean it won't run or will run badly on nVIDIA chips
 
who said it would run bad oon NVIDIA
 
4:28 PM
> genderfluid gameplay
 
i didn't
 
GPU vendors have to do driver optimisations targeting games anyway because gamedevs are terrible
 
true dat
 
Also lol gtav
 
Its a good game
too many PC glitches though
driving in First person is fun. Not NFS good, but fun
 
4:30 PM
@AndyProwl Dude
 
Third Person driving is as good as NFS Rivals
 
@CatPlusPlus but I won't be able to run some swanky physics that are GPU-specific, for Tomb Raider it was hair/cloth simulation or something
 
@CatPlusPlus to be fair, if I new my hardware was going to provide patch to optimize just for me, I'd settle for that :)
 
@orlp wow. that's gr8
 
4:30 PM
oh no not the hair simulation
 
> Parsing files in solution... (0 of 8)
Fuck you, VS.
 
"Microsoft says the language services it built for Visual Studio Code will be available in other editors as well, including Sublime Text, Vi and Atom."
 
Fuck your favorite brand of orange juice.
 
@EtiennedeMartel packaging is too small.
 
Fuck your favorite instance of Etienne
 
4:31 PM
@EtiennedeMartel using Visual Assist X?
 
@orlp hohoho
If it will run R# then fuck VS forever
 
@Quirk Nope.
 
then why the long facce?
 
@CatPlusPlus it should always be fabulous.
 
do literal types like int live in the global namespace?
 
4:32 PM
umm bye. Mom calling for dinner
 
user1804599
lol
 
i am trying to add a swap overload for int
 
Also what do you guys think about Spartan? Is it going to just be a renamed IE to get rid of the bad name?
 
without much luck, adl doesn't find it
 
user1804599
facebook change type attribute of username field from text to email and now you cannot login with your username unless you edit the DOM
 
4:32 PM
do fundamental types participate in adl at all?
 
@gha.st good question
 
@gnzlbg int is a keyword
 
@rightfold lol
 
user1804599
@gha.st they're not defined in a namespace.
 
@LucDanton that settles it then
 
user1804599
4:33 PM
And no.
 
@Jefffrey basically :P
 
sort of; there is the type, too
 
@Nisk not sure of the version but I recall something like that too. I implemented printf on pre-CUDA5 (or more or less the version that allowed it) for retro-compatibility with horrible hacks
 
My intuition is "no" as well - but C++ has hit me with one or two surprises before ;D
 
so no ADL for int
 
4:34 PM
especially due to how stacks are handled
 
thanks guys
 
@gnzlbg Yes, but that’s due to the ADL rules themselves.
 
user1804599
@gha.st Only one or two?
 
user1804599
You must be new to C++.
 
C++11 §3.4.2/2: "[...] If T is a fundamental type, its associated sets of namespaces and classes are both empty. [...]"
 
4:34 PM
^
 
not enough jquery in the previous statements
 
@MarcoA. not bad. Without it debugging was a nightmare.
 
oh I see
that is bad
 
@rightfold After the first few, I stopped expecting things ;)
 
@Nisk yep, pretty much why I did it
 
4:35 PM
@gnzlbg My 'is a keyword' part has more to do with why e.g. ::int is invalid.
 
@rightfold I'm pretty sure everything is defined in what the standard names "namespace".
 
not a great fun of the echo-debugging or printf-debugging, but hey.. it's better than work-or-crash : P
or checking the data by hand..
 
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@Jefffrey No?
 
@gha.st thanks this is definitive
 
Ok
 
4:36 PM
@LucDanton That is ugly.
evil
and i like it.
 
No you don't. You just said it's ugly.
 
@MarcoA. hell yeah. On on linux back then you didn't have fancy Nsight
 
#define int whatever
 
By definition you can't like ugly things.
 
@gha.st Well you could always stretch your legs and write some ::new (&::arena) ::foo :)
 
4:36 PM
Is there only one loader lock?
For every process?
 
user1804599
@gnzlbg UB
 
@Nisk yeah, and sometimes I couldn't rely on that either
 
user1804599
@Mr.kbok define loader lock
 
@MarcoA. does CUDA support tail-recursion?
 
user1804599
You should show code, but not that much code. — rightfold just now
 
4:41 PM
@Nisk uhm I have no idea. Perhaps under dynamic parallelism there's an optimization to pretty much have it
I have no clue
 
@MarcoA. well we had normal recursion since 2.0 capable devices, but I wonder about tail-recursion
man, I haven't touched CUDA in a while, must come back to it
 
@Jefffrey :D
 
user1804599
lol people still using futures in 2015
 
@Nisk uh do it if you need it. Or if you like to write CUDA code, too
 
@rightfold they're called presents now
and people like presents so they still use them
 
4:43 PM
@MarcoA. I do it for the fun, for sure :)
 
@Nisk right, sorry. You know.. when you work too much on something it's hard to keep lovin' it
 
user1804599
andy let's amke software
 
I've been trying to do that the whole day but suckage
 
@MarcoA. haha I get the sentiment, but personally, I'm not like that. There's stuff I hate working on, like web dev, but when it comes to things I like I never get tired/bored of it.
I think a lot of it has to do with what kind of problems you're trying to solve with tech, interesting problems keep the tech interesting.
 
@Nisk I might like the job, if there's some math involved or interesting algorithms I might even like another language (or a high level one)
yeah, /agree on that one
 
4:47 PM
@MarcoA. yeah, I'd love to work with that. It's even fun making benchmarks then.
see how fast you can go :D
im off, laters.
 
@rightfold What gets locked by LdrLockLoaderLock()
 
user1804599
 
I have another thread that's waiting on GetModuleFileName()
 
@Nisk later Nisk
 
user1804599
Delete all your code and the problem is gone.
 
4:55 PM
Here's a third thread blocked by it
@rightfold Yeah but then I have other issues
Like that time when the calculation was faster but the result was always 0
 
who starred that
anime is not dumb
 
> Came here from HN.YC. This is funny! :D lol
HN is to GitHub what 9GAG is to Youtube
 
@rightfold lol
 
every time I watch another brick in the wall (the video for the song) I get all nostalgic-like when I see the classroom scene
reminds me of elementary and the atmosphere in an old school
 
5:05 PM
> the most likely explanation for what you're seeing is that a thread in your process acquired the loader lock, hit an exception while holding the lock and then exited
 
(i.e. the combination of wooden furniture, dark colors, echo and stuff caused by the large rooms etc)
or is it reverb
 
How can you lock the loader lock outside of ntdll? Or maybe ntdll can crash without releasing it?
 
user1804599
I want to make a program in Haskell.
 
No, you don't.
 
user1804599
I do.
 
user1804599
5:08 PM
Jefffrey, how is Snake going?
 
fuck you
 
user1804599
Why?
 
user1804599
That does not answer the question.
 
I'll never finish anything in my life.
 
user1804599
Me neither.
 
5:09 PM
Is it some friend of yours whose name is Snake
 
And by speaking about "snake" you are reminding me of this sad fact.
 
Is the snake jam still on? I haven't submitted mine yet
 
The snake jam is always on
 
5:11 PM
The general suggestion is to go for the top first. :D
 
@Griwes oooh
 
@AlexM. :D
 
romaniaball is private
 
Well this is new Microsoft just launched a new free IDE... that runs on linux and mac
 
5:15 PM
yay yet another node.js text editor
 
@Griwes I like how it says crisps on the bag of chips
/cc @LightningRacisinObrit
 
> Was in fick is soft D
I can relate.
@AlexM. Don't stop looking at that comic until you've read it three times and not found any more easter eggs.
It will take you some time (:D) but it's worth it :D
 
is the yuma thing
a reference to the movie
or to something else
 
yes
 
ah 15 = 3
 
5:19 PM
> Hard D is obviously besser!
:D
 
the problem is
I don't know a lot of the flags
I don't know what flags those are that go "anywhere"
 
Well, go grab a reference :P
 
gonna take some time
cause I only recognized like 3 flags LOL
and obviously two of them were the UK and the US
why the movie reference tho
 
'Tour de France "too French"', tho
:P
 
gonna look at it better when I get home
I like the UK ball tho
reminds me of myself when I get back home
except s/yanks/everyone I meet on my way home/
 
user1804599
5:24 PM
> Develop ASP.NET and Node applications at lightning speed
 
user1804599
lol
 
@AlexM. then you'll also like this
 
user1804599
> Visual Studio Code provides developers with a new choice of developer tool that combines the simplicity and streamlined experience of a code editor with the best of what developers need for their core code-edit-debug cycle.
 
user1804599
Ah, so it's Vim.
 
> simplicity
> vim
There's lots of things you can say about vim, but "simplicity" is not one of them.
 
user1804599
5:25 PM
ed > Visual Studio
 
Possibly.
Note I'm not saying that vim not being simple is a bad thing :P
 
vim is pretty complicated
I like ST because it lets me use the mouse
 
@AlexM. You can use mouse in vim just fine.
 
I have this bar with files on the left and I click on it
 
user1804599
You can use the mouse with Vim just fine.
 
5:27 PM
(Except don't do that when religious vim zealots are near.)
@AlexM. So... NerdTree.
 
user1804599
Unless you're a moron or SSH user and use the crappy terminal edition.
 
@Griwes I tried something like that IIRC
 
@rightfold You can use mouse in vim over ssh or in terminal just fine.
 
back when I was using gvim
 
Just compile it with right options.
gvim = suckage
 
user1804599
5:28 PM
Nice.
 
user1804599
gvim is nice.
 
@Griwes ahahahaha
 
but at the end of the day, I installed like N plugins to make it behave like other editors do
 
that's totes me
 
like Notepad++ or ST
@LightningRacisinObrit you like chips too?
 
5:28 PM
@AlexM. Sure. I have like 20-x plugins installed.
 
@AlexM. yep especially with salt and vinegar and some fish
or with a burger
fuck it i'm hungry now
 
But there's just something beautiful about how you can just use it over ssh.
 
user1804599
I have 27 Vim plugins.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit are you gonna take the bait or should I just go home
 
user1804599
VimClojure            guardian              typescript-vim        vim-go                vim2hs
ack.vim               heroku-colorscheme    vim-apl               vim-mac-classic-theme vydark-vim-color
conway-tools          inkpot                vim-asciidoc          vim-niji              xml.vim
d.vim                 nerdtree              vim-coffee-script     vim-scala
emmet-vim             paredit.vim           vim-colors-github     vim-sol
github                pgsql.vim             vim-elixir            vim-wombat
 
5:29 PM
And *not actually lose any features.
 
@AlexM. cyaz :)
 
@rightfold Where's your CtrlP? :D
 
@LightningRacisinObrit next time
 
user1804599
What is CtrlP?
 
@rightfold Hmm, github? What does that do?
 
5:30 PM
sure
 
user1804599
It's GitHub's colour scheme.
 
@rightfold Oh.
 
I think ctrl+p is the thing I installed to get the goto-anything ST has
I also install VsFileNav on VS for the same reason
bound to 2x ctrl+g
opening a file takes ~2 seconds including typing the partial name
really nice
 
I'd give you my list, but since I'm a noob and don't have my vimrc online and my linux' offline and I'm not exactly home, I can't really do that right now.
 
5:34 PM
not funny
 
Ven
 
LOL :-) - the weirdness of Objective C in Visual Studio http://t.co/N8ANkB6T5j
 
user1804599
> Getting rid of the wasps with explosives
 
user1804599
sounds good.
 
Ven
Also, VSCode, a lighter visual studio for windows/linux/mac : code.visualstudio.com (with intellisense and such)
 

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