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2:01 PM
uh logitech gear prices are out of control
their regular mouse costs as much as Orochi
 
You'd be a lazier badger iff you had refrained from all the markdown emphasis — sehe 14 secs ago
zegermansarecoming.com is a nice site
 
@Rapptz trying son of obsidian for a while, to see how it feels
 
shared_ptrs = evil.
 
I use them a bunch in Wide right now
 
Wide is evil.
9
 
2:13 PM
lol
they effectively solve the problem they were built to solve- sharing ownership
 
Xeo
doesn't make them any less evil
 
I don't see what's so evil about them
I have a problem, they solve it efficiently and reliably, what more could I want
 
Xeo
globals in disguise!
 
if I want globals why would I want disguises :P
 
how are shared_ptrs globals in disguise?
 
2:18 PM
@Xeo xenophobic much
 
They're evil.
 
sbi
Why?
^ @R.M
 
Guise, could you head me in the right direction for this situation: I've got a CSV file (that contains clients private informations), in some physical computer I can have my hands, on and I have a web server. How would I share this file between the two in a "safe enough" way?
 
If you want GC, get a decent one
@Jefffrey Encrypt it
Don't keep it unencrypted
 
what the hell
I have 30 days of leave left
 
2:29 PM
Authenticate the channel
 
hm it's nice that it's in hours actually
 
@CatPlusPlus You mean with SSL, right?
 
Also make sure the key is strong and not 'butts.8'
 
Imma get a nice leave bonus or however this is called
 
if you work 8h a day, then 30 days is 240h, which even at a fairly basic rate is a nice bonus
 
2:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus at least butts.18
 
I have 210 hrs
man what am I going to do with all that moneyz
I am already getting the best ultrabook out there.
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz Our team looks like they're going to write the backend of our game in Python. Apparently with... Flask?
 
@ThePhD nice.
what are the items of demand nowadays
what do people buy when they have cash
 
user3010322
I don't know how that shit works. I was just going to say use C# to do the work but I don't know that side of the team so it's just going to be what they decide.
 
@BartekBanachewicz cars
houses
boats
 
user3010322
2:32 PM
Thankfully, I got to own everything graphics-side.
 
hm right I could buy a car
 
travel!
 
I don't like traveling
 
user3010322
So I'm basically going completely wild with the graphics implementation. :D
 
and the boring option: pension fund!
 
2:33 PM
I'll prolly fly to UK for a week or something but that's it
 
So... SFTP and encrypt the file. Got it.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Me a flight to Japan
 
Thanks.
 
user3010322
@Xeo Don't go without meee. ;~;
 
eh fuck the worse part is that I'm still broke until the end of the month
 
2:33 PM
Guys, can you "Go to definition" in the collection of a ranged-for in VS2013?
 
because of this shitty rent and deposit
 
For me it always goes to std::vector::end.
 
and not getting the deposit from previous place back still
 
Gee, I get better code navigation with "Find".
 
I should enroll for that effing driver's license finally
 
2:34 PM
It was today
That, to my dismay,
I found complex enums in Javay,
To be not so very very gay
 
@sbi Dunno yet. Still shuffling my thoughts around.
 
bogosort
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That must not take long, unless you have invented an NP-complete shuffle or something
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes, but can objective-c gracefully handle it?
 
2:36 PM
@Crow I doubt Obj-C can handle anything gracefully
 
@Crow everything in plists EVERYTHING.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah check back later :)
 
I don't even know what I am supposed to do with objective-c... someone should make series of books like "your background is x, based on that we will teach you y in a way you will understand with your background"
 
user2862309
I've been summoned
 
2:38 PM
@Crow Your background is a butte
 
@Crow Except most of those backgrounds start with "Forget your background".
 
1 message moved to bin
 
user3010322
@Crow "Your background is porn, we will teach you C++ with extreme BDSM."
 
user3010322
Seems legit to me.
 
@ThePhD That's just C++
 
2:39 PM
sounds like how everyone interacts with C++
 
Your background:
psychotic mass murderer: learn to kill people by dropping Macs on their heads
Otherwise: avoid Objective C like the plague that it is.
 
you tried to use language features? get out the whips and chains
 
hm okey
I have to just fucking get there and sign up
nothing hard right
why haven't I done it in the past 3 years
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's why your girlfriend...well, maybe it's better not to go into that.
 
user3010322
2:42 PM
I really hope Metal compiles to GLSL or HLSL.
 
well fuck I expected much more
@ThePhD why do you hope for that?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you mean to ask whether she's in heat? Whistles innocently.
 
what's that in real money?
 
@sbi Whaaaat.
 
user3010322
2:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz For interoperation with existing systems, so it's not locked to iOS/Apple only?
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's not real money.
 
@ThePhD wait what
what the hell are you talking about I don'tg
kda
jg9q23
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes SO you just threw this around, without having a justification, and all you have to back it up is the sense of a robot that intuitively smells evil?
 
user3010322
Metal, AFAIK, is going to be a shading language developed to work on just Apple devices.
 
Metal is not a shading language
how about you read something about it first?
 
sbi
2:44 PM
A metal (from Greek "μέταλλον" – métallon, "mine, quarry, metal") is a material (an element, compound, or alloy) that is typically hard, opaque, shiny, and features good electrical and thermal conductivity. Metals are generally malleable — that is, they can be hammered or pressed permanently out of shape without breaking or cracking — as well as fusible (able to be fused or melted) and ductile (able to be drawn out into a thin wire). About 91 of the 118 elements in the periodic table are metals (some elements appear in both metallic and non-metallic forms). The meaning of "metal" diff...
 
user3010322
Metal is a subset of C++11 with it own STL. It's a different language.
 
@sbi He doesn't intuitively smell evil. That's just some overheated lubricant.
 
@ThePhD what the hell. Where do you get that from.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Now you get all slippery.
 
metal (from Greek "μέταλλον" – métallon, "metal")
Impressive.
Let's try again.
 
2:45 PM
Have you like just imagined what it is or what.
 
horse (from Greek "ἵππος" – hippos, "horse")
 
I do that with women
 
There's "Metal Shading Language" alright but it's a part of Metal API
otherwise it's C++ so stripped that it's not really C++
 
user3010322
> The Metal shading language is a unified programming language for writing both graphics and compute kernel functions that are used by apps written with the Metal framework.
 
I'm hungry
 
user3010322
2:47 PM
> The Metal shading language
 
yes is basically OpenCL
 
user3010322
Notice how there is only The Metal Shading Language
 
user3010322
and not Metal, and some subset that's a shading language.
 
so what are you talking about?
The Metal API or The Metal Shading Language?
Because both are going to be Apple-only
 
witch (from Greek "μαγεύω" – magév̱o̱, "witch")
 
2:48 PM
@sbi It'd be pretty lousy lube if it wasn't slippery, now wouldn't it?
 
user3010322
I'm talking about where it compiles to. I'd like Metal to compile to GLSL or HLSL through Clang so I can leverage a single unified shading language (Metal) to interop with whatever I want to (basically all other graphics devices in existence).
 
hmmmm
 
> What makes iOS 8 the world’s most advanced mobile operating system?
> It’s the details. The innovations. The complete experience. It’s the fact that you can now see (and edit and organize) every photo you take on all your devices.
 
@ThePhD now care to explain how low-level language like metal compiled to high level language such as GLSL or HLSL would make sense?
 
Woah, never before could I see (and edit and organize) every photo I take on all my devices.
 
2:49 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Uh
Have you heard about Emscripten
 
emscripten is a gimmick
 
user3010322
It makes sense in that I can take that output, run it through the Khronos Reference Compiler or the D3D Bytecode Compiler, and dump it into my existing platforms?
 
@CatPlusPlus I wonder if "all your devices" means "all your iOS devices".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You have to wonder?
 
@CatPlusPlus So does that mean it's going to develop my film for me, or that Apple has decided my film camera is no longer a "device"?
 
2:50 PM
I have an API which I call, and pass a callback to, the signature of the callback I cannot change, however, I call this many times, and now somehow, inside the callback I need to identify the data coming into the callback, which isn't passed through its argument. I haven't anything really that is passed into the callback that I can use to identify this data... I'm lost.
 
@JerryCoffin Is it blessed by Holy Apple?
 
@JerryCoffin Is it Apple film?
 
@ThePhD I also love how you assume that writing Metal code once is going to be quicker than writing code in GLSL and HLSL.
Not even mentioning the fact that you can simply write GLSL and be done with it for the vast majority of the market
 
user3010322
Metal is going to follow C++11. It will be vastly easier to write a single piece of code in metal than maintain 2 for GLSL and HLSL.
 
2:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I prefer Fuji (film and apples).
 
No device for you.
 
@ThePhD and that assumption is based on what again?
on mere guess?
on dice roll?
 
> We’ve also provided developers with deeper access and more tools. So some of the most amazing features in iOS 8 are being created right now. You’ll have new keyboard options and even more ways to share your content.
New keyboard options????????????????????
I WAITED FOR THIS MY WHOLE LIFE
2
 
Also wait
I've realized I don't really care.
 
@ThePhD or you could just write HLSL and cross compile :p
 
2:52 PM
Or javascript
 
> And easily share your location so they know right where you are.
And Apple, also
 
shh stop giving reasonable alternatives.
 
Javascript very portable
 
user3010322
@melak47 Would rather go back to inventing my own Metal then. <.>
 
Javascript very performance
Javascript very turing completeness
 
2:53 PM
@ParkYoung-Bae it's only slow when on bad comparator machines
 
> That you can add your voice right in a text message.
OMG I am impressed.
 
@thecoshman i don't remember ringing the bell of LOGIC in this discussion
 
It's like LIVING IN THE FUTURE
 
Never before could you add voice to text messages!
 
@CatPlusPlus Javascript is purrfect
 
2:53 PM
Not even when they invented MMS. Oh, wait.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae maybe you can explain to @ThePhD how a low-level compute kernel is different from a GLSL shader
 
Low level savages
 
@BartekBanachewicz @ThePhD it's not the same
 
I'd spend that time hitting my head on the wall
 
What does he not understand besides everything
7
 
2:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz been doing that all day
very productive :v
 
@JerryCoffin :D
 
Y'all approach the shader problem from the wrong side
WHO WANTS TO WRITE SHADERS AT ALL
 
@TonyTheLion "the data coming into the callback, which isn't passed through its argument." ???
 
2:57 PM
oh
well, there is data coming into the callback, but the things I need to identify that data isn't
 
user3010322
I'm not sure what he's getting at... Metal is going to be a shading language, not a low-level GPU kernel language. It's not trying to fill the same space as CUDA. It's trying to fill the space for GLSL and HLSL and Cg, since it's meant to be a shading language. I was just voicing my opinion that Metal should cross-compile so I could use it in other places and dump it in other systems, rather than be locked into <Proprietary Bytecode Apple Hands To Drivers To Do Work>.
 
and since this callback is called a lot of times, from different sources, I need to be able to identify the sourcee
 
user3010322
But, whatever. vOv
 
Hahahahaha nice joke.
Apple.
Hahahahaha.
 
user3010322
It's still the wish.
 
2:58 PM
Is it Objective-CSL?
 
it's a dumb wish.
> The Metal shading language is a unified programming language for writing both graphics and compute kernel functions that are used by apps written with the Metal framework
 
@BartekBanachewicz This one doesn't have the courtesy to maintain the silence a dumb wish would.
 
> The Metal shading language uses clang and LLVM so developers get a compiler that delivers close to the metal performance for code executing on the GPU
 
@TonyTheLion You need to draw a picture
And by picture I mean code
 
3:00 PM
@ThePhD Apple really isn't interested in cross-compatibility
 
"close to the metalloid performance"
 
what do you mean "cross-compatibility"
 
It's a shorthand figure it out
 
@BartekBanachewicz so it's Objective-CSL AMP? :p
 
@CatPlusPlus No I meant that as "there are no other platforms out there"
 
3:01 PM
Rule #1: don't get excited about Apple things because Apple is terrible at software and their things are shit and stink
 
inb4 rule 2 see 1
 
> While Apple has customized Metal to wring every drop of performance out of the new A7, it also designed the A7 specifically to excel at running Metal code optimized by the LLVM compiler.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae I shall seppuku or whatever it's called
 
2girls1seppuku.
I dunno what happened.
 
@ThePhD didnt you say you had 3 shaders and don't mind rewriting? :p
 
3:03 PM
Metal by Apple.. never heard of it
but I guess they're not the only ones developing new shading languages
 
No, everyone does, because the world needs more shading languages
Desperately
 
That and web frameworks
 
I'm so gonna make my own web framework
With OAuth and hookers
 
@CatPlusPlus let's create one new shading language that compiles to each and every other shading language
 
Including itself
 
3:04 PM
inb4 xkcd
 
yeah wanted to link xkcd
 
now you can't
 
6 mins ago, by ThePhD
It's still the wish.
 
I placed a defensive inb4
 
3:05 PM
Bee gone, redditors
 
@ParkYoung-Bae right, tactical message
 
I don't understand.. we could just start programming in Malebolge, it's meant to be easily extended and integrated into existing platforms (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge)
 
@MarcoA. 0.5/10
 
I could use a tactical massage
 
especially because you mispelt "Malbolge"
 
3:05 PM
@CatPlusPlus That "No" was fairly tactic
> mispelt
 
Oh the irony
 
seems like it's time to go home for both of us : ]
anyway it's not misspelled: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malebolge
it's just not the name of the programming language
 
Then how are you going to program in it
 
@BartekBanachewicz He was actually going for "male bulge". Or maybe mail bilge. Hard to tell sometimes.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Very carefully
 
3:08 PM
One bolgia at a time
 
@JerryCoffin and that's new for me..
 
@JerryCoffin You gotta pump it up
 
@CatPlusPlus Hans and Franz are ready to help!
 
Work things uploaded time to go shopping and home
 
3:12 PM
I still need to get that stupid rucola
 
@CatPlusPlus Go for the smart rucola, as long as it doesn't cost much more.
 
JSON is a lovely format ]}}]]]]}}}}}]}}]}]}]}]}]
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Beats XML (now there's an example of "damning with faint praise").
 
user1804599
Rucola is nice.
 
user1804599
Especially with a little bit of sweet sauce.
 
user1804599
3:26 PM
 
@rightfold aw <3
 
@rightfold Not a good analogy, because being gay isn't a choice. But still.
 
yes it is
it's a choice made by the Lord of Light
on your behalf
 
@EtiennedeMartel You're aware he's in the best position to know that?
 
3:39 PM
right! @MartinJames time for canine feeding
 
@EtiennedeMartel do you choose what type of sandwich you like?
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson Any abstract type will do.
 
@EtiennedeMartel it's basically spot on, as Johan points out
the problem is that the poster ignores the annoyance that you get when the person from in front of you then sits next to you at one of the in-store tables, munching on something whose smell you find absolutely abhorrent
if there's any flaw in the analogy, it's there
 
I wanted to make a pun on gay and analogy but I CBA
 
also if the person in front of you was buying a sub for their 3-year old child and you thought they were fucking awful parents for giving them all of that grease
or whatever
 
3:42 PM
Hello everyone, I am trying to track down memory errors in my program. Valgrind reports unitialized values but track origins returns no origin. How do I find out the origin of the uninitialized value or even which value it is?
 
that is, it doesn't have to directly affect you for you to justifiably care
it would be a pretty sad world if we all only cared about ourselves or only the things that physically affect ourselves
the other extreme, of course, is religious nutjobs who take it to the extent of preaching and/or killing you "to save you" :)
 
user1804599
grep 'int [a-zA-Z0-9_]+' :P
 
Its not that easy an unitialized value problem :-P
 
user1804599
Nice avatar.
 
@rightfold std::cout << "That show was absolutely mint m8\n";
 
3:45 PM
hmmm
I can only find a 32bit libstdc++ in my MinGW
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not sure you can fault him for eating at a restaurant though.
 
@JohanLarsson I can fault him for eating at Subway
and for calling things "subs"
 
A bit like you should not bring your date to a gay swingers club if you can't handle the smell of shit and vaseline.
 
@Puppy that's mingwing
@JohanLarsson pahaha
wondering how Johan knows so much about what gay swingers parties smell like
 
analogy right?
 
3:52 PM
A fundamental problem with most of the discussion is that there's more to the situation than gay marriage per se. What goes with it is things like insurance coverage for domestic partners. If sexual minorities have increased health costs, then coverage for domestic partners is likely to come at some cost to those in the majority. And, brand new today is a survey that seems to indicate that members of sexual minorities probably do have somewhat higher healthcare costs.
This doesn't attempt to quantify differences in cost, but does point to higher prevalence of some health issues among sexual minorities.
 
user1804599
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Q: Did the Twitter account Fifndhs predict the World Cup results ahead of time?

georgechalhoubThere was a feeling of exhilaration and excitement on Twitter, with the Twitter account @FifNdhs called “FIFA Corruption” seemingly having predicted the final result of the World Cup final hours ahead of time. The amazing German footballer Mario Götze scored the game’s only goal in the 113th m...

 
user1804599
lol
 
wonder how many tweets he made
 
What is "every possible scenario"?
Did they tweet "Germany wins 34-0"?
Also, "Gotze will score"? Dumbass.
 
goatse will score
 
3:58 PM
Now thats an interesting scam
 
that caught me off-guard.. that guy will get a job as permutation-finder somewhere
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Didn't need to. Had enough possibilities covered to have a half dozen or so tweets that would be accurate regardless of the outcome. There are only so many players on each team, so it doesn't really take a lot of tweets to cover "X scores in the (first|second) half", "* in extra time", etc. Add in a few likely possibilities for the final score (1-0, 0-0) and whether it happened in extra time, and you can pretty quickly get enough to look at least mildly convincing.
 
4:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, one redeeming fact about that light, you have to double tap to turn it on, so it's unlikely to be turned on by accident.
 
You think.
That's how it works on mine.
 
it's also very tiny
and you could glue something over it if you really wanted to, as you don't need to use it to start the charging
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes shh
stop spoiling it for me
 
Why are customers so indecisive?
 
4:21 PM
any way, I charged it up last night, so going to see how long our phones and her camera can keep topped up from it
 
@thecoshman It's probably better to count full charges of the phone/camera instead of just keeping it plugged in.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't get the reference o_0
 
@thecoshman PUNCH HIM SO HARD HE EXPLODES
There's no reference.
Just Torgue shouting what you should do to the light.
 
I see...
@R.MartinhoFernandes may be...
but that's more of a pain to keep track of, and too easy for me to let something run out altogether
 
If you keep more than one device plugged in, how do you count it?
 
4:26 PM
What have you bought?
 
just seeing how long the battery keeps charging the devices we use
 
What is the meaning of "units of time with devices X, Y, and Z plugged in".
 
vOv I don't care enough to get pedantic
 
Morning, World!
@R.MartinhoFernandes I played all the way through Borderlands on PS3 and don't remember that quest at all.
 
@Code-Apprentice It's Borderlands 2, the fourth DLC.
 
4:41 PM
I've beat BL2 as well...but none of the DLC ;-(
that would explain it then
talking about BL...is there any word for a 3rd one?
 
@sbi I've been wanting to visit this place google.com/maps/@53.0579339,13.373878,1675m/data=!3m1!1e3 (abandonedberlin.com/2011/08/…) for a while now; there are a bunch of small lakes to the west and also northeast of it; also woodlands all around. Maybe I'll just camp somewhere nearby and explore the whole place.
 
user3010322
Portable Class Library is going to kill me.
 
I just realized that using expression SFINAE in non header-only code makes you write the function body FOUR times.
 
user3010322
Practice makes perfect.
 
user3010322
Or something.
 
4:54 PM
> What activities or societies have you participated in as a student at Babes-Bolyai University of Cluj-Napoca, Romania?
linkedin asks for it too
I DIDN'T DO SHIT IN COLLEGE OKAY
6
WHY THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER
 
yeah, that's the best part of our college
 
@ParkYoung-Bae I realised that using expression SFINAE in MSVC makes you punch the function body FOUR times.
 
ICE ICE baby
 
I can't get 100% on my profile unless I add an activity I've participated in in college
I swear to god I'll add something like "I managed to get myself out of any emergency caused by studying very late"
 

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