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@jalf as opposed to the feel on the tongue
> the only drone that can do the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.
lel
guys
I need to motivate myself to hobby coding
I have less and less willpower to sit to it every day
I feel like I'm losing the point of all that
 
welcome to full time coding as a job
 
@TonyTheLion yes Tony it's absolutely like I weren't doing that for the last few years of my life
 
@BartekBanachewicz You were at Uni no?
 
12:05 PM
@TonyTheLion well yeah
but I was coding for uni too
 
yea but you also had the time to nap in between while listening to your professor ramble on about the intricacies of Java
:P
 
I didn't attend lectures
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz why not?
weren't you paying to be there?
 
I would motivate you to code in your free time, but I can not even motivate myself to do it
 
12:07 PM
@Ell not really. Education is free in Poland
 
user1804599
So many men; so little time.
 
user1804599
He was a modest, good-humored boy. It was Oxford that made him insufferable.
 
[sigh], wall of code linked-list Q: 'I've never used the debugger, I'll try to study how it works.'
 
fucking horrible period I want to go back in time
 
user1804599
The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep.
 
12:08 PM
@Ell And while I technically paid for some repetitions, I still consider it a waste of time to go to lectures
 
@AndyProwl You are female?
 
So I just consider it as paying for the final exam
 
@AndyProwl ... period?
 
lol
period of life or something
 
user1804599
It takes less time to do a thing right than it does to explain why you did it wrong.
 
12:08 PM
@TonyTheLion This week I've been just playing lol
day after day
one part of that is Jeff fucking me over and not having time to work together when he said he will, but I can't really blame him
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz won't they let you just take the exams?
 
close friends dead recently or are dying it scares the fuck out of me
 
fucking diseases stupid universe
 
@MartinJames At least he shows some motivation there
 
Ell
12:10 PM
@AndyProwl My condolences.
 
Thank you
 
@Rerito Yeah, so no downClosevote from me, this time:)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit spotify:album:1CYbfgLqvJoYxRyPWKrYU4
Many Scala.js users would say that it has been production-ready for quite some time already. Possibly
well
Many Scala users would also say that it has been production-ready for quite some time already.
 
Ell
I was gonna try scala js
I like scala
 
@Ell I've heard it's a bit quirky
I haven't tried it really, but I suspect it's similar to F#, i.e. would annoy the hell out of me
FP is way more natural if everything is referentially transparent and immutable
and mutability is only introduced in a very controlled and explicit manner
#opinions
 
12:29 PM
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Q: Operator overloading, operator+ vs opereator+=

Filip9719I was reading through some c++ source code, and i came over some syntax. path& path::operator+=(string postPath) and i was wondering whether it is actual syntax and why c++ is not using the already existing operator+ instead combined with applying the value to the object in question. Is it l...

@thecoshman Where will we be meeting in June?
 
@Columbo In a bar. Somewhere in London, UK.
 
Oh, and one more thing: you can certainly think of a Folder as a FileSystem. It is fine. Nothing wrong with it. Your notion that this is a bad design is subjective, and wrong. — Mike Nakis 20 secs ago
...
I'm wrong because I'm wrong.
 
Can you imagine the devastation if OP were to realize you were right?
Couldn't possibly happen
OP would be destroyed
 
@BartekBanachewicz the distinction is relevant only in (very) specific situations, methinks
This design is broken anyway. — Bartek Banachewicz 9 mins ago
 
@sehe Doesn't change the fact that a member of derived type without CRTP is at least questionable.
 
12:38 PM
Also, this doesn't sollicit any resistance, at all :/
@BartekBanachewicz Oh yeah. That's something else.
 
@TonyTheLion If OP's can be destroyed so easily, how can we arrange for Bartek to be right more often?
 
A filesystem at most contains folders, but I wouldn't say it is a folder
 
Woo actual decent food
 
@MartinJames Gotta make a deal with Bartek
:)
 
@TonyTheLion OK, scratch that plan:(
 
user1804599
12:40 PM
@Columbo ugh those comments
 
@BartekBanachewicz Do you know if the OP was asked to do this design for some reason? So stop it trying to guess what is happening and make your suggestions in the the comments of the post. — dariogriffo 23 secs ago
right, blindly follow the suspected requirements and write shitty answers
 
OK, I gotta go look now..
 
first time I had to hunt for other people's changes in a repo and managed to spot a critical bug
go me
 
the guy's just mad because he lost TOTAL WHOLE of 2 REP
 
@TonyTheLion Could be seen like that
Not that it makes that class hierarchy make sense
 
12:42 PM
yea
 
@BartekBanachewicz huh. answering the question is not "blindly following anything suspected". It's not wasting energy thinking of what else could be wrong :)
 
I made myself schnitzels
brb renaming myself to Chef Plus Plus
 
@CatPlusPlus gratz
 
Chill up :)
 
Oh.. it's the old 'how do I declare a MyClass instance inside MyClass'. Boring..
 
12:43 PM
@sehe if people solved my problems on SO that way I'd be way worse at programming and life
this site is so valuable precisely because people go out of their way
cue this one guy called @sehe who writes whitepapers instead of answers
 
@CatPlusPlus what's the whole deal with you cooking now?
finally got tired of buying prepared food?
 
I need a hobby
Programming sucks
 
IT'S NOT WEDNESDAY
 
Also someone has to make the ultimate tortilla
 
I'm starting to recover from dying.
 
12:46 PM
@CatPlusPlus So spicy you shit yourself at the first bite?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I KNOW RIGHT
I thought it's wednesday today too
 
So spicy you go back in time and retroactively shit yourself throughout your life
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes What happened?
 
HERE, IT'S THURSDAY.
 
Oh hey it is Thursday
Who knew
 
12:47 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's been Wednesday the last twenty times I woke up, man.
 
so nice
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Got a flu or something?
 
2 days ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I spent the whole day trying to sleep with a really bad cold. Fever, cold sweats, muscle pain, and dry coughs.
 
@Xeo It'll be one of the usual robot things - travelled 1000km to a meeting on the wrong day.
 
It feels like it's May or something.
 
12:48 PM
That could be flu
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ouch
 
Xeo
Oh. And feeling better now?
 
Colds aren't usually disabling
 
@CatPlusPlus No, sounds so influenza-ish:(
 
That's what I said! Twice!
 
12:49 PM
@CatPlusPlus Mathematics!
 
Nobody pays attention to me waaaaah
 
I've just realized that if I used my whole rep for downvoting I could bring a 30k user to 1 rep
 
@AndyProwl hgahahafahahahshashashsahas o
no
 
@CatPlusPlus play games
 
@CatPlusPlus write good programs instead
 
12:51 PM
Colds are great - you feel a bit bad and sneeze continually. You turn up at work and everyone, including your boss, sends you back home. Goto bar. Profit.
 
@CatPlusPlus I need a hobby too, glad you found something, I'm still looking
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, that.
 
my life is a work -> play games -> repeat; routine
I don't get bored
 
fuck you guys I really need motivation to code
not "I play games all the time and I'm fine"
 
Hahaha fuck programming
 
12:51 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Being alive!
 
I code for work that's enough
 
@CatPlusPlus until I land a Haskell job that won't be enough
 
What kind of hobby are you looking for?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You know that some developers are zombies/vampires, right?
 
There's plenty of options also depending on budget
 
12:52 PM
@MartinJames help vampires, you mean
 
@AlexM. That, and the other deadbeats.
 
@TonyTheLion With cooking you get to not do computer shit and also get food in the end!
 
Cooking's a good hobby
 
Also you can pretend to be playing Factorio but with food
GOTTA OPTIMISE THROUGHPUT
 
You can be creative and it's a skill you can take advantage of
 
12:54 PM
@CatPlusPlus SHIT FASTER
 
White pepper in cucumber salad is insidious
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes! I do enjoy cooking. There's a separate room for it, with only little, embedded controllers that don't need much effort to program.
 
What's annoying is instructions that always fucking assume gas stove
How much power is fucking 'tiny fire'
 
maybe I could post my state hoisting post on redddit
hmm redddit doesn't ring as nicely as rubby
maybe redit
Yeah redit it is.
 
baddit
 
12:56 PM
that's nice too
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That... sounds good
 
@BartekBanachewicz ok
 
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Q: How to convey my innocence?

JoeI have a remote client that I'm contracted for adding new features to their training website. Half way through the project, my client notified me that some data was missing for a two month period (I was contracted during this period.) The client in question has very strict security policies. I am...

dat title
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz you need vision
 
@Ell my vision is that people could actually use the thing I want to make
 
Ell
1:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz lol do it
 
but then again
> Haskell is a particularly hard language to learn, because the code you’re writing after 20 hours of study looks nothing like production code, which at that point is still largely inscrutable. You have to work your way up the abstraction ladder until you hit monads and the bind operator, which for me was about 50-60 hours.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm responding because you don't. Yet you berate things in comments :) I'm saying you could get less worked up and also anticipate resistance if all you say is "It's broken anyway!"
 
That's why the attitude of "Haskell's a totally impractical academic language" isn't very helpful
 
@BartekBanachewicz Some questions don't warrant it
 
@sehe well
 
1:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Not if you want to do something, no :)
 
i would like to call a function on every function entry/exit and tried a couple of things already, does anyone here have done anything similar before?
 
@gnzlbg AOP
 
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Q: Is this 90 year old mummy "not dead, just meditating"

CoomieHere is a news headline so unusual it can't be true: Buddhists claim mummified monk is 'not dead, just meditating' Senior Buddhists say a mummified monk found preserved in Mongolia last week is actually in a deep meditative trance and not dead. Some attribute this fact to cold weath...

 
(only half of a ba dum tschh)
 
> In each domain, the tools that eventually get built in Haskell will become too powerful too resist.
 
1:06 PM
Does the function call itself upon entering the function?
 
@LucDanton lol, beat me.
 
@LucDanton gcc offers -finstrument-functions which can be set on TU basis and [[no_instrument_function]] attribute. So no, because that make no sense, and yes, it would be nice if i can disable it per function/file/path/...
 
Ell
I just realised Haskell is the One Ring and @BartekBanachewicz is Gollum
2
 
@Columbo ... London...
 
@Ell it doesn't form a group
 
Ell
1:08 PM
Just kidding. I think it's a funny parallel though :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Of course it's not dead - it posted 6 questions on jQuery already.
 
we'll see when people are booked what we can sort out
 
> I liked using Haskell. I’m going to try it for some small projects and see how that goes, and then hopefully start using it for bigger projects. I think the language will continue to grow, but it could grow a lot faster with better documentation practices. Right now, it’s a very hard language for beginners to approach.
do you agree with that?
 
Funny thing is, I already answered that the other day. Seems OP upgraded the coment to a question anyways... — sehe 10 secs ago
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz me?
 
1:09 PM
@Ell the general lounge public
 
Ell
I'm not sure
I found it hard to approach, but as soon as I actually put some effort in it wasn't any more difficult than when I started learning c++
 
is this TLJ
 
on what? o.O
 
1:11 PM
the journey to there would be long indeed
since it's an imaginary world
 
on wtf "TLJ" is
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit uh The Longest Journey
 
The Lost Javascript
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you should check out TLJ btw
the main character is hot
 
The Last Jerk
 
1:14 PM
what is it
 
an adventure game
you play as a chick
 
@BartekBanachewicz with what part?
 
and right at the start of dreamfall (the sequel) you're in pantsu in your room
very nice game
GOTY for sure
 
@thecoshman the quote in general
@iamdevloper @amaboura Personally I think FastCar could be even better as a HTML, CSS, JS and PHP framework rolled into one.
 
@BartekBanachewicz then no.
 
1:17 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I agree with being hard for beginners, although awesomeness compensates for hardness
 
I don't know why I bother. Some whore got rep for explaining the UB on 'printf("%d\t%d\t%d\n",a,a++,++a);'
 
o_0 the starboard currently reads like a fairly logical set of senteces
the general lounge public
just realised Haskell is the One Ring and @BartekBanachewicz is Gollum
and the body is amazing
I'm such an asshole
inb4 jalf berating you for 6 hours on your sexism
I had this wonderful idea.
I CAN READ GOD DAMN IT!
 
@thecoshman lol..
 
only stupid LRIO post that spoils it's perfection
 
an old friend of mine just posted this
yes, it's my university building.
 
1:23 PM
he seems to be pointing at the open window with the light
guess there's something to see there
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz that looks nice
 
you know, the fact uni is free in Poland might explain why it's shit... I'm never satisfied by those free tasters supermarkets seem to lover offering.
@Ell reminds me of Liverpool's lime street station
 
Ell
I don't know liverpool very well to be honest
 
@thecoshman yeah, it shouldn't be free
at least those hordes of dumbfucks would think twice before attending
 
@Ell The station is a dump, hence the resemblance.
 
1:25 PM
and maybe, just maybe, it could teach proper things actually
 
@MartinJames it has an old building that sort of hides it partly from one corner
 
Oh god. I ended up in the transcript from this morning.
 
The last time I went to Liverpool, it was closed.
 
I'll go back to sleep.
 
I can't help but feel I have to say far to often that Poland is cheap for a reason ¬_¬ at first I was just joking, but it's getting reinforced more and more
@MartinJames the entire city? what did you do!
@R.MartinhoFernandes hi cat
 
1:27 PM
@thecoshman it's not the whole thing really
 
@thecoshman Turned up.
 
there's a lot of shitty things in Poland granted
 
@BartekBanachewicz s/ in.*//
 
but if you earn low-end european equivalent you can really live a nice life here
 
Well, there's good, cheap beer, so I'd be up for it.
 
1:29 PM
if you can for example work remotely and get paid in proper cash, then you're imho better off living here than in the UK
 
There's also a lot of beautiful stuff
 
@BartekBanachewicz If you don't speak polish, would you still be able to mix up with locals?
 
@MartinJames just looking for my sceptical hat
 
@Rerito That depends. In the cities, pretty much, yeah. Not so much in the countryside.
 
@thecoshman OK, cheap beer.
 
1:30 PM
IMO where ever you live is usually that place you overlook the most.
 
Seems pretty logical
 
But say my coworker comes from Uruguai and he managed to teach himself really good polish in about 3 years or so
 
@MartinJames I was about to say "but fosters is cheap" pointing out that cheap beer can be shite... then realised it's not even cheap
 
most of the people can't realize he's not a native at first
 
@thecoshman lol
 
1:31 PM
@thecoshman Local polish beer is really of very good quality, by the world-class rankings
 
@BartekBanachewicz vOv I'm still trying to get to grips with this English thing.
 
@thecoshman lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz fosters is in no way a 'local' beer
it's pure crap
 
@thecoshman I don't know this one
 
even the taps for it feel crap
 
1:33 PM
@thecoshman foster's is good
or wait
 
@BartekBanachewicz generic pub larger, akin to carling, stella, bud et al
 
I'm not sure it was foster's that I had
nope, nvm
it was Murphy's
 
@AlexM. are you abbreviating "fostering orphaned siblings"
 
never tried foster's
 
@thecoshman Fucking lager taps I hate them. Stupid, massive things that the staff cannot serve past and block the view of the footy on the bar TV:(
 
1:33 PM
@AlexM. spoiler: it's shite
 
I liked Murphy's Irish Stout more than Guinness
 
@MartinJames wtf is the TV doing in the bar?
@AlexM. Guinness is massively overrated IMO
 
@thecoshman Oh, there's a 50" plasma in the pool room, but the little TV behind the bar is better if I'm just lounging there when the place is not packed.
 
@MartinJames what sort of scum pit is this?
 
1:38 PM
@MartinJames and now you bring that insult to humanity to me? hang your head in shame.
 
@thecoshman I did pause before posting a Facebook link. No, it wasn't me that set it up:)
 
@MartinJames guilty by association
 
@thecoshman I will have to drink to forget:(
@thecoshman Guinness is a good backup plan if in a strange pub and find out that the bitter is undrinkable.
'I made a singleton wrapper template class'... next.
 
@MartinJames yeah :( it's my dirty default drink. it's nto great, but its the best of the crap most pubs serve
AFIAK there is only one pub in town that does nice beers, they are closed most of the times I've tried to go there, it's out of the way, no one I know wants to go there and it's even more expensive than normal.
Ireland may have built a reputation for being a nation of dunks, but we sure as hell can't afford to maintain it.
 
@thecoshman It saved my life when I got trapped in a pub that had only John Smith's keg:(
If the unconference had been in Wroclaw, we would have had 'there's a lot of shitty things in Poland granted. the general lounge public'
 
1:53 PM
@thecoshman Belgium beers!
 
@BartekBanachewicz do you have witchers in poland
 
@thecoshman I thought the reputation was about quantity not quality.
 
Just checked, althought the docs don't mention it, the iterators of flat_set are indeed random-access: Live On Coliru. Just in case you're curious (like me) — sehe just now
TIL. It makes sense, of course
 
@AlexM. lol
 
@AlexM. No witchers, but the occasional gollum.
 
1:58 PM
omg my reddit post got an upvote
 

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