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Time to sleep. Bye!
 
also they seem to use unity to develop it
 
Does anybody know if any ARM code generated from a toolchain like GCC is compatible with any ARM device?
 
unity must be a great deal for these kickstarter powered games
pay once, use it forever
no royalties
 
@AlexM. Unity is really powerful but has some limitations on some devices, until recent date companies have been using it due to lack of mobile support.
 
12:12 AM
Hehe. I knew you would come to tackle this problem for real once. Not three months :) — sehe 16 secs ago
 
@VictorLopez thanks for the info
I feel smarter
 
The only way to develop a true cross platform application using C++, native code, avoiding reverse engineering, doing obfuscation, full performance, native graphics and such is to use a native toolchain, Linaro suits well to compile for ARM devices and only linking to static libraries for Android or the device in question.
What I'm not really sure about is GCC for Windows Phone.
Recently, Microsoft's bet was for cross-platform with the usage of LLVM/CLANG for builds within Visual Studio.
Upon that, I think that a GCC/CLANG environment is suitable to cross-compile for all platforms, the issue about networking and threading is solved with ASIO in it's standalone form, this is, no boost, the issue about filesystems is solved with dirent.h since there is no experimental std::filesystem for GCC yet we still have to wait until it is done.
C++11/C++14 offers a good way to use lambda expressions with std::function as event callbacks/delegates, I believe that C++ will be one of the most powerful languages by October 2015 with networking being added on top of the language.
 
I wonder if I should go to sleep or fap first and then go to sleep
 
tmi
 
12:28 AM
imagine that I'm a girl
and it will be fine
see, Scott got it right
 
Alex, get back to where you once belonged.
 
@thecoshman it's a subset of C++11 /cc @BartekBanachewicz
 
@VictorLopez and create another Victor Lopez? no thanks.
bet y'are jealous that my cough habits are more interesting than your tl;dr C++ gibberish
eh? eh? am I right?
 
@AlexM. I was working at Gameloft before it was cool.
 
what does that have to do with anything
lemme dig and find out whose clone this guy is
 
12:36 AM
You don't want to know.
What's left in the standard is Cryptography and image processing. As far as I know, OpenCV works fine for most platforms.
 
fuck if I'll ever understand the concept of clones
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Perl is a family of high-level, general-purpose, interpreted, dynamic, slow crap.
 
so much effort for nothing of value
@рытфолд are you serious about this
isn't Perl that programming language that is really just one huge regular expression
that everyone tries to kill
and nobody uses anymore
 
@MartinJames That describes it very well, agreed.
 
well if you're serious about Perl
the guys at mobygames.com want to upgrade their site
 
12:44 AM
@AlexM. You can contribute to a GUI system I'm developing for cross platform development. Crosswind If that suits you.
 
it's written in Perl lol
they can't find someone crazy enough to learn and write Perl
@VictorLopez why would I do that?
 
@AlexM. Because you love the Open Standards.
 
pretty sure I'm neutral
 
@VictorLopez why are you rolling your own? qt is pretty good
 
to anything that I'm not non-neutral to
@Pris who knows, someone might come up with something better :P
 
12:49 AM
@Pris Because QT is GPL.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm not sure I agree, unless (for example) we define "general purpose" as "not particularly good at much of anything."
 
@VictorLopez yeah gpl sucks. I looked at your repo... it seems like you're trying to do a lot
 
I like how all of his repos don't get anywhere and he's the only contributor
 
most repos are like that. no need to be a negative nancy
 
I'm a negative alex tyvm
 
12:52 AM
@Pris The GUI is already written but I'm stuck with the layouts, Grid Layouts, Group Layouts and such.
 
i have a lot of respect for people that actually complete projects though... its pretty difficult to actually get a finished project out the door
 
it has to do with motivation
dropping a shit project is better than doing it just so you can +1 your completed project counter though
 
@VictorLopez is your gui in opengl?
 
@Pris Not yet, it is inside the plans, for now the GUI uses CImg to render the textures with states and handle the input events. I want to code it in such a way that the GUI core can be switched to OpenGL or DirectX. Once the layout system is done I'll start migrating to OpenGL.
 
'I just haven't eat well because i had seen some youtube video tutorials and i can't solve it.' My heart bleeds for this poor developer...
 
12:59 AM
That's because the subset I'm trying to code should be header-only with minimal dependencies, the only required dependencies as I calculate are the ones for OpenCV and this is because of Android's internal Camera API that changes from version to version. OpenCV is the only framework that enables you with C/C++ camera access.
 
@MartinJames he was searching for tutorials on eating on youtube?
 
isnt CImg GPL-like with its license
 
@AlexM. Yeah.. I don't need no YouTube to know how to eat/drink:)
 
well this is where the most attractive people on SO hang out
largely because im here
[actual file photograph]
 
what the hell am i reading
 
1:07 AM
@Pris CImg grants usage for closed source projects with CeCILL-C
 
So does Qt with LGPL
 
@StackedCrooked the author must've been on drugs
or the worst case of post-ballmer peak
 
my mind was blown when i found out qt was pronounced cute and not "q" "t"
 
1:09 AM
@Pris here's another one
JSON is pronounced "Jason"
WHOA
I just exploded your head
 
that one is just obvious
you'd have to be straight up dumb in the brain if you didn't naturally pronounce JSON "jason" the first time you saw it
the real question is
gif or jif
 
@Pris But CeCILL-C does not force you to deliver the compiled modules.
 
@Pris that's not hard
> British Dictionary definitions for GIF
GIF
/ɡɪf/
 
[jif or, sometimes, gif]
 
following the @LightnessRacesinOrbit axiom for the proper usage of English, we'll use what I quoted above
not what you quoted
 
1:12 AM
LGPL specifies that you should enable the user with an option to upgrade the module in question if doing static linking.
 
@Pris I do pronounce "Qt" as "kyu-tee". Also, the namespace std as that of the disease.
Good morning.
 
I also say q-t
and not cute
I feel less like a creep while doing so
 
@MarkGarcia its officially pronounced 'cute' though. I used to pronounce 'std' 'ess tee dee' but then I saw cppcon. Herb Sutter pronounces it 'stud' so thats what i do now
he also pronounces 'nullptr' 'null putter'
 
@Pris You conformist!
 
Not saying cute is the same as stating that Hello Kitty is a cat.
 
1:14 AM
@Pris Of course "Sutter".
 
I named the lib im working on right now 'ks'... the only official pronounciation rule is that there is no official pronounciation... 'kay ess', 'kiss', 'case' are all valid
 
I named the game I'm working on "trolls in the hamlet"
because the action takes place in a hamlet
and there's trolls in it
 
@Pris Keep it stupid, simple ;)
3
 
@Pris The real question (for those old enough to remember it) is how to pronounce "SCSI".
 
Mebbe I should goto bed.
 
Ell
1:16 AM
Scuzzi
 
@AlexM. lol
 
lol dat lightning star and unstar @JerryCoffin
someone wanted to star but then felt old
 
@AlexM. Or got hit by scrolling.
 
@MartinJames Good night.
 
@AlexM. No, it wasn't me.
 
1:17 AM
@JerryCoffin it's much less dramatic that way
@MartinJames yeah, sure, like I'm gonna believe you...
 
@Ell That's how most of the world said it, but Apple had a different idea. Bet you can't guess what it was.
 
grandpa
 
@MartinJames G'night.
 
@JerryCoffin iSCSI?
 
Ell
Siksee
 
1:18 AM
@DonLarynx it's very appropriate
 
Ell
Thats just a guess
 
@JerryCoffin I pronounce all four letters. Essee essi
 
it was sexy you guys
 
@AlexM. There you go!
 
jesus where are your apple dirty minds at
 
1:19 AM
@AMostMajestuousCapybara Me too. Well I almost always do on most computer acronyms.
 
@AlexM. it's funny
 
@JerryCoffin I read about it somewhere
I'm not old, I swear
honest
 
@AlexM. TDWTF I guess.
 
@MarkGarcia For me the general rule is "are there enough vowels in this acronym for it to be pronounced in a sensible way?" ? "pronounce as word" : "pronounce as letters"
 
I can't remember where I first read about it though
it was probably not a book, or maybe it was
 
1:22 AM
@AlexM. That really narrows it down.
 
@AlexM. I imagine the book mentioning "SCSI" and you just assumed it is read as "sexy". ;)
 
I keep on going back to this one but I doubt something as silly as Apple's idea of pronouncing that was mentioned by any of the programmers
great book, until it shapeshifts
from a story about what those famous guys programmed
to a story about what those famous guys liked to do and how their lives were
about which of course I don't give a shit
 
Amazon sent me an email with a book suggestion: a swift programming book
T_T what did i do to deserve this?
 
> Coders at Work: Reflections on the Craft of Programming
yeah the craft of programming
90% of one of the chapters is just one guy babbling about what he likes to do
and nothing about actual programming
can't remember which one was the star
 
i wanna learn objc, swift and metal and be an ios rockstar programmer that charges $80/hr for app dev consultancy
 
1:27 AM
@AlexM. I love that book.
 
I don't
 
@Borgleader Thou hast sinned my son. Thou must sacrifice two virgins, or this punishment will continue to be visited upon thee, and thine until the seventh generation (well, if you can find a chick that'll let you knock her up anyway).
 
is a book I love
it's what every guy interviewed in the first book should have done, to some extent
"Oh hey here is how I program and what I've learned throughout my life as a programmer."
 
I haven't checked that one out yet
I'll add it to the list
 
1:31 AM
what might cause a function call to call the wrong function?
 
@caps Memory corruption?
 
@AlexM. Interesting
 
@JerryCoffin That's what I was thinking.
 
@JerryCoffin Thou... thou hast.... Thou hast sinned
 
@caps Polymorphism.
 
1:32 AM
@VictorLopez Nope. Free functions. They operate on the same classes but are otherwise unrelated.
 
@caps hmm, check here for inspiration :P
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Q: Call a method without calling it

Alex M.Inspired by a now deleted StackOverflow question. Can you come up with a way to get a particular method executed, without explicitly calling it? The more indirect it is, the better. Here's what I mean, exactly (C used just for exemplification, all languages accepted): // Call this. void the_fu...

 
@Borgleader Nay, not I.
 
I really liked the puts example
nobody I showed the example to was able to tell what happened
it makes for a nice "hey here's an interesting trick" talk
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah. I think that's it. I don't know why, though...
 
1:37 AM
@caps Free functions? I knew that the linker will deliver errors if you call functions with the same name but I'm unaware of Free functions. I guess it has to do with external linkage.
 
@VictorLopez Huh. They are defined in the same .h and .cpp files
@VictorLopez But they have distinctly different names.
The other interesting thing is that... I commented the "wrong" function out and recompiled.
Then it happened with a different "wrong" function with the same signature and return type.
At the same place it was happening before.
I'm wondering if it is my compiler not getting along with boost::bind and boost::filter_iterator
 
@caps Are you talking about this? code
 
@Borgleader I like this one
so nice
 
@VictorLopez Nothing static. I'll be back.
No member functions.
I'll throw something together.
an example
 
1:44 AM
@caps Does start to sound like a possibility.
 
JS is so soft-typed it's scary
 
@JerryCoffin For I sec I thought you were @ScottW and your reply was funny.
 
I may learn JavaScript :o :o
 
try AngularJS
learn JS while using AngularJS and its concepts
you'll get out of it with something useful
I don't do web apps
but if I had to
I'd do them with AngularJS only
 
I know nothing web based.
 
1:57 AM
TreeFrog looks great, same for the well known POCO
@AlexM. Javascript is only a layer on top of the C/C++ language that gets executed by the internal JS interpreter that each browser has embedded.
 
ok
 
Poco is pretty good.
 
the other one has a nasty spelling mistake right in the subtitle
or maybe it's not a mistake
 
> High-speed C++ MVC Framework for Web Application
maybe the framework is intended to be web applied
@StackedCrooked don't wear shirts!
I do that
 
2:04 AM
I always wear T-shirts.
 
me too
under something else
so I don't need to iron them
 
user3010322
@StackedCrooked That was crazy.
 
user3010322
My brain can't even wrap all around that.
 
by the time I'm too hot
 
oh brain
 
2:05 AM
they're already nice and "ironed"
because I'm fat :A
 
@ThePhD I admire you attempted to read it :)
 
There's more. NodeJS is a server-side implementation for Javascript, it was written in C using libuv. Javascript is used since it is easy to learn but you still need to stay close to good programming practices.
 
@StackedCrooked I almost never wear any shirt when I'm sleeping.
 
@AlexM. lol
 
I wear tshirts while sleeping
 
2:05 AM
Me too..
 
@VictorLopez "Javascript" and "good programming practices" in the same sentence?
 
@Blob pretty sure he's trolling atm
 
@Blob Yes. Microsoft bets for TypeScript.
 
@AlexM. I haven't tried once sleeping without wearing a shirt.
 
JavaScript is my third best langauge.
 
2:08 AM
In these times, JS is the new ASM.
 
@MarkGarcia ASM makes logical sense. JS does not.
 
It depends in what you want to achieve, JS can be really readable if used properly async.
 
I think I'm too retarded to tell the difference between AngularJS and JS, is there any syntax difference?
 
lol
 
2:10 AM
@DonLarynx what?
 
Most of the things I've been learning are actually simple, e.g. operator overloading and JSON
 
AngularJS is a library
 
@AlexM. Does AngularJS and JS have the same language rules?
oh
awk
 
what I was suggesting
was that when you want to learn a new language
 
Redirector Try some code.
 
2:11 AM
you should try the tech people wrote for it
preferably tech that you haven't seen before
because there's no point in you learning JS
 
@DonLarynx Don't believe in what they say about jQuery though. jQuery is a language.
 
if you're going to do the same shit you were doing in other languages in it
 
over and over again
 
nice song, and animation!
 
2:15 AM
@DonLarynx I totally made that suggestion up btw
but it sounds like it makes sense
the kind of stuff that you'd read in programming books
 
It was coded to be used for a real-time station-server-device schema but I decided to go onto C++ since WebRTC does not provide you with a full RT stack of resources to build your own applications.
 
so I'll call it Alex M's golden rule for learning a new programming language
that is, finding out what people did with and for it as soon as possible
so you don't end up writing C++ in every other language
man I'm good at this
 
@AlexM. ok Alex.
 
Most programmers don't want to rely on CEF or any other browser-embedding tool.
 
I wonder if I could come up with stuff enough to form a book
I'm sure people would buy it
I mean noobs don't know that anyone can write a book
 
2:20 AM
I know a guy that is not a programmer who wrote a programming book.
 
There is a reason for everything. If you want to move forward writing a book you may want to cover most aspects in programming in order to deliver a good reading.
 
@AlexM. If only there were a giant, world-wide network to interconnect computers, so we could warn each other about things like books written by Schildts incompetent authors...
 
@StackedCrooked looks interesting, much more interesting than Coders at Work, which was the opposite
guys being programmers who wrote a book not about programming
@StackedCrooked did he make any money?
 
not sure
 
2:23 AM
it looks like something that would sell
 
I haven't seen him in 3 years
 
he's probably covered in hot chicks in Hawaii
drinking cocktails
 
I did receive a review request from his boss back then
 
> 5.0 out of 5 stars My son programmed a whole game with this
Excellent book that he enjoyed and used every page of it. He read it in a few days and didn't have any problems or questions for his dad.
one happy parent
one misguided offspring
 
2:25 AM
it's a good trade
 
@AlexM. From what Scott says (at least as well as I remember it), you mostly don't make money by selling books. You write books to build enough reputation to be able to make money giving lectures and such.
 
@JerryCoffin Same goes for music and concerts no?
 
@JerryCoffin I always wondered just how much companies pay consultants and stuff
I think they're called consultants
I'm not sure
 
@AlexM. I think about $1000 for a one-day session. I could be very wrong though.
 
@JerryCoffin I've always wondered how Scott earns his living. I guess most of it comes from consultancy.
 
2:27 AM
@StackedCrooked that seems low to me, hmm
 
Ok. $10000 then.
 
that's better
$10k for Scott's hair is appropriate
 
we're cool
 
Ajax is pretty cool.
down the rabbit hole of web development
 
I use it all the time to clean my dishes
Ajax FTW
 
2:28 AM
@AlexM. lol I don't think there's been a day where you haven't said something funny.
 
@DonLarynx s/funny/that I found funny/ :P
 
yeah I was going to say "at least I'm amusing for someone"
 
That will be written on your grave stone.
 
@DonLarynx are you female?
 
@AlexM. are you female?
 
2:33 AM
I asked first!
 
@MarkGarcia I think you're right. Schildt may be able to earn money as an author (lots of books, virtually no effort) but for authors of actual technical books, I'm pretty sure writing pays fairly poorly.
 
Unless if you are a judge.
Your writings will make lots of money then.
 
@AlexM. 'Don' sounds like a masculine name.
So is 'Nooble'.
 
well
I always fail my saves vs males when trying to seem funny
:\
 
Quick, make a joke that everyone will laugh at!
 
2:40 AM
@AlexM. That's about as sensible as Perl code.
 
@Nooble "I can make everyone laugh."
 
@AlexM. Hahahahaha, tell another one!
 
there was this game about comedy and laughing except that there was no comedy and laughing in it
Cherry Tree High Comedy Club is an adventure game developed by the Dōjin circle 773 and published by Capcom. The game follows 17-year-old Miley Verisse as she recruits fellow students for her comedy club. The player controls Miley as she meets new people, tries to finish her homework each day, and levels up her conversation topics. The game was released in the United States on November 8, 2012, with an English translation produced by Nyu Media. The game is rated 12 by PEGI, and T by the ESRB. == References == == Further reading == Ciolek, Todd (May 8, 2012). "Cherry Tree High Comedy Club PC"....
the game's tagline was something cheesy like "Laugh and the world laughs with you"
of course nobody laughed in that game
@Nooble I'm exhausted
 
@Mysticial Have you considered using Intel motherboards? (the motherboards themselves, not the chipset)
 
I'm off to sleep, it ended up being 5AM without me noticing it
well crap
 
2:49 AM
@AlexM. Sleep well.
 
@AlexM. Night.
 
@AlexM. Don't get any ideas.
Learning web development the right way: Wikipedia.
 
Does somebody know about OC ReMix? Ninja Gaiden 'Basilisk Run' They were so good enough to get their tracks into Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
 
Heisenberg, Schrodinger and Ohm are in a car. They get pulled over. Heisenberg is driving and the cop asks him "Do you know how fast you were going?" "No, but I know exactly where I am" Heisenberg replies. The cop says "You were doing 55 in a 35." Heisenberg throws up his hands and shouts "Great! Now I'm lost!" The cop thinks this is suspicious and orders him to pop open the trunk. He checks it out and says "Do you know you have a dead cat back here?" "We do now, asshole!" shouts Schrodinger.
The cop moves to arrest them. Ohm resists.
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(Stolen from reddit.)
 
A comment on a review article of a micro-ATX case: "[...] Being able to fit a Micro ATX board in there is great, especially considering the case is relatively small. [...]"
 
@StackedCrooked That's profound.
 
A horse walks into a bar.
A monkey also walks into a bar.
A llama walks into a bank.
The year is 3085 and all traces of humanity are long gone.
 
> update salad.md
>mfw
 
what face?
WHAT FACE???
ANSWER ME
 
( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
 
That's a nice smiley actually.
I'm not angry at you anymore.
> (>ლ) ᶠᶸᶜᵏ ᵧₒᵤ
lol
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara First time I've seen that Lenny.
 
3:23 AM
NgrE lNE
 
@MarkGarcia Oh hi mark.
 
@Jefffrey Hello Jefff.
 
I did not hit her, it's not true! It's bullshit! I did not hit her! I did not!
that movie is just genius
 
Somebody knows about a good resource from where to learn std::regex? ^* and other regex patterns.
 
3:30 AM
@VictorLopez Do you know regex? :P
 
@MarkGarcia I find it hard to understand.
"Some people, when confronted with a problem, think
“I know, I'll use regular expressions.” Now they have two problems."
 
3:46 AM
RegexOne This one is good.
 
I will get a Jolla.
 
COME ON TARS
2
Q: How does this bool variable work exactly?

Haru HaruI am new to programming, so please forgive me if my question is too basic. For the following code, I don't know how exactly the bool variable "more" works. It says that while loop will do the content of the loop whenever the "more" is true, but how does the computer know that the more is true?...

even Puppy's not this fucking dumb
6 days until Vladageddon btw
 
offset by: "I am new to programming"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol you're tracking?
 

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