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17:06
@AlexM. Group sex
nah that's what the guys who skipped college to have fun with others did
Yeah right
I skipped college to have fun programming
hello, anyone knows how to enable misra-C checking on gcc?
Do remember that you're in Lounge
17:07
@Mosho --misra-c
group sex for me means getting nailed by multiple compiler errors at the same time
right
There is no misery checking for C, it'd just go off for everything
> fun
> programming
also markdown is going to fuck up the formatting
omg it didn't
rejoyce
17:09
it looks like a 4chan post
so it didn't
@ParkYoung-Bae hmm, gives me unrecognized option
is char a totally different type from unsigned char and signed char or is it allowed to be a typedef of one of the two
I'll save 30 euros if I book a low cost flight instead of a real flight. Awesome.
@Mosho --moronic-standard? --incompetent-programmer? --disable-language?
I'm with you there
idk why I have to do this, it's for a uni assignment
totally unrelated to the course
17:13
@Mosho hmmm that's weird
Actually scratch that.
@ParkYoung-Bae it's an ARM microprocessor
The low cost flight doesn't go where I want so I also need a train, which costs 60 euros.
So the low cost flight costs me 30 euros more. Amazing.
@Mosho GCC doesn't seem to support misra conformance, are you using some checker or idk
I was told to use the makefile to make gcc check it
17:16
Well I don't know the best kind of checking that GCC can do AFAIK is -pedantic -Wall -Werror
I see -Wall there
but I was given a specific subset of misra-c
to check for
Use the corresponding warning flags
If they exist
There's a cat that keeps getting in my flat by the window
Just to sleep on my bed
I have a useless dog sleeping by my chair
Anyone have experience with OpenID here?
I have somewhat useful dog sleeping under my laptop.
17:19
wtf are C++ style comments
jesus
lol
// this instead of /* this shittery */
@Jefffrey Don't implement OpenID
@CatPlusPlus Why?
17:20
@SamDeHaan That's the term GCC uses for // style comments
and it's correct too.
Because OpenID and OAuth are notoriously tricky to implement and like all security-related stuff, it's better to use well-tested implementation
> Line-splicing shall not be used in // comments.
what does this mean?
@Mosho // this \ <newline>
That you can't use line-splicing there, d'oh
17:22
Oh yeah, of course I'm going to use an already existing library. I was just having a problem with Google because Google introduced the new SIGNUP+ bullshit instead (and it should be OpenID compliant)
but then again who would do that
@Jefffrey OpenID Connect is not OpenID
//reset counter
counter = 0;
so this is bad?
it's a terrible comment.
@CatPlusPlus I meant OpenID connect.
17:23
@Puppy yes, but regardless of its contents
That's OAuth + identity stuff
// this \
would be bad \
because the comment spans \
multiple lines
oh
IIIiiii completely forgot what I was doing
@CatPlusPlus I just need user authentication (much like SO). As far as I know OpenID Connect does that.
17:26
@Jefffrey Do you also want the logout when you click on login feature?
Stupid crap doesn't let me type my address because "Straße".
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's one of the detriments of not using the American Alphabet.
'murica!
I'm doing too many things at once
@ParkYoung-Bae It's the German website.
17:28
It's really bad in sleep-deprived state
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh.
@CatPlusPlus s/in .*//
@JerryCoffin Why would you catch the space manually?!
@R.MartinhoFernandes You can still blame the US. Undoubtedly uses at least some software developed here.
@ParkYoung-Bae Why not?
@JerryCoffin Might as well write something more complicated then
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17:30
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know that place, nor the area. It might be great or it might not. Mildenberg's Ziegeleipark, if you weren't there on your last trip, is said to be interesting, but I wasn't there either. but if you go but a little bit further north (Fürstenberg, Lychen) or northwest (Rheinsberg, Wesenberg), I know that the area is wonderful.
@ParkYoung-Bae Under the circumstances, I could get away with just i.*, but typically include at least three or four characters to try to prevent false positives without spending a lot of extra time looking at the input to be sure what's safe.
@sbi I passed by the Ziegeleipark on my trip. It's nice.
I also passed by Fürstenberg and Wesenberg.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, I thought you might have been there.
@JerryCoffin You didn't have to justify that much you know, I was just being silly!
I pretty much went all the way up the Havel.
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17:32
@R.MartinhoFernandes Google maps tells me it's only a little over 100km by bike to Wesenberg. You can do that in one day. :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes The lakes at the upper Havel (look for Kratzeburg) are great as well. I have kayaked there a few times, and it's a very beautiful landscape.
Kratzeburg rings a bell.
Ha! That's where I was lost-ish.
I wasn't supposed to go by there, but... well, I did, somehow.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes :)
In fact, I did kayaking from Kratzburg to Wesenberg last September with my cousin, and it was great to do that.
That's near those lakes.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Haha, nice one! You definitely look exhausted. :)
robot looks badass
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17:42
I need to make a BlueTooth device that holds my KeePass database.
some people would frown on the socks and sandals combo though
@ThePhD You want to fly your passwords over the air over an unlicensed band?
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@StackedCrooked We're talking about the guy who repairs his broken sandals with an USB cable. What do you expect?
@StackedCrooked Shoes were broke, and it was a bit cold that day.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I was hoping to implement some kind of basic encryption with a private-key receiver on my PC.
17:44
No worries. I'm don't mind stuff like that.
It was the closest to raining it got during the whole trip.
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What I could do though is make a tiny USB-based thing.
How long was your trip?
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That I have to plug in.
@TonyTheLion Seven days.
17:45
cool
@sbi Btw, if you're free on Saturday afternoon-evening-night, (and if this time the weather doesn't fuck up again), I might have a nice invitation for you.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Um. As I have an apartment to move on Saturday, I might be exhausted in the evening. :(
What's that about?
May 15 at 10:02, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I want to go here: http://www.maz-online.de/Lokales/Havelland/Naturpark-Westhavelland-ist-Deutschla‌​nds-erster-Sternenpark
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I would like to go there one day, but very likely not this Saturday.
Thanks, though.
I don't want to make it a one-time thing anyway.
Maybe next time, then.
17:50
I would join you, but I don't live in Germany.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, ping me when you do that again! There's not much chance you catch me at one of the rare times my schedule isn't crammed with something else, but you might. And I would want to do that.
Cool.
I might try again after I come back from Portugal in August, and I also want to try sometime closer to winter because M42.
@AlexM. because nobody wants to work with a miserable bastard
I'm already working with people
that proves some people want to work with miserable bastards
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@R.MartinhoFernandes M42 is quite big.
17:54
ha!
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you have equipment for watching stars?
no I'm a very miserable bastard
!
I'm miserably nice
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ eye's don't silly
17:59
@sbi Though the M42 can be seen with the naked eye if it's dark enough. I could see it as a small dot in my hometown, and with normal binoculars you can see some details.
@ScottW <3
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Not with my nekkid eyes. Without glasses, I have a hard time reading 15pt Times right in front of my eyes.
@ScottW I dunno :(
I think I'm an asshole
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@AlexM. Alex
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i'm going to romania on friday
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18:06
i am going there for a holiday
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Wow. Some gangsters stole 300,000 liters of beer in Germany. That is quite a lot. (Ten trucks, they say.)
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@AlexM. you helped me decide
have fun
Romania's nice
@sbi That gives capital punishment, right?
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i think so
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18:08
not meaning to generalise, it certainly interests me
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@R.MartinhoFernandes I dunno. First they gotta catch them, though. According to the news, the police asks "Who has seen a rather large amount of beer?" Funny, that question.
Especially after the events on Sunday.
I'm sure lots of people saw more beer than they could handle. And drank it.
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Oh, it seems you have missed that the greatest party of all was today, at the Brandenburg Gate.
@Alex for holidays right now you can go to both seaside resorts and mountain resorts
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The team was expected by 11 or 12, and they had to close the area by 8, because half a million people were too much.
18:10
both are active like hell, I think
it's the middle of july so they should
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i hope it is really hot when i get there
I asked my colleagues this question and they were split:
> Which is better? 20 lines of duplicate code (40 lines total), or 20 lines + 50 lines of factories, interfaces, wrapper classes. (70 lines total).
Yeah, but they work at Google so they don't know shit.
@sbi Yeah, I'm glad I was on the other side of town.
Larian went crazy with the new Divinity
aside from the fact that the game is great, they actively work a lot on improving it further larian.com/forums/…
I think they want to become the devs of the year
probably motivated by CD Projekt
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@R.MartinhoFernandes You can watch it here. :)
18:13
Wait, it's still going?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes No, it ended in the afternoon. But they have a special about it starting right after the news.
That's in 2mins.
Ah. For a moment I thought I'd have to deal with that shit on the way home.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes You might have to deal with a couple of excited and drunk people anyway. :)
I'll be at the pub around the corner from here.
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You probably won't be alone.
Oh look, now it's starting! :)
18:16
Can't wait for 17. Juni to be usable.
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What do you want to use it for?
Going places!
It's been completely locked down for over a month because of the World Cup.
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How's that?
That stage thingy in front of the Brandenburger Tor has been there for a month now.
You can't go through the Brandenburger Tor.
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Well, I rarely ever do that anyway. Maybe twice or thrice in a decade.
Quite busy there.
18:23
Holy christ.
lol, so many cranes.
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The cranes is how you can tell it's Berlin. :-/
When I was at Teufelsberg last year, there weren't that many.
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???
You can see the whole city from there.
18:25
@sbi Coca-Cola.
First thing I noticed.
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Oh, you mean cranes? I thought you were referring to people.
@EtiennedeMartel You're American.
@sbi Yeah.
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@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, they were one of the World Cup's main sponsors.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, it's the most powerful brand in the world, so.
@sbi It will be beautiful!
18:29
hmm
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@R.MartinhoFernandes That's what Berlin's been thinking for 25 years, but it seems they never get done.
looks like my last plan to keep working on Windows has failed so I'll be forced to work on Linux
Puppy's high.
nah
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He probably had too much chocolate.
18:30
I figured that, since Premake won't generate working project files for x86 release, I could build and test in x64 release
but it turns out that MinGW doesn't support Itanium ABI exceptions on x64.
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Windows 8.1 is such a pain.
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I really hope this is the last time they slice the API of .NET into pieces.
Deutschland!
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Deuteronomy?
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Ugh, I don't want this to be starred.
@sbi I'm starting to consider this a medical addiction or something. I've really, really got to stop wasting so much money on making myself fat and dying early.
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See. I knew.
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Well, people can get "addicted" to the caffeine in coffee. Maybe it can happen with plain chocolate too?
@sbi Well, wisdom really does come with age.
ITT ape in Berlin can smell chocolate that puppy ate in Great Britain.
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18:33
@R.MartinhoFernandes All-seeing eye ape.
It's like a Beholder, but with more hair.
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I would be scared if I was his kid. Could you imagine, if you do something wrong he'd not just be able to know. He'd be able to smell the wrong on you.
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You'd be so screwed. ;~;
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@ThePhD Chocolate definitely makes your body produce endorphins, which is addictive.
chocolate makes me horny
but a lot of things make me horny, and chocolate makes me the least horny
18:34
chocolate makes me honey
I usually eat something like a chocolate bar per day but that's because I want some sort of dessert, no matter what
I can easily replace it with... a wafer or something
and nothing happens
so I can't say I'm addicted to chocolate
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@ThePhD I'd be scared of a parent that can't tell their child is lying just by looking at its face. At least until a certain age.
@sbi The kid would be too.
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Did you miss a negation in my sentence?
18:36
@sbi Haven't seen you in a while :)
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@FredOverflow I have never seen you. That's because you didn't show up when you meant to.
Are you still mad about that? :(
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Ow, right in the feels.
@R.MartinhoFernandes He knows me. Also I mentioned it last time or time before last.
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18:38
@FredOverflow That made an ugly dent into my reputation as someone who brings in good programmers.
@FredOverflow do you know about Pluralsight? Nice videos, not free though.
@sbi Well, better me not showing up than me showing up and suck, right? ;)
Xeo
Xeo
No?
so
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@JohanLarsson That's where Kate Gregory works. I have never seen one of their videos, though.
18:40
what distro do you guys recommend? it's clear that Ubuntu sucks
@Puppy Linux Mint Debian
I only used ubuntu and debian
@sbi I don't know her.
I tried fedora once and I admit, it didn't stop booting because of OS updates
it stopped booting because I installed monodevelop
I don't even
What is she famous for?
@JohanLarsson being a celebrity
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@JohanLarsson She isn't famous. Just a knowledgeable and nice person. I think she also wrote a book. Or two. I'm not sure, though.
that goes a long way, will search for her vids.
18:44
what exactly stops a processor from being overclocked further? is it just temperature, or is there some sort of frequency cap that each particular processor can't go over, no matter what?
Signal travel time and stuff.
It would be nice if they found a way to continue the GHz rally.
no, no it would not.
18:47
@AlexM. A combination of both.
we need more cores
we clearly need more cores, fuck speed
we have cores
We need desktop mobos with multiple CPU slots
@AlexM. there's a big boss that you can't beat
lol
I just asked myself, if in theory you could keep a processor's temperature under control at any frequency, what would eventually stop you from overclocking it further
18:49
We have had dual core CPUs for 8 years or something. Shouldn't 32 core CPUs be the default by now? Has Moore's law slowed down?
I think moore's law has been invalidated completely by recent events
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I type this on a quadcore. With 8 HT cores.
Same here.
multiple CPUs means that L3 cache is no longer shared among all cores. I don't like the idea of that. (and neither do my benchmarks)
@AlexM. What do you mean? Moore's law says nothing about GHz.
18:50
everything is terrible
4
Kids these days.
@FredOverflow I've read something about this, but I can't seem to find the article anymore
PHP OpenID libraries are the worst.
> Moore's law is the observation that, over the history of computing hardware, the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles approximately every two years.
something about this not being true anymore
Moore talks about the number of transistors.
18:52
@AlexM. Speed of light.
Either you go full PEARetarded, or you get bare metal level.
a signal can only travel so far in a clock cycle.
@Puppy you mean...
@AlexM. The number of transistors are still increasing,
the secret to time travel lies in overclocking CPUs?
18:53
once you get to ~30GHz or so, the signal simply can't travel across the chip in a cycle.
holy shit
@Jefffrey Why are you using PHP
Also even PHP devs hate PEAR
@Puppy yeah that makes sense
Mores law should slow down soon though, how many atoms are there in a transistor now?
30GHz is still a lot tho
18:54
@CatPlusPlus Because I love it.
You're terrible
I'm kidding.
4 mins ago, by Jefffrey
everything is terrible
1 min ago, by Cat Plus Plus
@Jefffrey Why are you using PHP
that's why ^^^^
PHP is the fucking worst
PHP libraries are the fucking worst
NO
PHP on the whole
the whole fucking entire thing is ready for the trash can
18:56
tony is the specialist
burn it
@StackedCrooked lol
I'm a newb at this whole OpenID thingy. That's true. But FFS, you go from Doctrine to PEAR dependencies.
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Tony the Speicalist
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What do you guys think about this comment?
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@AlexM. i'm going to bucharest. i'm worried about dogs, i've heard that there are lots of them there running around
18:59
yes, but you don't need to worry if you just visit what's interesting

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