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12:00 PM
Being a passenger on a motorbike is annoying
 
you are most definitely not in my will.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit all of his money will go to lightnesspyramid
 
Cat being a passenger on your motorbike is doubtless annoying, yes
@BartekBanachewicz yay!
 
by car I travel to work in 1,5h in traffic hours, by motorcycle it's 30 minutes
 
@Puppy what you're not even leaving me your debts? selfish bastard
at least give me my tax back
 
12:00 PM
I travel to work entire 10 seconds
 
the only significant debt I have is my student loan and I don't think the government can make anybody pay it back but me
 
@BartoszKP "bike" is p clear in this context
 
Get out of bed and I'm almost there!
 
@BartoszKP that's because bikes are faster than cars. a bike travelling at 70mph will blow by a car travelling at 70mph
 
12:01 PM
@BartoszKP pahahaha
 
> Under £4000 (TBC) | 14.8bhp@9000rpm | 9.2bhp@8000rpm |124.7cc liquid-cooled, 4-stroke single-cylinder
 
welp, "under 4000 GBP" might well spell "under 40000 GBP" for my taste wallet :F
 
12:02 PM
I love strokes on my single cyclinder
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oh god
I can not not star it now
 
Too obvious
 
that's what she said :(
 
obvious, but fun
 
12:03 PM
14.8bhp is pretty strong though.
 
thanks man yeah
 
like I know it's peak power but still
 
9000rpm an' all
brum brum
 
more like whiiiiiiiiiiiii
 
more like whyyyyyyyyyyy
 
12:03 PM
:D
 
hang on you said it was 125cc you lying twat
get out
 
poser
 
they have to be under 125 vOv
 
there's no lying in the Lounge!
 
I bet'cha you can tune the piston to give you more
 
12:04 PM
that's what sh- you know what never mind
 
0.3 cm^3 is like, 0.2mm in travel?
 
more opportunity to die
 
or something like that
 
@BartekBanachewicz er?
 
@CatPlusPlus Try being a passenger on a bicycle.
 
12:05 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit V = S * h
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Try being a passenger on a unicycle.
 
then someone else would have to lug my fat ass
 
typical piston of such a bike has about 6-7cm in diameter I think
maybe less
 
@BartekBanachewicz cheers Dr Newton
 
12:06 PM
you've never heard of Newton
okay
 
I don't believe that Newton came up with that particular law.
 
I'm just not sure if he authored that equation :v
 
I don't give a shit
 
It was a mechanics reference
 
12:06 PM
it's probably been known since antiquity, since it's bloomin obvious.
much like your face.
 
that things fall to the earth is bloomin obvious
 
@Puppy the integral form is a tad less obvious tho
 
inb4 he didnt discover gravity
just shut up
 
well, he obviously didn't discover that things do fall to the earth, he discovered why things fall to the earth.
 
i just inb4d that
 
12:07 PM
also you can typically swap out just the piston and the cylinder in such bikes (for 160/180 for example)
altough I guess original Yamaha parts would be costly
 
you lose so much
 
no, he discovered how, not why
 
he didn't discover either, technically
 
you both lose because I have a cute puppy sleeping on my bed.
 
mental masturbation. gross.
(that or bestiality)
 
12:09 PM
any sexual component is yours, not mine.
 
The standard only says that std::sorts *first must be MoveAssignable and MoveConstructable. Does this mean that a standard-conforming implementation of std::sort is not allowed to ever copy an element?
 
no thanks you can keep it
 
@BartekBanachewicz Definitely more.
 
lol
 
yeah, stating "I have a puppy" is more or less saying "my personality is so ____ that I can't produce anything valuable on my own, so I use my animal to attract your attention and feelings"
 
12:10 PM
@nightcracker No. both of those "concepts" include a fallback to copying
 
Oh wait, cm.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes here
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit AFAIK it's the other way around
 
Yeah, it's usually a bit less than 6.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Copying includes moving, but not the other way around
 
12:10 PM
ok then
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's a 4-stroke though.
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, it's saying, "This discussion is officially so boring, I'd rather talk about a worthless animal sleeping."
 
@Puppy Wait, Daisy is worthless to you? calls RSPCA immediately
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit but I'm not 100% certain, that's why I'm asking
 
12:12 PM
she'd be worth a lot more if she wouldn't bark all the time.
 
Répondez S'il Vous Plaît.... nah Can't be Arsed mate
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're a c++ standard expert, do you happen to know?
 
@nightcracker No, it's definitely the other way around.
 
lol@flag
 
the only person in the world who enjoys flagbait
 
12:13 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes that bike is also 4-stroke. 2-stroke aren't really used a lot nowadays
 
a move may be a copy, but a copy definitely may not be a move.
 
well maybe in scooters
 
right, so it's exactly what I said
 
@Puppy yes, but I'm talking about requirements here
 
@BartekBanachewicz Anyway, yeah, you're right. I thought you meant mm.
 
12:13 PM
<----- C++ standard expert
 
@nightcracker Is that about Lightness's question?
 
@nightcracker So what?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh what question
 
4 mins ago, by nightcracker
The standard only says that std::sorts *first must be MoveAssignable and MoveConstructable. Does this mean that a standard-conforming implementation of std::sort is not allowed to ever copy an element?
 
Oh. I see.
It's raining on me.
 
12:14 PM
pitter patter pitter patter
 
@nightcracker Yes, it does directly mean that it is not permitted to construct a T from an lvalue of type T.
 
well that sucks =/
 
whether constructing T from an rvalue of type T actually invokes a copy is irrelevant.
 
@Puppy wait what?
 
Anyway, I'll have you know that being named "copy constructor" and "move constructor" is orthogonal to being used for copies or moves.
 
12:15 PM
table 20 & table 21 FYI
 
Xeo
Wait, that's irrelevant
 
:17443634 Right, so you can't guarantee that it's copyable, so you can't go copying the elements around.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah I looked at it, but I wasn't exactly sure
 
arguably, you could SFINAE on whether or not it is copyable, I guess.
 
12:16 PM
I thought std::move was bad but C++ has really gone full retard now
 
usually the standard is quite eloborate in explaining what you are allowed to do
 
Xeo
oh FFS, it's raining again
 
pitter patter pitter patter
 
2 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
It's raining on me.
 
but trying to figure out if something is illegal is quite annoying
 
Xeo
12:17 PM
It already rained heavily some hours ago :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It was full retard long before C++11. It's just more obvious where it's full retard now because there's less of it, so it's easier to see.
your move constructor question applies identically to copy constructors but in the other direction, and they were like that in C++03 too.
 
lol, it's raining here also
and I wanted to go eat sth ;\
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit found the top speed finally. The testers were able to get it to over 80mph :O
 
Cue speeding tickets.
 
12:20 PM
I think it's electronically limited to 70 though
 
@BartekBanachewicz the rain?
 
which is 112kph
 
Wait, a motorbike electronically limited to 70mph, and that can't go above 80mph anyway? Is this a motorbike for children?
 
which is pretty enough for a motorbike :v
 
I've never seen a motorbike on the motorway slower than 90mph, except in traffic jams (including approach, leaving said jams)
 
12:21 PM
it's a city bike, not a 1000cc monster
 
LOL
a city bike for a city gal?
you don't need a monster. over here, normal bikes go at 90mph.
 
a city bike for city commute vOv
 
I almost never go over 100kph in the city
 
you don't have one bike for the city and another for the motorways
 
@BartekBanachewicz Given that most EU countries have speed limits around 120-130kph in highways, that seems enough.
 
12:22 PM
@nightcracker Imagine sorting a vector<unique_ptr<T>>.
 
I could see the sense in that
 
if nothing else there isn't enough storage space in either to carry the unused one with you
 
driving the bigger ones in the traffic would have to be tremendously sucking
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Literally nobody abides by the speed limit on motorways here. It's an open secret. The police won't even stop you if you drive past them at anything under 90mph (the limit being 70mph).
 
12:22 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There have been foldup motorbikes.
 
you guys tried to suspend me again
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That doesn't change what I said, though :P
 
@Puppy that vector is ill-formed from the get-go?
 
@chmod711telkitty SUSPEND*
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OTOH most of the people go around 180 on the highways, at least in germany and Poland (where we have them -.-)
 
12:23 PM
@nightcracker Of course it isn't.
 
@Puppy I thought vector required its elements to be copyable
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not inherently but your definition of "enough" I think is pretty sub-par
 
not in C++11.
 
@nightcracker its*
 
at least, not for the majority of vector functions.
 
12:23 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Unfortunately, the creeping advance of average-speed cameras continues..
 
@nightcracker std::sort's*
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and then again, there are city bikes and city cars
 
@MartinJames Especially after crashing at 150km/h.
 
the Committee downgraded Copyable to Movable pretty much everywhere they could.
 
5 flags, you better have good reasons for it ...
 
12:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz lolwut
do you have "city cars" electronically limited to 30mph? then you have to change cars to go on the motorway?
 
Miles per gallon-hour.
 
everyone has two cars?
 
> T must meet the requirements of CopyAssignable and CopyConstructible. (until C++11)
guess I'm outdated
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol not exactly what I was thinking of!
 
12:24 PM
> The requirements that are imposed on the elements depend on the actual operations performed on the container. Generally, it is required that element type is a complete type and meets the requirements of MoveConstructible and MoveAssignable, but many member functions impose stricter requirements.
 
Physical meaning of "gallon-hour" left as an exercise for the reader.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you don't have to limit 1.2l engine really
 
yeah
 
@nightcracker Right but then if it was "relaxed" to require (a) move, (b) copy if move not available (which it obviously was), then surely the defs in Tables 20, 21 are backwards :/
 
I think it makes a lot of sense to have a smaller car for the city and a bigger one if you're doing longer trips
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so I don't really see the issue of owning two bikes
 
12:25 PM
oh, right, no
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Moves degrade to copies already.
 
copying abides by MoveConstructible
 
lol, no
 
strange way to word it
 
two bikes? two insurances? doesn't make sense
 
12:25 PM
@BartekBanachewicz starred for obscene stupidity
 
every copy is a move, not every move is a copy
 
Xeo
@nightcracker whut
 
:|
 
Xeo
12:26 PM
a move can always copy, a copy can't move
 
Well if you like already plan on buying two cars
 
it's not that complicated people
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can always hire a big bike for occasional long trips.
 
ok i dont care
 
12:26 PM
@MartinJames true enough
 
@BartekBanachewicz You have expended today's allotment of IQ; please try again later.
 
renting a bigger car is also an option
 
@Xeo you can implement every move as a copy, but not every copy as a move
 
Hahaha, gotta quote this.
 
12:27 PM
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 29 minutes.
 
See you in 29 minutes, Kitty!
 
high five
 
:G
 
#later
poor kitty =/
 
12:28 PM
banKitty
 
@TonyTheLion SUSPENDKITTY
 
: D
 
> chmod 000 telkitty
 
too sad cannot handle
 
I'm doing OK with cars so far. I haven't known anyone personally who has died in a car crash. So far, it's cars:0, bikes:2, planes:5.
 
Jun 24 at 14:02, by Bartek Banachewicz
the more devices you have, the better tailored they are
 
If I saw this picture before, I wouldn't validate the flag
 
@MartinJames cars:1, bikes:0, planes:0 I think
 
12:28 PM
Lounge<Troll>
 
oh, cars:2 kinda
 
Lounge<T>
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why are you going there?
 
cars: 0, bikes: 0, planes: 0
how the fuck do you even die on a bike
 
Xeo
err
 
12:29 PM
@nightcracker painfully
 
now if you're asking about ownership that's a different story. thanks to donations from SO I now have cars:2, bikes:0, planes:3
 
you get hit by a car
 
Xeo
get run over by a car?
 
and then die
 
By being hit by a car
 
12:29 PM
@Xeo does this kill the bike?
 
or by a truck or train
 
Or a plane
 
how do you get hit by a car
 
or a cat
oh wait
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I seem to carry a death-field around with me. I live on, but co-workers die. I suspect that's why I ended up working for myself:)
 
12:30 PM
like, he has to get over barriers to even hit you
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you should buy a boat
@R.MartinhoFernandes seriously
 
@nightcracker what?
 
Xeo
@nightcracker wtf
 
@TonyTheLion Just pointing out his consistency.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it arrives next month
 
12:30 PM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what inconsistency now
 
:lol: barriers
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit wat
 
seriously
how do you get hit by the car
 
@MartinJames black widow curse? (kinda)
@nightcracker yeah those "barriers" look fucking inpenetrable
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12:30 PM
@nightcracker second meaning
 
Where do you see barriers there
 
Xeo
@nightcracker So you never crossed the road on your bike?
 
no way a moving car's getting up on there
 
@nightcracker the car turns because the driver is drunk
 
@BartekBanachewicz Er, that's not what I said.
 
12:31 PM
HOW DO PEOPLE GET HIT BY CARS WITH ALL THESE SIDEWALKS
 
I DONT GET IT
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh. oh. Shamed retreat.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Black Windows curse, maybe. Black Spectre Of Death.
 
@nightcracker fuck man do you not even see the grass
 
12:31 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I only see weed
 
and do you think that little thing will stop a car?
@MartinJames you're Doomed
 
yeah, and also law forbids driving cars over people, so I don't believe it happens
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good point well made
 
@BartoszKP god forbids it
but then again YOU ARE ALL SINNERS
 
yay sinning!
 
12:32 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not me, just those I associate with. TBH, I'm surprised that nobody died at the unconference.
6
 
@nightcracker Cars and bikes don't run on tracks.
3
 
I thought your motto was "yay druggies"
 
They're free roaming, so crashes are not that surprising.
 
Stop this fucking starring
 
lol
 
12:33 PM
jesus fuck what's with the starwhoring
I don't see Johannes in the user list
 
the fuck is going on?
 
ok
in 2013
 
Xeo
oh ffs
 
Chat is very well coded.
 
12:34 PM
112 people died in bike related incidents in the netherlands
 
You're not funny, you're not interesting, get the fuck out
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Jesus christ
 
will those owner things remove the stars plix?
 
@Puppy Probably telkitty now.
 
> those owner things
 
12:34 PM
@MartinJames haha
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I haven't received my invitation for the cruise yet.
 
You can star when you're banned?
 
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Q: Prevent repeated starring and unstarring of messages

badpIt appears that you get to blink stars on any message as frequently as you want, as long as you want. Some child on The Bridge has just found out about this and the only approach I can think of - banning people at random until the abuse stops - is not something I feel like applying right now. Pl...

 
ok stop unstarring my actual stars tho kthx
 
12:35 PM
@Abyx haha such butthurt
 
@Jefffrey That's not the same problem
 
@TonyTheLion no
 
and it's suspended
 
@Abyx He means me.
 
12:35 PM
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, sorry. They are completely different.
 
The problem is starring being anonymous, as per usual
 
@Jefffrey I don't recall that being possible ... I've never been able to re-star anything?!
 
Seems to work.
 
See the point?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Must have ummmmm gotten lost in the mail?
 
12:36 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I unstarred everything that had a single star. Hard to tell them apart. Just refrain from starring during star outbreaks.
 
I don't know why I said 'interesting' instead of 'clever'
 
huh so it does wtf
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was pre-empting. Fortunately mine survived
Not that it would have been effective pre-emption since you could not know which were mine
But y'know
 
Like herding retarded cats
 
@CatPlusPlus Getting to know who is responsible for the multiple starring won't help you much (currently).
 
12:37 PM
> who is the responsible
 
@Jefffrey Sure it will, we can then just yell at a mod to ban them
 
my engrish it is goad
 
"who is the irresponsible" FTFY
 
lol
 
I wonder how a bike running on tracks would ride
prolly terrible
 
12:38 PM
Who is the annoying unfunny fuck
 
No you
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "fuck you lightness" <- is that correct?
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@Jefffrey haha yes you got it
fffuck you
ahhhh Lounge is fun today I needed this
 
I need to pack my things :F
 
12:39 PM
Similar to this, I suppose.
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit Looking at the transcript for Monday we can see why you would say such a thing :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes naah... you move slightly to the sides to keep balance (obviously can't with that thing, it looks more like Segway). It's impossible with a track bike, but then again, it's also impossible on the tandem bike.
 
Oh. It's Monday.
 
yeah, also in motorbikes the front wheel is mounted in a way that allows it to move sideways
 
12:41 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Welcome to Monday.
 
@BartoszKP what the actual fuck
 
Mar 11 '13 at 16:43, by Tony The Lion
user image
Monday ^^
 
we are looking for a female key-note speaker for the NoSQL matters Dublin. If you are know someone | interested yourself, ping me /cc @janl
why the fuck would you look for a "female speaker" specifically
what purpose does that serve
 
It's a keynote about how NoSQL and ladyparts work well together.
Duh.
 
12:44 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit don't know the precise terminology in english, the point is the front wheel doesn't go exactly straight ahead, and thanks to it the bike keeps balance itself
 
So if SQL is terrible, does that make NoSQL awesome?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know about front wheel driving dampers, but dunno if that's what @BartoszKP meant
 
@TonyTheLion No
 
@TonyTheLion NoSQL is SQL in disguise.
 
oh
I don't really know much about NoSQL
 
12:46 PM
It's a mind trick.
 
regex that is not slash delimited always seem to throw me for a while
 
@BartekBanachewicz Wait. A keynote speaker?
 
my question was based on ignorance
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Sounds like a really good conference.
 
> regex
that alone throws me
 
12:47 PM
for real?
tis easy
 
> Selecting a keynote speaker who is well known for his or her expertise in a particular field, or who has wide name recognition due to other accomplishments, will probably raise enthusiasm among prospective attendees for a meeting or conference.
 
@BartekBanachewicz no, I'll try to find it
 
"It's a woman!"
Such enthusiasm.
 
god what the fuck
@BartoszKP I'm trying ^ :P
 
yeah it sounds like they're trying to be progressive without actually being progressive
 
12:48 PM
150ccs of suicide?
 
that one is 950 I think
but it's not about the engine here, it's about the front fork, or lack of it
> Dear Bartosz Banachewicz,

This is Alexei writing from Samsung Electronics (South Korea).

Currently, Samsung Electronics has some RnD vacancies in South Korea, with further information being available in the vacancy descriptions:
@Puppy maybe you want to move to south korea? :P
 
lol
 
Xeo
:( Salary talk tomorrow, other chef / lead coder guy is unexpectedly not in today.
 
convenient
probably a tactic to throw you off
 
Xeo
don't think so
 
12:52 PM
anyway why do you have chefs running salary discussions? that seems odd
:laffo:
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He meant "celery".
 
protip: jokes are supposed to be funny.
 
well I never...
 
I know you never
 
s/\./ fap/
 
12:58 PM
@Xeo if he isn't in today, he doesn't get a say in the outcome. Take your raise while you can. :p
 
Xeo
> Why does the explicit operator bool not in effect as expected?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes try case-insensitive?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ಠ_ಠ
fool
 

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