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5:00 PM
@AlexM. It's super cute tho
 
We are all supposed to die of cancer, unfortunately.
It's just that some of us die before that.
 
I'm not an animal rights activist at all, but fuck you if you get a bulldog.
Fuck you especially if you get a bulldog and are all hipster vegan or whatever.
 
I still don't know what vegan means. Ignorance is bliss.
 
golden retrievers are cute
nobody has one near me
the only time I saw a golden retriever was years ago on my trip to Dusseldorf
 
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5:04 PM
@AlexM. Yup. Also labradors.
 
it's like I live in a fucking cave full of bichons and pekingese dogs
 
@Jefffrey My coworker doesn't eat anything whose production might have caused animals to suffer.
Well, at least as far his ignorance lets him.
 
So yeah, today I tried to wear one of these. I never did and I've always been quite reluctant. I swear I would have fucked myself. "Camice" makes everything awesome.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Some studies have recently showed that vegetables emits some ultrasounds right before or during being cut, which resemble screams.
Or something like that.
 
@Jefffrey It's what you call a person who live in Vegas.
 
It's not simple, really.
Recently I told him one of the ways to seal wooden casks for storing alcoholic drinks.
He didn't know animal fat was involved in making whisky.
 
5:10 PM
I say that killing is ok, as long as there's no other way to gather that kind of food and as long as it's as fast and as painless as possible.
"as"-fest
 
If you want to be really really vegan, you'll have a micromanagement nightmare tracking all the food you get.
Short of growing your own food, I guess.
 
And your own everything else, really.
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes suffering includes death there, right?
 
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What if an animal died without humans being involved?
 
5:15 PM
@rightfold Remember that humans selectively bred chickens that lay more eggs.
@rightfold Same.
 
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Nice.
 
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Also fuck that blister in my mouth.
 
ITT humans play with the Darwin's law. And they fucking enjoy it.
 
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We adapt the environment to ourselves instead of the other way around.
 
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Also somehow we keep producing inferior humans, rather than superior humans.
 
5:19 PM
@rightfold The other way around too.
See also: city foxes, city birds.
 
@rightfold someone benefits from having most of the population be dumb
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Sure.
 
I say humanity is progressing faster than ever right now
 
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I hope my cause of death will be “someone destroyed the entire planet and everything on it.”
 
it's just that the group of people who are enjoying the progress the most is very small
 
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5:23 PM
@AlexM. Don’t worry. That’ll be over soon.
 
@AlexM. Technology. Not "humanity" as a specie really.
 
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@Jefffrey Implementation and use of such tools is a feature of our species.
 
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We’re the only known species to do this.
 
we're the only species to use tools?
 
er
there are many species known to use tools.
 
5:35 PM
yes
 
I linked to a video sometime ago where this bird was baiting fish with bread
 
none as sophisticated as us, of course
 
@jalf God offered the monkeys and birds the gnu suite at creation time - they turned it down, so we got stuck with it.
The cockroaches were offered MySQL, again...
 
sophisticated and complex tool use is a hallmark of our species compared to others on this planet, but we are far from the only ones who use tools.
monkeys, birds, and crustaceans are also known tool users
 
The m-word!
 
5:38 PM
what, monkeys?
or MySQL?
 
@MartinJames I have no idea what you're talking about :|
@DeadMG sophisticated and complex tool creation, I'd say
 
@DeadMG Merde.
 
@jalf I'd say more that it expands our natural toolset far more than other species.
I mean
monkeys have been shown to throw stones and crack nuts with stones, but it doesn't fundamentally change what they're capable of, I feel
not in the same way that the tools that humans have built do.
 
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lol
 
other species don't create tools that allow them to survive in new environments
 
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5:41 PM
Someone stole exams again this year.
 
Maybe we're the only species that uses tools to make other tools?
 
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But this time they were already done, and about the most worthless subject ever.
 
@EtiennedeMartel poop
 
@rightfold Are you going to make us guess?
 
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@DeadMG not tools as advanced as ours.
 
5:42 PM
@DeadMG but haven't some apes figured out how to use iPads? I seem to recall some study about that. Apes don't have iPads because they can't make them, not because the can't use them ;)
 
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@MartinJames arts, lol.
 
@jalf Sure. You can teach a gorilla to drive.
 
@jalf I've seen dogs driving on the news, recently.
 
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I said “such tools,” not “tools.”
 
@DeadMG but you can't teach them to make a car :D
 
5:43 PM
probably not.
 
Hello
 
not without a lot of handholding, at least
 
I have a question
 
Incoming...
 
@jalf They can't use the tools to make the iPads!
 
5:44 PM
on the sit
 
I have an answer
 
-3
Q: Can I have a member function of a class called by another member function and how to do so?

Mohamed AhmedTo check the logic of the provided code, I will put cout statements in key() to print the bitsets and variables inside it. I don't know how to have key() called by another member function, I don't know if it can be done in the first place. Here is the code: #include <iostream> #include <math.h>...

 
hat?
 
5:44 PM
-3 even before incoming downvotes.
 
How?
"3 even before incoming downvotes."
 
Just call the thing!
 
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@DeadMG Q/A ratio of 32/2.
 
your question was already voted at -3.
 
my interpretation is that means Java sucks more and more, and soon it is going to suck even more than C# — gnat 3 hours ago
 
5:45 PM
I took on the impossible mission of buying eggs
 
I want to know what is wrong with my question
 
I have successfully acquired eggs
 
and we, or at least I, commonly downvote people who link their questions in here
 
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But hey, at least those two are self-answers!
 
5:45 PM
and tortillas, and a cheese pie, and cheese slices and chocolate and coke
 
@AlexM. OK, did you steal the eggs?
 
so listen, whilst you were gone, we had this discussion about complex tool use
 
sorry
 
@MartinJames goodness no
 
and I'm afraid that you no longer qualify as human
 
5:46 PM
the shopkeeper is a pretty lady who is always nice with me
 
we had to downgrade you to gorilla.
 
I'd never steal anything from her
 
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@DeadMG Don’t tell that to sbi.
 
@AlexM. OK, so you didn't buy the eggs and you didn't steal them..... Did you lay the eggs?
 
well I did buy them
1 min ago, by Alex M.
I took on the impossible mission of buying eggs
 
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5:47 PM
@AlexM. Didn’t you bring twelve bottles of milk instead?
 
I think that you have no patiecce for new comers
alot of you
 
we don't have much patience for old comers either
 
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Mohamed I am in love with you.
 
comer sounds kinky
but maybe it's just me
 
@MohamedAhmed That's 'cos this is a LOUNGE where we try to escape from work and the increasingly inane questions on SO.
 
5:48 PM
@rightfold kiss him, you fool?
 
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Speaking of being in love.
 
@rightfold lol nah I speak both code and natural language
 
@jalf Or preferably just get a room.
 
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Not sure if I should buy those fine glasses.
 
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I find €155,— kinda expensive for a pair of sunglasses.
 
5:50 PM
you're an expensive pair of sunglasses.
 
155 eur wow
are those made of gold?
 
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Plastic, glass and metal.
 
OK, we have no patients in here. Lucky this is not a hospital site.
 
Ok, thanks to your downvotes I am no longer able to post questions
 
lucky us, frankly
 
5:51 PM
@MohamedAhmed You deleted it before I could downvote.
 
@rightfold Ah, I got new glasses last week. I looked at sunglasses too, they had a whole wall of €230 ones
 
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Maybe you should post answers instead.
 
but that was Danish prices. Everything is expensive here :D
 
Thanks alot
 
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No problem mate. That’s why I love you.
 
5:52 PM
@MohamedAhmed Next step: complain on Meta Stack Overflow
 
@rightfold No - downvoting answers costs rep.
 
@MohamedAhmed Any time.
 
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@Jefffrey Metaballs.
 
@MartinJames So what?
 
I will not complain
 
5:53 PM
@MohamedAhmed Why was the question at -3 to begin with? Perhaps you should improve the question, and then ask people to remove their down votes? :)
 
I've got like 89k, that's like, 44k downvotes.
I can afford to throw a few of those away
 
Ahh
Do you think people will change their votes?
 
@DeadMG Meh - I've, like 14.5k. I s'pose I could spare a few.
 
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@MohamedAhmed Probably not.
 
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5:54 PM
I like the patterns.
 
@MohamedAhmed Well, it's difficult now that the question is deleted, but yes, people typically do that. If you improve your question so that it no longer warrants a down vote, many (not all) will remove their downvotes
 
I can undelete it can't I?
 
unfortunately
 
@MohamedAhmed proooobably. I don't know if that requires a certain amount of rep
 
not for your own questions that you deleted.
 
5:56 PM
@DeadMG k, knock it off. There's no point in discouraging people from trying to fix their questions
 
@MohamedAhmed > Post a small, representative bit of code that shows the specific problem. Don't just dump all of your code and expect us to pick through it.
 
I have undeleted it, and deleted it again
Will try to do so
 
once you understand this, you are a giant step ahead
 
Thanks
alot for the second time
 
@MohamedAhmed Try to improve the title 'Can I have a member function of a class called by another member function and how to do so?' is misleading - it's no problem to call another member function - you just call it.
 
5:58 PM
make it easy for people to understand the problem and answer it. Even if that means extra work on your part in preparing the question :)
 
@MohamedAhmed Also, don't ever behave like people owe you anything.
That's a big one.
 
In Wikipedia
 
@Jefffrey s/own/owe/, possibly
 
we behave that way
:)
 
@jalf lol, thanks
I don't have the slightest clue about what you are talking about with "in wikipedia we", but if it works for you I'm happy.
 
6:00 PM
My question will be titled "What is the return type of a function that returns another function
"
 
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So this exists. (NSFW)
 
Is that good enough?
 
@MohamedAhmed it makes sense to me, yes
 
@MohamedAhmed It's better, yes.
 
6:01 PM
@MohamedAhmed Yes, but the main problem of you question was not the title.
 
@rightfold :O
 
@Jefffrey I didn't actually get any further than the title;)
 
So just to understand things better, this lounge is not really about C++, it is about C++ programmers chatting about things that are not necessarily C++ related?
 
@MohamedAhmed Bingo!
well, not just C++ programmers. But mostly
 
Ok
Won't post question here again
 
Xeo
6:03 PM
@Mysticial Hey did you know? NGNL is out :D
 
ok, I'm heading out for a bit. Have fun all
 
my tortillas taste like fish
 
@Xeo Fuck you. I'm at work. :)
 
@MohamedAhmed Yay! C++ OK, but we are much more interested in how @AlexM got his eggs.
 
@Xeo New Game Netherlands?
 
6:03 PM
@MohamedAhmed Lounge first, C++ second.
 
and they're not fish flavored tortillas
 
@MartinJames Some of us were talking about tool-using animals, I believe!
 
@MohamedAhmed Martin is right, my eggs are currently the trending topic
 
@jalf Can't make an omlette without using a tool to break eggs.
 
6:04 PM
@MartinJames make a function for that
Just trying to throw a joke
:)
 
omelettes with cheese are great
 
I will get out of here ASAP
 
@MohamedAhmed I would, but would it be a member function of chicken, or egg?
 
@MartinJames Simple, use inheritance, I thinks!
*think
 
@MohamedAhmed I hate circular dependencies.
 
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6:07 PM
Inheritance is the base class of evil.
 
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Also just make the return type auto really.
 
It is very obvious that the checken came before the egg, according to Evolution theory
 
@MohamedAhmed You don't need to. As long as you don't act like an help vampire. :D
 
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Eggs came before chicken.
 
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The only criterion is that it’s an egg. Nobody said what kind of egg.
 
6:09 PM
Is there a polished version of Haskell?
 
OK, so instead of the diamond problem, we now have a chicken/egg issue too.
 
Salam, people
Peace
 
@MohamedAhmed salam
 
@Jefffrey ?? Polish keywords?
@MohamedAhmed Don't get much peace in here.
 
In here where?
 
6:10 PM
lounge
 
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@AlexM. My dildo looks like lipstick, lol.
5
 
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I’m bad at designing dildos.
 
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I’ll leave it up to professional dildo designers.
 
don't give up, I'll teach you
I mean
uh
yeah, leave it to them
 
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@AlexM. Hot. :3
 
6:12 PM
Did I miss a thread about designing sex aids?
 
ahem
 
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@MartinJames Is that a pun?
 
@rightfold ask @Rapptz
 
@rightfold It just popped up.
 
ketchup is a great replacement for any tomato-based sauce as I find
no pasta sauce? ketchup + parmesan
 
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6:12 PM
Ketchup makes everything taste good.
 
no tortilla sauce? ketchup works fine
 
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I bet it even makes ketchup taste good.
 
dat infinite recursion
 
OK, I'm gonna see if we have ketchup. If not, I'm passing Tesco later.
 
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6:14 PM
I wouldn’t use that one.
 
me neither
 
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It’s not very realistic.
 
are you sure it's not a hat?
 
Which end goes... never mind.
 
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6:15 PM
s/r/u/
 
@MartinJames Both
 
@rightfold lol I mean, how dare you?
 
@CatPlusPlus Ow!
 
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@Jefffrey I dare everything.
 
I'm enjoying this too much.
 
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They made a mistake.
 
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Unfriendliest #1 should obviously be Lounge<C++>, with a score of 0.
 
That's not true.
 
Obviously you haven't heard of the bat country
 
Can't stop there.
 
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6:22 PM
You bet.
 
why does this useless and outdated comment have two upvotes? >.<
Yes, but that usage is deprecated in favour of unnamed namespaces, even in the 2003 Standard: "[namespace.unnamed] 2 The use of the static keyword is deprecated when declaring objects in a namespace scope (see annex D); the unnamed-namespace provides a superior alternative." — BoBTFish 9 hours ago
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit exactly what makes it outdated?
 
class GError a where
pretty clear that a has to be a thing.
 
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@Jefffrey GError is a type class.
 
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6:27 PM
You cannot use it as a type.
 
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handleError :: GError a => a -> IO ()
handleError = putStrLn . errorMessage
 
lol
thanks
 
Also it still won't work, because there's no way to infer a
 
'i am sending data from client to receiver and have made sleep call for 10 sec in server side.Now,when i am sending data from client 1000000 times the server receives it very slowly' - it's a mystery...
 
> It all depends on your attitude when visiting any country.. If you see your self superior than the locals, then you face an unfriendly people, but when you exchange the respect, then you expect the best.. I had great times vacationing all over the globe.. ENJOY..
oh yeah, tell that to the Romanian gypsies
"look at this idiot being all respectful and shit. easy target."
 
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6:30 PM
ALEX YOU RACIST
 
no I'm not!
 
clearly are.
 
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Romanian gypsies is obviously a race.
 
@sehe To say "file-static is deprecated in C++" is out of date by three years and (almost) two standards. C++11 undeprecated it.
 
@rightfold no it's not it's more of a full tournament
 
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6:31 PM
dat pun
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh. I didn't know. I do feel that file-static is unneeded, and anonymous naemspaces are a bit more expressive
 
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næmspace
 
@sehe I could never decide how I felt about it either way, to be honest. But there was some decent enough rationale amongst TPTB to stop pretending that it was patently a bad idea and get it deprecated.
going out now
tata
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't know what you mean.
 
Anonymous namespaces don't work very well for header-only libraries
 
6:33 PM
Cat saves boy from dog attack in Southwest Bakersfield theindychannel.com/tablet-showcase/…
that cat is pretty damn badass
 
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@CatPlusPlus Neither do statics. :v
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sounds reasonable. I guess my "dislike" for file-static stems mostly from the fact that static is already so overloaded, that it doesn't convey the meaning very clearly. I don't mind using it/reading it, though
 
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@Jefffrey You changed the main function there.
 
@rightfold Only a race if there's a nice tarmac job at the end.
 
@rightfold I guess
 
6:35 PM
@rightfold Yes. To show that the type is correctly "inferred"?
It was main = putStr "ok" before. Not a particularly useful main.
 
Ah man... It didn't take long for me to see gold badge holders reopening a question to answer it instead of reclosing as a better duplicate.
 
linkage?
 
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Q: Why we have to use new operator?

BenekI'm trying to understand why we have to use new operator in C++. I have wrote short program: int N; std::cin >> N; int tab[N]; for (int i = 0; i < N; i++) tab[i] = i + 1; for (int i = 0; i < N; i++) std::cout << "tab[" << i << "] = " << tab[i] << std::endl; This program works correctly. Th...

I closed it as a dupe.
Someone found a better dupe. Reopened it and answered instead of reclosing as the better dupe.
 
Sooner or later they'll notice that that system doesn't work and bring it back to how it was before.
tl;dr they'll understand points and badge don't mean a thing
 
@Xeo the latest No game no life - rofl /cc @StackedCrooked
 
6:41 PM
@Mysticial What's the better dupe?
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth IT'S INCREADIBLY FUCKING AWESOME
 
80
Q: Variable length arrays in C++?

Andreas BrinckI haven't used C very much in the last few years. When I read this question today I came across some C syntax which I wasn't familiar with. Apparently in C99 the following syntax is valid: void foo(int n) { int values[n]; //Declare a variable length array } This seems like a pretty useful...

 
Ahaha I made a private room on HipChat and HipChat sent me "Cat just invited you to the room stuff but you're away"
 
It's actually kind of a dupe of two questions.
Meh...
 
well there's a dozen C++ goldbadge holders in here
 
6:42 PM
Oh, the original comment saying that was the better dupe has been deleted.
 
I think someone will reopen it anyway.
 
There's gonna be a war between those who want to dupe and those who want to answer.
 
there's gotta be 10k questions about some idiot who accidentally used VLAs in GCC
 
It's forecast warm again for tomorrow. I'm gonna go buy choc-ices.
 
Xeo
THIS FUCKIN EPISODE! 42 * 10^42 of 10. /cc @Mysticial @StackedCrooked @ScarletAmaranth
 
6:46 PM
You don't buy choices, sill... oh wait.
 
@Xeo yeah; it's spifficated
 
@Xeo Yeah I hate you.
 
Xeo
@Mysticial You've got something to look forward to.
 
meh it's too hard to watch ongoings. you forget almost everything by the time when you see the next episode
 
6:55 PM
@JohanLarsson lol yeah
 
pic is shopped
 
REST APIs: embedding related objects in the response, or just the ID?
 

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