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3:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz We'd bring our own meat. We would probably starve if we were hunting for food.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf If you really don't want one around, invert a glass/cup/bowl over it, slip paper under, carry it outside away from the house, and set it free there.
 
Smash all spiders.
 
@ThePhD that happened to me ... in my bedroom right before the last exam for my Higher School Certificate/university entrance exam
I had ceiling covered by baby spiders
 
@BartekBanachewicz Though this afternoon when my colleagues had been spending >10 minutes doing some analysis on a sheet, I asked them to mail it to me. In 30s I had their answer in CLI, using just sort ... | uniq.
(In fairness I did it in Excel too. I don't know what the hell they had been trying instead)
@BartekBanachewicz Soooo. Wanna tell us what you did?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Anyway, it's safe enough if you freeze it first and then cook it well (that way you get a broader spectrum of nasty-microorganism-killing temperatures).
 
3:01 PM
@sehe I've added a column of data inside the sets, and the graphs automagically expanded
 
@JerryCoffin it was 2 inches in diameter; i'm not going close; encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/…
 
> cook it well
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, those things are ok
 
@BartekBanachewicz What about it?
 
@BartekBanachewicz you can use excel for graphics rendering too :3. coolest excel hack i've seen
 
3:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes raw meat in steak is kinda an opposite of cooking well, no?
@EiyrioüvonKauyf I prefer OpenGL, TYVM
 
Go back to reddit. Why is the PHP room too boring for you?
 
PHP is dead (relative)
like Functional (the room)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why would you want raw meat? (the meat that guy would "grill" like that was cow meat that we brought, not the game we hunted)
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Most large spiders are quite safe. The biggest I've seen (close to 8 inches, give or take) were "orb" spiders that are quite harmless. I'll admit, they're pretty scary looking/seeming, but really nothing to fear.
 
FWIW, we go out and keep an eye on the health of rabbit populations during the off-season. We even go as far as vaccinating them. They would be long gone from our woods were it not for hunters.
 
3:05 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh! you're right!
 
@JerryCoffin 2 inches diameter body ; not including legs; it was big. anything bigger than my? palm ...... is bad
 
I'm bigger than a palm!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes raw steak tastes awesome
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but are you bigger than your palm?
 
@BartekBanachewicz You're just a disgusting savage.
 
3:07 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Liar! Palm trees grow up to 70 meters tall. You're hardly over 60 meters.
2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the British would be appalled (with him)
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Palmtop Robot
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Why?
 
2 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@BartekBanachewicz You're just a disgusting savage.
 
3:09 PM
Because he's a savage and savages are not gentlemen.
 
the robot is not British.
so far as I am aware, there are only two British people in this chat right now and neither seem appalled
 
That's why he said "the British" and not "you" (as in "me").
 
You're not British enough.
 
Jun 29 '12 at 8:11, by thecoshman
The only place on the internet where people are pedantic about being pedantic
 
right, but what the fuck does raw or rare steak have to do with offending British people?
 
3:11 PM
FFS
 
@DeadMG Being a savage does.
 
You're giving this way too much thought.
 
@Xeo add FFS to the acronym list
 
=COUNTIF(B4:F4, "Pass") AND (H4 = "Fail") should work for conditional formatting, no?
 
Excel?
AND is a function.
 
3:13 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but eating raw/rare steak doesn't make you a savage. It's not like he's Welsh.
 
Raw steak in Britain, as far as I can tell, is like, not-common.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf At that size, there are really only a few choices. If you're near (within 100 miles or so) of Sydney Australia, it could be a funnel web spider, which really is quite dangerous. That's basically the only big spider that's generally dangerous to people (though, like bee stings, almost any can be dangerous if you happen to be allergic).
 
They like to well-done their steak here.
 
I am incapable of finding patch PHSS_43498 on the HP web site.
And I cannot find it even on their FTP.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes damn
 
3:14 PM
Is it them or is it me?
 
@JerryCoffin i don't know what it is was / this was a neutron facility so I don't want to be near radioactive spiders. therefore I run fast walk the opposite way. in this case i watched it meander off somewhere else from 30 feet away
I'm ok not being spiderman
 
Anyone follow that workflow chart?
 
No, it's a mess.
Whichever person created it should be fired.
 
3:18 PM
@rubenvb there was no need for that... really; the department that felt the need for this has issues
 
@DeadMG Ready for Saturday? :D
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf ???
 
@rubenvb You should have seen the awful indent bug I found.
Much worse than that one.
 
@rubenvb pf, as many projects as many workflows
 
But a lot easier to fix
 
3:20 PM
@Rapptz oh yeah, I noticed that not working at all for aligning function arguments on a new line. Has it been fixed?
 
@Rapptz are you on rep-spree lately?
 
@bamboon Sorta.
 
@ThePhD You mean, "Did I prepare for ritual suicide after my encounter with a pair of horrors to drive Cthulu to madness?"
 
@rubenvb Looks way too messy. What is it for?
 
Hello, World!
 
3:21 PM
3 mins ago, by rubenvb
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-1868
 
@MonadNewb Hello program
 
@DeadMG Are you getting murdered by a bed?
 
Jul 15 at 3:09, by Rapptz
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-9199
I found it. What the bug doesn't mention is that it applies to template parameters too.
 
@A.H. Hello, Wetware!
 
@rubenvb What's the relationship between that and initializer lists?
 
3:22 PM
@rubenvb Only 6 states and at least two of them are sort of obvious.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes @EtiennedeMartel "The technology behind UE4 elemental demo"(Should I stop already?)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I should pray for such a quick and fortunate death after meeting Tony and ThePhD
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ugh "braced-init-list".
uniform initialization
 
@rubenvb No. Nobody on earth does. They may claim to, but really don't.
 
whatever
 
3:23 PM
Aww cmon, Tony sounds like a really nice guy. :c
 
@rubenvb Sorry, I meant, between the diagram and initializer lists.
@ThePhD He's an ass.
He has other body parts too.
 
@ThePhD He is.
 
@JerryCoffin my coworker found a small spider; she kept it under a cup and took it 3 blocks away from our building so it wouldn't come back; did i mention we're on the 6th floor
This is also the first bug report I've filed here hehe
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a bug report. That was the workflow diagram.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm glad to know how you think about me.
 
3:25 PM
@TonyTheLion "he's" can be a contraction of "he has". See following message.
 
Most Vexing Parsing, English Style.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
I've never heard of someone use he's as a contraction of "he has" though, well vocally.
see it a lot on paper though, which is weird.
i.e. "he's never met you" (written) => "he has never met you" (vocally)
Must be a local thing.
 
@Rapptz I do it all the time.
 
@Rapptz Me neither. I find it rather rare, but won't let that stand in the way of humour.
 
3:28 PM
-6
Q: Sharp C ++ unexpected

RakimGot a question for all : I_Just_want_to_know if (everyone_is_fine()); { Continue; } Else { TakeCare(); } It looks like my post is mostly code, so please add some details.

lol
 
sharp c++ ?
 
@A.H. Looks pretty dull to me.
 
lol
 
> Games Project Manager
in Gdańsk :D
in a company I was supposed to work in :D
too bad I don't see myself as a manager
 
3:31 PM
Be a manager
 
Xeo
> I... You... what – Nbr44 5 mins ago
Sums up my feelings.
 
And then insert yourself into the codebase.
 
it got deleted :(
 
Your MOM got deleted!
 
3:33 PM
@ThePhD Is that a double entendre?
Wait, why did I get that doubt.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, a direct statement: "Fuck the codebase."
 
I wish there was a hotline to call when you have no idea why your code does something
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes after reading this paper, it seems that actually UE4 is the super special secret stuff I suspected
and they have based their work on NVidia research
damn, how could I miss that earlier.
 
1-800-BAD-CODE?
8
 
@A.H. I'd guess it does something because you compiled and ran it. Avoid those, and it won't do much of anything.
 
3:36 PM
damn compilers
 
So I have this: club_books.map { |cb| b = cb.book.as_json; b[:AddedAt] = cb.created_at; b } and guess what the result is (as_json returns a mapping).
 
undefined
NaN!
Always a good guess when it comes to JS.
 
That's Ruby.
Anyway, no, it's actually #<Class:0x9ebe858>: index 203965 out of string
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh, right.
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
index 62381 out of string if you change :AddedAt to :A.
 
3:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus A cat that's out of string...what a sad day.
 
@CatPlusPlus The result is a mess so unreadable, some can't even figure out what language it's written in.
 
@CatPlusPlus Wait, does it return that or throw that?
 
Throw.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'll buy you a new ball of yarn if that will help ;-)
 
3:39 PM
@CatPlusPlus Impressive.
 
@MonadNewb He needs more than a ball of yarn
 
@CatPlusPlus that's ruby, what would you expect
 
@MonadNewb Yes, you're very funny, these jokes haven't gotten old 2 years ago.
 
@TonyTheLion well, it'd be a start
@CatPlusPlus I'm catching up ;-)
 
@BartekBanachewicz It works outside of map. :v:
Fuck Ruby forever. Fucking piece of shit.
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3:40 PM
48 secs ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@CatPlusPlus that's ruby, what would you expect
 
@CatPlusPlus I am going to start learning ruby soon
 
@CatPlusPlus *pretty fucking piece of shit
 
Don't
 
@A.H. RoR :3.. which I know nothing about
 
That explains your lack of disgust.
 
3:41 PM
yeah I am gonna look into that too
 
at least then I can bash on it
 
so many cubes *.*
 
What's funny is that it seems to treat that returned Hash as a frozen string.
For no reason at all.
 
@BartekBanachewicz nice
 
3:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz whats that?
 
We should start a franchise that deletes code
that would make us happy
 
@A.H. showcase of voxel renderer
 
@A.H. A six-faced polyhedron where each face is a square.
 
which, as it turns out, was a PhD thesis
 
Cat could be the masturdeletor.
 
3:43 PM
@TonyTheLion start with java please
 
FUCK why my uni won't allow me work on research like that?
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Gladly would I remove Java from this world
 
what about php?
 
I'd like to participate in a project like that so much... yet everything I hear there is that individuality is bad, asking questions is bad...
 
3:44 PM
<rant explosion>
 
@BartekBanachewicz sounds like the army
 
Okay.
I should go out.
 
@BartekBanachewicz sounds like a terrible uni
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf or a fucking post-communist retarded country
 
Bye.
 
3:44 PM
@A.H. indeed
 
I need to find an expensive souvenir to take back to my family.
As a peace offering.
 
Xeo
@A.H. "terrible" is redundant.
 
lol
 
@ThePhD You can take me, I'm expensive :P
 
@TonyTheLion Are there good trinkets where you are or around BathSpa?
 
3:45 PM
but hey, their work is totally amazing
 
@TonyTheLion Ahhh, Tony-kun, temptation is bad~~
 
@ThePhD I'm sure we can find something. Bath is a nice town
 
Ahahaha it gets better. There are 3 child records there, but map for some inexplicable reason maps over 4. So one of those records is literally "null".
 
if I can't make my research under the uni, I will do it on my own
fuck if I need them for anything
 
And yes, it's a string that says "null".
 
3:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
Okay, I'll save my money for Bath then.
 
@BartekBanachewicz well if it makes you feel any better when my uni decided to give us a taste of C they taught us C in C++
 
that's not surprising at all
 
@ThePhD Mmm. Giving me ideas. What's the weather like, @Tony?
 
@BartekBanachewicz how is Moscow Uni btw... not that's not in Poland but have you heard anything about it?
 
3:46 PM
I was like hey professor this isn't C this is the worst possible code you can write in C++
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf nope, but it's probably terrible
@A.H. and he was like...?
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf ....
 
something something Dev C++ forces us to use C++
I decided not to ask why he is using dev c++
 
He wants to stay with C, because he graduated in 1975?
 
but to be fair he is a Java guy
 
3:48 PM
Oh, he's Indonesian?
 
Dat jump.
Youthful exuberance!
It'll wane
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ha ha ha
@A.H. it's amazing how much retardness one can pack in one short sentence
Oh FFS his thesis is in French! :/ Oh wait maybe not. Phew okay only the title pages are
 
@BartekBanachewicz am I the only one who thinks this sort of stuff should be in ENGLISH
 
@A.H. it is in english alright
 
3:51 PM
@A.H. .. does it really matter?
 
depends on the thesis
 
as long as it's in a romantic language it's ok :3
 
> GigaVoxels: A Voxel-Based Rendering Pipeline For Efficient Exploration Of Large And Detailed Scenes
@EiyrioüvonKauyf what?
 
I was talking to ... the french person .. .about inria a few days ago. the paper is by an inria person i think:: french research institute
> I obtained my Ph.D. degree from Grenoble University at INRIA in France in July 2011.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf waitwhat.
Do you remember his name?
ah ok.
wait do you mean @kbok?
 
3:59 PM
mmm does every code snippet in a SO question have to be directly compilable ?
 
lol french person.
 
huh, just (accidentally) found out I can middle click the 'volume' control in Ubuntu to mute
 
It's weird that people don't use their real names here
 
there's quora for that; i used to have my real name in places; was a bad idea
 
31 minutes ago
klmr open sourced klmr/trna-chip-pipeline
@KonradRudolph !!!
@EiyrioüvonKauyf pfft, he uses his real name proper on github
 
4:01 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I think it's weird that so many people use their real names
 
@BartekBanachewicz internet stalkers yo. Having random people email you is sort of weird
 
@BartekBanachewicz What?
 
@thecoshman I see no reason to participate on SO under fake name
@KonradRudolph you opensourced your shit
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sometimes I do that ;)
it’s just a very simple pipeline
 
@KonradRudolph Can I create a superhuman using it? Or clone myself?
Or gain superpowers?
 
4:02 PM
My shit goes to my customers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's rather normal use an alias for online things, why do people do it in games, forums, chat rooms, hell even IRL people use nick names
 
Did I just post that?
 
seriously; there has to be a better way for opening multiple SE chats besides a bunch of windows T_T
@thecoshman euh I used the same alias for a few things and then put it on my personal website; bad idea
 
@thecoshman SO is not a typical online thing
 
@BartekBanachewicz ’fraid not. You can analyse my ChIP-seq data with it
 
4:04 PM
@KonradRudolph well.
 
@BartekBanachewicz are you interested in the radioactive spider i was talking about with Jerry?
 
should I be?
 
I know C++, C, and C#. But what is CS? — Daniel S. 2 mins ago
This comment's pretty humorous out of context.
 
Oh - there is video footage of that train crash in Spain. Assuming real-time video, it's obvious that the train could not possibly make it round the curve at that speed!
 
@Rapptz CounterStrike ; lots of things to choose from acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/CS
 
4:12 PM
: O
there is no [poll] tag
 
that's a meta-tag, it'd be closed instantly.
 
Because polls are not welcome.
 
user142019
@EiyrioüvonKauyf RoR is horrible.
 
It's probably on the banned list, meaning you cannot even create the tag.
 
user142019
It's worse than CodeIgniter.
 
4:13 PM
sucks for whoever has a poll software problem.
 
me
sucks for me
 
@sehe Currently, its quite warm and sunny.
 
damnit my code sample is neither short nor compilable
 
4:19 PM
0
Q: C++ template variable assignment mayhem

Nick JarvisVector2d.h: #include <iostream> using namespace std; template <typename T, typename U> class Vector2d { T x; U y; public: Vector2d (T X, U Y) { x = X; y = Y; } void printdata() { cout << "X: " << x << " Y: " << y; } }; main.cpp: #incl...

 
@Rapptz looks like a duplicate
 
heheh, templated main.
 
So, my employer just bought a pool table.
 
@Rapptz lol
 
user142019
So, my employer just planned on buying a pool.
 
4:22 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I work just next to ours.
 
mm astyle screws up indentation with for loops :s
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Reminds me, we should get ours to get us an airhockey table
 
@EtiennedeMartel ..unfortunately, the balls, triangle and cues must wait for next years budget :)
 
@MartinJames They've just renovated the floor above us.
 
@EtiennedeMartel If that is where they plan to put the pool table, make sure your desk is not under it.
 
4:28 PM
Wow, the struct alignment answer I wrote yesterday got lots of votes. It's already my third most upvoted answer, and will probably shortly be my second most upvoted.
 
@MartinJames Nah, it's above the cafeteria.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh - food again. Now I gotta go and get stuff to eat.
 
@MooingDuck its a good answer
 
@MooingDuck The bit about private/public etc is inaccurate.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is it?
 
4:31 PM
If there is only data of one accessibility (and a few other requirements), it has to be in order. If there is more than one accessibility used they can all be in any order.
You cited the standard layout rules yourself!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't look up that one!
 
@MooingDuck It's right there.
> — has the same access control (Clause 11) for all non-static data members,
All bets are off in other cases.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well thats just part of the definition for standard layout, that doesn't say members can be rearranged
though you're right it doesn't say they cant be rearranged...
I just.... assumed...
The rules for "layout compatable" are a wierd part of C++
I assume that's for C compatability
 
Xeo
hmm... I guess emulated let-bindings in C++ really aren't going to be pretty :/
 
This again?
 
Xeo
4:40 PM
I won't go on. It's just been on my mind since I played around with it yesterday.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes pos tthis as an answer
 
@MooingDuck I have no idea if your answer is right...but it sounds good ;-)
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck .data() in C++11
 
@Xeo this again?
@Xeo oh
 
@Xeo I believe that returns a const T* in C++11
oh hey! It doesn't!
 
Xeo
4:45 PM
Only for std::string
 
WTF std::string!
 
wtf::string
 
they better fix that in C++14
.... it could cause backwards compatibility issues. :(
hmm
 
vector<char> master race
 
ah fuck, another programmer who was misled into thinking that FILE* is faster than iostreams :/
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Q: size of off_t at compilation time

malatAfter reading numerous report on stackoverflow, I decide to go with FILE* (over std::fstream) to manipulate quickly my binary files. So I am trying to have something like this working (C++): #define _FILE_OFFSET_BITS 64 #include <stdio.h> static inline off_t FTello(FILE *stream) { #if _WIN32 #i...

 
Ell
4:50 PM
I thought it was :3
 
fuck why are LMGTFY links blocked o.O
 
@BartekBanachewicz AHAHAHAH you feel 1% of my pain
 
@KonradRudolph I thought it was too... At least I've seen about 3 questions on SO demonstrating that FILE was faster than iostream.
 
@KonradRudolph it is faster. Just not fast enough to justify the use of C
 
I think they were all closed as "not constructive" because the C++ guys didn't like it. :)
 
4:51 PM
@MooingDuck That is utter nonsense
@Mysticial I’ve seen several which demonstrate that there is no difference (and actually C++ has a slight edge in formatted output, which shouldn’t come as a surprise)
 
@KonradRudolph streams requires at least one virtual call per function. FILE* does not, other than that, they're pretty much identical
 
I always thought std::fstream was a wrapper around FILE*?
 
@Rapptz sometimes, but not always
 
@MooingDuck Virtual function call? Only for localisation, innit?
 
@KonradRudolph no. For each call
 
4:53 PM
ah fuck, nonsense
yes, right
 
@KonradRudolph if you call the equivalent of putc 200 times, you get 200 virtual calls. (And this happens a terrifying amount in real code)
 
overflow, right?
(I never learned C++ streams properly)
 
@KonradRudolph nobody does
@KonradRudolph I don't recall exactly
 
I think I remember Mehrdad asking a question about the FILE vs. stream. But he's also asked like 600+ questions. Hard to dig through.
 
almost everything is inherited from std::basic_ios
 
4:55 PM
I seem to recall that Mehrdad was a pretty annoying fuck
 
I don't like him.
He flammed me for voting to close his question to the point I had to call a mod to clear comments.
 
@KonradRudolph Actually, reading cppreference, sputc isn't virtual, and neither is overflow O.o
 
@Rapptz iirc he links to the source of the example he edited. I usually strip intro and license from spirit documentation samples as well..
No fucks where given that day - twitpic.com/c6gxfr #9gagtweets
@MooingDuck nvi
 
@sehe not familiar with that acronym
 
lol so you guys sometimes get absorbed into one topic
 
4:59 PM
oh wait, there it is, overflow is virtual. cppreference is confusing
 
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Q: Is std::ifstream significantly slower than FILE?

Jesse BederI've been informed that my library is slower than it should be, on the order of 30+ times too slow parsing a particular file (text file, size 326 kb). The user suggested that it may be that I'm using std::ifstream (presumably instead of FILE). I'd rather not blindly rewrite, so I thought I'd che...

 

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