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12:00 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes If it makes you feel better, I always walk in the bike lanes. ... Or just on the side of the road.
 
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I MAKE MY OWN SIDEWALK!
 
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/teleporthome
 
user784668
MSKLC wtf.
 
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It has its own CL, RC and LINK bundled, but for some reason it doesn't find them.
 
ВНИМАНИЕ
 
12:01 AM
@ThePhD wut
 
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(\/)(ºДº)(\/)
 
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ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД
 
user784668
☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
 
@rightfold Is that a pissed off crab?
 
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inb4 swastika godwin
 
12:04 AM
I've taken a pretty huge dump.
I'm so proud.
 
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@Jefffrey TMI
 
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@Borgleader Jawohl!
 
That rings a bell but I can't remember from where =/
 
@Jefffrey next time, plink the interested parties
 
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~~~
 
12:06 AM
@rightfold looks like a pig, complete with fron claws
 
user1804599
Weird pigs in your province.
 
user784668
Installed MSKLC as admin, works.
 
@rightfold std::rotate(str.begin(), str.begin() + 1, str.end());
 
user1804599
std::rotate only works with circular structures.
 
user1804599
It’s UB on rectangles.
 
12:10 AM
What on earth are you talking about?
 
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I’d say the Earth is pretty circular.
 
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8/10 would pass.
 
@Mysticial I said.
 
@rightfold either that, or a panda with crab claws
 
12:16 AM
@ThePhD Thanks. I don't need to feel good about my absent-mindedness/clumsiness/whatever. For the most part I learned to deal with it.
 
Youtube sells movie now?
 
Though today I'm quite annoyed by it.
 
@Jefffrey they have for a while yeah
 
@Borgleader It took me about a minute to realize that this was not about a tablet/phone version Logitech Harmony remote controllers
 
is it just me or are most online utilities to learn programming way too slow?
 
12:19 AM
Nah, it's just you being smarter.
 
Glad to see I'm still winning the starboard.
 
but I'm not smart ._. these things are like "we're gonna make a function! Can you say function?! Yeah isn't that a cool word?! Okay now go back to playing with your blocks"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm starting to find that sometimes I just really need help. I can feel handicapped when I'm trying to cook a meal but seem stuck randomly flailing between the kitchen, the cupboard and the kids. I ended up asking my wife to chip in - even though she had just arrived from work.
This was last wednesday. It's been a long time since I felt this absent
@Crow The real question is: "say, can you function"
 
I need to change this playlist.
Been running it for weeks now.
But change it to what.
 
I have a playlist ive been carrying around for years >.> (Some Boudoir Beats albums, and some Chillout ones too)
 
12:22 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Something else :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ernest Ranglin.
 
wait
 
@EtiennedeMartel sup
 
so: void f(int (*pf)(int)); is exactly the same as void f(int pf(int));?
 
12:28 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what kind of music do you like?
 
@Jefffrey Yep
Just like void f(int arr[5]) and void f(int *arr)
 
oh, it decays
I see
 
Yeah, AFAIK, function to function pointer decay has all the same behaviour as array to pointer decay.
 
@chris what is your avatar from?
 
@Borgleader Xenoblade Chronicles.
 
12:35 AM
is that the game they werent going to release in NA but people made petitions to get it?
 
Yeah, part of Operation Rainfall.
 
Operation Rainfall? Haven't heard of that
 
It's cool because the picture actually looks pretty similar to in-game, at least with the background stuff
Tbh I'd never heard of it, but ever since I played the game, I kept hearing about it.
Anyway, if JRPGs are of interest, play it.
 
I already too many games
and I don't have a Wii
 
@Crow Not dubstep.
 
12:38 AM
Though it does differ from traditional JRPGs a fair bit. For example, no grinding really needed.
Imo, it's nicer on Dolphin with the HD textures pack. I've played through it on that and the Wii, so I got both experiences I guess.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've been picking playlists at random on Spotify lately
 
If only their radio wasn't shit
So many repeats
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes if nothing else this has a cool music video: youtube.com/watch?v=b-V-xqf3LGs
 
Why is my D: drive root full of vcredist temp crap.
 
12:40 AM
Microsoft is bad at temp files
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes MSVS wants the D
 
@Jefffrey, I understand it can be frustrating, but having complete knowledge of a language is not a prerequisite for asking a question. Asking questions is a method of learning. — Adam S 4 hours ago
 
@Crow Oh gosh. Mute.
 
lol, my comment was flagged for removal /cc @puppy
 
@CatPlusPlus It's not even on the right disk.
 
12:41 AM
MS installers pick non-system drive for temp crap if they can
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how about something on a completely different note? Folk/acapella youtube.com/watch?v=BNHZce1TCa8
 
@CatPlusPlus And dump it on the freaking root :<
 
Uh.
Steam is also bonkers.
 
They've been doing this for years
@Crow That's a funny way of saying "cheesy as fuck"
 
12:43 AM
Says I don't have any game installed, but 766GB in the SteamApps folder says otherwise.
 
@CatPlusPlus it is, but it's also super low budget
 
No, really?
Who would've thought
 
did you guys all learn from c++ primer? can you guys recommend a book that is not that dull? i read a lot of science books, but reading c++ primer, i get lost because it is so bland
 
It decided to ignore my library on drive D.
FFS did they break this with the update?
 
user1804599
12:44 AM
@Crow programmer at 0:35.
 
Phew, fixed.
 
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@saloomi2012 Learn You a Haskell for Great Good! was very nice. Not dull at all.
 
I kinda like cheesy music videos. King of cheesy music videos: youtube.com/watch?v=yPNFVj-pISU
 
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Saved by GEMA
 
12:46 AM
@rig
@rightfold kinda wanted a C++ one
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I tried to use libraries, but then some game wanted to install to Steam folder anyway, so I said fuck it and moved the entire thing
 
you've won this round, rightfold
 
@CatPlusPlus Hmm, really?
 
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@saloomi2012 Meh.
 
I don't have space on the steam folder to install games.
 
12:47 AM
I don't remember which one was that, but some of them just didn't support the feature at the time
Maybe that changed, dunno
 
How is that even a thing.
@CatPlusPlus FWIW, my entire library works just fine in a separate folder.
174.
 
@saloomi2012 FWIW, I started learning C++ from Deitel's How to Program 5th edition because that's what the class in high school used. Be glad you have a book that is accepted.
 
i wish i was in a c++ class
school motivates me the most out of everything in the world
 
user1804599
C++ class is most likely to be shittier than C++ Primer.
 
I guess motivation is always good, but really, so much more of my C++ learning was outside of class
 
12:50 AM
why? School is so bad. Maybe it's just my school
 
c++ class that uses c++ primer i can work with
 
@Crow There's funny cheesy and there's terrible cheesy
 
And since that was the only C++ class I actually learned C++ in, I also learned how to fix that afterward
 
user1804599
C++ cannot be learnt. It can only be rediscovered.
 
ok maybe a faster paced book is what i need
 
12:51 AM
@CatPlusPlus eh, I just find pretty much all of it entertaining
 
anyone know of one?
 
user1804599
4281
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

 
@saloomi2012 Discworld
 
That's not a book.
 
It's a lot of books!
 
12:52 AM
@saloomi2012 github is a pretty good place to learn too, if you find a project similar to what you want to do. I learned a lot of flask by deconstructing 3-4 repos and seeing why they chose to do what they did
 
Reading others' code is a good thing, but not unfiltered
 
user1804599
Most C++ code on GitHub is shit even for C++ standards.
 
Just pointing people at GitHub is a terrible idea
 
Most C++ code is shit even for C++ standards.
 
eh, it's interesting to see how other people do things, imo. Just not really good to trust any reposity as a central hub of information, if you don't like it just change it
 
12:56 AM
Answer to "how other people do things" is "badly" most of the time
Also god people answering questions on Internet are dumb as fuck
Question: "Equivalent command for setlocal in Unix" First answer: "man setlocale"
:cripes:
And then 3 more people going on about locales
Jesus
 
the python code on github seems pretty good ._. although a lot of it is very brief examples
 
@CatPlusPlus Says the guy with 50k reputation on a Q&A website.
 
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@Crow Python is pretty difficult to get wrong unless you’ve never used anything but PHP.
 
@Jefffrey Yes most of people here are also idiots
 
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Even then much Python code on GH is probably shit. :P
 
user1804599
1:00 AM
I’m going to use “simpleton” instead of “idiot” from now on.
 
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Sounds like “singleton.”
 
I'm going to be a simpleton from now on
 
Oh, neat, now you can gift parts of the Humble Bundle.
 
That's been in for a while now
 
1:19 AM
Ok, so I have all three BioShocks out for gifting.
 
My brother gifted me BioShock 1 and 2 for my birthday
 
the codeacademy lesson on jquery was estimated at 3 hours but finished it in 20 mins :\
 
idgi
vagrant provision works when machine is fresh
But next time the script mysteriously doesn't run at all
Despite being uploaded properly and called and exiting with 0
 
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Make it work.
 
just believe, cat. Just believe
 
user1804599
1:29 AM
make.believe
 
user1804599
Why is everybody asleep?
 
it's a good thing I never sleep ◉◡◉
 
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More like —◡— then.
 
{◕ ◡ ◕}
 
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A real soldier never rests!
 
1:32 AM
@rightfold I'm not
I'm sick of the MH17 news by now. And the trolls in particular.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I bought it for BioShock trilogy. However, it's running without sound. :(
 
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> My dead girlfriend keeps messaging me on Facebook. I’ve got the screenshots. I don’t know what to do.
 
I might be able to salvage it. But otherwise I could "donate" gift it
> That being said, she wasn’t perfect
 
Aaaaaaaa I know
I put exits into profile.d shit
 
or set -e
 
And I've created that file during first provisioning run, so that explains why it suddenly stopped working
Okay maybe 7 hours straight of this wasn't the best idea
Yeeeeey fixed
 
1:49 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Let's be more general: the history of C++ and its continued similarity to C virtually ensure that the majority of C++ code always was and always will be pretty much crap.
 
I love you Jerry Coffin, no matter what kind of C++ you write
 
Imagining Jerry ducking in a corner, slowly recovering from the trigger event
Night all
 
Good night @sehe baby ~
 
2:07 AM
I kinda want to sell all my computers
 
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I hear aliens.
 
I hear decibels
 
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Decibel is a horrible unit.
 
@Crow I wish I could sell all my computers for as much as I paid for them. I'd be able to go buy a new car.
 
2:25 AM
@rightfold I created a new unit of sound level. 1 enraged woman = 12.5 bels
 
user3010322
3:21 AM
Paypal is fucking retarded.
 
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"You must add a bank account to pay."
 
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"You can't use your bank account for this transaction."
 
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<_________________>
 
user3010322
THANKS FOR MAKING ME ADD THE BANK ACCOUNT THEN.
 
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table-flip.
 
user3010322
3:23 AM
Fucking weasels forcing me to add information, only to kick me later.
 
3:34 AM
this looks like a pretty cool gaemb. gogigantic.com/media/videos/1
 
 
1 hour later…
4:59 AM
I wish there was more syntactic sugar for composition.
Something like alias this in D.
Private inheritance is close but I don't want the uglies.
 
user3010322
5:15 AM
Eh?
 
user3010322
Oh.
 
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Kinky.
 
user3010322
You can even subclass integers.
 
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Or rather, "alias" them.
 
6:23 AM
> Object forms the root of the D class inheritance hierarchy.
meh
 
6:46 AM
this is awesome
 
6:57 AM
Guess it's time to begin the long process of setting up a new system on a different hard drive. Dammit.
Current boot drive is up to ~400 reallocated sectors.
Fucking Seagate drives.
 
user3010322
7:13 AM
Lol, Seagate.
 
user3010322
What happened to WD?
 
WD is fine. The problem is: I'm not booting off of a WD drive.
And I don't have any spare internal non-Seagate drives.
I do have a brand new Seagate Barracuda.
I'll install on that and see how it holds up.
*By brand new, I mean never been used. But it's not really "new".
 
7:30 AM
I've slept less than 4 hours and I'm not tired. How dis work
 
Are you high?
 
Not intentionally, no.
 
7:50 AM
@Jefffrey the same way naps work
 
What the fuck. ICC14 gives a warning if a method parameter has the same name as a member.
And it spit out a billion of those from all my constructors.
 
just disable the bogus warning
 
@Xeo I wish all cyclists used the road
I just don't want to watch out for them every time I go for a walk
 
@Rapptz I am.
When VS2014 comes out, I'm gonna need to disable the variable shadowing warning as well.
I have an RAII status printer that kind of "abuses" the shadowing.
 
What the hell is EOT
0x04
how'd I end up with this
;-;
Oh..
I did std::string indentation(' ', 4); instead of std::string indentation(4, ' ');
5
 
8:00 AM
lol
newb
 
go back to sleep
 
it's so sexy when you give me orders
2 year old daughter just walked in the room, pointed her naked butt at me, and said "look at my booty". I am awesome at parenting.
 
what the
 
dafuq
 
man hyouka was a great anime
the main characters raised the bar so high for me that any other characters in other animes I watched feel like empty shells
 
8:16 AM
Ok ICC14, let's see what you're made of.
Now that I fixed/got rid of all the warning.
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Q: Is it okay to use unparliamentary words in code blocks?

Tilwin JoyI've flagged an answer in two different posts having few upvotes in one, and none in the other. The answer contains words like bitch , sexPistols etc in a small code block, which is not at all there in the actual question. (The actual question is, "how to store an Array in localStorage?" IMHO th...

^^ "unparliamentary"
 
whoa
it's been 2 years
github's UI has changed a bit since then though
 
8:32 AM
Hey, it's 1% faster.
Cool.
 
It has to be fast cause Rails.
 
8:48 AM
OMG I've just realized I'm terrible at commit messages.
 
@Rapptz haha classic GH
 
Xeo
@AlexM. maybe I should watch that
Did you check out Patema Inverted yet?
 
yeah
it's pretty awesome
 
dang
 
Xeo
I love Patema-the-character
 
8:58 AM
linux has 456k+ commits
 
also looking forward to the new Mahouka
 
Xeo
yeah
should be good
there'll be some Mirage Bat first, and then should be the Monolith Code finale
 
morning
 
Hmm. Is there something like (a -> Bool) -> (a -> Bool) -> (a -> Bool) that composes two (a -> Bool) with an AND?
 
Xeo
(&&) <$> f <*> g?
 
9:08 AM
Yup, thanks.
 
Hi do you guys think it would be a better idea to place functions in order in main() or would it be better practice to chain the functions. as is only call 1 or 2 functions in main() and then those functions sue the functions they ned with in their scopes
what is a better practice? as far as style goes? memory wise i realize I'm goign to be using more at one point because I'd be nesting functions.
The amount of memroy I'd use though is very tiny. I'm just concerned with style
:(
 
9:52 AM
> Linux has also been ported to itself. You can now run the kernel as a
userspace application - this is called UserMode Linux (UML).
huh? Why would you run a kernel as a userspace app?
 
10:05 AM
./test "did %{0} work %{1}"
"did (.)* work (.)*"
hell ye
got it
 
10:20 AM
@Xeo no, not yet
haven't had that much time to do stuff with how I drastically changed my sleep cycle
 
@user2372903 I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
I went through some weird shit like going to bed at 19 and sleeping for 13 hours
 
i was just asking if it's better practice to do
main(){
func();
func2();
func3();
}

or if mabey
main(){
func()
}

func(){
func2()
}
func2(){
func3()
}
 
@TonyTheLion Might be useful for debugging :)
And I guess perhaps for some kind of pseudo-virtualization? Have a set of applications running on a separate "user-mode kernel"?
bin plx?
 
@user2372903 Without knowing what func and func2 and func3 actually stand for, it is impossible to answer the question. There is no general rule.
 
10:25 AM
Ok that's fine, i don't want to go into a bunchof detail. they're just minr functions that manipulate text
They aren't doing anythign important
 
@Mysticial HDD or SDD?
 
@jalf oh yea, makes sense
 
@user2372903 the way your code should be structured depends on the code
You can't discuss how to write code without the code.
@TonyTheLion (note, I'm not actually sure if that's the intention. For all I know it could just be a joke project :p)
but when we did our kernel project at uni, debugging it was a bitch. The more of it you could run in user mode, the better
(I'm pretty sure Linux has better tooling to support kernel debugging than we did though)
 
Hello guis
 
ugh god
just finished an hour-long debate with communists on facebook
 
10:31 AM
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Q: Lambda expression in c++, OS X's clang vs GCC

pier94A particular property of c++'s lambda expressions is to capture the variables in the scope in which they are declared. For example I can use a declared and initialized variable c in a lambda function even if 'c' is not sent as an argument, but it's captured by '[ ]': #include<iostream> int mai...

 
@CatPlusPlus Aren't temps supposed to be destroyed at the semicolon? ;)
 
@TonyTheLion virtualize all the things!
 
started with that.
 
meh
I already used such a machine in Austria.
it was fine.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You mean people being replaced with iPads?
 
10:32 AM
and retailers here in the UK already make self-service checkouts of various types
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Who are you, and what are you doing in the Lounge? (besides link dropping)
 
@FredOverflow Cicada and trolling as usual.
 
@FredOverflow I am your mother and you haven't finished your vegetables, no dessert for you
Is it spelled "dessert"
Now I have to look it up
 
A desert is a barren area of land where little precipitation occurs and consequently living conditions are hostile for plant and animal life. The lack of vegetation exposes the unprotected surface of the ground to the processes of denudation. About one third of the land surface of the world is arid or semi-arid. This includes much of the polar regions where little precipitation occurs and which are sometimes called "cold deserts". Deserts can be classified by the amount of precipitation that falls, by the temperature that prevails, by the causes of desertification or by their geograp...
Depends on what you mean.
 
Definitely no desert for you!
 
10:34 AM
I am eating peas right now. Are you gonna deport me after all?
 
oh, that's Cicada? Hi there :D
 
Hello jalf~ don't tell me you've just noticed now
 
Aren't cicadas supposed to stay away for 7 years or something?
 
lol
I caught on pretty quick.
For once.
 
actually 13 or 17 years
 
10:35 AM
Cat/Poopy/Tony/Burritek/Xeo usually ketchup within 5 minutes
 
@Xeo Are you swearing, or is that Haskell?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae but they're syncing their brainwaves with this chat room
 
@CatPlusPlus Fuck now I want pizza :(
 
@ParkYoung-Bae yes
fucking dumbshit communist pigs
 
@rubenvb We are?
 
10:38 AM
@BartekBanachewicz What a moderate and constructive reaction!
 
My country fought them off for two world wars and they are still alive in our society
disgusting
 
not really
 
here it goes
 
@Puppy not really what
 
@BartekBanachewicz not really what I
 
10:39 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Fact 1: people will eventually be replaced with automatic machines. Fact 2: people do not like being replaced with automatic machines. Don't be so one sided.
 
it's not really disgusting, nor is it really communistic.
it's just a bunch of people who want to keep their jobs... it has little to do with Communism
and a modern society should be tolerant of most economic perspectives.
 
@Puppy They're communist pigs that want to keep their jobs. It has everything to do with communism.
 
heh
 
@Puppy /s
 
@Puppy it's cool that they want to keep their jobs
it's not cool that they want to raise minimum wage for their work
 
10:43 AM
why not?
everybody wants to receive more money for the same work.
 
because if a robot can work for $12, either you work for $10 or don't work at all
 
People should learn to learn skills that will still be important in the future. Unfortunately, the education system in most countries fails to tell them that, or give them a decent opportunity to actually learn some skill with the aforementioned property.
 
you don't force the law to make the employer pay you $15
 
I see its time for me to grab some popcorn and watch this unfold :P
 
the law can't force any employer to employ anybody.
at least, not on a large scale.
 
10:44 AM
right, so he can just fire you then.
 
sure.
 
So, again, how's the minimum wage raise good?
 
so the conditions of everybody who has a job where the robot can't do it for $12 will improve.
 
@BartekBanachewicz He doesn't need to be fired, cause he was never hired
 
it's a complex problem with many effects, some of which are bad and some of which are good.
and having a certain economic perspective does not make you a totalitarian pig who invades other countries for fun during world wars.
 
10:46 AM
@Puppy what if the employer simply can't pay more?
 
It might help equalize the poorer people.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then he goes out of business.
 
if you understand what I mean with that nonsensical statement.
 
yes.
 
The idea is the reduction of poverty among the poorest.
Which is a good thing.
 
10:47 AM
@Puppy well the guys in that other thread were also saying other stuff
 
And the idea should be enforceable by law. But how it is implemented is of course up for discussion.
 
@Puppy Binary Bartek
 
But minimum wage is a possible way of attacking the problem.
 
@rubenvb phew, sorry, I was dumbed down by those other people
they're still communist pigs no less.
 
that is nothing more than pathetic guilt by association.
even you should be able to do better
FTR, economic statistics over introducing minimum wages indicate that neither introducing it nor increasing it actually cost jobs.
aaah, there's a thunderstorm outside, the British Summer has finally arrived.
I thought I was gonna melt all summer long
 
10:52 AM
You can't melt in three minutes, silly.
 

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