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1:00 PM
I don't wanna
it's interesting
 
All in favor of mass-plonking?
 
@zigi I'm sorry but how exactly can you tell I'm Asian? That's fairly offensive.
 
I think we can make you
 
 
1:00 PM
inbin4 bin
 
a few more. 6 already
 
@SamDeHaan no, just flag him
 
@ParkYoung-Bae the same way people call me jewish and I am not
 
1:01 PM
guis y u break my tois :(
 
And yes, we know that the fact that you get kicked out of every place you go to has nothing to do with your behaviour and everything to do with other people being morons.
 
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Morgen
 
So, according to your profile, you are 135 years old. Impressive.
Hello.
 
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Who, me?
 
No, the plant on your desk.
 
1:04 PM
> Because computers can't do it all
Whether it's a quick mailing label, file folder tab, or addressing an envelope - every office still needs a typewriter,
poor sods
too bad the real deal things are hellishly expensive
 
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@ParkYoung-Bae Why so harsh?
 
@Mr.Meshuggah wat
 
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I wanted to ask you guys to actually recommend me a good book for C++ templates
 
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Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

 
This amazon.com/C-Templates-The-Complete-Guide/dp/0201734842 is a good one, but is outdated now.
There is no proper replacement.
 
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1:06 PM
Great! Thanks.
 
ah found the webpage
it's called Kasbah
 
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@ParkYoung-Bae This is kind of sarcasm or irony, I don't know, but yeah, I get it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's a restaurant in Berlin.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah Nah, it's just silliness.
 
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1:07 PM
Ok, I see
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's also a place where they restore the most beautiful typewriters I've seen
 
@BartekBanachewicz Subtle pun on "restore"
 
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Bartek, you like pink typewriters?
 
My hipster sense is overflowing.
@Mr.Meshuggah the pink one above is nice.
they use car-paint for them IIRC
 
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1:09 PM
Hm, we Belgians love pink.
 
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we put it on waffles
 
and those machines aren't some shitty 20 yo things
they are real deals from 60s
 
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Do you guys know there is a PHP Framework that actually compiles everything to C so it is like 20 times faster than PHP. phalconphp.com/en
 
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but people can still write in PHP
 
why would youw
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fpasdfp php 412fds
 
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1:11 PM
How do you write a back-end with C otherwise?
 
You don't.
 
you fucking don't.
 
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what do you use then, perl?
 
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python
 
@Mr.Meshuggah GOD NO
 
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1:12 PM
ruby?
 
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Go?
 
python is ok
 
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Python is written by a crazy dutch guy.
 
wait what
now you got me wonder whether you're dumb or just ignorant
 
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yes
 
1:13 PM
haaa! @LightnessRacesinOrbit I used "whether" correctly :3
 
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@BartekBanachewicz ignorant to what?
 
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I am kind of dumb yes, I want to learn.
 
The Python Software Foundation (PSF), is a non-profit organization devoted to the Python programming language, launched on March 6, 2001. The mission of the foundation is to foster development of the Python community and is responsible for various processes within the Python community, including developing the core Python distribution, managing intellectual rights, developer conferences including PyCon, and raising funds. In 2005, the Python Software Foundation received the prestigious Computerworld Horizon Award for "cutting-edge" technology. Notes External links * [http://www.pyth...
to that.
vast majority of mainstream programming languages was created by one person.
 
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Ah no, not really
 
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I know that
 
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1:15 PM
I just didn't know you do, you look like a designer guy a bit.
 
then why did you bring python's original creator up?
 
morning guys
 
@BartekBanachewicz But you used "wonder" incorrectly.
 
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Cause I have seen him and he looks a bit crazy.
 
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And the way he speaks
 
1:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes come on.
@Mr.Meshuggah which is, you must agree, rather irrelevant when discussing properties of a programming language
in which case python might have been designed by trained monkeys for all I care, because it's still better than C, ruby and perl together.
and I don't even like it that much.
 
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This is a bit like saying that bananas are better then apples. There are different types of languages for different purposes.
 
Bananas are better than strawberries.
 
Bananas are better than apples.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah bananas aren't languages
 
@BartekBanachewicz Networking's weird
 
1:18 PM
@jalf Don't let rightfold hear you.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah yes, but just a bit.
 
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@CatPlusPlus it's always weird.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah Please don't post selfies
 
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Ahahahaha it kind of looks like me, that's why it's funny.
 
1:19 PM
Yes that's what I said I think
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, he thinks PHP is a language too.
3
 
well I am not going to install 8.1 on my workstation just to see how it works
I'll wait for my new PC
 
@BartekBanachewicz Like crap.
 
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@jalf you think you are smart too.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I meant Hyper-V not the OS specifically
 
1:20 PM
@Mr.Meshuggah jalf is pretty smart
 
@Mr.Meshuggah I dunno about him, but I think @jalf is pretty smart. And he is certainly right in that PHP is a fucking abomination not a language.
 
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It's a script.
 
no it's not a script either
 
you're a script bartek
 
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@jalf Du narrede dem godt.
 
1:21 PM
this is a script
@ParkYoung-Bae damn
 
I'll have a burritek con queso
 
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And a bananachewicz with cream for desert
 
I'm smart enough to assume that people here are aware of Google Translate, at least. :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not really
VBox is p straightforward
VMware too
 
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1:23 PM
But too lazy to use it :)
 
it wasn't really hard to translate without
 
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It doesn't matter how smart you are, but how well you use your smartness.
 
philosoraptor time
 
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@BartekBanachewicz saying while switching the tab from google translate.
 
1:24 PM
ok this guy is boring already next one.
 
Wait, Hamlet was prince of Denmark?!
 
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Hamlet had the God Complex.
 
@CatPlusPlus hides
 
how did Hamlet inherit from King? Was it a public or protected inheritance?
wikipedia doesn't say that
 
@MarcoA. class Hamlet { std::complex<double> God; };
 
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1:25 PM
yawns
 
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see ya
 
@BartekBanachewicz What
 
@JerryCoffin is God real or imaginary?
oh such philosophy today..
 
okey so Pentatonix is pretty cool
 
@MarcoA. Check starboard
 
1:28 PM
took me a while to realize
 
because they do interesting arrangements of normally terrible songs?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae lol
 
@SamDeHaan dunno, I like their daft punk arrangement and it's certainly not terrible originally
 
@BartekBanachewicz true, that did break the mold. A lot of their other stuff I enjoy but despise the originals.
 
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1:29 PM
lindsey does arrangements of shitty songs but they are shitty nowadays
 
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Ozzy Osburn is the best
 
@Mr.Meshuggah you still there?
 
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Meshuggah, are pretty awesome too
 
@Mr.Meshuggah If I re-distill the hate does it become the dark side?
 
now what the hell
this broke the internet I suppose
or rather would break if I was still Lindsey's fan
 
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1:31 PM
@Mgetz it is like asking me when you make whiskey would you get your wheat back if you destil it.
 
okey but it's fucking great
 
hah
 
carbon violin is so sexy.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz interesting tastes you have.
 
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Kind of alternative.
 
1:32 PM
I listen mostly to progressive rock and instrumental music
 
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(thumbsup)
 
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Bartek, try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgIGit3-XDQ
 
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They are Australian. Met the vocalist 2 weeks ago on the Graspop festival.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah clearly not a star wars fan...
 
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@Mgetz Star Trek is much better, yes.
 
1:34 PM
Anger -> Hate -> The Dark Side
 
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Hehe
 
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@Mr.Meshuggah I dunno if I like it. It has nice background and electronic notions, but otherwise guitars are very compressed and don't pack the punch I'd like them to, and the vocals are the weakest part of it.
 
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To be honest "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" is better than both, imho
 
@BartekBanachewicz yay! :D
 
1:37 PM
oh, the bridge part is nice.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz try this one then youtube.com/watch?v=XX0p7Y3gND4
 
they are not bad, certainly.
 
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Well depends what kind of vocals you like.
 
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I really listen to stuff like Meshuggah and Gojira so this is kind of light to me
 
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@BartekBanachewicz do you like Tool?
 
1:39 PM
@Mr.Meshuggah I do but I don't listen a lot to them. I probably should.
 
@StackedCrooked I used coliru :D yay!
 
> 2>C:\Code\Wide\Wide\Semantic\Analyzer.cpp : fatal error C1128: number of sections exceeded object file format limit : compile with /bigobj
 
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@BartekBanachewicz That is really cool, nice :)
 
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@BartekBanachewicz I am the same, I know a lot of songs and to play them on guitar but never appreciate the voice, I don't know why.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah this is a polish violinist. Seeing him live was the best musical experience of my life so far.
 
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1:42 PM
Hey, learned something new today, thanks!
 
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Mihal
 
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Hey, if someone flags anything the mods see who did it, right?
 
@Mr.Meshuggah Do you play only metal or some other genres too? And what guitar do you have? (since we're at guitar I might reveal my gear geek side)
 
@Puppy lolwat.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah Yes.
 
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1:43 PM
So how do they know someone is not abusing it
 
well flag system is abused anyway
 
but generally speaking, they do not reveal that information because it's supposed to be anonymous.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz Jackson 500 with some boss pedal gear
 
@Mr.Meshuggah It's typically based on stuff like rate of flags and what content has been flagged... the same as with any other system.
 
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and EMG Electric Guitar Pickups
 
1:44 PM
Only in Python 2:
 
@Mr.Meshuggah hm, search for "jackson 500" doesn't show me anything definitive. Is it a V?
 
'phone': phone.encode('utf-8'),
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x99 in position 5: ordinal not in range(128)
 
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@BartekBanachewicz just a sec
 
is it a bad idea to work with json in Objective-C? I feel like I'm a bit too stuck in javascript and python
 
Yes. No. Maybe
Depends
 
1:45 PM
@Griwes Dunno, it compiled fine in x86.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Help I'm getting decode errors while encoding
 
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@Crow JSON is a storage format
 
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this one
 
1:45 PM
@CatPlusPlus I've seen it before.
Can you show code?
 
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it's 5-6 years old already
 
Me too
 
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but I replaced the pickups with EMG
 
@Mr.Meshuggah I see. I have an Ibanez S Prestige. (and it's a 14yo)
 
It's BeautifulSoup + Python 2 oddity
 
1:46 PM
May 16 '13 at 12:50, by R. Martinho Fernandes
>>> u'foö'.encode('utf-8').encode('ascii', 'ignore')
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 2: ordinal not in range(128)
>>>
Old instance.
 
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ah, very nice
 
I love my new job <3 there's so much shit that I didn't even know existed thrown at me, I'm basically learning something new every hour
JESUS
 
Oh, double encode
 
May 16 '13 at 12:52, by R. Martinho Fernandes
The thing is, the second encode assumes the byte string is in ASCII, so it tries to decode as ASCII before encoding it as requested as ASCII. This decoding fails and the errors are only ignored when encoding. So you get a decode error in your encode call.
 
I'm wet
 
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1:46 PM
I guess you are a virtuoso by now, right?
 
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@AlexM. For example?
 
@Mr.Meshuggah lol nope. I bought it used, you see. I've been playing for about 3 years, but I suck.
 
The second encode should be a TypeError urgh
 
That explanation can cause aneurisms.
 
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It did
 
1:47 PM
@Mr.Meshuggah everything in C++ 11 and parts of boost, I've only been at it for two days
 
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@BartekBanachewicz Ah, the older the better, I have been playing for like 7-8 but I can't do solos cause I haven't played much the last 5
 
I try to practice as often as I can but it's not enough. It's never enough.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yep.
 
The input is mangled
 
there's this feeling that you get when you don't really know things and you learn them by doing
 
1:48 PM
robot
 
you have no idea if what you're trying is going to work, but in the end it does, and it's all awesome
 
what's the lifetime of objects created in an initializer list (as in, std::initializer_list, not uniform init)
 
Okay fixed it. Decoded with replace where I get the str instead of unicode
 
@Mr.Meshuggah I also replaced my amp recently with a proper tube one. I also have a Zoom G3X modeler. This doesn't help my inabilities but at least sounds nice :)
 
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@BartekBanachewicz this song is for you then I guess :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn3wM6Rxpik#t=54
 
1:49 PM
And for good measure also encoding with replace but that shouldn't trigger
i am the op
 
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@BartekBanachewicz zoom is quite good, but line 6 is a bit better or a truck with bosses
 
@Puppy It's the same as an array would have there.
 
hm.
so it should definitely live until the end of the declaration/full-expression, right?
 
Like, given f({ x, y, z }), pretend it's f(alias<T[]>{ x, y, z })
 
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@BartekBanachewicz you might like this one youtube.com/watch?v=bhRM868Oi2Q
 
1:51 PM
okeydokey
 
@Mr.Meshuggah I've played on HD500 but Zooms have better quality/price ratio IMHO. top-quality Line6 stuff is better alright, but if I were to spend so much money I'd save and get an Axe FX.
 
For, auto x = { x, y, z };, it's as if auto x = alias<T[]>{ x, y, z }; and so on.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz true, it's only more luxurious
 
Also my Zoom runs just on USB power
 
I have T namespace::constant = { stuff, { { stuff } }; and it's crashing in the initializer.
 
1:52 PM
which is really really convenient
 
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ah, that's cool
 
maybe I'll just ask an SO question, it's probably a codegeneration bug then
 
it also has a pretty nice drum machine that syncs with looper
 
@Puppy That doesn't seem parseable.
 
It's my 3rd modeler already and I really knew what I want when choosing it
 
1:53 PM
Typo?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes T is an unordered_map<U, unordered_map<...>>.
VS would not accept { stuff, { stuff } }.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz why do you have so many effects when you are still learning?
 
@Mr.Meshuggah I've sold the previous ones.
 
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or you just prefer to play with them.
 
I like gear vOv
When I practice I don't use it for most parts
 
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1:55 PM
Cool, cool, I appreciate you now more!
 
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:D
 
the effects are mostly a reward for grinding that technique
 
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Yes, I do the same.
 
well I use it sometimes for stuff like practicing delays
 
@Puppy Yeah, but there are three opening braces and only two closing ones.
 
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1:55 PM
Yep, or wah wah is also good
 
there was a great video on gibson.com recently talking about dual 3/4 note delays that Edge from U2 uses
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, that's just my shortening being bad.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz yeah, I've always wondered what this faggy delay was.
 
@Mr.Meshuggah yeah, but it's terribly hard. I have enough problems with my hands :)
7
 
Yeah, just checking.
 
1:56 PM
@Mr.Meshuggah really great video (you need two delays for it though)
 
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@BartekBanachewicz when you learn enough you won't even look at the griff anymore
 
I'd really like to run my tests on x64
 
god
who starred that lol
 
oh FTR, I know that GCC doesn't crash this code, because the tests run on teamcity
 
1:57 PM
oh you.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz btw I used the Gibson lessons to learn how to play.
 
oh I had a lot of colleagues who were able to spend some time with me at the beginning
 
You're doing it on purpose
 
I swear I'm not.
 
I'm torn
 
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1:59 PM
@BartekBanachewicz nice sound, I've gotta run though
 
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Thank you for the good videos, see you soon.
 
see you around then.
 

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