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16:05
SAO is awesome
why would you protest against quarantine
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Jesus christ what are they doing that for.
Africa should be under quarantine
I want the chances for ebola to get outside Africa to be 0
@Puppy that's not HN
In Hungarian notation, a variable name starts with a group of lower-case letters which are mnemonics for the type or purpose of that variable, followed by whatever name the programmer has chosen;
16:17
TIL "Hungarian notation, n. any identifier name convention that Puppy doesn't like."
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"This is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen in my life", he said.
Indeed.
@Alex That would essentially destroy the African economy. Do you have any idea how much produce we all import from Africa?
I love that quote
That senior police officer is ready for the Lounge
@AlexM. they are the scum of the earth (I learned that expression from a Shoujo anime btw)
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit bananas? </racism>
why is that racist
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16:21
idk
because...
monkeys like bananas
@Ell Chiquita
@Ell lol
dunno if a short term quarantine would have that much of an effect on the economy
no idea
I forgot to watch last week's episode of Baby Steps so I can now watch two episodes in a row. Lucky me :)
also everyone seems to protest nowadays
what's next
north koreans protesting?
@AlexM. unlikely
unless there's a famine
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16:25
There is famine in north korea
I think NK's been under famine conditions everywhere except the capital since the soviet union died
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yeah
there's this book written by (or by someone who contacted) a NK citizen who got out of the country and moved to SK
living in a village there w/o any electricity must suck
here it is
@AlexM. yet electricity has only become common since the early 1900.
and I thought saying that living w/o internet must suck would be too much :A
they used to have electricity back when the soviet union existed
and kept their economy alive
so villages and small towns do have electric poles and wires
they just don't do anything
16:33
I think it's amazing that there's only 50-60 years between first airplane and first moonlanding.
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@StackedCrooked I think so too
Puppy doesn't
Auntie Wainwright has stolen my brain. I need to die now.
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can someone tell me if this would be a terrible design for viewing c++ documentation or not? i.imgur.com/2cGXeFO.png (yes, it "borrows" from scaladoc :P)
looks like something default coming from iOS
@Borgleader Yeah, not by itself it doesn't
16:42
@CatPlusPlus I was being sarcastic =/
I get a segfault somewhere after withForeignPtr, any idea? — Scott 5 hours ago
Yes sure of course
As Puppy said right after, I prefer to play a good game with meh graphics and than a meh game with good graphics
@Borgleader yeah those graphics kinda suck
paServerDetails, laServerAddress/IP, ebServerAddress/IP, laServerPort, ebServerPort. Given that labels and editBoxes can be placed on panels, I wonder what those objects/components are?
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@AlexM. is that good or bad? :P
16:46
it would look great on a tablet I think
but really as long as I have a search bar
any format is fine
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17:03
@AlexM. better or worse? i.imgur.com/YBjszAH.png
I don't think it was clear where the topic headers were
Hmm maybe a border would look better
I'll use this: i.imgur.com/pTVVDET.png
Fuck me. I'm pissed up but Anne and I have had to go on a chicken run - neighbour's chooks got out and were scattered over the road. We managed to get them back into coop.
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@MartinJames pissed already? :P
It's only 6
I'm off to the pub in an hour
haha, this was the funniest thing while playing the game
runescape had this basic pathfinding which was really just doing some sort of raycasting up to the player and if there was an obstacle in-between, that was it, the NPC would run up to the obstacle and sit there forever
17:18
user image
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Guize
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Quick questoin.
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If anyone's ever tried this...
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I've got a neck-breakingly tight loop. In it, I am testing a constraint by (rx == 0, ry == 0, and rz == 0)
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Wait, answered my own question.
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17:20
Don't mind me.
ITT @ThePhD wrote a boa constrictor
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Fuck.
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I need resharper. ._.
Hmm, I am getting intermittent imgur.com connection failures.
Want a medal for that?
Also god it's so hard to get people to go out for few hours
17:27
@CatPlusPlus Geeks? Or are you that unpopular? :)
Everyone's old and responsible and getting up early
@CatPlusPlus Hehe, yeah, that could be the problem as well.
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@CatPlusPlus It's like... 6 PM for you?
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Who the hell can't' go out now and go to sleep at 9 or something?
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17:29
10:30 is still a good after-hangout time.
@CatPlusPlus How old are you again?
No, cat, those are the remaining lives. How long have you been breathing on this earth?
22 you say? I see.
17:41
I go to sleep at 1-2 am
and wake up at 8:30
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Hmm I wonder what I could make the class template icon be
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Class template icon?
@AlexM. that's not too healthy
it works for me
I can sleep more during weekends
fri->sat sat->sun
I really don't feel that tired if I get 6 hours of sleep
@AlexM. It is still detrimental to your health, long term.
17:47
shrug
@AlexM. Think of it as smoking, same effect. :)
ack, fucking job websites
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Be careful about signing up for those.
user457812
You'll never stop getting calls at 3am.
they have an amazing ability to offer really poor-quality descriptions and to spam you with links to other job websites, ensuring that you see the same job 20 times and still can't accurately classify it
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18:01
That's partly the fault of the idiots who write the job descriptions
they should reject all job descriptions that do not have a salary minimum and maximum in pounds.
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But then they can't lowball the shit out of you.
sounds great
not to them
right, that's what I'm saying, they're poor for the prospective employee
18:03
Freelancing/Job sites suck.
Well, the boilerplate involved
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Amazing.
Just amazing.
Apply now for FULL details!
fuck these people.
yeah but think of the FULL details!
what I'm thinking of right now is, going back to university is sounding more appealing by the second
(you should go back to uni btw)
even if it's not that important
or maybe then again, it is
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18:06
meh uni
in my country I can't officially occupy the position of a programmer without a degree
I'd rather be safe than have that used against me at some later time in my career
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Apparently the Enlightenment folks decided to write an object-oriented C thing, because that always works out
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Today I learned that I missed something called 'Touhou'. Guess I'll have to figure out what that is and possibly scream.
Oh JonTron...
@Xeo lol @ eyeball dude
huh
found a job advertisement in the city where my sister lives, maintaining binutils.
Knowledge of the language compilation process, compilers, linkers and so on.
18:21
gotta say, you're REALLY picky about your first job
what do you mean?
I mean you seem to find more jobs that don't appeal to you than jobs that do appeal to you :D
how many jobs that appealed to you have you found so far?
it's less a question of "appeal to me" and more a question of being a good fit for me.
which is relatively required since many jobs here are advertised as requiring a 2:1 or better degree.
60% marks
18:23
just write java for a year, I doubt you couldn't do that
then use that year of experience to compensate for your lack of degree in some ways, if you don't get one until then
IME there are lots of places doing java for android
degree requirements are so arbitrary it pains me
the java ones have pretty much the same requirements
just apply even if you don't have a degree, nothing to lose doing so
actually I'm curious did my current job also "require" a degree
let me check
I applied just because it was about gamedev LOL
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Im going to apply for jobs requiring a degree
No chance at all if I don't apply I figure
And not everywhere will throw me out straight away
none of the dev jobs at Gameloft seem to require a degree
they only mention experience with the tech being used
18:31
I taught my friend how to play a piano today
we wrote a song :D
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I'm going to apply everywhere when my.summer is over
I want to write an attractive CV first
I'd probably need a LaTeX wiz at hand though :L
Any volunteers in the lounge? :P
Good knowledge of C/C++;
Python/Java are considered a plus;
Moderate knowledge about RDBMS or distributed databases;
Knowledge of Boost libraries, especially ASIO is considered a plus;
Advanced English – both speaking and writing;
Creative problem solver, able to quickly learn and utilize new concepts;
Positive, results-driven and action-oriented person.
this is how most requirements look like
@Ell you really don't need TeX to write a CV
so no degree stuff
also Lady Gaga is great
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18:33
@bartek I know, I have one already but it's fugly and outdated
@Ell I use my careers.so page
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I want to update
when I need to send a CV by email I export to pdf
and send that
and mention a link to my full page
@CatPlusPlus Says... you?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I was gonna say that, but I decided not to.
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18:40
Glad someone else did, though. :D
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF VS still requires a startup even though it told me to close everything so i wouldn't have to.
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Fuck VS. :c
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I'm sorry you received an incorrect tracking number. It is due to a problem with status updates between our server and the logistics company. It has been fixed (I think), and you should receive correct tracking numbers in the future. If your order has already arrived I'm sorry for bugging you with unneeded emails.
Nice customer service.
@ThePhD Requires a what?
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@ThePhD installing VS2013 didn't require a restart for me!
Oh. That.
I stopped halfway through typing my password to write that message.
18:50
@Xeo it does in some situations
last time it did for me when I installed it on a clean windows install
but the time before it didn't
@Puppy make sure your interviews will look like that
lol
@Ell I ain't no wizz but I used moderncv with LaTeX.
So, I was interviewed for a position at NCR, Prague. One of design questions was for an elevator system with multiple elevators. I immediately thought about the (I think) classical algorithm where the elevator moves in one direction as long as there are people waiting to ride in that direction. Is there a better elevator algorithm?
19:08
What do you want to maximise?
@R.MartinhoFernandes That criterion was not part of the question.
then it's a dumb question
"better" in what regard, exactly?
@Puppy Well, I do not know. I am asking in general. I do not have any kind of betterness criterion either. :D
then I suggest the "None" algorithm, where you add 0 elevators.
it's super-duper cheap and doesn't fail any of the desired criterion.
@VáclavZeman The usual criterion is something like "minimize passengers' average waiting time".
@R.MartinhoFernandes Interesting!
Apparently the night stores have been giving me a reduction in beer price for a while.
Apparently because I'm a good customer. I didn't even notice I was paying less.
I'm never going to take an elevator ever again.
Behind every programmer there are bugs.
@Jefffrey watch behind you
19:19
bugs
@StackedCrooked Probably means you've been buying more beer!
@Jefffrey I just recognized you as a programmer. Isn't that nice? :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes It means I can pay with a single bill of 10 EUR for a pack.
I don't wanna be a programmer.
They seem to have noticed that I go for minimum hassle.
@Jefffrey The bugs are gone!
19:23
@Jefffrey From what I've heard, the programming primarily governs what floors they go to in what order. Safety mechanisms are (at least normally) hard wired. If you want to avoid computers in transportation, nearly your only choices are walking and bicycles.
Even bicycles may be open to question (many have computerized speedometer, odometer, etc.)
Elevators are one the safest means of travel available.
@JerryCoffin Which are both very good for your health.
@Jefffrey I've nothing against either one, but there are purposes/circumstances for which they're basically inadequate.
nutella toast
now I want some toast :\
I should also ask my parents to bring me some homemade jam
Xeo
Xeo
Hm, I need to watch Mahouka still
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I kind of want a lot of people to make low-quality 3D-printed guns and try firing them and lose their fingers in the process.
@Jefffrey Somewhat, but I think those who find it the scariest have been deluding themselves. It's certainly true that a 3D printer is a lot less expensive (and more versatile) than most machine tools. Nonetheless, it's been a long time since making a firearm on your own was extremely difficult. This is especially true if you don't care much about accuracy or longevity.
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Or safety.
oh god
I just saw the the price of uVision for Cortex-M
$3,850
19:47
@nil I suppose that makes things a little easier, but it's easy enough to build one that's reasonably safe that compromising in that regard probably won't make a huge difference.
@JerryCoffin I'm having trouble understanding that message.
Oh wait. Got it.
ah crap
I'm infested with puppies
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I'm infested with parrots and cats.
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I wish I had some chickens.
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And pigeons.
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19:49
And a seagull buddy.
the woofmachine here is infesting me because the parents are gone
@Jefffrey Short summary: this is more visible, but doesn't really change a lot. 3D printing makes it quicker and easier, but even without that, it's been pretty easy to build firearms for years now.
fleabag
muttkins
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have such rep of being unbeatable at RPS among my old buddies that whenever we realise something can only be decided by some arbitrary decision means like RPS, some of them just concede defeat without playing.
Blender's been so useful since I learned how to UV map
I can do anything
it will look like crap, but I can do 3D graphics for anything
and anyway, by today's standards this is called indie and is beautiful
19:54
@StackedCrooked To be honest, I'm willing to call foul on any use of reinterpret_cast that can be replaced with a call to memcpy.
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I've been. thiking about reinterpret cast lately
@R.MartinhoFernandes They obviously need to switch to Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock.
i want to see how the "request to reopen" thing works... may i just delete my books-question answer and let you vote to reopen it?
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok
19:56
i wonder what happens then
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Laugh tracks ಠ_ಠ
@JohannesSchaub-litb is this about @sbi's book question?
yes let's test
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I hate that I can never find anything to do on Sundays.
Greetings all, I'm having trouble writing a hello world app for a C++ library (Skia). My lack of C++ skills might have something to do with it.
19:59
@StackedCrooked i have deleted temporarily. please vote!
@R.MartinhoFernandes Definitely.
@nil Isn't that the point of Sunday, to do nothing?
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The news is dead so there's no anti-gay-marriage stuff for me to make myself feel mad about and otherwise nothing's happening.
@ThePhD Thinking what about it?
Anyone used Skia or willing to look into to help me out?
20:00
no.
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No.
@Jacks_Gulch what's taht
@JohannesSchaub-litb I don't see a re-open button for deleted questions. Maybe I don't have enough rep..?
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Skia is some 2D library Google bought and it's a piece of crap
@nil What makes you say that?
20:01
@StackedCrooked ohh that's bad :( so I undeleted it again. it only works if there is a "vote for undelete".
@StackedCrooked hm i can click on undelete on any deleted question to add a vote!
I was afraid you did something irreversible :)
I'm glad I can see deleted questions though.
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Alright, up-to-date with anime for this week. What to do now...
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More anime.
20:03
@Xeo Aldnoah zero and SAO?
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I ran out of stuff to watch 'cause I'm only watching Aldnoah.
@StackedCrooked SOA?
@sbi you may want to accept my answer so that I won't delete the answer when I get drunk!
@Jefffrey sorry, fixed :)
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Aldnoah.Zero, Zankyou no Terror, Space Dandy and JoJo I watch at my friend's place. Mahouka I watch at home (since he doesn't watch it).
20:04
@nil In case you are looking for recommendations: Zankyou no Terror :)
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It's not on Crunchyroll and I'm not interested in signing up for Funimation again
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Otherwise I'd probably be following that too
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I'll probably have to sign up for Funimation again when Psycho Pass 2 starts though.
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@StackedCrooked Zankyou was good this week. Though I find Five already annoying, since she's a know-it-all.
@StackedCrooked I'm not actually watching SAO. :D
It's probably my favorite series this season.
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20:12
Just found out I can watch all but the latest episode for free, so that works
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welp, guess I'll just continue with Comyu
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Guess I'll blow through all the current episodes then work on my VM some more
Oh. I didn't realise you guys paid for all that anime.
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I don't have to since I could do the whole fansub thing, but my policy's been to pay for it if it's made available legally
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I doubt it has any effect on whether stuff makes it to the US, but at least I'm putting my money where my mouth is
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20:16
Recently a lot of Japanese companies have begun suing US-based Manga sites for hosting their copyright, even if the fans are the ones doing the translations.
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Usually they sue through Funamtion or some other arm of Anime/Manga distributors in the US
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From what I've heard, meaning I have no damn idea if it's actually the case, the Japanese just don't want their stuff over here period
The fuck. Headphones are on, volume is up, sound is playing, headphones are on my ears. No sound.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes are the headphones actually plugged in?
Hello, Cruel World!
20:24
brb, rebooting.
exceptionally cruel
@ThePhD When does school start again?
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Eh?
aren't you in school? or did you graduate?
oh wait...there might be some consfusion because of my new avatar and name....
apprentice-hacker, I'm guessing.
20:30
Aaaaand it works now.
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I think university starts here around the 21st or so
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It'd be nice if I could afford to go back and get another bachelor's or three.
BSU starts on the 25th...hopefully tutoring will pick up again shortly after that...
graduated three months ago. It sucks here in Florida.
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Tutoring probably won't pick up until around a month in I'd guess
20:34
That's been my exprience as well
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Just basing that off my experience around when the difficulty starts at BSU
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@Code-Apprentice I start school again in september, but I'll also be working fulltime.
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By one month, everyone will be aware of the midterms and some people will start freaking out
@ThePhD Good luck with that!
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Would be nice to be back in Boise again. The writing community there's pretty swell.
20:35
I have one student from the summer that will be taking another physics class. Hopefully he won't wait until a month in to contact me for help.
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I only ever ended up tutoring symbolic logic at BSU unofficially (i.e., people would ask for help and I'd just help 'em 'cause I had nothing better to do)
I should advertise for that, too...
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Also helped a few students with intro CS stuff at NIC when I was there
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Anyone with a working brain can tutor logic, so yeah, you should.
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BSU only teaches introductory logic and symbolic logic, so you'll never end up dealing with anything really advanced
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20:44
Actually, the only difficult part might be if Tony is teaching one of the symbolic logic classes, 'cause he's a) a good teacher and b) more than happy to start going into stuff like modal logic by the end of the semester 'cause he'll run out of stuff that's covered by the course
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Though me calling someone a good teacher isn't really special. I liked all of my teachers.
well, lunch time is over...time to get back to work
@nil Lucky you
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I was an English major. It's hard to find bad university English teachers.
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Not impossible, but hard.
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20:55
God damn you, Hulu
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God damn your very existence
lol

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