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11:00 PM
It spawns unmaintainable code by tonnes.
 
user142019
Haha Ruby on Rails.
 
user142019
Piece of shit.
 
lolwut
who flagged that?
 
A stupid fanboy who never maintained Rails code in their life, if I had to guess.
 
Ell
I have never
 
11:02 PM
@rightfold Yes it should. Or atleast a warning
 
user142019
Warnings don't exist.
 
user142019
You have an error or not an error, never a warning.
 
Ell
Why?
 
@rightfold +1
 
It is bad design, right?
 
11:04 PM
If you have to ask then probably.
I don't know what you're asking about.
Also your Enter is broken or something.
 
fuuuuuu.
Clang doesn't define the function if I include the Windows headers.
 
"the function"
 
The only function you'll ever need.
 
apparently, it objects strenuously to std::operator|=(std::_Ios_state&, std::_Ios_state&)
 
@Mysticial /me
 
11:08 PM
@CatPlusPlus It feels dirty, just not sure how to fix it. Mostly in the draw() function.
 
But what
 
@CatPlusPlus Not sure what you mean.
 
You're asking about design, but showing implementation.
 
Well.
I have some grids of colored blocks, basically.
I was asking about the scrolling here earlier.
 
@ThePhD: Never, ever update LLVM and Clang.
 
11:09 PM
And I am also trying to add a simple blendy-transition thing.
 
:lol:
 
But the way I am doing it (now passing two worlds instead of one, the return, etc) feels bad.
 
@ThePhD: Live in constant fear!
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Never update LLVM. This kills Wide. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
 
11:11 PM
@CatPlusPlus Why the hatred toward other languages ?
 
because
suckage
 
Because I do have to maintain code using this piece of shit (also again :laffo: at getting emotionally invested in programming tools).
Oh no they say mean things about my hammer that's missing a handle sniff sniff.
 
@HamZa We hate all languages equally, but we hate some more equally than others.
11
 
Just :psyduck:
 
@Mysticial makes sense. But when I came first here, it seemed like @CatPlusPlus prefered C++ above all
 
11:14 PM
Ahahahaha
 
user142019
Hmm.
 
user142019
Wikipedia's editing interface has changed a lot.
 
user142019
WYSIWYG
 
Ruby doesn't even have keyword arguments.
 
11:20 PM
@rightfold you just brought me back to my days of learning HTML
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus It does. :v
 
I'll never understand why nerds are so over it.
@rightfold Right, in the same way PHP has arrays.
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't even code in ruby. Just wondered why all that hatred to the extend to insulting it. Maybe you could make me wiser ?
 
Insulting. Tools.
 
@HamZa It doesn't have feelings, don't worry.
 
11:22 PM
I don't know if I should laugh or feel sorry.
Or cry. Or I don't know.
 
@GManNickG lol
 
user142019
irb(main):001:0> def foo(a, b: 42, **c)
irb(main):002:1>     [a, b, c]
irb(main):003:1> end
=> nil
irb(main):004:0> foo(1)
=> [1, 42, {}]
irb(main):005:0> foo(1, b: 10)
=> [1, 10, {}]
irb(main):006:0> foo(1, b: 10, c: 12, d: 42)
=> [1, 10, {:c=>12, :d=>42}]
 
user142019
@CatPlusPlus Yes, really.
 
user142019
:v
 
Woah. Amazing.
That's 2.0?
 
user142019
11:24 PM
Ruby is Ruby 2.0.0.
 
user142019
Just like C++ is C++11.
 
This project barely works in 1.8.
 
user142019
Haha Ruby 1.8.
 
user142019
Ruby 1.8 doesn't even use YARV.
 
And since this is very resilient technology, I don't even want to imagine what havoc upgrading would cause.
 
11:26 PM
@not-sehe What's going on? Dx
 
user142019
I feel sorry for you.
 
@DeadMG Uh. Why?
 
user142019
Well, not really, but I just want to be kind today.
 
user142019
@not-sehe Live in variable fear!
 
@ThePhD Because the Clang stuff is not supposed to work this way, and frankly, I'm lucky it works at all.
it's, well, very very delicate.
 
11:27 PM
=[
Well, okay.
 
I fixed most of it
but I'm still looking at this bug where if you include the Windows headers, the <string> header stops generating code correctly.
 
user142019
I wonder to what extent libclang exposes information about Objective-C code.
 
Oh fuck. I got away with my holiday at huge expense, Anne: "OK, fine, sod off then, but don't expect me to look after Bailey on my own, put him in the kennels". Flights to/from Canaries, £147. Kennel fees, £204.
 
Ell
Ouch
Couldn't she have gone instead of you?
 
@Ell Possibly, but then I end up with no vacation and (kennel fees ^ Bailey maintenance), plus all bills.
 
11:36 PM
@MartinJames Poor Bailey!
 
user142019
Bailey Jay
 
@DeadMG No problem with kennels - he loves it. Just bills :((
 
user142019
Kernels.
 
So has the puppy ever stayed in a kennel?
 
@rightfold Oh! I'm not having any kernel bills!
 
11:39 PM
no
 
@Mysticial He's middle-aged, and yes, no problem - he loves playing with the other dogs. Gotta find his jab record.
 
just train Bailey to live in the wild and let it into the woods or something before you go, just get one of those tracking chips imo.
 
Oh - THAT puppy :)
 
^^
 
@AaronKyleKilleen He's chipped up, but it's only RFID/close-range.
 
11:42 PM
well then you should have bought a cat instead
 
Ell
How does non realtime os deal with realtime problems
 
in realtime
 
Ell
Like sound playback, you have to play at a particular sampling rate
 
user142019
@MartinJames Don't you have a friend that can keep the dog while you're away?
 
TBH, over 17 nights in Lanzarote, the transport/dog bills are gonna be dwarfed by the beer costs.
 
user142019
11:43 PM
Zero percent battery left.
Two minutes left.
 
pastebin.com/GEsQtFKG which is better in terms of performance and/or memory usage?
 
user142019
@Pawnguy7 They are equal, you fool.
 
@Pawnguy7 Absolutely useless to worry about.
 
@rightfold Hmm... maybe. I have a couple months to find a friend/sucker who might take him :)
 
That was my question.
If they are equal, I favor the more readable variant.
 
11:45 PM
I learned today that in addition to ± there is:


DIVISION TIMES
Unicode: U+22C7
@Pawnguy7 Even if they aren't, favor it anyway.
 
@rightfold Bye! .... You dead yet?
Looks like Zoidberg zeroed out.......
 
Ell
Aww :(
 
@Ell Typically, very badly.
 
@MartinJames Is there no way you can have her come with you afterwards?
And maybe get a return flight back at the same time?
 
@ThePhD Gonna investigate that.
 
11:51 PM
You'd still have to find a place for the dog...
... or maybe you can take the dog with? That's a third ticket or something or other, though.
 
@ThePhD Maybe I'll take him to play with Daisy:) No way taking dog - we get so slaughtered on hols that we'd either let him die or be locked up for neglecting an animal.
 
UGH almost an hour debugging because stupid Rails is using type column internally even if you don't ask it to.
 
@CatPlusPlus Hehe - I post a lot of comments about not using a debugger, but forget about all those times when they cough up misleading info.
 
Well, this is REPL debugging mostly.
 
@MartinJames Any neighbors that wouldn't mind an extra dog?
 
11:58 PM
I doubt Ruby's debugger even works.
 
O3 red-herrings: object pointer shows nil but method call works fine anyway and, in method, 'this' is correct.
@ThePhD Maybe. I gotta ask.
 
Debugging optimised code is so much fun.
 

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