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17:02
@thecoshman lol
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Q: How to deal with the "Team leader" who hates StackOverflow contributing developers

Rajaprabhu AravindasamyWe are working in a software company and in our team, we have a lead and he simply don't like the developers who try to contribute SO in a regular basis (meaning try to hit the rep cap daily). Though we finish out the work in a given period of time, he doesn't want us to contribute to SO in our d...

ahahaha, that guy
Rather, he's poking us to provide support for mediocre developers who struggle to complete their task on time.
What an unfair thing to ask him!
seems to me like the obvious solution is to get the mediocre developers to ask SO questions for help :P
@Xeo Gee, people these days.
"What an ass, wants us to help our coworkers"
that miserable motherfucker.
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I mean, really. If he likes helping "mediocre developers" on SO, why the fuck not at work? Because he doesn't get Imaginary Internet Points™ for it?
17:12
try to contribute SO in a regular basis (meaning try to hit the rep cap daily)
Says it all.
@Jefffrey eh
lots of such mistakes here
He thinks it's important enough to mention hitting the rep cap every day.
@Puppy not really, like few hundred m high, falling at 10ms. It was clearly not drag that pulled me off the ship, as I fell straight down away from it
You clearly do not understand the concept of the word team. Contributing to SO is not seriously increasing your skills. However, teaching someone how to perform tasks or help them overcome their obstacles does. Your allegiance should be to your team, not to your SO profile. — Joel Etherton 29 mins ago
@Xeo The smell of arrogance is thick.
17:16
@thecoshman Yeah, the Kerbal should be able to hold on in that scenario.
they didn't fix the EVA controls either.
that shit is super annoying
@Puppy I felt very just in rage quiting
I shoulda taken the picture of kb before dissasembling keys
Also screen kb not as slow as i thought
but
I think that in general, First Contract seems to be great.
I got a contract to rescue a Kerbal from orbit right after I first got to orbit.
plotting an interception without MechJeb's support was... challenging.
my kb aint pretty inside
the procedural text is a bit too jarring, though, and there are too many "Just go here and activate part Y" contracts, at least so far.
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17:21
@Xeo boss key
there will be mods soon with more types probably
well, I think the rescue contract is really working.
and I like the new incentives to keep rockets small and bring back everything you can
I don't like trying to land next to KSC though because it's fucking impossible to see that shit from orbit and it's hard to factor in air resistance/parachute when plotting the course
but then again, I just realized I have no idea how the fuck to rescue this guy when I can't control him
and you can't zoom in close enough to the orbits to perform <500m maneuvers
@Puppy atm the contracts are not random... or at least the early ones aren't
@Puppy you can once you get close enough
not using the usual controls, though.
@Puppy it just takes practice
17:31
I'm not the only one who had trouble.
@EtiennedeMartel ARghfh.
you can only switch to the EVA guy using the hotkey.
@Puppy oh?
@R.MartinhoFernandes So I guess it's a no, then.
17:35
@EtiennedeMartel It's a rabid no.
What's going on eh?
you can be honest with us, your Internet buddies
I'm a dumbass, that's all.
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Did you forget another 40 bucks int he ATM?
17:47
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ what this time?
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Q: C++ component based design engine: storing entities

xterminal86I am trying to write a component based game engine. Right now everything is just a start, so I came up with this design (partial code): class Component { public: Component(); virtual ~Component(); virtual void Update() = 0; protected: GameObject* _ownerGameObjectPointer = nu...

People just love asking these
hmmm
some contracts randomly award WAY more than others
I got a bunch of "Test Part X in Situation Y" contracts, and they're worth <1000, but the one that's "Test Mainsail in Orbit around Kerbin" is worth 380k
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@MohammadAliBaydoun lol new
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naaarf. I wanna build my PC :<
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$ make pc
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17:58
pcb: error: psu: no such part
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POST detects lack of PSU, lol.
Yay! Its Friday Evening!
@TonyTheLion I still have a day of work ahead of me. :(
suxorz
I spent the entire day trying to fix a bug
that eludes me
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18:14
@Xeo Missing parts?
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15 mins ago, by Xeo
pcb: error: psu: no such part
@Mysticial You got Mahouka tomorrow though!
@Xeo I didn't know that. Fuck you. :)
Hi there. How are you developers???
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@TonyTheLion OWNED
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@Felix-Robinchik How I am a developer? By developing.
18:16
@rightfold I was going to say the same thing.
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Developers Developers Developers Developers....
@thecoshman I forgot to rent a car on time and apparently everything is sold out tomorrow and this is the third time I fuck this up. Well, the other times it was the weather, but this time it was totally me.
oh robot
Then what you are here?@to
@TonyTheLion Where you went?
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I live in a developing country. It develops lots of products.
18:17
Talking on the phone is incredibly draining for me.
@Felix-Robinchik I'm here. I didn't went anywhere.
Which country?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Then don't talk on the phone
@Felix-Robinchik Does it matter?
@TonyTheLion I called rental agencies.
I feel like you're stalking me
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh those
18:18
@R.MartinhoFernandes Every pause feels like eternity
I hate talking on the phone
Also the audio quality tends to be bad and I end up missing every 5th word
You know what I find draining?
Trying to fix a bug that you can't find.
Alcohol?
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@Felix-Robinchik The country of homosexual weed-smoking hookers wearing wooden shoes.
I was close
@TonyTheLion That's what I did today at work.
18:19
Why you hate to talk on phone?
I just said why
@R.MartinhoFernandes Same here.
I'm also under pressure to finish this thing
O that is worst one. Can you name it?
which isn't helping
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These phones are made for talking.
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18:20
And that’s just what they’ll do.
I also have accumulated some 14 hours of sleep deficit this week.
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Oh wait, they do many things (and coincidentally all pretty badly).
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's worse than me
you win
I don't do sleep deficit
if I don't have enough sleep, I can't work
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Kony the Lion
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Do you program in your spare time?
18:21
no
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I never hear you talk about it.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't!
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OIC.
I gave that up about 2 years ago
At least I wasn't chasing after some bogus MSVC error.
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18:22
I only fixed bugs that I already knew how to fix
and I implemented lotsa stuff
you bastard
(That's in another branch that I paused for a round of bug fixing)
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actually depleted my work pool
and had to get some more
My work pool has this one animation bug, and getting the other branch to compile on MSVC.
my work pool has a threading bug, or what looks like one, but possibly isn't one.
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18:23
Now I got some small stuff to do on Monday. Dunno bout after that
I always get all the animation bugs.
I have huge amount of work on my pile
Boss says that's because I'm the smarter. :<
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Cameramen why do you film the fucking speaker and not the goddamn slides.
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Why not both?
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18:24
@TonyTheLion I had for the past week
finished it all up though
I should leave for dinner now but I don't feel like cycling.
oh, mine is for a while ahead in the future
I don't feel like leaving this chair, actually.
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I like how I have almost zero bugs in my server-side implementation stuff
@R.MartinhoFernandes order something
I am developing LAN chat messenger in java. I have a problem with audio module.
18:24
I'm in the office.
I'm the living proof that bugs exist
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@R.MartinhoFernandes So?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Order pizza
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A bunch of us orders every Friday at work.
And beer
18:25
Also, I'm supposed to meet my friends for dinner.
@R.MartinhoFernandes rent car for what?
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@TonyTheLion Mine would be too, if we actually knew what we were supposed to do!
I was supposed to go out tonight
but its too hot
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ where's your cape captain?
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18:26
We got some contract work, and there are like... no definitions at all of what needs to be done
especially on the client / UI side of things
which is annoying
Yea, getting a spec is something I can only dream of
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mostly its just "I need something that needs to do this and this", do it please
And now the last coworker left.
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At least we have a rough layout of some features we'll definitly need
so I can implement those on the server
which is fun, 'cause C++ \o/
Luckily I get to stay mostly in C#
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I was not being sarcastic, FWIW
18:28
I know
I used to like C++ too
then my previous job came along
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heh
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Meh C#.
and the love turned to hate
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I have been working with AS3 exclusively for almost a year :<
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PHP :D
18:30
Java... and what's worse... I think Stockholm syndrome is taking effect :\
The worst thing I currently have to deal with at times is MFC.
Ewwwww
I'd like to take off into these woods and get good and lost for a while.
Today's theme vimeo.com/1882847
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Until the beginning of September I’ll have to work in a code base written by incompetent people. :v
I think you're a master at the art of getting lost.
So shouldn't be too hard
incompetent people.
@rightfold lol, you think you have an end date
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18:33
@TonyTheLion Noobs!
I feel like a noob half the time.
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@thecoshman Pretty much, since that’s when the next project starts. (Brand new product, from scratch! Yay!)
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And it has to be done by then, since there’s a demo that day.
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But the changes aren’t very dramatic.
I saw this the other day if (true /* commented out code */)
Seriously?
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18:35
Don’t worry; compiler will optimise it out.
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I do that for debugging
Ah, I can set the headphones to 11 now that everyone left.
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guess you won't go to that dinner?
@rightfold aka the day they decide to add a butt tonne more to it :P
Estimating how long something will take has to be my pet peeve
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18:37
@thecoshman I can’t work on it then, because I’m working on something else.
@R.MartinhoFernandes o_0 the logic there is...
cause, no matter what you say, its always wrong
@rightfold we'll see :P
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They can add as much as they want. I don’t mind.
@TonyTheLion vOv that's why you don't
18:38
@thecoshman so what should I say then?
@thecoshman These things have a switch that says "LO" and "HI". At LO I can set the volume to max and other people won't hear any noise from it. At HI it can get quite noisy.
@TonyTheLion 40 years
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Also, I just realised.
seriously
18:40
I don't set the volume over 50% if on HI. It's painful.
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You cannot pass null to my wrapper of PreparedStatement, unless you cast it.
you can't give estimate worth paying attention to more than a few days. So if they want to know how long the hole project will take, they just can't know
@TonyTheLion You gotta remember how you estimated similar things earlier, and how much time they actually took
@thecoshman Oh, yes, clients are so happy to give unlimited time and money to the project
besides, chances are they don't want to know when you can finish it, they want to know how finished it will be by the deadline they have already decided
@CatPlusPlus Well, this particular thing there's no previous, I've never done this before
18:41
@Xeo Dunno. I want to, but I don't want the going there.
Then just guess
Base it on something similar
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I made an estimate of four hours for a feature last week.
@CatPlusPlus no, equally they are not willing to pay enough and/or wait long enough for everything they want
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I implemented it in one minute.
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It was surprisingly easy.
18:42
damn
I'm definitely noticing that First Contract's physics are... buggy.
@CatPlusPlus no. you are wasting everyone's time by throwing out a 'guess', estimate it properly or not at all.
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@FredOverflow you there?
@thecoshman They do want everything that was specified to be done
@thecoshman Do you know what 'estimate' means
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Oh god.
You can't not estimate your work jesus that's dumb
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18:44
Gonna open IntelliJ, but it’s already so hot. ;_;
@CatPlusPlus guess is based on nothing, estimate are based on something
And a wild guess is based on Pokémon.
@CatPlusPlus most likely, but they are probably going to have to drop something.
We rarely drop features, and we get estimates with 20-30% leeway p good
software is rarely done on time
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18:45
I always multiply my original estimate by 1.5 or 2.
@TonyTheLion exactly, it is almost done ahead of time, totes
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Just to be sure.
In my previous work, C++ projects regularly overran by months
Then you don't refine your estimates based on experience, i.e. you don't learn and you're bad
And are possibly bad at running projects
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Oh, of course.
18:50
Fuck it. I'm leaving.
still in the chair
Ok, I'm not.
hi
I actually got up out of my chair to make some food
win
hello
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18:50
@TonyTheLion "food"
what do you mean?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Better call whoever is waiting for you
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@TonyTheLion char
It's an RSVP-less thing.
I mean, no one will wait.
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ah
18:52
Which is likely to be more efficient in clearing a std::stringsteam?

ss = std::stringstream();

or:

ss.clear();
ss.str(std::string());
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The profiler.
Just use clear.
I've never seen it done the top way
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.clear() clears the failflags
ss.str("") is the way to clear a stringstream's buffer
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18:53
@Xeo Lounge<C++>.clear()!
Too many failflags in that
ss.str(""); ss.clear();
failfags
Just create a new one
inb4 performance
18:53
You will forget about those stupid flags
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Forget about C++.
thanks.
@Chimera, btw, I'm going to give this a try: oshpark.com
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18:55
Is it possible to git push including tags, but not only tags, without running git push twice?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, I've heard good things about them. They started out as the batch service created by sparkfun.com
@rightfold what?
@rightfold Unfortunately no.
@rightfold Just add refspecs.
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Ugh.
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18:56
@thecoshman I want a combination of git push and git push --tags.
git push --tags master origin or so.
Or git push --all --tags
those didn't work when I tried them on git v1.8.4
idk if they work on newer versions of git (?)
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Let’s try.
or maybe I was doing it wrong
oh
@rightfold git v1.8.4 added git push --follow-tags.
It should work on newer ones
18:59
Oh. --all and --tags are incompatible.
But refspecs work.
/usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/fileutils.rb:1406:in `unlink': Operation not permitted - /vagrant/modules/stdlib/CHANGELOG.md (Errno::EPERM)
(It's <remote> <refs>, though, not <refs> <remote>)
vboxsf is not very good
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A: How to make "git push" include tags within a branch?

VonCYou can try, with git1.8.3+ (May 2013): git push --follow-tags The new "--follow-tags" option tells "git push" to push relevant annotated tags when pushing branches out. This won't push all the tags, but only the ones accessible from the branch(es) HEAD(s) you are pushing.

I guess pushing refs/tags/* also works.
19:02
@AlexM. Here
Ok, now I'm really leaving. Should have arrived three minutes ago.
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@Rapptz ganz geil.
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@Jefffrey Is that a quattro stagioni?
"Vegetariana"
My favourite pizza is vegetarian. Margherita.
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19:04
Oh, I see.
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It looks yummy.
It was
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was
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;_;
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Most pizzas are vegetarians. At least, in my experience.
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19:05
I have never seen a pizza eat any meat.
I could barely wait enough to take the picture. Let alone posting it here.
It was also smaller than I remembered. Just 30cm diameter.
That's what
Never mind.
@NikosAthanasiou HI.
@R.MartinhoFernandes she said?! xD
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H2 in-memory is neat.
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19:10
Time to take a shit and then take a shower.
I just ate 1.2kg of Fried Chicken Tenderloins
No regrets
You will, you will.
@MohammadAliBaydoun I had 3 beers.
I want beer
I want Smirnoff Ice ;_;
@MohammadAliBaydoun wait aren't you Magtheridon96?
19:20
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, that would be me c:
I'm using my real name now because ~reasons~
Why is sudo resolving hosts
@MohammadAliBaydoun real photo too?
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, that's me winking ;_;
nice
@MohammadAliBaydoun I've imagined you closer to me and @thecoshman
more skinny and nerdy
19:23
From what I understand, sudo can perform commands on several different hosts, hence it needs to know what host it's on.
Ugh
I'm on the line between overweight and obese
Bug report from 2007
Why is this in fucking sudo
I love you Cat
@Jefffrey I'm already starting to regret that Chicken. Gosh.
I didn't even finish it all
@MohammadAliBaydoun hard to tell from the face
well I'd say I'll meet you in person and judge but I guess it's unlikely you'll come for 2nd unconference to Poland
@BartekBanachewicz If I rake in enough cash within the next 5 years, I'm going to be everywhere
19:30
@BartekBanachewicz London FTFY
@thecoshman nope it's at Cat's place
@MohammadAliBaydoun Staying in Poland is pretty cheap at least.
and I'll be able to host a few people (if it's in Gdańsk after all)
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, he's moving to London
@thecoshman wat
@BartekBanachewicz by force
19:31
@thecoshman OIC
what is a payment plan? Why does it say $32.17 per month?
@Jefffrey looks tasty :D
@Jefffrey Random texting?
19:47
@BartekBanachewicz Really?
@TonyTheLion The Polish people think they can have a say in this. It's London :P
@AlexM. /You/ look tasty ;_;
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@TonyTheLion Are you a good actor? I’m making a movie about lions.
@MohammadAliBaydoun sorry, I'm all @rightfold's
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<3
19:51
@rightfold I'm terrible at acting
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Damn.
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I think I’ll never be able to release The Lion Centipede then. :[
what
the
fuck
hmm, reaction wheels buffed in First Contract
I'm sweating my bullocks off
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19:55
buttocks
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Thanks! I'll accept this in 11 minutes — tba 23 secs ago
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That username.
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To be arsed.
I spelt it wrong
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19:57
bullock |ˈbʊlək|
noun
a male domestic bovine animal that has been castrated and is raised for beef.
Who castrated you?
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@Jefffrey did. :3
@Jefffrey You monster.
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Damn, I just found a little info on how to build an automatic mahjong table. I'm tempted. /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
Unfortunately, I have no way to make the frame n stuff

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