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Finally dishes done
now my flat is clean enough for @ThePhD's arrival
 
@StackedCrooked I find myself curious as to the test you added at the bottom. confirming aborts work? confirming the process ran?
 
@rightfold Perl is {sh! awkward} with typos
@TonyTheLion He's on a holiday trip
 
@MooingDuck I wanted to prove that the test really tested the test.
 
@StackedCrooked I usually have a std::cout << "pass" at the bottom :D
 
9:06 PM
Which IDE are the most preferred/used in big studios like Id Software or Valve for C++ code? Does anybody know?
 
no need.
Also, we want Modules
 
@rightfold, After finally getting it to link, if you like Perl, you'll love C++.
 
@sehe oh yea. How did I forget that
 
@Derfder Nobody knows. Hi. Who are you?
 
@sehe a noob
 
9:07 PM
@sehe boon
 
By the way @StackedCrooked, you now have a renamed libboost_regex in /usr/tmp. I suck too much to figure out the proper way of doing it.
 
@Derfder O god. A torrap.
@chris bwahahaa
 
papagaj
 
Yeah you got it. Is Derfder your name?
 
9:08 PM
@chris You could use symbolic link.
 
Vcul buc mudry
 
Or simply can add /usr/lib/libboost_regex.so.1.46.1 to the command line.
 
@sehe It's probably "Derpderp" but he misspelled it.
 
@StackedCrooked Didn't think the whole path worked with -l, but I realize I could have just copied or symlinked it and ran it all in one go.
 
@chris If you pass the whole path then you don't need -l or anything. Just the bare pathname.
 
9:10 PM
@StackedCrooked Oh, this is my punishment for growing up with Windows and an IDE.
 
@Derfder Croatic?
 
And it got out of hand.
 
@StackedCrooked what bug could you have with std::min?
 
@MooingDuck the code I posted is wrong
it's unintuitive
std::min and std::max should be swapped
 
9:21 PM
@StackedCrooked I don't see any posted code, but OK
wait dur
 
3 hours ago, by StackedCrooked
(1) std::min(lower_bound, value);
(2) std::max(value, upper_bound);
That's the wrong code.
 
@StackedCrooked I was looking for actual code :/ I failed to consider that those two blurbs could actually contain errors, they were braindead simple
 
@StackedCrooked I don't get it. Problems with NaN? That's the only thing I can think of.
Oh, never mind.
 
@sehe ne-ta?
 
Yes, I do that all the time too. :)
 
9:24 PM
> Ruby is a great language and rails is an amazing framework -- Bucket Bananaswhiz, 2013, Mumble
7
 
@Derfder Sorry, don't follow and no time to think about it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit with std::min(lower_bound, x) I wanted to get x, unless x is smaller than the lower_bound, in which case I want the lower_bound.
However, in that case I should use std::max. That's the error.
 
@StackedCrooked why was that starred?
 
@StackedCrooked I always mix up my min and max even if I know I will.
 
But "min" sounds like "minstens" in dutch.
 
9:25 PM
@ThePhD I've never said that. It's just your imagination
 
<3
 
@StackedCrooked s/d//
 
@sehe I always write if (x<min) x=min;
 
lol
@MooingDuck lately I resorted to that because I just kept getting it wrong.
 
Some nice flats around London that aren't too expensive
 
9:25 PM
@StackedCrooked Probably the reason
 
I'm excited!!
 
@ThePhD Also I'm drunk
 
WHAT???
 
@sehe what
 
9:26 PM
Tony sounds sexy enough to be a girl.
I'd believe it.
 
ahahahahahah
 
@ThePhD You'll know in a bit
 
you're missing a lot on mumble ATM really
 
Now do I LOOK sexy enough to be a girl?
 
@sehe inb4 Cicada
 
9:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz cough
 
@TonyTheLion Too furry for my tastes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I miss the bug :/
 
Yea
Want bug back!!1
 
@MooingDuck I do too
 
9:29 PM
@MooingDuck Revive it from source control
3
 
@sehe lolololol
 
@Mike What's this? Another brony?
 
that name is offensive to my people
we prefer "bestiality enthusiasts"
2
 
... Wat.
 
9:33 PM
I'm afraid we're not talking about the same fandoms then.
 
my struct alignment answer is now my most upvoted answer. I feel proud of myself, though I can't really think of a good reason why
 
@ponymonmastr @rightfold can't help but noticing it looks very much like she ripped the testicles off of some unfortunate pony
 
@Mike what
@sehe what
The thing I didn't say about Ruby has 4 stars what
 
@BartekBanachewicz check what it was in reply to
 
9:37 PM
@sehe aight
 
Good afternoon room
 
@StackedCrooked if you used lambdas to implement lambda, pff
 
@StackedCrooked Yup. It's just template expressions
@RolandSams Evening
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
hey, anyone have a good place to learn about camel case?
 
"I've implemented x using x therefore x is simple"
 
Xeo
9:39 PM
@StackedCrooked The problem comes with composition
 
@RolandSams lol.
 
@RolandSams what
 
 
@BartekBanachewicz Its a naming convention
 
that's way too much "what" in a short period of time
 
Xeo
9:39 PM
From there, it becomes complicated with expression trees, different argument positions and stuff
 
@RolandSams I know what it is
 
@BartekBanachewicz Agree
 
Xeo
@RolandSams ...
 
@sehe I'm drunk.
 
Xeo
What is there to "learn" about camel case?
 
9:40 PM
Trolololol.
@CatPlusPlus VODKA ALERT VODKA ALERT
There's Vodka on Mumble!
 
@RolandSams Theres nothing to learn about camel case
 
well does variableOne work for class names, function names, object names, variable names, everything?
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Eh, as if Cat would talk
 
@RolandSams Try it
 
@sehe sehe so fun
 
@ThePhD you damn stalker creep
@sehe , you mean
 
I am not a stalker. D:
 
I was just muted on Mumble and so I was saying things like "I want to eat a giant dick"
 
Xeo
If anybody's a stalker, it's @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
9:43 PM
@ThePhD and your code is not opensource
 
But it never got through. D:
 
@ThePhD But! Is there vodka on the dark side of the moon?
 
@Xeo where what?
 
@StackedCrooked could use std::equal_to<> with std::tr1::bind (wouldn't be as flexible, though)
 
Xeo
9:44 PM
@StackedCrooked That's... not really anything to do with currying now, eh?
 
@StackedCrooked good job
 
@Xeo isn't it?
 
Xeo
It's a lambda, kind of
Currying a way of changing how a function is invoked
 
a == b and binding one of the arguments
 
@Xeo He has a functor that is "like" a curried version of the nonexistent binary "equals"
 
Xeo
9:45 PM
Currying != partial application
 
What is the difference?
 
Xeo
partial application is when you, in C++ terminology, bind certain arguments to some parameters, and leave the others to be supplied later
 
iirc that's currying
> Currying and partial function application are often conflated
Alright.
Of course I'm wrong in discussions like this.
 
Xeo
Currying is when you change a function int f(int a, int b, int c){ return a + b +c } into function<std::function<int(int)>(int, int)> f(int a){ return [a](int b){ return [a,b](int c){ return a + b + c; }; };
The first form is invoked as f(a, b, c), while the second one looks like f(a)(b)(c)
Currying makes partial application (from the left) really easy, but they're different things
 
Ah, I see. Currying doesn't require you to bind an actual value or object.
 
Xeo
9:48 PM
Yes, it only changes how a function is invoked and what it returns.
 
Currying seems like meta-partial-application :D
 
Dat pun
@StackedCrooked I feel your pain
 
@Xeo I wish we could have both of those in C++
 
Xeo
Partial application is std::bind
and currying is hard to do because of overloading and now variadic templates.
 
@StackedCrooked Now you're talking
 
9:50 PM
auto meta template wankery
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Eh, I don't see that
 
Really, the only thing C++ is missing is name-based template metawankery
 
Xeo
Nothing is partially applied, not even at the meta-level
 
The only proper comeback.
Mint chocolate is proper rape
 
Xeo
2 mins ago, by Xeo
Currying makes partial application (from the left) really easy, but they're different things
^ being the reason currying and partial application often get confused.
 
9:51 PM
@ThePhD and CamelCase
 
I need to render text into a texture.
 
@Xeo meta-meta-partial-application?
 
Xeo
...
 
Or rather, render text into a block of memory.
 
Xeo
Can we get the partial application out of this? :P
 
9:52 PM
@Xeo meta partial currying?
 
Xeo
@sehe I'd rather properly teach him.
 
Peta-martial is the ISO unit of Indian curry
 
Xeo
@ThePhD You don't make sense.
 
@Xeo You do that to me, Xeo-kun~~
 
@sehe what... indian curry
 
9:55 PM
What country makes them?
 
Xeo
 
=[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'M SORRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYY
 
@Xeo oh you're ignoring ThePhd too, it feels comforting
 
@ThePhD it's ok :3
 
9:56 PM
I'm ignoring nobody.
 
Xeo
@sehe Fanael and refp too? That's kinda surprising.
 
So technically I way more tolerant than you.
 
@sehe you know @Pawnguy7 isn't really that bad
 
@EtiennedeMartel q_q what do I dooo?
 
@Xeo Fanael likes to be a dick, and refp said weird things too
 
9:57 PM
@sehe My ignore list is twice as long if not longer
 
If Xeo-kun is ignoring me my reason for existence is horrible. ;~;
 
@Xeo Not really. They had a way of being very very noisy and unconstructive. Gets in the way of my chillaxing.
 
@ThePhD cowboy casts and stuff
 
@BartekBanachewicz We all like to be penises.
 
@ThePhD I'm still here
 
Xeo
9:57 PM
@BartekBanachewicz (I'm just teasing him. But don't tell him.)
 
@Xeo ok, I won't.
@EtiennedeMartel I want to be nice to everyone, I am just usually misunderstood
but you probably know that
 
@BartekBanachewicz refp is always out to troll. Fanael just... on occasion. They have a way of evoking high-energy collisions that I don't handle very well. So it's best if I delay the input signal (I still "show posts" when I think I'm missing stuff) /cc @Xeo
 
Anybody like to fill me in on what I am bad about?
 
You used to be on my plonk list, then you started behaving.
 
@sehe I've learned to put up a defensive shield on whatever Fanael says to me
@Pawnguy7 you tend to ask random dumb questions time to time
 
9:59 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I've never had trouble with Fanael, but I don't speak to him much
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Carpe diem. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
 
@TonyTheLion Me neither. Just somewhere this week.
 
meh; ok adios i can't bill anymore hours for today :3
 
@BartekBanachewicz fair enough :D
 
Xeo
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Knowledge is power - France is bacon. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
@EtiennedeMartel Sorry, ^ that just came to mind
 
10:00 PM
Much better. And "DAT PUN"
 
Tss tsss.
 
Sir Francis Bacon, 1st Viscount St. Alban, Kt., KC (22 January 15619 April 1626) was an English philosopher, statesman, scientist, jurist, orator and author. He served both as Attorney General and Lord Chancellor of England. After his death, he remained extremely influential through his works, especially as philosophical advocate and practitioner of the scientific method during the scientific revolution. Bacon has been called the creator of empiricism. His works established and popularized inductive methodologies for scientific inquiry, often called the Baconian method, or simply the sc...
 
Night owl
 
@Pawnguy7 how's your project going
 
10:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz screensaver?
 
@Pawnguy7 is there anything else?
 
hello
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hopefully they focus more on adventures and shit
 
@Mike Unlikely to happen. It's Hasbro after all.
 
The scififantasy feel has dwindled
 
10:05 PM
What feel?
FIM has always been about the characters more than the setting anyway.
 
@BartekBanachewicz come to think of it, I guess just in my head. Anyway, nothing new, really. Working on a boat in the ocean, but it is kind of ugly.
I was also considering looking for the lake smoothing bug again. Or making the moon.
 
lol, there's a rollback war on the croissants question.
 
@Pawnguy7 Are those things penises? In the water, I mean.
 
@EtiennedeMartel fish.
I was also considering glowing seaweed (?) on the bottom, but I don't think I have enough room.
 
10:22 PM
@Pawnguy7 best abstract computer graphics I have seen in years
Oo those are fish, I thought they were missiles heading towards each other
 
@StackedCrooked Yes, I got it.
@MooingDuck cos "Test abortion"?
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 torpedoes?
 
@Ell let me know if you compile GLDR or not; I know this code sucks and I can perhaps assist you with that. Considering cosh wasn't even able to get a context...
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Will do :)
 
10:30 PM
@Pawnguy7 meh, looks nice
what the fuck
G-truc talking about weird shit I don't understand on Twitter
@WojciechM @bananu7 Actually the one problem could be to have one rasterizer per CU! Consider that the primitive should be sorted upfront..
 
@BartekBanachewicz the white is uneven, and it bugs me. Though I suppose casting to a float and grabbing the ceiling might fix it.
 
@Pawnguy7 meh, details
 
@BartekBanachewicz Haha. Also, like the pipes as is, or would slanted be better?
 
@bananu7 @WojciechM Yet, I am not sure how you have been broad to that conversation which it really not about DSA. \o/
I have no idea either, Christoph.
@Pawnguy7 it's generation, thus not part of rendering. I'm interested in rendering
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I just can't link xlib/x11/whatever library I need atm xD
 
10:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz well, in that case, the bug is still there, and someday I need to make it scroll smoothly.
 
Ell
ahh I need Xrandr I think
 
@Ell -lXrandr totally
and -lX something IIRC
 
1
Q: unsiged char c = 255 is "11111111" or not?

Lidong GuoHere is my problem code: #include "stdio.h" int main() { char a = -1; unsigned char b = 255; unsigned char c = 0; if((~a) == c) printf("OK 1"); else printf("bad 1"); printf("\n"); if((~b) == c) ...

 
@EtiennedeMartel that's pretty weird
~255u should be 0 indeed
 
Promotion and shit.
 
10:39 PM
Also SIGGRAPH 2013 just ended
 
Ell
 
Always forget about promotions.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes fuck C++ forever.
@Ell :3
that's it!
that's my beautiful hardcoded hex texture
 
whistles
 
Ell
10:40 PM
Heh
Anyway, I'm off to bed. No more coding, only chatting!
 
@thecoshman was trying to do that for like a week
you suck, pirate. Ell took like a 15 minutes
 
'trying' makes it sound like I have been working on it o_0
 
@BartekBanachewicz Don't you dare thrash talk the pirate
 
@ell link me to code will ya
 
@EtiennedeMartel He couldn't run my perfect code
 
10:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's your code, so I doubt it's perfect.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not ThePhD
I actually write good code, sometimes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz 'couldn not' is very different from 'did not'
 
Except that I can't C++, obviously.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, so in the world it's either "Bartek level" or "ThePhD level" with nothing in between, above or below these two mounds of mediocrity.
 
@thecoshman that's even worse
@EtiennedeMartel there's also and Boost level
 
10:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz AKA "organically grown shit" and "overengineered almost shit"?
 
@EtiennedeMartel pretty much, yeah
 
(I'm being overly negative. Boost isn't bad. Just outdated.)
 
my code was working, upgrade to glload 0.5.0, code not working. I think the way you use glload must have subtly changed from 0.4.4, as both @ell and @BartekBanachewicz started on 0.5.0 with a clean base line
 
I just call glload::LoadFunctions() vOv
 
Ell
Pirate, do you have a window before you call glload::LoadFunctions?
 
10:45 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Does that load the functions?
 
Ell
Also sorry I'm in bed, can't link code today :( but I will tomorrow if you like
 
@Ell yes
 
@EtiennedeMartel I am trapped in a Twitter conversation help
 
Ell
If you give me my own branch on gldr it could be useful. I'm just extremely wary of doing something wrong
 
@WojciechM @bananu7 Yes but would that be linear scaling? Tiled base GPUs do have multiple rasterizer, on per tile.
@Ell gimme sec.
 
10:46 PM
@Ell please do
 
@BartekBanachewicz Drop it.
It's not like anything's forcing you to reply.
 
@Ell you can fork repo o_0
 
The measure of the greatness of a society is found in the way it treats those most in need, those who have nothing apart from their poverty.
 
Ell
I did that once, I don't k ow how to fast forward a fork though >.<
 
@Ell I think you need to PR the original to the fork...
 
10:48 PM
@Ell done
 
Ell
That is a bad measure of greatness imho
 
@EtiennedeMartel but my iPad and phone are constantly pinging :/
WHAT THE FUCK are they talking about
 
@BartekBanachewicz Disable notifications.
 
@WojciechM @bananu7 A tile a much better than cacheable, it's LDSable / registerable. That's a magnitude of higher perf at least.
 
@Ell How come?
 
10:49 PM
I have long lost the idea
 
@Ell not really, any code that is PR'ed into the main GLDR repo will have your name on it via the commit message, as if you committed to the GLDR directly
 
Ell
Because greatness is about achieving great, amazing things like New technologies or discoveries.
 
There really is no need to be added to the group, but it's done now I guess ¬_¬
 
Ell
Although having said that, solving poverty would be a greatly impressive thing
 
@thecoshman he's a contributor; he can push, but doesn't have admin rights (for the good of the project & you're not really contributing lately)
 
Ell
10:50 PM
I change my mind, I agree with it, but its not only how they treat poverty
@bartek can I merge into the master branch?
 
@Ell aye, but we have a rule that at least two people must see what goes in the master
 
@Ell yes, you technically can. No, you can not actually do that.
 
Ell
I'll be honest, I feel uncomfortable having that much power :P how does Forking work?
It's the same isn't it? I submit a pull request?
 
You stab it in the eyes and they bleed out.
 
@Ell you make fork, commit to that (on master if you like) make PR to pull changes to the gldrorg's repo
 
10:53 PM
@Ell yep
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's funny how <s>christian</s> republican party still hasn't figured that out in the US
 
Ell
And then what about when the main gldr changes?
 
@Ell you have to merge somehow.
 
@Chemistpp Nothing to do with Christianity.
The real problem is that republicans are just a front for various corporate interests.
 
either by replaying master on your branch, or forcefully requesting master to merge with your changes
 
10:54 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Agreed. But it's a principle of christianity, and our republicans aren't willing to help them out
 
(even more so than the democrats)
 
@ell this here is my X11 window code. Like I said, worked with 0.4.4, upgraded to 0.5.0, made few changes for things like names of functions/varaibles. Now I get a seg fault when it tries to load one of the GLX functions.
 
@EtiennedeMartel and they use religion as a tool to get votes from the sheep
 
What boggles my mind is that they're not even trying to hide it, and people still vote for them.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You don't even have to fking live with them
wait, well, maybe you do
 
10:55 PM
I guess the American education system really sucks.
 
I assume 80% of you are from england
for some reason
or europe in general
 
I'm Canadian.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Fuck, I'm about to be
 
Actually... only like one regular here is English and live in England
maybe half dozen who are either English or live in Enfland
 
@thecoshman you're missing a "D"
 
10:56 PM
Most regulars are European, though.
 
I'm a North Pole vOv
 
@thecoshman Oh. okay, well I assume sehe is an indian and bartek is a limey ;)
 
@melak47 o_0 where?
@Chemistpp wrong, wrong
 
@thecoshman in the beginning. make it a D X11 window, and it will work! :p
 
@Chemistpp sehe is Dutch.
 
10:57 PM
@thecoshman hahaha. guessing nationality by text is tough
 
@melak47 what line
@Chemistpp it's stupid really.
 
@thecoshman err :p
 
@Chemistpp That's usually based on stereotypes, and those suck.
 
Anyway, yes, it's not that the education system sucks, well it does for poor people, it's just that ignorance, and the right to be, are excessively exercised here
 
@Chemistpp Well, Canada isn't that better. I mean, we did elect Stephen Harper.
 
10:58 PM
@Chemistpp 'here' this chat room or 'here' the country you are in?
 
@thecoshman He's talking about the US, because Americans can't stop talking about the US.
 
Parents complain when schools offer yoga class as part of gym class because it will make their kids challenge their religion
 
@melak47 oooh, you're taking the piss
@EtiennedeMartel well, it is the world
 
@thecoshman country
 
@thecoshman I'm sorry :(
 
10:59 PM
any way, I'm heading to bed
 
Ell
I don't See why stereotypes are unreasonable, they are often true, or else they wouldnt be stereotypes?
 
@Ell if you find the mistake, please let me know
 

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