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12:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz how he pronounces everything as if he says it everyday
 
he probably does
 
@CatPlusPlus so, about that invite? :D Nothing in my inbox. Which email did you send it to?
Also woo, the OP commented on one of my 3 year old singleton answers. I won him over :D
 
i wonder when will all of those lazy scrubs add keys
 
> I know that I can include boost header before wxwidget and not getting this error, but in my code I need to include a header that uses boost::asio and wxwidget and I need to include this header after wxwidget, so I need to be able to include boost::asio after wxwidget.
Oh god. The swamp
@jalf link for mandatory comment upvote overload
@jalf if you gaveth a address as for mailingh, I can bestow it upon thee
 
@BartekBanachewicz lololol
 
Xeo
12:23 PM
> Rotate[Rectangle, Pi/2]

Heh. Hehe. You think you know what this does. But you don't. Rectangle by itself is just a named function. To actually get an object representing a rectangle, you'd need to call that function with some parameters. So what do you think happens, when you try to rotate Rectangle? This:
 
@Xeo funny
yeah, mathematica is cool
 
woot
got my VMs into "gurumeditation" state again
 
And thanks :)
 
@jalf deletable - done (sent)
 
12:39 PM
Woo, got it. Thanks!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Idk what to say, did you have one coffee to much or what
 
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Q: Introduce flags for comments that half-answer a question

Lightness Races in OrbitComments are just for requesting clarification and arguing with people, right? ;) Yet lately I'm seeing this more and more often (no data available; sorry to pick you specifically, Barry): What happens is that someone FGITWs a mini-answer as a comment on the question, diluting the value of th...

 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Request for clarification: Can you go fuck yourself? :P
I like my comment-answers, leave me alone.
 
Take them to a discussion forum
inb4 flag ;p
 
> The OECD's research also warns that the UK has some policies such as grouping pupils by ability in class, and giving families choice over schools, that could "hinder equity" – meaning they may not help to create an equal school system for all pupils.
ughfuck
not grouping by ability means you're hindering people, dumbfucks
 
12:45 PM
ffs
that really pisses me off
 
> Poland is leading the way for England's schools, Education Secretary says
 
Ah, prod is down because someone accidentally TOOK THE SERVERS OUT OF THE DATA CENTRE AND BROUGHT THEM TO THE OFFICE http://t.co/TsUSkFRDln
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yeah saw that
 
@BartekBanachewicz excellent way to put it
thing is if you're smart you don't "deserve" anything
cos being smart is not desirable nowadays
@BartekBanachewicz haha wot
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I explained once before why I like my comment-answers: I don't have the time / dedication to write a full answer, but I still want to help the question asker and people finding the question (as well as giving clues to people wanting to answer the question).
 
12:47 PM
^ comments re smartness not mine. they represent the stupid culture we're in nowadays. just to be clear.
 
Xeo
Not that I'm even writing comment-answers nowadays
 
> acidentally
> took the servers out of the data centre
 
@Xeo Yeah. Please don't take this as a personal affront because it's certainly not meant as one, but I strongly feel that the response then is to not post anything. Answer or bust, basically. Answers-as-comments hurt SO and break the model. Also a short "answer" without detail or caveats can hurt the OP.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit source
 
Giving clues is something else
@BartekBanachewicz ah, "inspired by"
 
Xeo
12:49 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Okay. What if people don't know how to answer the question, and I do but don't have the time / nerve to write a full answer? I can leave a solution / answer in the comment, and somebody can then expand on that.
 
@Xeo Then it's time to engage the OP inside a chatroom
 
Xeo
I just said I don't have the time
 
Then don't do it
Strands of half knowledge strewn about a question turn SO into a discussion forum. It was invented to get away from that messy model!
 
Xeo
Kay, so nobody gets an answer then
Win-win, I guess?
 
No, someone who has time to post an answer does. Or you can go back when you have more time!
 
12:50 PM
fooking cunt
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit shut up
 
add keeeeeyyyyyssss you lazy bums
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What he means is that is he has the bit of information needed to write an answer, but not the time.
 
Yes, I understood that.
"I don't have time" is not an excuse for writing answers in the wrong place, any more than "my assignment is due in an hour" is an excuse for writing questions on the wrong website
Please understand, I'm not trying to belittle your contributions Xeo
 
12:52 PM
lol @ google map, trying to paste pictures from different times together. Too bad with so many construction sites around, picture from left might be before construction, from right during the construction & from the front, the new house is built!
 
I think it's great that you're helping etc etc
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit flag yourself
 
This is a purely objective opinion
@Abyx haha
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh, I'm not taking it that way at all. I'm just arguing why I do did comment-answers, that's all
 
cool
I've taken some of your feedback and made it into a mini Q&A within the feature proposal
 
12:55 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Exactly, so I have a brilliant idea but Lightness doesn't allow me to quickly propose it in the comments before I catch my train?
Yeah, exceptions and what not
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it IS a valid reason actually, there are plenty of pedants on this site that downvote incomplete or partial answers. So if you only have time to give a partial answer, a comment is a safe way to do it. Then someone else can post the entire thing as an answer and actually get the rep.
 
pfft that is obviously not a duplicate. idiots
@Mgetz Nobody seems to consider the option "don't post anything at all then". Strange.
@Mgetz It's not "either an incomplete answer, or an answer in comments". Indeed, both are wrong. Post a complete answer or nothing at all!!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're behaving like a meta police. — Abyx 24 secs ago
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit then why bother participating at all?
 
what the hell
 
seriously
 
1:02 PM
@Mgetz Huh?!
@Mgetz Participate by writing answers.
 
if you're going to massively discourage participation, it will have a serious negative effect on the site
 
I have no idea what you're talking about
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, so if you have the relevant pointer, you're going to withhold it from others, so they can't google it /just because Your Highness doesn't have time to propertly sit down for an answer/
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not everybody knows the complete answer, I've had answers that answered the question and were good enough for the OP. But were not good enough for the pedants.
 
Makes totes sense
 
1:04 PM
I'm discouraging participating in a manner contrary to the ideals and models that Stack Exchange was invented for.
I encourage participating in the proper manner.
 
Except that is /not/ the proper manner
 
@Mgetz If you don't know the answer, don't post one. This is so simple. I don't see what you're not getting :(
bbiab
 
Never was it said that knowledge cannot be shared in comments. It can, however, not be appreciated in comments.
The gaming system was put in place so we can enjoy proper appreciation
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think you're being very high and mighty, we should in general not discourage participation even if it's only through comments.
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1:22 PM
LRiO seems to share the same temperament with my pet chicken
high mighty & all that
 
Are they also picking on anything?
 
Oh yeah, all the times! They love to pick on clean spots to take a dump ...
 
I see the parallel now
 
so... ye who have more culture... any idea what Vruksha is a reference to? Something Indian is the best I can do.
@sehe pickle all the things!
 
And don't forget to compress
 
user1804599
1:24 PM
Pickles wrapped in salami.
 
@рытфолд Ham sandwich!
 
I had too much ham & cheese for lunch, thinking I am growing into a fat cow :'(
 
@рытфолд ... care to batter that?
I don't really care for the lighting up of keyboard and mouse... but I do wish that these things had the same colour lights at least.
 
what
so you do care after all
 
I don't care if they have lights or not, but I do care what lights they have if they insist on having them
mouse has blue lights, keyboard has green
I guess I could fix that problem...
 
1:47 PM
@Mgetz What does "high & mighty" have to do with it? Perhaps you could disagree with me without calling me names
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You are essentially proposing that "participation" should be encouraged in whatever form the participant damn well chooses. How can this be the mark of an orderly system?
It makes no sense.
 
@thecoshman If they had the same coloured lights, how could you tell them apart?
I'm fortunate to have lighting in my office, and so I can tell the difference between mouse and KB because I can see that they have a differerent shape and size - I don't need the coloured lights to tell them apart or to use them effectively.
Maybe I have no artisitic soul.
 
..though ATM I could go for grilled sole, or maybe lobster thermidor.
 
is sole the fish?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, I like it with the cheesy sauce, (sole bon femme?).
God, I'm hungry now!
Unfortunately, a quick scan of the fridge reveals little except bread and half a can of baked beans. So, beans on toast it is, then.
 
Xeo
1:58 PM
I'm currently eating some bread with cream cheese and nougat cream
 
> SyntaxError: lambda cannot contain assignment
fuck you Guido, fuck you so much.
 
Guido?
Oh is that the Python guy?
 
I had two chicken kievs for lunch
 
I bet they were Russian, not Ukrainian.
 
Xeo
@Puppy lol
 
2:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes British, actually. Had 'em in the freezer since 1854.
speaking of me being hilarious, let's just relive this moment shall we:
yesterday, by Lightness Races in Orbit
I don't think you didn't but I can't really untell for uncertain because I have no fucking lack of clue what you didn't just not say
classic.
Another cracking The 100 this week. Easily my favourite show at the moment.
 
Now that it's been mentioned, I remembered something. I've found a chicken kiev at the back of the freezer compartment. I'm not sure how long it's been there, but it's one left over from a packet of two and is a bit, well, iceberged. I'll chip it out and thaw it.
 
> The first commercial ice-making machine was invented in 1854
innovator!
 
@AndyProwl I got a SO badge for using it that year
nice try at finding something to debunk my statement, btw :P
@MartinJames I wouldn't eat it
 
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'll thaw it and sniff. If it smells of anything other than garlic, in the bin it goes.
 
2:13 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes they may be French, actually
 
@MartinJames You can't smell deadly bacteria.
@MartinJames You also can't smell the inside from the outside.
 
I want a different monad for my draw function
that can do reordering
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I can smell hunger, though. OK, you've convinced me, I'll go grocery shopping.
 
I read about Cont but I am not sure if I understood it correctly
 
@BartekBanachewicz rip
 
2:16 PM
@MartinJames I aim to misbehave please help
 
@CatPlusPlus no hey this one is actually much simpler
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think you're making the assumption that people should not participate if they don't have a full answer, I think that is incredibly arrogant. More to the point I think it is using a sledgehammer to solve a screwdriver problem.
 
@Puppy Assignment is a statement, not an expression
 
I'm not using RankNTypes
well I mean I'm using it but just for convenience
 
@Mgetz You're still calling me names in lieu of constructing a counterargument. You'd be easier to take seriously if you stopped doing that.
 
2:17 PM
so
 
You also haven't addressed any of my detailed points in support of the proposal.
 
how do I get all of the monadic operations then look at them as an AST, process as data, then execute
 
Therefore, having weighed up the merits of this conversation, at this juncture I think I shall just ignore everything you say! Cheers
 
w/e you were going to anyway so there was no point in continuing
 
What? That's not true....
You're weird.
As an afterthought, perhaps go look up the definition of "arrogant" because it's not what you think it is.
HTH! :-)
 
2:20 PM
hello
 
To mute Lightness, or not to mute lightness. The daily question.
 
Hi
@SamDeHaan What?
God you people are just persistently a bunch of arseholes, aren't you?
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If so, you definitely fit the mold.
 
aww darnit... left my shoes at home, oh well boots it is I gues
 
@SamDeHaan Sigh.
this plonk list is getting out of hand
 
2:21 PM
> First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye.
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@Mgetz what sort of boots?
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, that is the logic you people should apply when you routinely call me names.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit heavy snow boots, I usually carry running shoes with me when I wear them
 
I'm not disputing that I call you names but at least I save it for when someone's been a dick to me first -.-
@Mgetz I love snow boots but I've found that they don't work too well on ice
So when the snow has settled and starts to get compacted on the pavement.... well.... it's not a pretty sight
@BartekBanachewicz Also, the suggestion that mine is a log to your mere speck is simply retarded
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit mine work better than my usual shoes, basically the difference between doing the "oh crap I'm slipping" dance, and landing on my arse
 
2:23 PM
@Mgetz I stick with my real shoes for ice. I still can't explain why the grip is better
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Same
 
but the boots are awesome in the snow
well, I suppose that's why they're called snow boots
 
Xeo
They have a deep grip, perfect for snow
 
@CatPlusPlus That simply raises further hatred of not permitting statements in lambdas.
 
Xeo
not so perfect for ice
 
2:23 PM
so given a >>= b
 
I slide on ice with flat sole sneakers
Weeeee
 
@Xeo but why is a shallow grip better?
maybe it's not but other properties of the shoe make it superior on ice
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit More stuff gripping the surface
 
what more stuff :/
 
Xeo
my snow boots at least have a lot of "space" on the sole
 
2:25 PM
ah
mmmm I suppose there are smaller areas of depression on my real shoes
 
@Puppy vOv Make an inner function
 
is that an expression I can pass as an argument to other functions?
 
yes
you can do anything
 
def whatever():
...
something(whatever)
 
it's not locally scoped, can't use captures, isn't an expression
 
@MartinJames ... you really are clutching at straws here. Get your act in gear. Pull the good jokes out of the boot, or have you exhausted them already? Perhaps I should inject some more comedic gold into you? Or would that blow a gasket?
 
it's as bad as a C++ functor
 
Xeo
@Puppy It... is locally scoped?
 
@Puppy At least it's properly named, unlike C++ "functors".
 
Xeo
2:27 PM
It's a function inside another function!
 
Captures won't help you with assignments, Python has no equivalent of C++ reference
 
@Xeo I'm sorry; were you expecting facts?
 
Well, you can use a mutable object if you really want, but that's usually a dumb way
 
The room name has changed to Lounge<Facts>
 
> newtype M a = M { runM :: StateT [IO ()] IO a } deriving (Functor, Applicative, Monad, MonadIO)

<interactive>:8:68: Warning:
    `M' is an instance of Monad but not Applicative - this will become an error in GHC 7.10, under the Applicative-Monad
hmfh
good job ghci
 
2:29 PM
yeah haskell is awesome
that code is perfect self-explanatory and clear
can't believe I'm not a haskell programmer
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit so old yet so true
 
what
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's a type definition. I don't get what you expected
 
I've noticed that you don't bother asking actual questions any more. You just say "what" and "eh" then stop talking about it!
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It... is, if you know Haskell
 
@BartekBanachewicz I didn't expect anything.
 
2:29 PM
You're a C++ programmer though, so we don't trust your judgement on "self-explanatory" and "clear" :v
 
Fact - cows can climb stairs, but cannot get down them.
 
@CatPlusPlus Quote me saying C++ is "self-explanatory" or "clear" ;)
@MartinJames They can certainly get down them.
@MartinJames But it won't be pretty...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit which, compared to "what", is actually a great response.
 
'C++ is "self-explanatory" or "clear"' -- @LightnessRacesinOrbit, 2015
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2:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Thank you
@CatPlusPlus Thank you
 
you seem to be in a weird mood those days
 
I was just thinking the same thing about you
That whole flagging and suspension thing was really unusual for you, for example
Is everything okay at home?
 
Did cows go home
 
@CatPlusPlus yes
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nah, I just lost grip of reality back then
 
2:32 PM
> lost
 
well yeah that implies I had it
 
Xeo
Bartek Banacowicz
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@BartekBanachewicz my point exactly!
Bartek Bafactshewicz
 
@MartinJames utter blocks. Cows obey the laws of physics just like anythin... oh wait, you mean without falling into a painful lump of bony pre-burger?
 
just something to consider: .c_str() is supposed to be O(1) for a reason, in most string implementations it returns a const pointer directly to the internal buffer. Your implementation will leak memory. — Mgetz 3 mins ago
 
2:34 PM
@thecoshman Yeah. I shoud have added 'safely' in there somewhere.
 
@BartekBanachewicz see my previous comments regarding phallic likenesses
 
udder blocks?
 
yeah... just saw my 'blocks'
 
That moment when @SuppressWarnings("unused") has an unused warning on it.
Thanks Eclipse.
 
really shouldn't get them out in the office
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
ECB is going to inject €1.1t into the Eurozone. Don't forget your handy quantitative easing starter pack!
 
@thecoshman Didn't notice. My Lounge-parser auto-expanded it to 'bollocks' as I read it.
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@MartinJames good job
 
@thecoshman It's useful, but not perfect. For example, it expands 'Haskell' to 'pile of shite'.
 
2:37 PM
Autocoshrection
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@MartinJames It's acceptable as long as it expands "Puppy" to "Lord and Master"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 1.1 tonne? That's chump change
 
Which is why we call you the Unfunny UnPuppy
meh that sucks
never mind
 
2:39 PM
@Puppy Actually, it expanded 'Puppy' to 'Shit! I have only a couple of scoops of dog food left in the bin'.
 
@Puppy that's fine as long it then suffixes " of shite"
 
Funny how that works
 
@MartinJames you keep your dog's food... in the bin?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit A bin. A plastic bin. A plastic bin for dried, complete dog food.
 
2:40 PM
Dogs enjoy the challenge
 
@MartinJames what about the partial dog food, what ever that is.
 
@MartinJames Tub!
Rub-a-tub-tub
 
@MartinJames Can't let doggy go hungry!
 
> How to install and use MobileX
> Don't. It's no longer supported or developed.
wait...
 
@thecoshman 'partial dog food' requires supplements, (not that Bailey doesn't get anything else but dog food. Hence the '40kg' issue).
 
2:42 PM
I when did they fix multiline quotes?
 
Bailey is 40kg?
 
Oh hey, somebody answered my four year old question.
I don't even use Qt anymore.
@StackedCrooked Depends by what you mean by "data oriented".
 
o_0 so... an internal wiki wanted to link to a yt vid about how linux is mostly virus free, mostly getting that the "don't do stupid shit"... but instead linked to a playlist with a load of songs :S
first song is Amerika :P
 
@MartinJames Holy shit.
What breed is Bailey?
 
@EtiennedeMartel the everything-is-an-array kind of type :P
 
2:49 PM
@StackedCrooked Erm, no.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Labradoodle. Aparrently, the poodle dog he was by was massive. Seems to have been passed on:(
 
hmpfh
I don't understand it well enough it seems
a >> b
let's start with that
types don't much fuck it
 
@sehe what are you trying to do to me? <flag reason="offensive" />
 

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