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11:00 AM
@FredOverflow 5/10, it doesn't really put the ha in haskell
 
I once had a job interviewer who pronounced it like a French name Haskelle.
 
that sounds like a name for a hot nerd chick
 
It turned out to be a smalltalk-oriented workplace.
 
I'm doing a lot of code duplication
Feels wrong.
 
user3010322
11:03 AM
Feel bad.
 
After the interview I knew I didn't want to work there. A few days later I got a phone call saying I was rejected. Even though I didn't want the job I still felt bad because I had never been rejected for a job before.
 
user3010322
Feel very bad.
 
Cheer up @ThePhD!
 
is the lack of get/set in names in C++ a standard thing?
 
There is this_thread::get_id()
 
11:05 AM
@jalf Pretty much every sentence in the damn e-mail brings this antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/12/… to mind.
 
like for some object X, I'd expect x.value to be some field or property
but in fact it's a function
 
get/set is a Java thing
2
And it infected developers.
 
it makes sense
I like it a lot more than get/set
 
I actually use get and set even though I don't like it.
 
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I used to do thing.property(); to get and thing.property( value ); to set.
 
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11:10 AM
But someone told me doing that was horrible, so I stopped.
 
who?
 
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I forgot. It was years ago.
 
@ThePhD boost does that a lot
 
And behold, two revisions before, "Fixed incorrect blurb about C++ being a superset of C."
 
error: expected initializer before ‘coonst’
 
And before... "Improved grammer." What does the edit do? Replace "based on" with "that is a superset of"
 
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cooooooooooooooonst!
 
I wish we could lock the tag wiki.
 
11:16 AM
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sir "the same" means it will not matter whether you use first equation to solve the other and vice versa. — Singh 1 min ago
> Sir
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wish we could simply shoot half the population to death.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Jesus that's bad.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes meta it
 
Maybe later.
Lunch time now.
 
11:18 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I rolled it back.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
Flagging? I wish we could lock the tag wikis. The number of times I've had to fix some nonsense that someone put into the two or three tag wikis I curate is really annoying. People do all kinds of crap to tag wikis and the freaking reviewers approve all kinds of crap and things like "hello world" programs that are not even valid programs get there in the tag wiki and people make "Improved grammer." edits that actually just reword things into lies and fuck this shit. — R. Martinho Fernandes 2 mins ago
There, ranted.
 
looool
well problem is there's no way for the system to prove that we know what we're talking about. who gets to lock wikis? gold badge holders maybe. not all of them have a clue, though
 
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Is there OpenCV for C#?
 
user3010322
11:22 AM
I sure hope there is.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think not allowing suggested edits would be a good start.
 
FIRST FUCKING GOOGLE RESULT
@R.MartinhoFernandes or only allowing suggested edits
 
Tag wikis take 20k to edit fully, IIRC.
 
if you want peer review, give it peer review
ok
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No. Reviewers are the worst part of the whole system.
 
11:23 AM
I've made tag wiki edits :(
 
Reviewers should be reviewable.
 
They used to take 20k to edit, but now any dumbass can make edits because reviewers.
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... Is something about EmguCV, but that has a commercial license.
 
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But I found I cooler one: github.com/shimat/opencvsharp
 
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It even has NuGet packages! \o/
 
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11:26 AM
Now do I really wanna develop the thing I'm thinking of in C#...
 
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..... Nyeh. Probably not. Let's do DAT C++.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I mean, I don't think suggested edits are a bad idea per se, but they're unworkable in the current system.
 
Is there a way to do a cas loop on 2 ints at once? The equivalent functionality of: if(x == atomicX){ atomicX = x; atomicY = y; }
 
@ThePhD maybe the old version
 
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1 min ago, by ThePhD
But I found I cooler one: https://github.com/shimat/opencvsharp
 
user3010322
11:27 AM
:D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that seems to me like there need to be quality control tests on tag wiki approvals just like their are on edit approvals
 
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Even Mono-compatible.
 
@ThePhD that is the old one
 
user3010322
How is that old?
 
there's 3.x already
 
11:28 AM
@Mgetz I don't know if there are enough tag wiki edits for that to work.
 
2.x is the lame-ass C version for savages
 
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4 hours ago.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it might have to be a bit artificial
just to weed out the bad reviewers
 
oh wait maybe I'm wrong
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okey, nevermind
 
11:30 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just make a system where the more questions a tag has, the more people need to approve it.
 
they fucked up versions on their page and that misled me
 
So for basic tags with <1k questions 3 approvals would work fine.
 
this async stuff is interesting
 
But for something like C++ with ~300k you'd need like.. iunno, like 10-12.
 
I never really thought about programming like this
before I'd just thread and semaphore the shit out of everything
 
11:31 AM
that's very low-level
the modern way would be using promises, I suppose.
 
what's lol
 
@AlexM. You should check out tbb::concurrent_bounded_queue.
 
promises are bad okay, nobody keeps theirs, ever
 
@BartekBanachewicz "modern"
1976-modern.
 
11:32 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes hah okay lol
I blame C programmers
always blame C programmers
 
Futures have the drawback of costly thread-wakeup.
 
hindering the progress since the 70s
 
anyway, I haven't met a single familiar concept in these 5 days I spent at gameloft
basically I learned something new everyday so far
 
You'll probably die soon
 
well the point of the project was to learn so I guess that makes sense
 
11:34 AM
speaking of projects that are made to learn
 
There's this book 7 concurrency models in 7 weeks.
 
aaargh, dns is so hilariously broken
 
I should work on Turnip a bit
 
or rather, apparently no one in the whole wide world can set up a functioning dns server for a company
 
11:35 AM
I managed it okay
 
I like how every time Bartek suggests he might be or is wrong, it gets starred.
 
If I had a million dollars for every time I've had to investigate a "customer X is complaining that functionality Y is really slow" and found the result to be misconfigured DNS, I'd have a lot of money.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes we like to star rare events
 
svn externals are so slow
 
11:36 AM
so dns isn't broken; people are
 
@StackedCrooked it's probably DNS's fault :D
 
@StackedCrooked it's a lot faster with svn:// than it is with http[s]://
 
We use svn+ssh://
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit DNS is people too!
 
@jalf Well. Just once would give you a lot of money.
 
11:37 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You want to tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing?
@Rapptz Maybe it's only happened once and he's mad
 
@Rapptz but I would have a lot more than that
 
std::bind looks useful
 
> If complete and utter chaos was lightning, then he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armour and shouting 'All gods are bastards!
 
@AlexM. it... is.
 
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@AlexM. DON'T DO IT
 
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11:38 AM
RUUUuuuuuuuUUuuUuuUuuUn.
 
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Okay.
 
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So I need ot be at work in 2 hours.
 
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.... I think now would be a good time to close my eyes to just rest them a little bit.
 
it's like storing a function call for later
realization
 
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I am pretty tired.... just a little rest....
 
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11:39 AM
Also where the fuck is CatPlusPlus. :c
 
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Has anyone ever donated to the loungecpp server or to cat?
 
I'm thinking about donating to @StackedCrooked
 
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Do they know his paypal URL?
 
his coliru helped me a lot
these 5 days
I'd also vote it for site of the year
 
No need to rush it.
 
11:41 AM
@AlexM. duh
 
@StackedCrooked lol this month I've been moneyless, since I left my job after a ~1 month leave to study
so it'll have to wait until august :(
 
Alright.
I will take note.
;)
 
I did get some people upset when I left the old job
but really, I don't feel that guilty
 
did you give your 2 week notice?
 
I'm supposed to think about my future more
@Rapptz yes, I told them I'd be leaving and stuff
and it was decided that I do not need to stay the next 2 weeks
it's not exactly two weeks here though, it's 20 working days
that's 4 weeks
 
11:45 AM
No one wants @ThePhD's money.
 
When I got fired back in 2009 I had to leave the building immediately (which was a standard procedure) and got 3 months of payment the same week.
 
@AlexM. i hope my boss will arrange the same for me :/
 
as good a tool Unity might be, I think it was a mistake for them to try it out, as I was the only one knowing how to use it, and chances are there were no others with my skills in my city
 
he's coming back on monday
 
when I left, unity became redundant in the company
 
11:46 AM
and I want to quit on 1st
 
which is the reason they were so angry, I think
 
Redundant?
 
nobody else was able to use it
so there was no real reason to keep paying the fee for it
 
Ubuntu Unity?
 
no, unity the engine
 
11:46 AM
@StackedCrooked ubuntity
 
I used to write unity games before I went to gameloft
 
before it was cool
 
I don't think unity games generated enough revenue either
 
And what, they threw out all the code?
 
so by all means, in my view, it was a failed experiment
@R.MartinhoFernandes dunno, don't care about what happened next
 
11:47 AM
I recently figured out that "unity" probably refers to a united interface for PC/mobile. Which is the stupidest idea ever.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a trap that I shan't be falling into again. I was promised donations days ago and they never came.
@StackedCrooked What did you do?
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit I recall no such thing!
 
> days ago
@ThePhD see you already forgot
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He was posting lewd images on Lounge<C++>.
 
11:49 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was working as a desktop developer for a (mostly) web company. They didn't need new desktop applications anymore and during my last performance review I said I didn't really want to become a web developer.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Also 5 people in total got fired that day.
 
lol
I connected to a random machine at work
 
And many more in the coming weeks.
 
and it has a touchscreen
 
Being a web developer sounds really boring to me
 
@StackedCrooked Sounds like you were made redundant rather than fired (which implies wrongdoing, at least here)
 
11:50 AM
ITT Bartek gets fired for unauthorized system access
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh.
 
that's the second time someone has used the word "redundant"
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@Rapptz ironic, isn't it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We have distinction between "fired" and "fired on standing foot". The latter means you did something gravely wrong.
 
@StackedCrooked loooool
 
11:52 AM
Like unauthorized system access
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It happens e.g. if you got caught stealing money from the workplace or something. Or they find out your degree is fake.
 
oh look
my shitty code doesn't crash the nvidia driver
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
return "#version 310 es\n"
       "precision lowp float;\n";
 
@BartekBanachewicz It'd be better to build for every distro under the sun than use a VM disguised as a "portable" app...
 
the most evil place for a semicolon
@rubenvb my thoughts exactly
AAARGH
VS2013 has tabs by default
 
@Stacked what if they find out your business cards accidentally say you're an engineer?
 
11:56 AM
now my fucking code is full of tabs
:/
for fucks sake.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I got business cards from my work telling me I'm an engineer.
Even though I'm not an engineer.
 
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> Unnecessary repetitions that say the same thing twice, and add nothing, are often redundant and useless. That says AFM director Hans Hoogervorst. Hoogervorst is director of the AFM.
 
I've started the redundant trend
 
user1804599
The original article and video are in Dutch, though: youtube.com/watch?v=NHcsVyBu7To. Note that this video and the accompanying article are in Dutch.
 

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