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8:00 PM
could they actually be worse than Erdogan?
 
@Puppy Dunno. I think they do not want to rule. It is kind of a tradition over there. There is a whole category for that on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Military_coups_in_Turkey :)
In this video a soldier says 'turkish armed forces seizes power, go home, this is not a joke' https://twitter.com/parya12342/status/754037175713460224
Turkish PM confirms coup attempt by some groups wthin army, says it wont allowed to succeed - NTV
Well, it is clear Turkey is not a country I want in EU.
 
Let me guess in advance. The coup is of the secular part of the army trying to thwart islamization of the country.
 
8:19 PM
They surely couldn't win. They're going against allah!
 
@Puppy Its not Google she's bad with, she wants to implement mass surveillance by making ISPs store everyone's browsing history for a year and making that accessible to intelligence agencies and law enforcement
 
yeah that shit is dumb
 
Sadly her "snoopers charter" is already with the House of Lords
 
 
lol
 
8:22 PM
It looks like coups are a national pass time in Turkey.
 
kinda seems to me like they don't actually do a great deal with the coup though
it's not like a coup where the military is the government now and big police state stuff
it's more like a military kick the government in the balls
 
@Puppy Yeah. IIRC, they have long time been the part of society that is secular and watches over the country not to become Islamic.
 
@ScarletAmaranth @Mysticial Re-zero preview looks interesting
 
@StackedCrooked neat!
 
Yeah :D
> Damn Subaru, should have just gone to Reinhard.
Love the reddit comments :P
 
Ven
8:25 PM
that's next episode?
 
@Ven It's a preview for tomorrow's episode.
 
Ven
ah, then not watching it :)
 
Yeah, it's a bit spoilerish.
 
Ven
I agree with the sentiment tho: just go to reinhard, say Rem has had a vision related to the witch's cult, ??, profit
 
^ Subaru should call on this guy :D
 
Ven
8:28 PM
ayy
The Badass™
 
@StackedCrooked Preview?
I'm at work, so I'd rather not pull up YT.
 
@Mysticial It's a 30 second commercial airing on Japanese TV.
@Mysticial Really?
 
I'm a bit behind on the stuff this season. I spent this week chasing down some Anime recommendations from AMW.
 
I'd make sure to wear headphones. But otherwise :P
 
And rewatching GATE.
 
8:31 PM
@Mysticial Wow, rewatching it?
 
Turns out there was a lot of stuff I missed the first time through.
 
I loved that series so much.
 
That show is amazing.
 
Ven
I want to rewatch NGNL, but I'd feel "bad" for not catching up to other series instead...
 
I remember rewatching the first four episodes while waiting for the fifth one to air :D
 
8:32 PM
I mean come on, 21st century military vs. medieval + dragons?
 
Exactly.
 
And all the humorous stuff like the earthquake scene.
"Is this a 4 or a 5? It happens all the time in Japan."
 
Also it was fascinating to see how the role of the army changed over the years. They went from being plunderers to human right protectors.
And then there's gatling guns attached to helicopters.
 
Pina calls them metal Pegasus or something?
 
8:38 PM
Apparently it doesn't end there. The novel keeps going. But the story is pretty well finished in the Anime.
What's her name, the knight with the yellow hair and the military guy, they have a daughter.
 
I know who you mean.
She was so worried about having to "apologize" to Itami.
 
And ends up bitch-slapping him. Epic Pina facepalm scene.
 
I love how they inserted humor into that show at every opportunity they had.
 
@StackedCrooked Bjarne when he was young?
 
8:48 PM
@Borgleader Yeah, Reinhard == pre-c++ Bjarne :D
 
Like when what's her name, bunny girl with orange hair tries to kill Noriko. But she doesn't know how to stab someone without it hurting.
 
Ven
who made this video
"let's use 40% of the screen"
is this channel only composed of nice fights like that?
 
@Ven It's to protect against automated copyright violation detection algorithms.
 
Ven
I see, thanks
 
8:57 PM
It's a pretty bad situation.
 
Ven
I remember something like that for the fanservice-oriented anime with the 7 girls. 7 sins or whatever it was called
 
I once uploaded a anime opening video. I used a randomly generated string for the title. A few hours later I got a mail from Google that my video was taken down and that I may have lost access to some of Youtube's features.
It's a scary thing.
 
Turkey Coup is happening?
World can't relax for a week.
 
Ven
yea
 
@ThePhD I'm new to this. But it seems like the secular Turkish army is the good guy.
 
9:02 PM
I have no idea the political climate in Turkey.
 
> A Jeffco deputy fired at an armed robbery suspect... and ended up shooting a bullet straight down the other gun's barrel and disabling it.
What are the odds
@ThePhD oh god what. I need radio. So I can just listen to the news on background
Yeah. Radio works real nice.
 
Xeo
> The Turkish president Recep Tayyip ErdoÄźan is on holiday and outside the country.
President is asleep, take over the country.
 
@sehe I think we can safely say: "Pretty low".
 
I'm not a fan of Erdogan, in fact I think he's a dinosaur who should really do something else with his time than holding any kind of public office, but damn, this is quite something.
 
9:18 PM
Reinhardt? :P
Anyway time to leave work
 
Anyone here who has used boost before?
 
@AkashAggarwal I've heard of it, but they said it was bad so I never used it.
 
Bad? Why?
@StackedCrooked
 
9:34 PM
I feel bad now.
 
@StackedCrooked about what?
 
About lying to you :P
 
xD
I'm trying to use Socket.IO's CPP library using boost and cmake since last 3 hours but all in vain
 
Boost is actually a good library. However, most of it's killer features have been adopted into C++11. So it's not as important as it used to be.
Still it contains plenty of good stuff like asio, optional, flat_map, etc..
 
I don't see any other way to use this library without boost
@StackedCrooked Can you help me out a bit?
 
9:51 PM
no
 
BADASS PUPPY
 
@StackedCrooked I think that's oft overstated. The vast majority is obviously not in ISO C++
 
can somebody explain to me how people argue that earth is flat while not having any scientific background whatsoever, and insist on making themselves appear as fools?
i seriously can't explain it
 
I can help you out
You just need to accept what they are trying to show of themselves
 
show off what? their scientific illiteracy? or their bland stupidity?
 
10:04 PM
Both
I've figured over the years the stupidest people are the most arrogant
 
We have such people in the lounge
 
no
on youtube
i told him to give me proof
we has 2 times in row stated the truth that earth is flat
he is in scientific coma
he cant argue anything
im pushing him off the cliff
the guy must be trolling
he keeps on saying The Earth is not a spinning globe. in a loop
 
It's on youtube. What did you expect.
 
@ChemiCalChems They are fools
 
Lol don't let ignorants affect you
 
10:09 PM
i keep on having hope that i can change the world
you know, eradicate imperial units in the us and that shit
i seem to be deluded
 
@AkashAggarwal s/affect/play/
@ChemiCalChems I concur
 
xD
How old are you @ChemiCalChems?
@ChemiCalChems
 
That explains why are you being affected by him
 
oh well
i dismissed him in a way he can't possibly come back and thats about it
one more contaminated soul
 
10:12 PM
hahaha xD
 
Ankara: Tank heading to Prime minster's palace. Protesters block the tank. https://t.co/IdhNgVsdPj
 
what?
 
@sehe That's just not true at all. We're all humble geniuses!
 
@JerryCoffin I feel your humbleness.
wait wait wait
coup de etat?
for real?
 
10:16 PM
Being slow? For real?
Seriously: "It's complicated"
 
@sehe I don't have a chip inside my brain updating me with the latest world news, at least yet. Where did you buy yours?
 
@ChemiCalChems Apparently. Started around 3 hours ago now.
 
@JerryCoffin Holy shit. I can't tell if you're bored or drunk.
In other words: It's complicated. — Mysticial 27 secs ago
 
@Mysticial That was the reference
 
SCR /cc @JerryCoffin
 
10:22 PM
@ChemiCalChems I have none. I hardly follow any news. But I do pick up on breaking topics
 
@sehe I was obviously kidding, I have been out for the last couple of hours though.
 
Ok. Next time, just google it :)
 
@Mysticial A little bored--but have also seen enough similar questions over the years get closed (too broad, etc.) that perhaps it'll be useful as a FAQ-like question on the general subject of instructions per clock and such.
 
@sehe I did, I just wanted to express my surprise that so many things have happened between yesterday and today.
@Ramy I think it's quite obvious.
 
Oh. Damn. I need to point the script at the Bin again.
Still obvious
 
10:33 PM
@sehe So does anybody actually use the C++ room, or it is just another bin?
 
They tried. The other day.
 
Ell
Man there is some orchestral music I can't remember the name of
There is no way I'll find it :3
 
Impossibru
@Ell You can try
 
Nobody has that on the tip of their tongue. You just need a good description and context
 
10:35 PM
@sehe I provided a sample of made of a song that is very obscure and got the answer in a day or two.
 
You could of course have linked. Also a sample counts as a good description (depending on the sample, of course)
 
https://t.co/R8HmOocvqn
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Unreal's UPROPERTY (which allows strong references to GC-controlled objects) only works one level on TArray and TMap, can't have a UPROPERTY of TMap<Key, TArray<T*>> and have it keep the pointers in the values alive.
 
hm I thought the pic would be oneboxed
 
Xeo
@Abyx Erdogone
 
Ell
10:42 PM
I am on mobile so its very difficult...
 
pokemon tiem
 
Ell
I left
 
me too
 
pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnb_qvJXEAA60-H.jpg - better to go on vacation to crimea rather than turkey
 
One-issue propagandist arrived
 
10:53 PM
That's not a fair assessment... I have tons of issues
2
 
Ven
D:
 
I'll allow it
 
11:11 PM
You've found that once before.
Or maybe I misremember
 
Ell
11:24 PM
I probably have
I'm quite fond
Sleep time for me. Night!
 
Fond dreams
 
@ChemiCalChems arguing on YouTube comments?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes.
 
You're the fool :p
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Understand my mindset. I want to make more people know the truth. I know it may be naive, but I'm no fool for posing valid arguments.
 
11:37 PM
Woof.
I suggest /you/ understand your mindset :)
 
@sehe I do understand my mindset. My will is to assist people in understanding that they live in a lie based on no more than incoherent statements. Maybe their lives wouldn't change much, but for me knowing the truth about anything is one of my basic principles in life. That is my mindset.
 
If that's your will, you should probably allocate some part of that beautiful brain to ponder the most effective methods
 
@sehe Good idea. Would a video debunking every argument put forward by flat earthers be a good idea? No mysterious bullshit, just pure logical statements, one after another. They have no way of denying logical statements without being illogical.
 
Much better already. Bound to get some views if you do it in style.
Of course, these vids already exist. In numbers.
 
@ChemiCalChems Since you showed interest in knowing the truth about any thing, the truth is that you're severely underestimating the human capacity to deny logical statements
 
11:44 PM
> They have no way of denying logical statements without being illogical.
They don't mind. They don't care what you think. And if you do care, it's more fun to them.
@HWalters Indeed.
 
@HWalters I do understand so, but they would at least know deep inside they are not being logical, if logic is of any value to them, which is questionable.
Maybe in fact this war has no winning condition.
@sehe I do know this, but they are targeted at people who know science. They are not packed in a way that anyone can understand, that's what I intend to do. Explain why stuff is like it is, even if it is 30 minutes long.
Not only with maths, but with experimental proof too.
 
Good luck. I think all flat earthers understand the evidence and reasoning. They just don't want to accept it.
There's this brand of people who think there is nothing wrong with that.
 
I'm not in that brand of people, unfortunately for both flat earthers and myself.
 
I'm not even sure that's the case. People like to feel they know something others don't know. A good way to tap into that is to give them bunches of factoids. Factoids in communities grow, and by the time you get knee deep into it, you feel like all of the evidence is on your side and the arguments against you are the naive ones
 
@HWalters By proving the factoids these people believe in wrong, their beliefs will be bound to fall.
 
11:50 PM
So with flat earthers, they have hundreds of "factoids". Doesn't matter if it's true or not... arguing against them goes against all of those factoids. Same with lots of other phenomena (truthers, moon hoaxers, etc)
 
The positive side is it is guaranteed that the Earth is round, so we can be sure that there is not factoid than can't be disproven, we just need to go ahead and do it. And I'm willing to invest my time in this, I don't have much to do anyway.
 
@sehe I think an awful lot of people think they accept such facts, but at some emotional level they really don't. On several occasions I've set up a telescope at night and let people look through it at Saturn. By far the most common reaction among those seeing Saturn and its rings for the first time is roughly: "Wow, it's really real!" They've seen pictures before, and I don't think any of them really believe they've been lied to or anything like that.
 
It's not so bad as form of recreation... but you're fighting an uphill battle :)
 
@HWalters With an unbeatable weapon, that is.
 
You overestimate and misapprehend the problem
 
11:53 PM
@JerryCoffin That reaction to me is even more beautiful than the normal, oh yeah that's nice.
 
Yours is not to prove, but to convince (as you're characterizing it)
 
@HWalters Convincing is definitely harder than proving. But people aren't convinced cause they don't fully understand the reasoning behind the proofs to start with. They don't understand that there would be no benefit in NASA lying to us either.
It simply wouldn't make sense. I'm here to explain why. I doubt no one will be convinced, the odds are just to small for that to happen, somebody HAS to be convinced.
But even if my work is in vain, that won't matter. It will still have been an interesting project on debunking false claims, which is always nice.
 
@ChemiCalChems It really is pretty fun to watch. I have concluded that most people who do this make one fundamental mistake: they try to show the things they're currently interested in personally. For people who are merely mildly curious, I think there are really only three targets: the moon, Jupiter, and Saturn.
 

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