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12:05 AM
the dialog in this game omg... >.<
 
12:43 AM
@CaptainGiraffe You mean ... bach's Badinerie (based on the second part only)? Also, you need to indicate octaves (any jump >4th needs explicit indication or I'll assume the closest jump)
@CaptainGiraffe based on that, I'm gonna assume the pitch and keys are accurate, there's books for that
 
JMK
@JerryCoffin yes, I'm still getting to grips with Git!
got it now, thanks for the help :)
 
1:00 AM
It's also not one of
Flute Concerto, TWV 51:D1 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
Flute Concerto, TWV 51:D2 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
Flute Concerto, TWV 51:E1 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
Flute Concerto, TWV 51:G1 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
Flute Concerto, TWV 51:h1 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
Flute Sonata, TWV 41:D9 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
Flute Sonata, TWV 41:G9 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
Flute Sonata, TWV 41:h4 (Telemann, Georg Philipp)
 
1:15 AM
fuck
 
Ok
@CaptainGiraffe anyways, I scanned the likely suspects from here imslp.org/wiki/Category:Telemann,_Georg_Philipp
If you can bring anything (a whistled recording, you humming it, played on a piano, whatevs) I might spot it using spotify
 
2:01 AM
@CaptainGiraffe of all the things I listened to this matched most closely, but it was not Telemann :) open.spotify.com/track/4YstyolPJ8HGPJXOgrw6PB (Concerto For Five Flutes in A minor, Boismortier)
 
Video on my tiny house construction almost completed. some 300+ pictures chosen from thousands of pictures taken over the course. sorting them in logic order then add some editing
takes longer than I expected
like most other things
 
2:36 AM
@Telkitty Damn you for changing your avatar... you're totally ruining my secret art projects
 
for telkitty you need chickens
also I have tremendous difficulty telling people apart when they have similar avatars and sometimes I just merge the people in my head
like Rapptz and Alex M.
Jan 7 at 0:58, by jaggedSpire
@Borgleader ...oh god I've been confusing Alex and Rapptz, even after Alex switched avatars
 
I am telkitty not telchicken :p
but you might be right, a chicken avatar could complete me >_<
@HWalters are you going to use that in a horror anime? :p
 
you love your chickens
I know this like I know you live in Australia
 
I wasn't planning on it
 
3:03 AM
Anybody know of an algorithm or reference on how to draw filled circles into an array, so that the centers are correctly located at fractional coordinates?
 
3:52 AM
no
 
Drawing circles is hard
I'm almost done re-implementing the one in the OpenCV source.
 
4:33 AM
Just realised that windows live movie maker uses soft links for both pictures and videos
when you add the pic/vid to the resulting vid then delete them from the original folder, the pic/vid gets deleted in the resulting video too
 
4:51 AM
lol, this Firefox issue is still not resolved: bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856375
 
lol, I stopped using firefox, because everytime there is an upgrade, adblock would stop working
 
@Telkitty Dunno, that worked fine for me for years now.
 
@wilx so adblock works for you after all the firefox upgrades
 
@Telkitty Yes. Well, I use AdBlock Plus or something.
 
5:21 AM
Quite interesting.
 
6:19 AM
Well, I am not finished with the above article but I am already more confused about hypothesis testing than I was before. :)
 
 
1 hour later…
7:41 AM
also heh
> In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer.
I was trying to find out how many of those 258 deaths were actually unarmed people
> In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015
but that doesn't tell me anything if I don't know the ration for unarmed white men
The whole article is pretty good
Look at the points 4 and 5 as well
 
Yeah, in Chicago cops have almost stopped policing
 
My current conclusion from all that is: if you're a black person who doesn't own a gun and is not a criminal, you have pretty much no reason to be afraid of the police.
> murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists
It's pretty sad how BLM actually caused more people to die
 
BLM and similar keeps these communities poor because they are hostile to removal of segregated areas. For example, the hostile when they demolished the housing projects in Chicago or the "heroic" rebuilding of the Lower Ninth Ward in New Orleands.
 
nwp
only if you can appreciate guitar porn. It doesn't even sound good.
 
wat
@nwp it does sound superb
 
nwp
@BartekBanachewicz pretty sure it only sounds superb to you because you know how difficult it is to pull off.
 
8:33 AM
@nwp I honestly don't, because I don't play bass.
I like the sound of bass though, and I like how that rendition sounds
bear in mind that it's a solo instrument, while the original version had a lot of other stuff
(like vocals)
 
nwp
weird. this one sounds infinitely better to me. It's probably cheating because they use 2 people, but at least it sounds like a song.
 
Also tone aside, she's putting in a lot of small details on her own
those are small things but they make it super nice overall
 
nwp
@BartekBanachewicz for someone who doesn't even recognize the song those details are completely lost
 
@nwp Wat.
 
@nwp I don't believe that's true
You need a certain dose of listening ability, but I don't think you necessarily have to know Tears in Heaven by heart to appreciate it
 
8:37 AM
It's pretty uncommon, but I'm going to take Bartek's side for once :D
I don't know the original track, but it sounds excellent nevertheless.
 
nwp
ok. It's entirely possible that I lack that certain dose of listening ability.
 
@nwp well, maybe because the original was actually played with just a guitar?
 
Starting with the same note x32. Still good.
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, that explains. I almost never listen to Clapton :/
 
8:39 AM
I love Clapton
but I guess I like playing his stuff more than listening to it
 
I liked playing contemporary music more than listening to it too.
 
lol Baboon Johnson is the UK foreign secretary.
 
nwp
this version also sounds good and as far as I can tell it doesn't cheat. Maybe its because I'm expecting a guitar but its not actually a guitar and therefore sounds wrong.
 
anyway she's a Pole
I could see her live :D
 
Ven
hi
 
8:42 AM
she actually seems to be touring quite a lot
 
@Morwenn Sceptics would snark "You liked making a mess more than looking at it" :)
 
@nwp what do you mean by "doesn't cheat"?
 
@sehe Well, that would obviously be true too :)
 
nwp
@BartekBanachewicz doesn't use 2 people, doesn't use other instruments or vocals
 
@sehe hahaha
 
8:44 AM
@Telkitty @Kretab what have you done?
 
@nwp well a bass will definitely sound different
not just in tone and frequencies, but the groove
 
Groove is love. Groove is life.
 
FWIW it's not her original cover, this seems to be the one (bad recording)
but then again music is all about remixing and taking stuff done by others
 
I listen to so many remixes and covers.
 
I listen to loads of stuff
 
9:27 AM
How do you deal with wanting to punch the next person that mentions Pokemon GO in your presence?
 
anger management
I don't know why people get addicted to it, I downloaded it, tried it,then deleted it
 
Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated catch them all.
 
@milleniumbug Nah, it's boring.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you punch them
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You invite suitable persons so that you punch the right people
 
9:37 AM
@milleniumbug I've seen multiple AR GPS games over the last few years, and I'd say that this one utilizes this mechanism pretty badly in comparison. It's only the pokemon franchise that makes it so popular.
 
@milleniumbug Nope. Completely immune to that shit
 
^
hell, I was doing geocaching before smartphones were a thing
Terrain games have existed for years as well
 
maybe it's an age thing, older people don't get addicted??
 
They all utilize the surroundings in a creative way
 
9:38 AM
from what I've read, pokemon just requires you to cover distance more or less randomly
 
Don't want to install Google Maps, so it won't work anyway
 
it's a good thing to get people kids active
 
@milleniumbug wut, what maps do you use?
I think gmaps are pretty damn good frankly
I drive with them often
 
jakdojade.pl
still, if I'd wanted to punch everybody who plays it, half of the people at work would be out of commision
 
oh well I use GMaps because I walk or drive, and for those things it's great. For city transport I use jakdojade as well
@milleniumbug funny, I don't think anyone plays it here
also omg omg omg omg I just saw S1000XR irl for the first time in my life
what a glorious machine
 
9:42 AM
looks quite nice
 
it's the best motorcycle ever
for one it has ABS that actually works when turning
and computer-controlled suspension
and 160 horsepower
 
@milleniumbug Wait, it needs Google Maps?
 
it needs a lot of weird things
#permissiongate
 
@BartekBanachewicz I use OSM. It's much better than Google Maps if you go "off-road".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh sure. I use a lot of different map engines.
Was just curious as to why you'd not use GMaps specifically because I think it's pretty damn good
inb4 privacy
 
9:49 AM
No offline maps is a common complaint.
 
but they have offline maps
sure, walking directions don't work offline but...
 
They don't? TIL
 
I mean the privacy argument is totally legit, someone might realize I'm not in Poland now. Y'know, if they missed a shitload of posts of me on FB saying that I'm not there.
Or they might realize I go to work each day.
Or what places I choose when I get out, if they miss the photos I post from there literally tagged with the location
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It uses Google Maps API, not actually sure if this means it requires Google Maps on the phone
but I think it does
 
I think Google Location services or something is a separate component
not sure though
> Pokemon porn searches rocket up as much as 336%
Gotta fap to 'em all
>GIMP 2.9.4 released with tons of improvements.
 
9:57 AM
@BartekBanachewicz If you live in a city like Berlin, their maps are only offline nominally because you can't save an offline map that covers even half the city. (It is possible this has changed, but it was the state of the art at the time I switched)
 
wow they actually seem to be fixing GIMPs UI
I am actually temptedto try out new GIMP
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm pretty sure you can cover a lot now, OTOH the whole berlin has superb 4G coverage I suppose
> We cleaned the Preferences dialog a little and reordered options in a more logical manner. The Color Management page was redesigned following both internal and user-visible changes in relevant parts of GIMP (see below), and the Snap Distance options have been moved to a dedicated Snapping page.
No way, they are actually fixing GIMP's UI
Hell freezes tomorrow
 
@BartekBanachewicz Berlin is much bigger (in surface area) than most people realize.
 
I was there remember :P
let me check how much will gmaps allow me to select
@R.MartinhoFernandes looks pretty ok
 
10:15 AM
oh finally found the unarmed kills count /cc @JerryCoffin
> U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each
which means out of those 258 deaths, only 50 were unarmed
now that's interesting
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz no, 50*2=100
 
258 is the number of black deaths
 
Ven
ah! okay
 
@BartekBanachewicz wow. There's a clear, linear downward trend from Bakersfield to Riverside!
:)
 
> Overall, the majority of the people who have been shot and killed by police officers in 2015 and 2016 were, based on publicly available evidence, armed with a weapon and attempting to attack the officer or someone else.
well that's fucking obvious
so why there's no correlation by the police violence and community violence
this doesn't make any sense
> “The only thing that was significant in predicting whether someone shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black,”
 
Ven
10:27 AM
that's skipping quite a lot of variables
"50 white killed and 50 black killed" what's the rep. % to start with
 
10:39 AM
@Ven there's way more white people than black people
my only point there was that 50 is a pretty low number if you want to play pokemon go as a black person
Also funny enough, I just watched a video of a white unarmed person getting shot
Pretty much everyone agrees that the policemen didn't do anything wrong
 
10:52 AM
Morning
 
morning
heh, just got dynmap to work
it's such an amazing plugin
 
@BartekBanachewicz That looks about 30-40 times larger than when I switched.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I could actually make it even bigger
 
OSM is pretty good, though, and better in some things, so I'm not going back.
 
yeah OSM is nice
 
10:58 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Well, I have complete Europe maps offline, so it's hard to beat.
(Could have the entire planet, but I need space for music on my SD card)
The level of detail when you're off-road is a killer feature for me.
 
It feels so great to have space on my phone again
I was totally stuck in the 16GB I had
 
How much do you have now?
 
64
no SD card slot but I don't mind
it's not the storage that made me want to upgrade my previous phone the most anyway
 
<3 my 128GB card :D
Is it weird that I know my IBAN by heart?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes cards are much slower than embedded storage though
 
11:06 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, but 128GB :D
It's good enough for audio.
Not gonna put apps in it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how much do you have on local storage?
 
Actually dunno. I think it's 16.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes meh, right now I have 7GB used. Spotify will prolly build to about 2GB of cache. I take about 3GB of photos per year (well okay now I have like 16MP but still)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes you weirdo
 
@BartekBanachewicz I take photos with my camera.
Phones suck.
All photos I take with the phone are transient.
90% of the time just showing something to someone.
 
11:15 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes eh, my GF is still processing our photos from Vienna (from the RAWs). The photos from phones aren't of superior quality, but they arrive quickly to the internet, are geotagged and easy to share with others.
also fun fact my phone can shoot RAWs and has a manual mode
but in the end it's all about a huge lens, just like in Haskell
 
 Failed logins from:
    113.195.145.79 (79.145.195.113.adsl-pool.jx.chinaunicom.com): 111 times
    221.229.172.97: 195 times
24 hours.
 
wat
maybe just whitelist IPs?
reminds me I should prolly set up whitelisting for minecraft
 
@BartekBanachewicz That locks me out unless I am in a box with a fixed known IP.
I have fail2ban anyway.
 
Also
you never responded; would switching to IPv6 fix that problem?
 
Dunno.
Not entirely sure how they discover those IPs.
 
11:29 AM
I supose providers have a pool
 
@BartekBanachewicz That would basically be the same strategy as preventing spam by not giving out your email address.
 
if you get reassigned an IP someone used to hold a shitty server
@R.MartinhoFernandes which seems to work at least partially, no?
I'm not saying that should be the only measure; just an additional one.
 
@BartekBanachewicz The problem is that this strategy conflicts with the fact that DNS is effectively publishing the IP.
 
I suppose you'd need some sort of proxy to hide that
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then you just move the issue to the proxy :D
I need to look at the logs more closely and tune the fail2ban parameters. Probably need to increase the retry window.
Or just move ssh to a non-standard port.
Works wonders.
Also considering this:
In computer networking, port knocking is a method of externally opening ports on a firewall by generating a connection attempt on a set of prespecified closed ports. Once a correct sequence of connection attempts is received, the firewall rules are dynamically modified to allow the host which sent the connection attempts to connect over specific port(s). A variant called single packet authorization exists, where only a single "knock" is needed, consisting of an encrypted packet. The primary purpose of port knocking is to prevent an attacker from scanning a system for potentially exploitable services...
 
11:34 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, the proxy is supposed to handle multiple servers
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
that's pretty funny
 
TOTP knock sequences!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's just security-through-obscurity though
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's just to remove the noise.
It's not very obscured because any port scan will find it.
 
But the vast majority of the noise is login attempts, not port scans.
 
nwp
11:38 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Thats like saying "I don't care that black people get shot. I'm not black." Not everyone can just publish all their private data and solve privacy issues by just not having privacy.
 
@nwp well then don't use a phone
a lot of people think they need more privacy than they actually do IMHO
> Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality.
Hm I need to set up a mostly static page
 
Ben
this isn't very constructive.
 
user1804599
11:57 AM
Lua is great.
 
Ben
**You are outside Bartek's house, carrying an elongated stick and twenty gold coins of some unknown currency.**
>
 
lol
@Bassie it's pretty nice indeed
 
user1804599
I'm using Lua to process log entries.
 
user1804599
Only the implicit nil you get when reading absent globals is utterly retarded but c'est la vie.
 
nwp
@Bassie and the garbage collection
 
user1804599
12:06 PM
I don't have problems with the garbage collection.
 
@nwp Lua has a pretty great GC
frankly it's probably the language I had the least problems with GC
 
user1804599
Perl 5 has a nice GC too.
 
user1804599
Cycles will leak though.
 
nwp
@BartekBanachewicz You have a point there. I probably don't need any privacy at all. Maybe I just can't think rationally in this regard. I still feel like giving everyone access to my private data is bad without actually knowing any tangible downsides. Guess I'm paranoid.
 
@nwp You have nothing to worry about. No one wants to see your dick pics anyway :P
 
Ben
12:25 PM
could we have a text adventure?
 
what do you mean by we
 
Ben
@BartekBanachewicz 'we' meaning all may participate. I'll be the interpreter.
 
nwp
12:37 PM
> error: 'merge' is not possible because you have unmerged files.
guess why I'm trying to merge...
 
@nwp You don't think identity theft is a downside?
 
nwp
doesn't seem tangible
 
What do you mean by "tangible", then?
 
nwp
realistic
 
Your chances of being a victim of identity theft are fourfold if a database with your data is breached.
@nwp It happens all the time, so I don't know what your bar for realism is.
 
nwp
12:41 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes if I read that right they had "900,071,618 RECORDS BREACHED". How many of those produced significant disadvantages to the owner of the record or the person the record was about? I expect most people don't even know.
 
Identity theft is worth billions in damages.
@nwp Some 90% of identity theft victims are not aware.
@nwp What does "significant" mean here?
Best case scenario, they produce disadvantages by damaging the economy.
It's a collective loss.
Worst case, you get arrested for drug trafficking. (Actually happened)
 
also lmao
 
nwp
@R.MartinhoFernandes something like... I lost a job opportunity because someone did stupid things under my name and the potential employer didn't notice it wasn't me
 
every time we play minecraft
my GF builds the main house in style of a famous architect
she chose one for this server already
 
@nwp damaged credit is the most common effect.
 
12:46 PM
p cool
 
Also note that being in a breach doesn't mean you'll be a victim. It does multiply your chances by four.
 
nwp
maybe a post privacy society is actually the correct natural solution
although I expect people will always want to have secrets
 
Xeo
Hm. Is there an answer on SO that explains how the using swallow = int[]; trick works?
 
@Xeo I hope not; it's a horrible hack
 
Not horrible enough though
 
nwp
1:00 PM
why can we not have switch on pointers again? I don't buy that there is only 1 pointer constant, because the addresses of functions or other global data are totally compile time constants.
 
because switch statement is a broken feature
fuck switch forever
 
nwp
fine, huge if-else chain it is... this is no fun
 
@Xeo o.O what trick is that?
 
nwp
by huge I mean like 4 cases but still
 
3
Q: Creating my own flow control statements in C++. Is that acceptable?

milleniumbugI always considered switch statement as somehow defective: works only on integral types and enumerations. isn't an readability improvement over traditional if/else chain. forget a break - you have a bug. variable declaration spills over neighbouring cases. is essentially a computed goto Becau...

@Borgleader using swallow = int[]; swallow{ (some_expression_with_a_parameter_pack, 0)... }; <- enforcing sequential evaluation
 
Xeo
1:04 PM
@ScarletAmaranth No it's not!
@milleniumbug And providing a context for variadic expansion.
 
yeah, I was wondering for a while why you can't simply do some_expression_with_a_parameter_pack...;
 
@Xeo yeah it's perfectly clear to use an eager-to-decay array of int to get left-to-right guarnatees
@Xeo I need you to recommend an anime
 
move it to your utility library and document it
 
Xeo
Did you watch Sakasama no Patema yet?
 
yeah but that's a movie (and a great one)
 
Xeo
1:07 PM
Welp, I'm all out of recommendations then. :D
 
@ScarletAmaranth find me a more obvious one and I'll use it
 
4
Q: How to call the idiom of using an array to apply a function to a variadic pack

AbyxHere is the idiom in question: template<typename... T> void f(T... t) { int temp[] = {(g(t), 0)...}; } This will be compiled as g(t0); g(t1); ..., order of function calls is guaranteed by C++11[dcl.init.list]/4. A better version uses std::initializer_list instead of array, but it's not imp...

 
Xeo
#define VARIADIC_EXPAND(pack) /*impl*/ :D
 
1 min ago, by milleniumbug
move it to your utility library and document it
 
1:08 PM
anyways, we'll have folding expressions soon
so why care about that ugly trick
 
Xeo
Cuz old compilers and I need it right now?
 
@milleniumbug std::map<std::regex, std::function> master race
 
how do folding expression help
 
Xeo
@milleniumbug Comma operator fold expression, I think
 
@Xeo I wish I haven't just seen this :-\
that's so broken it's beyond funny
 
Xeo
1:10 PM
lol
 
folding with what is basically an operator for side effects
 
@milleniumbug Huh, I didn't know you could do that
 
hey there
 
Xeo
// This provides a context for variadic expansion.
// (void) discards the result to silence warnings.
// The 0 is needed if `vs` is empty.
should be good enough, eh
 
nwp
1:24 PM
@fredoverflow I watched that. Just about everything that guy says is wrong.
and not the just functional programming part
 
@nwp that's a rather bold claim
 
nwp
One part I specifically remember was him comparing complexities of the universe to programs. He said there are about 10^80 atoms in the universe which fits in like 5 integers. While 5 integers have more than 10^80 states they probably can't even describe a single atom.
Another thing is that he said he made the mistake of not writing comments and not being able to read his own code. His solution is to write plenty of comments. I, on the other hand, try to minimize comments. If I write comments I consider the code bad, because it needs comments.
Duplicating the code written in erlang/C++/whatever in English is a maintenance horror and very unlikely to be helpful.
 
1:43 PM
all valid points from you
lolololol
 
2:03 PM
Perfection is the enemy of the good.
 
.....riiiiight
 
I don't think rejecting improvement merely on the basis that it isn't perfect is a good strategy.
As a programmer, you should be sympathetic with that view.
 
nwp
Is there a way to git commit -m "message" without any changes? I just need the commit message, no files changed.
 
--allow-empty
 
nwp
Cool! thanks. It somehow doesn't show up in the list
 
2:14 PM
@Xeo do you use (f(), void(), 0)... to work around overloaded op, ?
 
sure why not
 
2:38 PM
@nwp Comments aren't (or shouldn't be, anyway) about duplicating the code, or anything close to it. Comments should be used to explain the code, such as why you made a particular choice. E.g., "Used insertion sort instead of quick sort because we we know all elements are close to their sorted positions" imparts information beyond what clearly written code would.
 
possibly the weirdest spawn I had ever
look at the start point
 
@BartekBanachewicz Second voxel related thing i see today.... jeez i feel like playing MC right now.
 
@Borgleader it is minecraft
 
@BartekBanachewicz Never said it wasn't
 
2:42 PM
this is voxel related (but not MC itself) still made me feel like playing it though
 
I still have a lot of setup to do
but I'm pretty psyched, I haven't played for quite some time
 
Ven
@Borgleader same
 
Xeo
2:53 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That normal or modded?
@Abyx No, because I control what is called. I just needed the expansion context (the order doesn't even matter, really)
it's (void)swallow{ 0, AddIfTemplate(arr, vs)... };
 
@Xeo you could use (void)std::initializer_list<int>{f()...};
 
Xeo
@Abyx why tho?
 
@Xeo vanilla
 
@Xeo no need for swallow, no leading zero
 
Xeo
Meh, I don't feel like pulling initlist into this
If I need it more often, I'll add it to the utilities as a macro, maybe
 
2:57 PM
we're still wondering whether to keep this seed tho
 
Xeo
or just plain swallow struct
@BartekBanachewicz should've taken the starting island as a challenge
 
@Xeo well we're considering it. I don't like moving the spawn though, so first days would be hard :)
I am a cruel admin
could be worse anyway
 
Xeo
Amplified?
Also, with that quasi-connected island, it looks a bit Mandelbrot-y
 
our world is regular
 

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