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11:00 AM
I have no irony detector whatsoever.
I rely on hints from fellow people.
 
@AaronKyleKilleen make dollars? are you printing counterfeit money?
 
@not-sehe there's a good joke to be made there about programming languages that don't make sense but are highly profitable
 
@not-sehe Java is well on the way to making war.
 
Shh. Aaron was almost gonna find that joke
 
11:02 AM
Making love not war, then spread AIDS! Your enemy will die in a more painful way
 
For once its not me failing at jokes. Yay!
 
Also: PHP is not funny. But it's a joke.
 
I am not sure how relevant it is but I wanted to post it.
 
what is that animal in the pic: white giraffe? albino zebra? fat unicorn?
 
Boost 1.54.0 released!
 
11:08 AM
Strangely related:
Man leaves Quake 3 bot match running for four years. Things get weird. http://i.imgur.com/dx7sVXj.jpg
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yay? Anything cool in it?
 
New Libraries:
Log: Logging library, from Andrey Semashev.
TTI: Type Traits Introspection library, from Edward Diener.
Type Erasure: Runtime polymorphism based on concepts.
@jalf seems so ^
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 fat unicorn, obviously. Clear-cut case of Boulimia Nervosa
 
user142019
lol
 
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Snowden wants asylum in The Netherlands.
 
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11:09 AM
That's the most foolish thing he can do.
 
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Other than going back to America.
 
Everyone trying to work out where Snowden is can relax! It’s in Wales where it’s always been. #mountainsdontmovemuch
 
@not-sehe wow.
 
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@not-sehe Haha.
 
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11:10 AM
> Steek een middelvinger op naar de United Stupid of America.
 
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lol
 
hmm, logging library, really? Curious how that's turned out
 
Pesonally, I think all this "asylum request here", "granted there" business is a smoke screen
 
@rightfold What are his options? (Also, why is The Netherlands a particularly bad choice?)
 
@jalf With an axe! Indispensible tool while logging
 
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11:11 AM
@jalf Netherlands would directly send him to the USA.
 
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> Krijg eerst maar eens een kleurtje en leer sissen en "ies rasiest" roepen en dan ben je met open armen welkom in NL.
 
[cue: I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay]
 
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LOL
 
@not-sehe you sleep all night and work all day?
Also 8GB of tactical logs for bots o.O
 
It's not autobiographic, silly
@BartekBanachewicz This explains their motionlessness: the AI didn't scale and there was simply not enough processing power to reach any more decisions :)
 
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11:13 AM
@not-sehe MongoAI is web scale and you should use it.
 
@not-sehe then why as soon as he fragged one of them they all picked up weapons and took him out immediately
 
@rightfold I'm pretty sure that if they did grant him asylum, they would find it really hard to do that legally. (They'd end up violating human rights and a lot of EU law). Easier for them to just decline his request for asylum then
 
Am I the only one keep on thinking snowden's wearing google glasses?
 
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> EU law.
 
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Worst thing ever.
 
11:15 AM
Granting asylum to someone and then not honouring it would look pretty bad
 
@AaronKyleKilleen You know, I'm making up shit as I go. I don't even play games.
 
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@not-sehe You play life.
 
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It's a game that you'll always lose.
 
@rightfold conway's game of life maybe
 
@jalf well looks nice to try
 
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11:17 AM
No respawning either.
 
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Except when you're Jesus.
 
Also Type Traits Introspection? What does it mean?
 
@jalf Yeah, it's just FUD. Of course Netherlands would not render him immediately. Yes, FA would consult the US diplomats first.
 
And Concepts? They really look wicked
 
@AaronKyleKilleen pavlov much?
@rightfold You guessed it!
 
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11:18 AM
Haha. I have an exam about Android, Java and Git today.
 
@rightfold Dat combination
 
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We need to know Git commands.
Almost everybody in class uses GitHub for Windows.
 
Course subject "Android, Java and Git" - wut? They toss the dice and assemble a random course of buzzwords, or something?
 
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This is gonna be fun!
 
> This library aims to make logging significantly easier for the application developer.
 
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11:19 AM
@not-sehe We had to use those three this quarter.
 
I will use it in Minicraft
damn can't wait to try
 
... hammer, meet nail
 
Also TOOT I've passed that probabilistics&statistics exam
 
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Fun this is: I don't know shit about Android.
 
Are you sure?
You, know, it just sounds unlikely :/
 
11:20 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Gratz
 
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I almost haven't used it at all.
 
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I got two list activities and switching between them to work.
 
@not-sehe I am. But I still have to retake the practical part.
 
@not-sehe that pun
 
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Then I gave up.
 
11:21 AM
I've given up too
 
It's on friday dammit :/
 
@rightfold How unsurprising
 
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I got graded 0/10 for my lack of Android app. :D
 
Actually iOS development was rather pleasing
 
@not-TonyTheLion What is the "practical part" of probabilistics and statistics anyway?
@BartekBanachewicz Try NDK :)
 
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11:22 AM
@BartekBanachewicz It's not that terrible but people assume it is because APPLE and OBJECTIVE-C.
 
@not-sehe actual calculations. Compared to raw theory.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Ah. So much for "practical" lol
 
@not-sehe Well I wasn't sure how to put it.
 
Statistically speaking...
 
@Bartek Probability and Stats can be pretty tricky, I took this in February and barely passed: beanactuary.org/exams/preliminary/exams/syllabi/…
 
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11:23 AM
But the overall structure of apps in iOS is very simple and logical.
 
@BartekBanachewicz (applied - nevermind, I'm being dense on purpose, don't mind me)
 
@not-sehe ah, yes. I've been missing that word.
 
who needs 'apply' when there's lambdas
 
@rightfold the controllers and Core Data are pretty suprising in a sense they work
 
@not-sehe no XML? :(
 
11:24 AM
@AaronKyleKilleen looks harder than what we had
 
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@BartekBanachewicz Core Data is quite nice except for a bug that makes ordered sets not work at all.
 
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The bugs exists since the introduction of Core Data and they still haven't fixed it AFAIK. :<
 
@Bartek most people said it took them > 200 hours to study for it
 
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View controllers are very neat.
 
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Much better than Android's mess of activities and intents.
 
11:26 AM
@AaronKyleKilleen well I don't have 200 hours. I have until friday to be able to calculate whatever's on the damn exam.
and I will be free.
 
@ScottW What is working?
 
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Still, I prefer writing UI-less software.
 
I am afraid that Boost.Log will be everything but simple
 
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Now you know!
 
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11:29 AM
BOOST_LOG_TRIVIAL(trace) << "A trace severity message";
BOOST_LOG_TRIVIAL(debug) << "A debug severity message";
BOOST_LOG_TRIVIAL(info) << "An informational severity message";
BOOST_LOG_TRIVIAL(warning) << "A warning severity message";
BOOST_LOG_TRIVIAL(error) << "An error severity message";
BOOST_LOG_TRIVIAL(fatal) << "A fatal severity message";
 
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Well, that's quite simple.
 
okey.
I was reading design decisions
 
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> logging::core::get()->set_filter
 
@ScottW "just to play with PHP" :/
 
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Looks like a singleton.
 
11:30 AM
@rightfold true.
 
lol, PHP
 
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Oh well, no Boost library can ever be more complicated than Asio.
 
Asio is annoying
 
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Use Erlang if you want to do I/O.
 
@rightfold ture
 
11:32 AM
@rightfold Meh, crappy levels.
 
@rightfold stop that.
@R.MartinhoFernandes they're customizable, no?
typedef sinks::synchronous_sink< sinks::text_ostream_backend > text_sink;
 
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@BartekBanachewicz erlang:exit(rightfold, kill)
 
@ScottW Flask!
 
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@ScottW Flask!
 
@ScottW Flask!
 
11:34 AM
well TTI looks kinda useless
 
hum hum type erasure
aaa concepts
any<
    mpl::vector<
        copy_constructible<>,
        typeid_<>,
        incrementable<>,
        ostreamable<>
    >
> x(10);
++x;
std::cout << x << std::endl; // prints 11
Sweeeeet.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What?
Strawberry season sucks.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Boost.TypeErasure, new lib in 1.54?
 
11:36 AM
@BartekBanachewicz hmmmmm
 
> The main class in the library is any. An any can store objects that meet whatever requirements we specify. These requirements are passed to any as an MPL sequence.
 
That's an interesting approach
 
template <typename... T>
using better_any = any<mpl::vector<T...>>;
 
Linkin Park - Y U ALBUM TITLES IN ALL CAPS?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes C++11 only obviously
@not-TonyTheLion Tony The Lion - Y U LINKIN PARK?
 
11:39 AM
@BartekBanachewicz ?
 
Just checking out there new album
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes boost is C++03 compatible, no?
 
@BartekBanachewicz And? mpl::vector is "variadic".
 
but yeah, it looks as a nice addition.
 
@ScottW well I'm in the process of finding out if I like it
 
11:40 AM
any can be too.
 
whatever, with that using it looks even more funky
so, are these proper concepts?
BOOST_TYPE_ERASURE_MEMBER((has_push_back), push_back, 1)

void append_many(any<has_push_back<void(int)>, _self&> container) {
    for(int i = 0; i < 10; ++i)
        container.push_back(i);
}
 
lol, how do you know that babe?
 
@BartekBanachewicz This is similar to Haskell's implementation of type classes. It basically amounts to passing an object along with a vtable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is this really usable?
I am not sure how excited I should be.
isn't LP targeted at 13yo emo-wannabe girls?
 
@jalf I bet it's impossible to avoid XML when doing Android programming using Java
 
11:43 AM
xml is ok.
 
@not-sehe Unless you use some other language and compile it to XML, yeah.
 
@ScottW maybe inside of you, there is a 13yo emo-wannabe girl wanting to come out? :p
 
@ScottW are you a wannabe-girl?
 
@ScottW What about the manifest?
 
oic
 
11:45 AM
@BartekBanachewicz lolno
 
@not-TonyTheLion 14yo?
 
I betcha most of their consumers are those who I specified anyway
 
Let me guess: Tony likes LP.
 
inb4 tony-the-pony
 
11:46 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Isn't MLP targeted at 13yo girls?
 
I listened today to this album I told you about, "Space Vampires vs Zombie Dinosaurs in 3D". And man, is it nice.
 
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> 9yo girls and their mothers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 8-10
 
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@ScottW s/ moms/m/
 
@ScottW he's being gross again
 
11:47 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes inside of Tony the puss, there is a 13yo emo-wannabe girl wanting to come out! :p
 
@ScottW I don't think that was a bad album
 
Ha, called it.
 
@ScottW I still like it, I don't listen to it everyday, but when I listen to it, I enjoy it.
What's wrong with that?
 
I can't understand how it can be tagged "alternative" on Last.FM
 
@ScottW I liked it when I was 16-17
 
11:49 AM
That's probably the storm of 13yolds tagging shit "alternative"
 
can't remember exactly
 
What's alternative music? Music Bartek likes?
 
@BartekBanachewicz go to "edit tags", click "genre", select "alternative", click "submit"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do, but "alternative" has rather defined meaning.
System Of A Down is the most recognized Alt-Rock band
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Music To Wear Pants To
 
11:50 AM
@not-sehe I wish it worked like that :P
 
Uhoh, I hope you haven't discovered WP yet
 
@BartekBanachewicz Erm, yeah sure, it has, as long as you ignore what the meanings other people attribute to it.
That is kinda true of most things, actually.
 
omg a guy with a pink webpage
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes congratulations.
 
I always thought those meaningless prefixes were funny "alternative rock", "progressive rock" etc.
 
11:52 AM
@AaronKyleKilleen they are not meaningless at all; I mean they are important information about the music :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think maybe the puppy might feel his monopoly is being violated...
@BartekBanachewicz they serve to mutually confirm a community and it's members, and vice versa, recursively :)
 
But if you can't tell SOAD, Ayreon and Guns and Roses apart, well.
 
@not-sehe LP -> Linkin Park, WP -> Winkin Park? Wankin Park? what?
 
@not-sehe and to actually help to categorize music, which is then helpful in finding music I like? o.O
 
@melak47 WP -> WordPress
 
11:54 AM
@ScottW what?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Except everything under the sun gets tagged as alternative.
 
how is tagging an album being close-minded?
 
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
But if you can't tell SOAD, Ayreon and Guns and Roses apart, well.
 
it's all music - or so they say
 
11:55 AM
@ScottW the fact these genres exist help me discover new music that I like
If not for that I wouldn't be able to find the new bands so easily
because fuckers like you would throw them all in "rock/metal" basket
 
@BartekBanachewicz you could always ask friends/people to share something they like - oh wait they don't have the license/rights to do that :p
 
@ScottW So please find me something close to Ayreon without using "progressive rock" clause.
 
@melak47 I don't care what they like, really. I was talking about finding similar music to what I already like.
@ScottW and look how they magically all are tagged "progressive"
 
@BartekBanachewicz Your friends like crap?
 
11:57 AM
OH NOES DONT SAY THAT ITS A TAG/GENRE YOU CLOSEMINDED FUCK
 
You need better friends!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, why?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes or he has no friends, ONLY US
 
@ScottW maybe because I like ayreon and I want more of something similar
@ScottW then you can recommend anything.
 
@ScottW that's totally mainstream bro, I did that before it was cool
 
ugh.
Great music recommendation : "here's some random shit I like"
really.
 
Erm.
What's bad about that?
 
what else would people ever recommend?
I'm not gonna go recommending some random shit I don't like
 
I discovered some of my favourite bands pretty much like that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes apparently it takes too much :effort:
 
11:59 AM
Jack Johnson was good when he was underground, before he sold out to the corporations
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I stole them from friends and family, usually.
 
ms app verifier was complaining about use of tbb concurent vector inside critical section and killing instrumented exe, now I replaced it with no sync std vector and it doesnt report anything... thank you MS for another jewel :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Oh hey, I've seen you liked last Ayreon album, so maybe check some DT for more heavy sound, or PT for more chilled out songs." /cc @DeadMG
 

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