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2:00 PM
dammit where is rightfold
 
I am pretty sure that on modern HW it could be implemented more efficiently though
I am also pretty sure somewhere in top secret NVidia labs they have a working 100%-gpu based algorithm that's a few times faster than triangle rendering
 
Meh software patents
 
but... amazing rendering ideas!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, patents are not meant as jokes? Oooops.
@BartekBanachewicz Totally. Why make money out of it when you can... wait, what?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not ready yet
 
2:04 PM
What does "working" mean, then?
++rg                    //  rg.front()
rg++                    //  rg.back()
Why am still looking at this.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the biggest problem is updating
skeleton-based animation is trivial compared to it... and damn me if skeleton-based animation is easy
 
@BartekBanachewicz I cannot make sense of that as an answer to that question :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well you know how minecraft looks, huh? Imagine you've made a giant, dunno, puppy in minecraft. You can render it absurdly fast, but try making it move now.
 
I hate debuggging 3rd party components
 
@BartekBanachewicz Do they have a working algorithm or not?
Are you trying to confuse me?
 
2:07 PM
delicious animals should self immolate more
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they published drafts of working one for static scenes long ago.
@R.MartinhoFernandes nothing is sure here, it's only my intuition.
 
But that doesn't sound secret at all.
@BartekBanachewicz Right, but if they have it, what are they waiting for?
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 flying fried chicken fried chicken falling from the sky ...? :3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think it's either not as good as they'd like it to be yet, or they are having problems with toolchains for artists to create a convincing demo
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf sounds like a reborn phoenix more like BBQed chicken on a tree
 
2:09 PM
Maybe I'm just saying things as dumb as alien conspiracy theory, but the fact that NVidia pushed bindless_texture to 4.4 is apparent
 
@BartekBanachewicz who is considered Nvidea's rival in GPU's anyway? AMD is way behind
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf heh... Intel
 
@chris Make the boxes bigger, justify the text.
 
@CatPlusPlus Ragged edges > rivers.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf and ARM and Qualcomm
 
2:11 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what's an example of Qualcomm's GPU's ? And who makes the mini gpu things in like the scrolling tv's
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Adreno
 
Scrolling TVs?
 
"scrolling tv's" ?
 
That needs GPUs?
 
1 min... well does it? Like those ad's that scroll on a large banner sized tv
 
2:12 PM
I was talking about specialized 3D processors, not trivial shit for displaying ads (no offense to people making them)
 
like this encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/… aka shit for displaying ads. not specialized and not that difficult compared to the shit full gpu's need to do
 
Well, I guess you could call it a graphics processing unit.
 
I dunno, there's shitload of small manufacturers
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf I'd say pretty much anything would do fine there.
 
yeah i was going on tangents
 
2:13 PM
but you asked for NVidia's rivals, so...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've made some slight improvements. Still need to look into that copy thing... and kind having to make do with the way the wrapped line does not indent...
 
is there a shortcut to opening multiple windows like on irssi? ... I'm just opening them all up and then closing .. which is inefficient
 
goToScreen(pages[pageProcess[pagePointer]][2], pages[pages[pageProcess[pagePointer]][2]][3]);
if(pageProcess[pagePointer-1] == 7 && pageProcess[pagePointer] == 0) { ... }
please, kill me...
 
it would so much easier if CSS had some sort element:that_has_child(class) but sadly, it does not
 
@melak47 who wrote that amazing piece of code?
 
2:16 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Looks like OS code to me.
 
@BartekBanachewicz one of my fellow students who works on this stupid webapp project with me
 
@TonyTheLion was on 9gag today
@R.MartinhoFernandes tadaaaa...
 
damn a repost on the Internet. Well, I never...
 
2:17 PM
@melak47 kick him in the groin
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, the pages[pages[...]] lookup reminded me of some tricks we did with page tables in class (the virtual address space page tables kind).
 
these are literally pages. web pages.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes thank god I am not a low-level developer
 
@thecoshman when is css4 going to be popularly supported?
 
> Overall, the United States is sitting on approximately 1.442 trillion barrels of recoverable oil.
woah
 
2:19 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf is it out yet?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think most of the spec (the working draft?) is. let me look; dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4
 
@BartekBanachewicz I am a low-level developer, (sometimes), but that does not stop me throwing up when fed with rubbish. 'Magic indexes' :(
 
@MartinJames what sort of tricks :3.
 
Don't ask me. The robot is the trickery expert :)
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a few weeks ago someone posted a funny job that required 10 years' node.js experience. can't find it :(
 
2:22 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit was node even used 10 years ago ....
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf node.js didn't exist 10 years ago.
 
We placed a page table somewhere in physical memory, filled it up with entries to map some virtual addresses (like the code section and shit), and then enabled virtual address translation. After that point it is tricky to update the page table (e.g. to map/allocate new virtual addresses) because you can no longer access physical memory (any address you access will be translated according to the table).
 
yeah i'm looking at the github logs now
 
someone posted this on FB and I wanted to reply to it
user image
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Even if it was, anyone approaching that level of experience would have been sectioned or committed suicide by now.
 
2:23 PM
You can constantly disable and re-enable virtual address translation when you need to update the table, but that is still tricky because you have some code that will be running in physical addresses and some code in virtual addresses (consider the IP!).
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah .0.0.1 was in 2011. HR at it's best
 
We just instead mapped the page table's physical address itself into a fixed virtual address and used that directly. That's where the pages[pages[...]] thingy comes.
Or something.
I don't remember it all.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes A wise move. Try to forget it more.
 
2:25 PM
or maybe it was twitter
yeahh
Recruiter: NODE DEVELOPER 10 YEARS PLUS EXPERIENCE, JAVASCRIPT KNOWLEDGE OPTIONAL.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Erk! I just noticed 'Hi James'..
 
@MartinJames What I remember the most from it is that it was one hell of a mental knot.
 
@MartinJames They forgot the "Mr"
 
well, "Hi James" definitely sounds more personal
like as if they know you as a friend
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit couldn't that be a paradox? Knowing javascript but not knowing node or the reverse
 
2:28 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That way they saved themselves from assuming a wrong gender!
 
Abrasive responses on twitter annoy me no end. Does this guy end up on your twitter TL's if you followed me?
@sehetw not really! All I see is inexperienced dev!
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 If they knew me as a friend, the would not direct garbage at me like 'using git instead of PHP' :)
 
@sehe Only if we follow both, or if you retweeted it.
 
What is wrong with you
 
Did I mention that this is one of the reasons that make me hate C++ a bit more every time I see this? :P — H2CO3 6 mins ago
he's so retarded
 
2:30 PM
Alright.
 
@DeadMG hehe
 
I need a debugger for HP-UX. Where do I get it? I mean their native debugger.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In which case, I won't. I was thinking about removing my replies. Since he went on to reply with more fuss. I was contemplating responses including:
> @ ppetrovdotnet It took me a while. But I got it. Consider using a twitter client allowing 140 chars without minimum # exclamation marks
 
weird ... I can read history now
 
@sehe lolwut
 
2:31 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes this short overview might be of an interest to you. I am not sure at what point you'll get bored, I can talk endlessly about graphics :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. Another line of response was "Did I say something wrong? I don't know what you're trying to say". But I guess all I could ever receive is more scorn from the man with no patience and a lot of judgment.
 
Very high voxel
resolution 
– Animation difficult
 
@ppetrovdotnet, Bulgaria
Coding my way through life following the holy C trinity C/CPP/Csharp. Hooked on music for a life #pirate. I #junglist Massive...
948 tweets, 267 followers, following 1.3k users
> holy C trinity
4
 
@MartinJames it is a technique to trick you into thinking it is not a mass mail >_<
 
2:33 PM
why do I suddenly have the privilege to read edit history now, is it a chat wide change or am I ignorant of something?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You know, C/CPP/Csharp
 
holy crap.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah I just caught that. I'll just proceed and (a) remove my reply (b) ignore the friendly confused soul
 
2:36 PM
OMG
> Update: ~4-5ms / frame
how. the. fuck.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Of course.
 
WOW
I got bonus cash
I thought interns are not on ECBP
dances
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh wait! Maybe this Holy Trinity guy needs a reading comprehension course!?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not a problem, send it back.
 
> I see very different things. I see intolerance. A dev who doesn't want to have to filter and selectively apply tools
^ He might have thought I meant him. Suits his snap judgement style alright
 
2:39 PM
@MartinJames :D (that was ~1/4 of my normal wage)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Whoa! Call beer immediate.
 
Also. #hisloss is a depressing hashtag
@BartekBanachewicz yearly or monthly wage
 
@sehe it's given in days, and it was like 10 or something
 
So, monthly. Ok
 
2:43 PM
Also, that "mommy I don't like boost" page seems to be making the rounds on Twitter.
 
Twitarded
 
fuck yeah cash.
I am not even mad at myself that I went and ate a steak for 6x of the price of my normal dinner on the weekend
 
hahaha :)
 
it was bloody and it was bloody good
 
What a rebel.
 
2:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz would've been a waste of cow if it wasn't
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes He has points. But he completely misses the big picture, IMO
@R.MartinhoFernandes so apt
that's a novel idea.
Copy-on-write meat. All you can eat!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Proper way to cook a steak: have them bring it to the table raw, and wave it over the candle twice, then flip it over and do the same on the other side. Oh, and when you're done, be sure to light the candle -- makes a nice ambiance.
 
god, people still really use gcc 3

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17861335/why-user-space-atomic-t-in-gcc3-4-5-doesnt-work
 
2:49 PM
@JerryCoffin lol
@bamboon under cygwin, no doubt
 
@JerryCoffin how about biting a cow
 
Indeed we have strong views.
On inane non-questions.
Invitations to flame wars.
Boring C topics.
Whatnot, really
 
@JerryCoffin We used to go hunting with this guy whose meat "grilling" process consisted of placing the meat on the grill, counting to five, turning it over, counting to five, and putting it on the plate.
Just crazy.
 
. shit that guy from yesterday was right; i'm becoming the new bin king. orz
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Their skin is thick and tough.
 
2:50 PM
@bamboon I've seen questions about 2.95 :/
 
that's true ... poor teeth >_<
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How bad was he at counting? Or did he count decending from 6000?
 
@sehe it was a bad way of asking have any of you find an implementation in which different values of time_t were still 'the same' using the equality operator
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf std::chrono
 
2:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes jesus, these poor guys
 
@sehe No, he really ate that thing almost raw.
 
a bird eating a sheep alive
 
@sehe not in pre c++11 comparing time_t's
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf time_t is a number.
 
2:52 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf /care
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes standard defines it as an arithmetic type but does not give any guarantees
 
Look up "arithmetic type".
 
I must be a hypocrite, I love fresh meat, but I hate killing animals. I even feed wildlife constantly for a long time.
 
It's not a wishy washy thing; it's very well-defined.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf "defines it as an arithmetic type" is "guarantees"
 
2:53 PM
I won't even kill a spider
 
@JerryCoffin haha
 
this argument:

> No, because there is no requirement that the values of time_t vary
> directly with time. According to ANSI C, time_t is simply an arithmetic
> type capable of representing time; no other required properties of the
> representation are stated.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes only the very thin layer should be cooked. inside is perfectly raw
well, you prolly know this
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf The property "arithmetic type" is enough.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf You mean, the clock source might not be monotonic. Fix: use monotonous clock source (google _POSIX_MONOTONIC_CLOCK)
 
2:54 PM
anyway I'd be careful when hunting, the meat should be thoroughly tested :F
 
Different values of time_t are not equal.
Same values of time_t are equal. (wel, actually, they may not be :P)
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 'Gina up and kill that spider!
 
Simple.
If you want to talk about clocks, talk about clocks.
 
@ThePhD why? ... I can't eat it and it is not harming me. It might look disgusting but that doesn't mean it should die.
 
@sehe yeah so my question was what's an example of a non-monotonic clock?
 
2:55 PM
@sehe s/monotonous/monotonic/
 
What's an example of non-monotoxic conversation?
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Most clocks people use.
@EiyrioüvonKauyf One that can be adjusted.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 It's not harming you now, but...
 
sorry* a computer clock that is non monotonic and used
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf The system clock? (It can be adjusted)
It can jump from Thu Jul 25 16:57:38 CEST 2013 to Thu Jul 25 16:57:37 CEST 2013.
 
2:57 PM
Hell, it's adjusted all the time.
 
NTP and shit.
 
I am not big fan of killing things, but I like to joke about roasting neighbourhood birdies since they come and beg for food everyday. But I shall never harm them (occasionally I want to hold them in my hand and feel them though) :x
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Best to leave spiders alone -- they help keep your pest population in check.
 
@JerryCoffin except/especially big ones o_o. there was a 2 inch diameter one once; i ran away from that
 
damn, Excel is an amazing tool
 
2:59 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf And now it's breeding in your closet. Congratulations -- you're dead.
 
@ThePhD no it's ok it was in an institution where i don't work anymore :3
 

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