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23:00
@Ell stereotypes are okay to generalize but not to pass judgement on the individual, IMO.
@Ell stereotypes them selves are not really a problem, is acting on them that is.
any way, night chaps
@EtiennedeMartel bah, I was talking about religion
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@thecoshman will do, ill only really be able to look at it tomorrow though. Night anyway
@Ell Not "often", that's the thing.
but my perspective isn't big enough to pass judgement on Canada, so like an objective person I keep my thought to what I know... this country.
@EtiennedeMartel Yes often. Stereotypes are averages. Not everyone is an average. That's why it's bad to use it as a basis to judge a person.
23:02
@melak47 he's on linux. now what?
@Chemistpp Not averages. Just whatever a society thinks of a particular group at a given point in time.
@EtiennedeMartel perceived averages
then ;)
@Chemistpp Yes, perceived.
Which means biased.
"average" implies it has some statistical significance.
HWND hWnd = FindWindow("CryENGINE", "Crysis 2 (TM)");
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But biased doesn't mean totally unreliable
23:03
Is there a way I could do this for a process that doesn't have a window title or anything? Like plugin-container.exe in firefox.
But it doesn't. Especially considering stereotypes are usually driven by a minority within a group.
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It just means take with a pinch of salt
Which skews everything.
@EtiennedeMartel It was a statement to concede.
@Alec cryengine sucks
@Alec ugh "hacking"
23:04
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Q: Returning a Pointer to an Array

alini am learning C++ from C++ Primer, and I arrive at Returning a Pointer to an Array by a function. The book present me a lot of methods like : using typedef or without , using auto, or decltype . So i try using the method without typedef : int (*func(int i))[10]; and I made a small function : #in...

Oh dear.
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@alec you can enumerate processes and use that
btw where is vancouver
it's in canada isn't it?
@BartekBanachewicz West coast of Canada.
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Yeah
@BartekBanachewicz I think NW canada?
23:05
@EtiennedeMartel I am going to SIGGRAPH 2014 fuck me, I won't eat
eer, SW canada
Third largest city in Canada, pretty big place for animation and game development.
@Chemistpp Why do you tell him that after we all told him?
@EtiennedeMartel because I'm not as witty in a chat room
23:07
@EtiennedeMartel fuck game development. graphics!
@BartekBanachewicz Dude, art.
@EtiennedeMartel Shaders are art.
@BartekBanachewicz That would be like saying a paint brush is art.
my boss said convert to pdf today
@BartekBanachewicz let's see something then!
23:07
@ell Thanks.
who was that on the warpath against convert
@melak47 my shaders are rather trivial by the state-of-the-art standard
@BartekBanachewicz :)
@EtiennedeMartel you can't paint without a paintbrush
@BartekBanachewicz Still doesn't make it art.
23:08
@EtiennedeMartel pff maybe for you
I want to be a graphics dev, not a game dev.
Art is the result, not the technique.
I don't think you can really define what art is or is not
@EtiennedeMartel ^ he's got a point
@BartekBanachewicz You're only saying that because it kinda somewhat almost but not really validates your lack of arguments.
@EtiennedeMartel I really think that using GPU to its fullest potential is not only a technical process
you need a lot of imagination, and in the end you show images to the human eye
23:10
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not saying you can't create art with a GPU.
You can define it with our current context, it's a painting, it's a poem, etc... however, modern art is always changing, it could be a tool, an instrument, an extension of the human hand that builds something beautiful. Anyway, art inspires emotions, since we're all different and get our kicks from different things, calling one thing not art is trying to define what makes me tick
I'm just saying the GPU in itself is nothing more than a tool.
I'm building software, not GPUs
anyway, I should go to sleep
I know that in your savage country it's a middle of the day
19h here.
I should go home.
hopefully I can visit you in 2014
23:11
I'm on the other side of the country.
if I am going to spend that much $$$ on a ticket, I might as well meet my brony
hopefully I'll meet with kbok and rightfold soon in Amsterdam
anyway, goodnight everypony.
I'd get lost in the hash shops
night
@BartekBanachewicz Montreal is a few thousand kilometers from Vancouver.
It's a big country.
@EtiennedeMartel don't speak reason to me
hey mind if I ask you guys what a good IDE for mingw is? VS crashes on install, codeblocks triggers my AV and won't let me install, and Qt designer seems like using bathroom cleaner to wash my dishes since it's a console app
23:14
VS crashes? I think something might be wrong with your computer.
if I could pick your brains for awhle
With that said, I'm leaving. Good evening people!
@RolandSams QtCreator, and it's not a console app
@RolandSams Qt designer is a console app? wut?
23:14
@EtiennedeMartel good evening
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@bartek night if you're going :)
@Ell I really should
my app I'm building is a console all
app
doesn't matter
had sex
also reinstall windows if VS install crashes
@RolandSams QtCreator != Qt Designer.
23:15
sorry I forgot what it was called
I have eclipse but apparently that sucks
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@Etienne does that mean code cannot be art? :o (wrt art is a finished product, not a tool)
@Ell Code can be art.
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@Roland if you already have it, it doesn't matter if it apparently sucks
Only if it actually sucks for you
@deadmg I think Etienne thinks otherwise
I think code can be art too
so?
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Well, I was just saying
So what if you think code can be art? O.o
You were just saying, right? :P
23:23
damn, implementing something as; std::vector<T> func (); ... auto v = pass_as_range (func (), 0) (std::accumulate); where it's equivalent to auto x = func (); auto v = std::accumulate (std::begin (x), std::end (x), 0); without using macros gave me more headache than I'd like to admit..
er, no
the difference is that you and I were (or at least, could have been) having a conversation about it.
whereas Etienne is not here and therefore cannot participate.
that's why his opinion is, right now, completely irrelevant.
I am just trying to find a IDE to let me program efficiently like syntax highlighting and intellisence and class views
@RolandSams what's wrong with QtCreator again?
I'm working on a console app
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You don't have to use qt
For the ide
23:28
@RolandSams lol
The only reason I like Eclipse is how it lets you know where the build errors are before you compile
@RolandSams dude. QtDesigner is for designing GUIs and stuff. QtCreator doesn't have to make a GUI app...
Import Existing Project...
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@deadmg well, my bad I guess. I agree that code can be art
Like writing
WTF? Oh, Francis Bacon. Wots been goin' on while I've been getting ratted?
23:31
> that is one very poetic algorithm, nice job! --No one, ever
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@melak47 what if the variables rhyme? :P
@Ell Good design/development is good art. Sadly, often not understood.
@RolandSams Oh - I'm so sorry.. :)
@MartinJames hmm?
Wow. If you look there are a great many IDEs for MinGW
Which operator in C++ most closely matches the in g ∘ f?
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Ohh I can't see that :(
Xeo
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23:36
g <compose> f
@Xeo right, I recall that silly idea.
Xeo
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It's not silly!
@RolandSams Don't worry - I'm slaughtered. OTOH, console apps are a bit 1960's. I could not sell a console app to a single one of my customers: "WTF is that black box - what do I click on?"
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There is no way to get infix operators in c++ is there?
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44 secs ago, by Xeo
g <compose> f
23:37
@Ell +
or reuse one
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Oh yeah. Of course
Me so stupid
Oh, I see from starboard that things that were bad earlier have deteriorated further: 'bestiality enthusiasts'. I dare not look back over transcript in case of threads about pig-shagging.
Which is the least commonly overloaded operator in C++?
My head is full of nasty images and Bishop's Finger. I'm going to bed. BFN.
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@StackedCrooked ->*, I'd guess
23:44
Would it make sense to submit a proposal for a function composition operator?
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Not really, I think
You can do function composition with std::bind, and in C++, it really doesn't come up all that often
May 14 at 11:24, by Xeo
So, function composition through named operators and through member functions /cc @ThePhD
I just remembered that
@Xeo ->* a single operator?
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Yes
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@stacked fix mobile view on Coliru :(
@Ell you mean /mobile is broken?
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23:51
You can't scroll the source text box :/
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I can't anyway
I've looked at this several times, but I have no idea how to fix it.
And I almost never use mobile myself.

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