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8:01 PM
TIL about Diehard tests:
The diehard tests are a battery of statistical tests for measuring the quality of a random number generator. They were developed by George Marsaglia over several years and first published in 1995 on a CD-ROM of random numbers. These are the tests: Birthday spacings: Choose random points on a large interval. The spacings between the points should be asymptotically exponentially distributed. The name is based on the birthday paradox. Overlapping permutations: Analyze sequences of five consecutive random numbers. The 120 possible orderings should occur with statistically equal probability. Ranks of...
 
I suspect that, with telkitty AWOL and Vlad banned, the root cause of the nerdfights is simply a lack of easy targets to take out our frustrations on.
 
user1804599
yay payrise
 
Ell
I wonder what the best way to store colour in a vertex buffer is o.O
 
@рытфолд is that totes for reals?
 
user1804599
@Ell Leaving it to a high-level library.
 
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8:03 PM
@thecoshman no
 
@Ell don't
 
Ell
@рытфолд nah bruh
 
@рытфолд shame
 
@MartinJames One does not get to appreciate their role until society gets entirely destabilized
 
user1804599
I want a tool that automatically removes TODO comments from source files and creates issues in YouTrack.
 
8:04 PM
@AndyProwl I hear that one punchbag is back in a week or so.
 
@MartinJames 6 days, looking forward
 
Ell
I don't think .obj supports per vertex colours. I'll go with normals for now I guess
 
> The strain in question, H3N2, is also a particular worry as it primarily kills the elderly.
Not to sound cruel but isn't this sort of a good thing
Flu doing its job
Population control
@AndyProwl I already told you why "such a reaction". You're fucking misrepresenting me. You're totally ignoring the other three people who were 10 times as "involved" as I. You're pissing me off, son.
At this stage I can only surmise that it's deliberate, as all the facts have been presented to you and the "objective" truth is right in front of you in the transcript as you say
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit by that token isn't war doing its job?
 
@Mgetz War isn't naturally instigated
OR IS IT
 
8:06 PM
war is usually predicated on resources... and the conflict over
 
I was thinking of biological factors primarily
The Earth is a complex [eco]system and we keep fucking it up by fighting back
 
@MartinJames you take that back you fucking English twat!
 
user1804599
Oh it's Tuesday. :(
 
user1804599
I thought it was Wednesday.
 
@Mgetz Not well enough. We're not killing each other anywhere near fast enough to control population ATM.
@thecoshman lol
 
8:08 PM
@AndyProwl Danke
 
@MartinJames we have in the past, primarily it affects singular countries. Generally killing the most fertile males.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Declare types manually unless you have a very good reason.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have no intention to piss anyone off, but I'm not scared either. I also don't think I'm misinterpreting anything; in particular, I haven't accused anyone. I merely reported involvement, and that's just true, considering that the debate started with you attacking Bartek. Now if you'll let me go through the whole thing so I can figure out how much the heart of the debate is connected to that, I'll appreciate. TIA
 
@MartinJames "we have the technology"
 
@Jefffrey said a person who likes rubby :|
 
8:09 PM
@Mgetz Well, at least WMD don't discriminate sexually, so that's good.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Said a person who likes top-level signatures
You peasant
 
@MartinJames so... killing millions of men is ok if you also kill millions of women? You really are sadistic o_0
 
@BartekBanachewicz And this is why you're not an owner.
 
@Jefffrey hypocrite
 
@thecoshman It's politically correct:)
 
8:11 PM
@EtiennedeMartel is your joke capacity so low today?
@Jefffrey outer boundaries - good. Inner things - noise
 
@BartekBanachewicz wat
 
4 hours ago, by Alex M.
can you imagine if the lounge stopped arguing about what the best way to program is
 
one reason for haskell being so easy to refactor is lack of that noise that has to change
 
Too bad the second half of that message is separated from the first half
 
Ell
Being an owner doesn't mean anything, does it?
 
8:12 PM
Would have starred twice
 
@Ell it means you can kick people
 
@Ell It meams you get blamed for stuff, like any supervisory position.
 
I really don't
don't care, don't want to, don't mind, whatever
 
you can read deleted messages as owner. The nicest thing imo.
 
actually Andy and Alex are right
let's just write code not wank over it
 
8:13 PM
I'm not really want to ask a c++ programming question here, but I'm stuck again for some of my tests leaving me with a `pure method function call`errors.
That stuff pops up from time to time, usually because my colleagues missed to declare `virtual` destructors or such. Some of them don't test their stuff, when destructors really apply (special embedded conditions).
But I'm testing the applications under linux conditions, and want to have proper shutdowns anyway.
It's just annoying. My test cases involve asynchronous execution from threads, and I end up that `pure method function call`.
 
@EtiennedeMartel seriously there's a message just above what I wrote
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, tony does
 
@EtiennedeMartel Who atropined the cat?
 
it's your fault for not scrolling up
context, man, context - Etienne de Martel, 2015
 
8:15 PM
i recently created a linux box running ubuntu. When people code c++ in linux, do they typically do it from a terminal? Or are there more gui friendly ways to code?
 
@MartinJames Overpopulation is a problem that solves itself.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ 'want to have proper shutdowns anyway' - you should not aquire such tastes for luxury.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nobody refactors code.
 
@TriHard8 butterflies
 
Desert planets in Starbound are p nice
 
8:16 PM
@Jefffrey what. Are you high?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It does, but not in an effective way if total depopulation takes 20 minutes.
 
You get to steal all the oil and raid ancient temples
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nothing
 
@MartinJames Fuck, I'm stuck with the unit tests, and I don't just want to ignore that.
 
@Jefffrey are you seriously trying to sell "write-only" attitude to me
 
8:17 PM
@MartinJames 20 minutes? but I want total annihilation nowwwww
 
I mean to anyone else
but to me
 
> the debate started with you attacking Bartek
no, once more, and for the final time: it. did. not.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It was a joke
 
learn to read or shh
i love you <3
 
@Jefffrey ok
 
8:18 PM
ITT farttek makes even less sense than normal
 
@thecoshman Talk to experts, eg. robot, Bartek, LRiO.
 
23 mins ago, by Andy Prowl
5 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Quit this ludicrous auto-everywhere nonsense, honestly.
 
lol "experts"
 
Can't find any trace of debate before that
 
23 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@AndyProwl That was not the beginning, bruh.
then you're blind
i already told you precisely what happened and with whom
if you can't corroborate that in the transcript then you're reading it wrong shrug
can't help you darling!
time for another topic?
 
user1804599
 
Oh please. Are you going to debate which particular message is the beginning?
 
I'd rather not
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No. I just stated involvement and that's it.
 
doesn't feel very nice when someone persistently lies about it to your own detriment though
 
I must be right!!!
 
8:19 PM
lol lies
 
you stated wrong involvement and that's it.
 
It's there in the transcript
 
seriously are you not listening to anything I've said
 
@рытфолд lol
 
Andy what is your opinion on Australia being part of the Commonwealth?
 
8:20 PM
Disagreeing doesn't mean not listening
 
@Andy frankly it quickly turned into shit-throwing contest and it hardly matters who started
 
Ell
Ima have myself a muffin
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I don't know any easy way to debug those pure calls to abstract base classes at runtime. I know they are pretty horrible:(
 
I shouldn't get all fired up but I just got annoyed I got kicked over "you suck" repeated thrice
 
@рытфолд Is say Perl6 stuff?
 
8:22 PM
especially that me vs LRIO typically gets heated and that doesn't mean we hate each other or anything
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It seems to me Bartek got heated up during discussion with you, that's where the "you suck" stuff started, and that's where room owner intervention took place. So while you're not the only one involved, claiming you are involved isn't really "wrong".
 
To extend on my previos post, I don't get any useful hints from the debugger, what's actually going on. My usual procedure is to lookup any non virtual destructors for abstract interface implementaitons. But there's none mor to be found. I was wondering if valgrind could actually help to find the bug?
 
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@Jefffrey This keyword is available only when the "say" feature is enabled, or when prefixed with CORE::; see feature. Alternately, include a use v5.10 or later to the current scope.
 
user1804599
use Modern::Perl; should include it.
 
8:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not going to judge who's right and wrong. I'm just reporting facts, and I don't like being accused of "lying" because of that.
 
Man, I'm stuffed.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You probably have virtual calls from ctors somewhere
 
I've been eating like a pig the whole day.
 
user1804599
You are a pig.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, so you viral thingy has run its course?
 
8:25 PM
@MartinJames Absolutely agree! These are horrible, and I meet these with a rate of 1 to 2 times a year. Most of these could be solved by searching for the non virtual destructors, where these should be applied. But today it seems it left me to some weird edge case :-(.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you a pig or are you unhappy?
 
also, this and this seem to support my impression that I'm not totally off in my statement of who was involved
 
@AndyProwl Andy. Darling.
What is your opinion on Australia being part of the Commonwealth?
@BartekBanachewicz I love you
 
@MartinJames Not yet, but now I feel like eating, which I haven't done properly for days.
 
@CatPlusPlus It all appears on destruction sequences actually.
 
8:25 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh I love you too honey
 
@AndyProwl No, it was during discussion with Robot, and then mostly so in discussion with Xeo and Robot after Xeo kicked him. He thought the kick was unfair. That was the problem. That's it. All the auto chat with me was just chat.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sounds good!
 
When history can be so badly twisted mere hours after the fact it makes you wonder whether as humans we really know anything about our societies' pasts to any useful degree of accuracy lol
@BartekBanachewicz What do you think about Australia?
 
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@Jefffrey is your code on github
 
I was ravenous this afternoon
 
8:27 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Name some meals please
@MartinJames: Anything more than toast yet?
 
oh good lord! this is like watching kids argue over who can eat the most shit!
4
 
I forgot to say earlier but my bacon burgers were pretty good
 
@πάνταῥεῖ P sure you can't do that from dtors either
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol, meals.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes More of a constant stream of consumption then?
 
8:27 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Chicken kiev, chips and peas:)
 
@MartinJames one of my favourites
Birds Eye?
and southern fried chips I hope
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Tesco '4 for £3'
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He was kicked because of a discussion with you, so I don't see why should I not see your involvement in the "drama". I am not accusing you of anything. Or do you see involvement as an accusation?
 
@AndyProwl No, he was kicked because of a discussion with Robot.
 
8:28 PM
Oh for fuck's sake
Who the fuck is flagging that
 
The "accusation" is in painting the entire episode as a LRiO vs Bartek
 
@thecoshman two flags, two stars :P
 
now stfu and answer my damn question about Australia
@CatPlusPlus ok I have to admit that one was me
just for fun really
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sorta. Those from Iceland, but they don't call them 'southern fried', of course, 'cos lawyers.
 
everyone else seems to be flagging lately so
@MartinJames ahhhh Horse Kievs.....
 
8:29 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nope, he was kicked during the slapfight with you
 
^
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It started with the "you suck tremendously" messages, to which Xeo wrote "chill out", then apparently Bartek got kicked. Discussion with Robot followed that event.
 
@CatPlusPlus That was not a discussion
 
holy crap buckets! that is actually getting flagged?
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nobody cares about 'stralia bro
 
@AndyProwl No, it started in the conversation with Robot during which Bartek got angry and started saying "you suck". When he said "you suck", other things had already occurred. And the "you suck" was just fun between me and Bartek, nothing more.
You need to read the entire context, not just the parts of it that fit your chosen narrative.
 
8:30 PM
Oh god nobody fucking cares
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol. they're OK actually, as long as you don't go for the 'Value' ones that are even cheaper.
 
I'm getting rep like crazy, 20 yesterday and 15 today. Not long before I can see flags now.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's wrong.
 
@CatPlusPlus Andy and I do, apparently.
 
BUT I DON'T CARE.
 
8:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do explain
 
I've heard enough.
 
Nevermind
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hahaa
It's not "wrong" in the slightest.
You people are so funny and I love you all
 
I feel like I'm listening to Russia talk about Ukraine.
 
How could I possibly be wrong!
 
8:31 PM
Now what do you think about Australia being part of the Commonwealth???????
I'm trying to move things on here. Help me out.
@MartinJames neiiighhhh
 
Ell
I wonder if I have to register to vote again
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Time for some more nuclear weapons testing.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I hope you're just misremembering. But you should check the transcript. My last message before the "you suck" thing was over ten minutes earlier.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes one sec then
as if ten minutes makes the blindest bit of difference in a chat room lol
 
8:32 PM
Oh it seems I'm not selecting the parts that fit my chosen narrative.
 
Queensland would be a good place to start.
 
timestamp please never mind found it
 
granted I only ever venture in and lurk when there are flags, and forgive me if this sounds rude, but does the lounge always fight with itself?
 
@rlemon Yep.
 
@JohanLarsson Poor thing.
 
Ell
8:33 PM
src/LevelObjectRenderer.cpp:33:41: error: expected '(' for function-style cast or type construction
        position_attribute.Pointer<float>(3, false, 3, 0);
does this mean it can't find a function called Pointer?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There's a brewey there with four 'X's on it, so a mirv with 4 warheads would be a good choice.
 
@Ell Dependency? i.e. .template Pointer<…>
 
@rlemon have you ever seen The Human Centipede? That's what it's like to be part fo this 'group'.
 
Ah I must apologise. It had nothing to do with Robot and auto. It was Bartek fighting with Ell about mutating variables inside JavaScript loops.
 
Of course it's a similar situation from destructors, I well know (that's why I mentioned thos missing `virtual` destructors, which I usually met to fix such problems).
The thing that drives me crazy, is that all of these are correct, and the point where the debugger points to fail from the asynchronous thread, is not giving any helpful information at all.
I was wondering if a tool like valgrind would be a better alternative, to get a pointer where that code is failing actually.
 
8:34 PM
Shot in the dark, error message doesn’t ring a bell.
 
@LucDanton BSOD
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Glad we got that cleared up :)
Phew.
 
Ell
I get it often but I can never really tell what the problem actually is
 
However I submit that the recent argument about auto had created the breeding ground for hostility since Bartek was in a bad mood after Robot cleaned him up.
You can't ignore that.
 
Ell
I'll try reshuffling the include orders vOv
 
8:35 PM
@Ell have you tried it with another compiler?
 
Change code randomly until it compiles
 
try it with Visual Studio. I hear that's a good compiler
3
 
@thecoshman saw a preview and noped the fuck outta there.
 
I meant for error messages
not to get it to compile
 
On top of everything else, I was going to go watch the away arrers, but I just got a text from Anne: 'Black Swan packed, car park full'
 
8:36 PM
TecnologieWeb/progetto
 
@rlemon ahahahahahaa
 
or something like that
 
Ell
g++ says "error: expected primary-expression before ‘float’"
I'll just shuffle.
 
shuffle your code?
 
8:37 PM
@rlemon welcome aboard
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit LOL!
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit include order
 
ah frak it I've run out of sockets on my router -.-
ffs
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'll just have to stick to the home teams at the club. Unfortunately, that means more Rev. James:(
 
8:37 PM
@MartinJames that's too bad man
(sorry for being sexist)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
@rlemon Quite often a bunch of people talking over each other.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've noticed that. walk away for a second and I'm lost again. :P
probably for the best, I should be working harder anyways
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, I have two routers and they're both full up now. No more network thingies for me.
 
Maybe I meant "past each other"
@MartinJames Full of beer?
 
8:40 PM
@rlemon It's easy to mistake a lot of what happens in here for "fighting". "Playing" would be a better word. Try not to read too much into it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Full of RJ45 :)
 
Ell
error: implicit instantiation of undefined template 'oglplus::Classify<oglplus::VertexArrayAttrib>'
man this is just a nightmare
 
Rev. James x 45 litres
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ohh yea, I just wondered if the bickering was constant, or just when there are flags. and don't read too much into bickering.. I mean probably what you do with "play"
 
@rlemon The flags are almost always pseudo-ironic, at a guess
 
8:41 PM
again, I should lurk more randomly and not just when there are flags.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Heh - it is, funnily enough, 4.5%
 
I can well imagine how this place looks from the outside, though. Hell, a quarter of the regulars don't even get it!: )
@MartinJames hah I thought you might say that
 
@Ell Did you try the fix I suggested?
 
still haven't decided what network device to sacrifice to get Halo running
 
Ell
@LucDanton I did. It didn't help, but I'm sure the problem is elsewhere at this point
 
8:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Still listening to this Popscotch btw
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Get yet another router.
 
@MartinJames shops are closed and I'm not adequately dressed
also I'd have to take half my office apart to find the spare power sockets I'd need
because I forgot to plug in the extension cables before sealing in my new worksurfaces and desks
which was, admittedly, a fail thing to do
 
@Ell What kind of thing is Pointer, and to which part of the line does the original error point to?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nice one:)
 
Ell
the original error points to float, and Pointer is a member function template I think, but the docs don't list it. I'm looking at the source now
 
8:45 PM
alright I unplugged the Hive
won't be changing my heating schedule for a while anyway
also I have a water bill to pay but I'm too scared to log in to my bank account :/
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You live alone. How come you spend so much?
 
@wilx by living alone
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Less hookers then?
 
@wilx Fewer but yes
 
lol
 
8:47 PM
@rlemon: See? PLAYING!! :D ^^^^
I found out yesterday that one of my friends paid £300 for a hooker at a strip club a few weeks ago. He's only been a car salesman for six months for goodness's sake.
 
blackjack and hookers? now you have my attention.
 
5
come on do you want another card or not
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit who knows what you like to do with them
 
mate
@Ell we have great lesbian orgies :)
 
Ell
I was implying that you ended up with 0.5 of a hooker
:P
 
8:50 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sorry was distracted. maybe hookers and blackjack wasn't such a great idea.
 
lol
@rlemon card's still on the table bub
 
HIT ME
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Welcome back sub commander
 
user1804599
/me hits rlemon
 
Er.
What kind of weird blackjack is this?
 
user1804599
8:53 PM
> I currently work as a prostitute in order to pay off my university debts.
 
Whose is the card on the table? Why is there only one?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bingo!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You do not see the heavy winking between the two.
 
@rlemon 5
@wilx wanking*
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Errr...ok :)
 
8:58 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit split
 
@rlemon 4 and 8
 
ALL IN!
wait.. wrong game
I fold :(
 
Left or right?
 
@rlemon you can't fold
 
why do people initialize variables to type var = TYPE_MAX omfg
 
8:59 PM
@рытфолд Mum would be proud
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit stand for both
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl What if it is mum?
 

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