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8:00 PM
When you alternate a small positive and a small negative number.
 
@OMGtechy its called a template
 
I know that aha
 
elaborated type specifier
 
@milleniumbug thanks!
 
Ell
For ruby I mean
 
user1804599
8:01 PM
why can't you compare boost::variant<boost::none_t, std::u32string, std::int64_t>s for equality
 
user1804599
oh, boost::none_t maybe
 
user1804599
I should use std::tuple<>
 
is boost::none_t comparable
also why not boost::optional<boost::variant<std::u32string, std::int64_t>>
 
LOL
the TSA are such idiots
they posted detailed pictures of their master keys
 
8:02 PM
link link
 
anyone can produce them now
 
Yeah. The TSA approved locks are pretty much useless at this point.
 
what's tsa
 
This is a pretty major fail.
Transportation Security Administration
actually
 
8:03 PM
rip
 
an US agency that oversees the security of transport
(...)
 
good job tsa
 
if you fly you have to deal with them
 
@Ell I'll try to build from source
 
Frankly all the TSA agents I had anything to do with were much nicer than one of security agents at the Kraków Airport, so eh.
 
8:05 PM
I need to overhaul my image encoding / decoding system.
encoders / decoders should just be non-owning range adaptors over ranges of bytes
So you can stack them up
image_view<zlib_decoder, dds> ddsimage( data );
color c = ddsimage[ { 3, 3 } ];
 
> non-owning
rip
 
@Prismatic well, there's been affordable ones, but this might be a good affordable one :P
 
If I make them owning, then each transform will have to either generate a new container of what its given (hugely problematic) or modify the container in-place (unsuitable for some image formats).
 
If you make them non-owning, then for (auto && foo : adapter(temporary)) {} is rip
 
@Griwes are you a white cis male?
 
8:08 PM
Then just pin that temporary to a living variable.
 
@orlp Why are physical keys still a thing
 
@orlp 90% of the time
 
@orlp I've been in Denver at the airport - haven't seen them being not nice towards anyone.
Sure, this but anecdotal, but still.
I'm just describing my experiences.
 
overly excited presenter voice ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE! Maybe even AD HOMINEM!? DON'T LET @Griwes DECEIVE YOU!
 
> DECIEVE
@набиячлевэлиь That's a slippery slope.
 
8:11 PM
@Griwes You saw nothing
 
@набиячлевэлиь It's right there in the edit history, man.
 
oh, that's an official pi display display
 
@Griwes You're a slippery slope [ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°]
@Griwes HERESY!
 
@thecoshman display display? oh my
 
Oh I do love how the tone here differs from "regular" SO...
 
8:13 PM
@thecoshman I sure love how you display my display bb ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Ludwik Normally we're very calm talking about Botany
 
More Poles? We are multipolar as it is, we don't need to go any further...
 
@Griwes Redeploy, forward position! throws grenade
 
wat
 
I need to cut down on CoD:UO joeks
 
@orlp not as much as sslip.io guys
 
8:14 PM
@Griwes Well now we're in war with Poles
 
Also my pretty heap thing takes about 1.1x the time the system allocator here for allocations or random sizes (...deallocation not implemented yet).
 
I AM THE POLES!
 
That doesn't seem bad at all.
@набиячлевэлиь Wait, we are at war with ourselves?
 
@Ludwik your website leads to 404
 
Bummer.
 
8:15 PM
@Ludwik Head explodes from a Springfield bullet
 
@milleniumbug You can't just tell a person that!
 
@Griwes Well, the other poles
 
ITT Lounge<Poles>
 
Loża<Polska>
 
;_;
 
8:16 PM
ITT The Lounge becomes polarized
 
There's less jokes about that than about Lounge<Poles>.
 
@TonyTheLion Take that machine gun!
Ложа<Полякиь>
 
@Griwes yeah, totes make sense
 
mass kicks Poles
Ethnic cleansing.
 
salutes
 
8:20 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Ложа<Польша>
 
what does a butterfly have to do with butter?
3
 
I need to find some children books in Russian and start actually learning that language, eh.
 
@TonyTheLion Unfortunately, not for me. The last time I went to Colorado, my polarizing sun glasses got lost. Really need to get some new ones...
 
@Griwes Well, if you want Lounge<Poland> instead of Lounge<Poles>...
 
@orlp The name "flutter by" made a lot more sense for them.
 
8:22 PM
@orlp ...your mother
 
@JerryCoffin :o
 
@JerryCoffin oh Jerry :P
 
> [Update 2015-09-08: The key for the sslip.io domain has been revoked, which means that the service is no longer usable; however, the engineering behind sslip.io is still sound, and may be of interest to those who want to deploy a private version]
 
@Ell IT WORKS
 
while true ; do printf '\b' ; sleep 1 ; done & disown
2
 
8:23 PM
@Ell I don't understand what I should be doing though
 
Fun tricks.
 
> the engineering [...] is still sound
laffo
 
@набиячлевэлиь ...or even Польшая, although I'm not sure if that's the adjective...
As I said, my Russian is pretty limited. :P
 
@Griwes So is mine
I don't even know if Полякиь is correct
The soft char might not be necessary
Fun thing to do on long winter nights: convert Russian character names into English
 
Yeah, should be Поляки.
 
8:27 PM
@StackedCrooked That's gr8, m8
 
I don't think the soft char does anything with a vovel.
 
guys, did you know that when you're pooping and the poop causes a splash of water against your butthole that you've just been kissed by poseidon?
 
how high are you?
 
@Griwes Hmmm... гостиная<польский>, perhaps?
 
8:31 PM
 
@Griwes As high as a giraffe, it seems
 
@JerryCoffin More like польская if anything.
 
Since when is Polska male in any way shape or form?
 
Err. It's about гостиная.
It's feminine, so feminine declination of the adjective is necessary.
Wiktionary agrees. hides
You saw nothing.
 
hi
 
Ell
8:34 PM
@Mr.kbok there's not entirely an objective yet :P
 
nick agrees, so you have nothing to be ashamed of
 
Ell
Get the meatballs
 
@Griwes depends of what you wanna say
 
hi rapptz
 
Ell
That's about it so far :L
 
8:35 PM
@Ell Yes, I see you can't lose either :)
 
Ell
I was planning on making it so you had to make different knots or something
 
@Abyx Lounge<Polish> :P So "Polish lounge".
 
Ell
Or turning it into a slalom type thing
 
@Ell Very cool game still. I like that you took the time to make sounds and music, it really gives a good vibe to the game, even if the gameplay is VERY basic yet :P
 
@Griwes I brought wódka, when can we start?
 
8:36 PM
But as I said, my level of Russian is somewhere below child books with lots of images. :D
 
Ell
I didn't make the music, as I'm sure you can tell :P
But everything else I did
 
@Griwes That sounds even worse than mine
 
nail polish lounge
 
How do you manage that?
 
@Ell I guessed ^^
 
Ell
8:36 PM
I was not well while making it also :( but I had fun. And that's what counts :D
 
I got 4 for an A1 uni course. Semester long one.
 
@Griwes I think we should write it as "Po/and". Since it has a long history of division.
 
And that was a year ago.
 
> Need inspiration? How about redolent-octo-squeegee.
 
@Abyx -.-
 
8:37 PM
Thanks, GitHub.
 
Ell
@Mr.kbok thanks for putting the time in to set it up and play though. I'm glad you think its cool :)
 
@Abyx You'll have a brief but eventful history of division too.
 
Ell
As soon as I'm back I'll fire up a windows installation and play yours
 
...through your chest
 
Hmm, this whole Russian thing seems to be asking me to link this (audiophile warning: low quality recording):
 
8:39 PM
@набиячлевэлиь but we got Crimea!
 
Ell
Back to Spain now bye guys!
 
lol English name for Krym
@Abyx It was an allusion to you getting violently killed
 
@Griwes Hmm....I was figuring first declension, instrumental case, so it'd mean something like "Lounge with Polish people", but you may have intended something different.
 
@Griwes 10 out of fucking 10
 
8:41 PM
@Griwes lol that pun
 
[Oh, but while I could read some Russian at one time, it's been over a decade since I really even tried, and my memory's notoriously lousy, so...]
 
@Griwes idgi
 
@Mysticial It says "icecream".
While Крым is the proper spelling of Crimea.
 
tfw you the only one in the room who can't read Russian
 
oh
 
8:45 PM
@Griwes IceKrym
 
@набиячлевэлиь /ˈaɪs.kɹiːm/
 
Seems that I more or less achieved my goal.
 
use heapsort for everything?
 
@Rapptz hihiii
 
8:47 PM
@Griwes I don't think anything would softten the ы to и, but whatever
@Morwenn How is it space-wise? (space as in RAM)
 
@набиячлевэлиь The point is, people not knowing Russian will have difficulties realizing the pun without spelling it out in a way they understand.
@набиячлевэлиь Also that's icecream, not IceКрым.
 
heyo
 
@набиячлевэлиь O(n) I think? There should be no more than log2(n) calls to std::inplace_merge.
I don't know how to measure that.
It's not stable though.
 
How does one credit multiple people in one MIT License?
By just putting comma-separated names after "Copyright (c) 2015 "?
 
@Morwenn what does vergesort do differently?
 
8:50 PM
@Morwenn Not bad at all
@orlp Statistics
Although he abadoned that part apparently
 
@orlp It finds big sequences of sorted of reverse sorted stuff and strives to have almost no overhead when there aren't big sequences before calling pdqsort. And it merges the big sequences.
 
@Rapptz Do you remember where in the transcript was our discussion of what lucpm and lucdoc should do?
Or was it only lucpm and lucdoc was just a troll?
 
@набиячлевэлиь No idea.
 
lucdoc was def troll
 
@набиячлевэлиь Using statistics seemed fun, but the constant factor would be too high to serve any purpose :p
It didn't optimize the merge operations though. It would be too much work.
 
8:54 PM
@Morwenn so it's a layer on top of pdqsort that is a mergesort?
like, timpdqsort? :P
 
@orlp Yep.
 
@orlp venegancesort
 
Except it's better than timsort at finding patterns for some reason.
 
And since it falls back to pdqsort, it's better than almost anything else at sorting shuffled data :)
 
@orlp Using the pattern-defeating quicksort, and therefore the insertion sort, the quicksort, somehow the introsort and the heapsort wasn't enough. Of course if would be better with a bit of mergesort and timsort thrown into the mix.
 
@Morwenn what if you use std::experimental::parallel::inplace_merge
 
@orlp I don't know. I stuck to sequential because it's too hard to reason about parallel stuff. I'll probably try that in like 15 minutes.
 
@Abyx What a blunder.
 
@Morwenn parallel isn't a fair comparison either
 
9:04 PM
My visual studio keeps fucking crashing.
 
@Morwenn pdqsort could be really parallel, since it's divide and conquer
 
@orlp I agree.
 
@ThePhD Why are you using VS anyway
 
@Rapptz He said he gets D consulting and teaching jobs from time to time.
 
user1804599
Linking against libLLVMCore takes ages.
 
9:04 PM
What a blunder.
 
@orlp Interesting.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Because it comes with a p. fucking sweet build system that doesn't try to lop my fucking ankles off every chance it gets.
 
@Morwenn every recursive call is independent
 
@набиячлевэлиь To accomplish much, you almost always want to create a single entity that owns the copyright, and have the individuals turn their copyright over to it (possibly in return for some ownership in the owning entity, or something on that order). With multiple holders of one copyright, you need unanimous support from all owners to do anything.
 
@Rapptz why? D is not that bad. at least it has great syntax
 
9:05 PM
@Morwenn apart from perhaps the unguarded_ part
@Morwenn actually, no, that's guaranteed too
 
Who would give up their job to work on language X?
 
Let's write yet another research paper about sorting algorithms. An amateur one.
 
@JerryCoffin Interesting
 
@Rapptz anyone that has a stable financial situation and has a passion for language X?
 
VISUAL STUDIO HAS ENCOUNTERED A PROBLEM AND WILL SHUT DOWN
Fuckin' hell.
 
user1804599
9:07 PM
I guess I'll aggregate all LLVM .a files into a single .dll file.
 
user1804599
maybe that'll speed it up
 
@orlp that
 
@ThePhD the way he gives presentations leads me to believe he'd be a good teacher
 
@Rapptz Somebody who's well enough known that just about any time he wants, he can probably go to nearly anybody he'd like to work for, specify the job he wants to do, and have a very decent chance that they'd hire him to do exactly that?
(Of course, that assumes he wants to work for somebody who cares about the area in which he's well known...)
 
9:11 PM
Smooth explanation.
 
@ElimGarak Given the Apple logo, we can easily guess that "s/taking //" would increase accuracy though.
 
Yeah, I could live without the logos. :D
 
Ah, Magic...
 
Quite a magical incident, indeed!
 
9:21 PM
@TonyTheLion Lawl, all the destruction
 
> bool key_is_depressed(unsigned int key) const noexcept
 
poor key
 
@Nooble's code is full of surprises
 
in what way?
 
Like the one above
 
9:32 PM
lol
 
@набиячлевэлиь cout << "surprise motherfucker!!";
 
@ʞɔᴉN jumps ; hits head on ceiling ; dies
 
rip bob jr
 
user1804599
Why are UAC dialogs full-screen?
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah--shouldn't there at least be a matching key_is_really_happy or something?
 
9:43 PM
@JerryCoffin There is none
 
@elyse Because when they weren't, it caused problems (e.g., people would manage to pop up a UAC window that was hidden by something else, so if the user hit 'enter', they okayed installing a virus, or whatever).
 
10:00 PM
non-verbal communication is best communication
 
If my function accepts a string literal by reference like template<int N> foo(const char (&str)[N]). Will this reference be safe to use later on, or can it become dangling?
 
@StackedCrooked Literals are ever-valid, AFAIK
 
@StackedCrooked string literals have static storage duration.
 
Ok. Thanks.
 
10:15 PM
what makes you think that you're accepting a string literal by reference?
you're accepting a const char array by reference, which may be fulfilled by any const char array.
there is no requirement for any string literals.
 
user1804599
LLVM API documentation is so shit.
 
user1804599
CreateConstInBoundsGEP2_32 first argument is named Ty which makes it totally not clear what you should pass there, and it's not specified anywhere.
 
@AlexM. The character design in W3 is amazing.
 
I liked the baron
 
Theyre well written and interesting for the most part
 
user1804599
10:18 PM
Oh, apparently you can pass the null pointer.
 
I just met Johnny.
 
I hope DLC will cover him
 
@dhke: If you believe the 128-bit SSE are native quad-precision, I am not sure whether Intel's marketing has failed horribly or succeeded magnificently. — EOF Sep 4 at 21:27
^^ muahaha
 
@elyse I can't believe anybody would insult LLVM or its documentation in front of Puppy. He's so going to disagree, and tell you how awesome it is! :-)
 
@elyse It's of type Type*.
 
10:19 PM
also aren't you a little late to the party
people forgot about witcher 3 already
 
user1804599
Yes, that doesn't tell me much either.
 
kek
 
user1804599
It doesn't say what type I should pass there.
 
I actually don't see why that function should ever take a type in the first place.
it delegates to another function which states that that argument is the pointee type, which seems dumb as shit since the llvm::Value* already has a type.
 
user1804599
<dblaikie> elyse: Support for passing null is temporary. Eventually you'll have to pass the pointee type of the first operand.
<elyse> Why can't it be inferred?
<dblaikie> elyse: Pointer types are going away (all pointers will be the same type, basically - "ptr" instead of "i32*" or "i64*", etc) this is one of the many steps to get there.
 
10:21 PM
10/10 would organically grow codebase again
 
@elyse wtf that's dumb
why would all pointers have the same type?
 
user1804599
No idea.
 
user1804599
Ask dblaikie.
 
I may do that.
 
dblaikie is full of crap
 
10:23 PM
they have a strange approach to typing the IR.
function types for example are full of shit
well
Puppy lost a bunch of weight today express delivered out his ass, lucky him
 
Fuck that guy.
 
dblaikie or Puppy?
 
dblaikie
 
user image
9
 
10:26 PM
AHAHAHAH
 
wass goin on
 
@Puppy What did you do to get that reaction?
 
get what reaction?
 
@Borgleader Lose weight
 
Kiss her on the back, apprently.
 
10:26 PM
that's not me
 
I didn't even notice someone kissing the dog
 
I'm holding the camera
 
user1804599
%lambda = type { i8* ([0 x i8*]*, i8*)*, [0 x i8*] }

define i8* @line_main_implementation([0 x i8*]*, i8*) {
  %3 = load i8* ([0 x i8*]*, i8*)*, i8* ([0 x i8*]*, i8*)** getelementptr inbounds (%lambda, %lambda* inttoptr (i64 1 to %lambda*), i32 0, i32 0)
  %4 = call i8* %3([0 x i8*]* getelementptr inbounds (%lambda, %lambda* inttoptr (i64 1 to %lambda*), i32 0, i32 1), i8* inttoptr (i64 2 to i8*))
  ret i8* %4
}
 
user1804599
it works, I win
 
@ElimGarak They're not licking kissing the dog, they are bowing before it
 
10:27 PM
what is the deal with this picture of Daisy?
it's pretty much just like all the others.
 
user1804599
the eyes
 
"facial" expression
 
 
user1804599
that one is boring
 
@Puppy oh shit did I leave the oven on?
 
10:28 PM
@Puppy It reminded me of this picture:
 
@ThePhD animals tend to crash when stuff like that happens
 
user1804599
ok now to implement lambdas :L
 
@Puppy also your camera is trash
 
it's a potato
 
It's a potato XL2000
 
10:29 PM
@ElimGarak you mean potato MLG420, right?
 
@набиячлевэлиь I have yet to get that model.
 
personally I'm using the Potato 980 Ti
 
@ElimGarak You gotta blazeit, it's cool
 
I had this nice flow of information happening.
Object.SetColor() [main thread] ---> RenderData.color [render thread] ---> RenderSystem.render() [render thread]

But now I want to animate on the render thread. If I post updated valuse back to the [main thread] though, I get a feedback loop
 
user1804599
@Puppy where did you find info on generating object files from IR with LLVM API instead of llc?
 
10:34 PM
dunno, it was some basic tutorial somewhere
it's not complex though
 
user1804599
hurray!
 
llvm::PassManager pm;
std::unique_ptr<llvm::TargetMachine> targetmachine;
llvm::TargetOptions targetopts;
std::string err;
const llvm::Target& target = *llvm::TargetRegistry::lookupTarget(ClangOpts.TargetOptions.Triple, err);
targetmachine = std::unique_ptr<llvm::TargetMachine>(target.createTargetMachine(ClangOpts.TargetOptions.Triple, llvm::Triple(ClangOpts.TargetOptions.Triple).getArchName(), "", targetopts));
std::ofstream file(outputfile, std::ios::trunc | std::ios::binary);
llvm::raw_os_ostream out(file);
 
user1804599
nice thanks
 
Are you forming a cimpoler with verbibols, @elyse?
> "git" can mean anything, depending on your mood.
>
> - random three-letter combination that is pronounceable, and not actually used by any common UNIX command. The fact that it is a mispronunciation of "get" may or may not be relevant.
> - stupid. contemptible and despicable. simple. Take your pick from the dictionary of slang.
> - "global information tracker": you're in a good mood, and it actually works for you. Angels sing, and a light suddenly fills the room.
> - "goddamn idiotic truckload of sh*t": when it breaks
 
I guess nobody actually cares, but I'm going to sleep.
See you another day.
 
10:41 PM
@Morwenn nn
 
user1804599
Module::dump y u no std::cerr.
 
user1804599
Now the following doesn't work. :(
 
@Borgleader Thanks ^_^
 
user1804599
std::filebuf filebuf;
filebuf.open("build/a.ll", std::ios_base::out);
std::cerr.rdbuf(&filebuf);
m.dump();
 
use module.print()
 
user1804599
10:43 PM
oh nice
 
LLVM has it's own stream abstraction but they provide adapters for most obvious targets like files, strings, etc.
what's not so obvious is what fucking header to include to get the relevant adapter.
 
user1804599
oh that's quite obvious
 
user1804599
> #include <raw_ostream.h>
 
user1804599
esp. #ifndef LLVM_SUPPORT_RAW_OSTREAM_H, i.e. <llvm/Support/raw_ostream.h>
 
10:46 PM
my memory is that it was not always that simple.
perhaps it's simpler now in 3.6 compared to 3.2 or 3.3
 
user1804599
hurray Module::print takes an lvalue reference
 
yep.
many temp variables abound
 

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