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7:00 PM
install ninja and then use ninja generators of cmake
 
@набиячлевэлиь No, it's mingw32-make.
 
fuck make forever
 
user1804599
And only 57 degrees.
 
@Nooble man mingw32-make has no results
man make, on the other hand...
 
user406009
7:00 PM
@milleniumbug It's a good tool for certain things.
 
I know make, I'm saying it comes defaulted to mingw32-make.
 
user406009
Not for complex projects though.
 
@Nooble No, it doesn't
 
I'm gonna start the discussion for the 3rd time
It's not
 
@набиячлевэлиь Yes it does. Get a fresh install of MinGW.
And tell me if there's a make.
 
7:01 PM
@Nooble lol MinGW; lol platform-specific names
mild trolling intensifies
 
Guess I am stuck with Apple's variant of LLVM (6.1.0) for now.
 
Ninja's general-purpose low-level build engine, without all the cruft
 
@ElimGarak Can I use this to concatenate multiple draw calls in one? (if for example i had one vertex buffer but multiple index buffers pointing to that same vertex buffer?)
 
Make is suitable neither for low-level nor for high-level
 
user1804599
I have Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo.
 
7:03 PM
@elyse Cool.
 
user1804599
It works very well.
 
@Nooble sigh intensifies
 
I have an NZXT x61.
 
Now those are letters from the Latin alphabet
 
user1804599
7:04 PM
I'm gonna use Boehm because fuck implementing GCs.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Now those are letters from the Latin alphabet
 
@набиячлевэлиь intensifies intensifies
 
@TonyTheLion intensifying intensifies intensifying
 
so intense
 
@Nooble I have something, too
 
7:05 PM
@sehe I can remind you of this periodically.
 
It's about time we nuke this 40 year old tool and replace it with something better
 
mingw64-make :D
twice as good
 
@Borgleader Well, that is the general idea, to stuff a lot of primitives into a single vertex buffer and then specify the various ranges and counts of the relevant IBs.
 
@milleniumbug lol
 
user406009
> It's about time we nuke this 40 year old programming language and replace it with something better.
 
7:06 PM
We nuked FTP successfully, we're on the road to nuking email
It's good
 
@milleniumbug what with?
 
> we're on the road to nuking email
evidence?
 
Consider how many people use IMs, Facebook, whatsapp and stuff
 
@melak47 I have many things
@milleniumbug that doesn't replace email per se
 
@milleniumbug lol ryjzbuk
 
7:08 PM
That's why we haven't replaced it - we're only on the road to replacing it
 
a replacement for email to me means "something that is better than email and serves the functionality"
anything that doesn't satisfy isn't technically a "replacement" now is it?
 
Second time now that a recruiter has said something like ...I know C++ is just an earlier version of C#...
 
Heck, even XMPP
 
shush and don't contradict me :P
 
7:09 PM
Huh, on XCode's installation also got me NASM. Pretty cool.
 
@caps recruiters most always suck
@ElimGarak lol
 
@набиячлевэлиь FTP? SFTP of course.
@Lalaland See Java and C#
they try
 
lol
"I'm using XCode" is the new "I'm using PHP on the client"
 
user406009
@milleniumbug you have to appreciate the irony of saying that in a C++ chat room. A language full of legacy luggage.
 
I'm getting annoyed with C++ to hell
 
7:12 PM
thats a feature of C++
 
Also I came to the conclusions programming languages on their own don't matter
There's also IDEs, frameworks, libraries, toolsets, community
 
you should try C#, it's pretty cool
 
Eclipse + Ruby + the Perl Community == win
 
lol Ruby
ask @CatPlusPlus about Ruby
 
7:13 PM
If your language is good, but your community is terrible, then I'm not quite interested in learning it
 
what if the language sucks but the community is great?
 
that's C++
 
so we're great
cool
 
Wide has a great community - every member is extremely experienced in the language with detailed knowledge
 
7:14 PM
C++ community is most helpful community ever
- Said no one ever
 
C++ has a community?
 
@Puppy Does 1 person even count as "community"?
@ElimGarak apparently
 
@TonyTheLion ye kinda
 
@milleniumbug I meant email, but that's covered
 
@MarcoA. hehe
 
7:15 PM
> a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
any size, so I'd say yes
 
I have wondered what kind of person I am really
 
user1804599
building LLVM uses over 15 GB RAM ._.
 
@TonyTheLion a living one (hopefully)
 
sudden realization
 
user1804599
linking the optimiser
 
7:15 PM
each one of us is a community
 
don't complain, I've seen optimization passes which build gigantic trees and take up to 80 GB RAM
 
@elyse I read that a "licking the optimiser"
I was like "kinky"
 
@AlexM. Just like all users are in groups of the same name on Linux
(by default, anyway)
 
@AlexM. one for all, all for one
 
steam didn't want to refund my TESO lmao
 
7:17 PM
@MarcoA. And I thought 2GB for shellcheck was a lot
 
I was 2 hours over the 2 hour playtime limit for the "it's not fun" reason
might as well just keep playing it in FF XIV pauses lol
 
Also, it takes 2GB on Linux but muck less on Windooze
weird
 
@AlexM. Sorry to hear that, Rapptz.
 
@MarcoA. 80 GB? Damn.
 
@AlexM. TESO?
 
7:25 PM
the elder scrolls online
 
@TonyTheLion The kind who's just Lion around and Lion to all of us.
 
That game has been tagged as shit years ago. :P
 
my main problem with it is that it's very...
 
Shit.
 
single player-able
 
7:26 PM
@JerryCoffin hahah
 
and the players seem very distant
FF players are more talkative and approachable
 
@TonyTheLion I'll be here all week. Remember to tip your waitress.
 
Can't wait for TES VI, however, given the development tick tock cycle of BGS, TES VI is 2019. at best.
 
user1804599
the designer of the windows folder selection dialog must die
 
user1804599
it's so small by default and you can't double click to select
 
7:32 PM
@elyse Its being a poor design should be expected (it is from Windows 95, after all). The real problem is that despite decades of experience showing many ways in which it sucks (and you've only scratched the surface) it hasn't been updated to a design that works even slightly better.
 
@elyse They musn't die. They ought to fix it first.
 
@ElimGarak I can wait any amount of time as long as it will be totally killer
 
Morwenn is right, they'll die in the tentative
 
@ElimGarak wats bgs
 
@ElimGarak what's TES?
 
7:33 PM
@Puppy Bethesda Game Studios.
 
@MarcoA. The Elder Scrolls
 
Ell
Hi
 
one of the longest-running game franchises IIRC
@Ell iH
 
is it somewhat related to Skyrim?
 
7:34 PM
Skyrim is TES V.
 
@MarcoA. Skyrim is the fifth installment of the series
 
oh, that was a great game
 
Since Oblivion, BGS added Fallout into their development cycle, so it looks like this:
Oblivion
Fallout 3 (outsourced NV to Obsidian)
Skyrim
Fallout 4
??? TES VI
 
TESArena best RPG
 
user1804599
7:36 PM
yay it's done building LLVM
 
Fuck, it took me 2 hours to build gcc the other day. Never again doing it on old machines.
 
@elyse if you built everything you'll have some libs and a few bins to play around with
you might start with Kaleidoscope and move on
 
user1804599
uh, why would I do Kaleidoscope
 
user1804599
I already know how to use LLVM. :v
 
my bad, I thought it was your first time
 
> In Windows 3.1, beginning users took over 9 ½ minutes, on average, to locate and open a program that was not immediately visible
 
my grandma in Win10 takes the same amount
nah, who am I kidding..
she can't even turn the pc on
=> doormat
 
@ʞɔᴉN Needs more SSD.
 
@ʞɔᴉN ...but with Windows 95, we've improved that to 15 minutes!
 
Progress!
 
7:41 PM
Man, I feel like a baby next to Jerry.
 
@MarcoA. wonder what her reaction to the original windows 8 release was
 
@ʞɔᴉN the same as with any other OS or pc: "wtf is this?"
 
@ElimGarak Feels good, doesn't it? (sure wish I felt like I did 20 or 30 years ago).
 
@MarcoA. but is there Intel Inside??
 
sure, she put the sticker on a chicken
the SSD one on the fastest
unfortunately the location was poorly chosen and the chicken died by egg-overflow
 
7:44 PM
aw
 
(no, I'm kidding)
 
@Nooble but I always octopus like banana
 
@thecoshman :P
Even more incoherent than usual, cosh.
@ElimGarak Jerry Coughin.
 
user1804599
lexeme peek() {
        auto old_begin = begin;
        BOOST_SCOPE_EXIT_ALL(&) {
                begin = old_begin;
        };
        return read();
}
 
7:46 PM
some level design on W3 likes to watch the world burn
 
Network Maintenance tomorrow night: http://stackstatus.net/post/128291132704/data-center-failover-september-3-2015
 
user1804599
Writing lexers is fun with scope guards.
 
> Writing lexers is fun
my idea of fun is totally different from yours
 
I wrote a lexer, but I didn't die of fun
 
@Borgleader what's the matter there?
 
7:48 PM
@AlexM. that fucking item is in the middle of a pile of rocks, i took me 2 min to loot it last time, but i died not far after without saving. Ive been trying to get it again for 5 min. No luck. its impossible to target T_T
its so close yet so far
 
secondary quest?
just forget it if it's secondary, there are 100000 other secondary quests to do
be careful when trying to do the gwent tournament losing actually means losing lol
you don't get another chance
 
also fuck this mage
 
no achievement, nothing
 
shes always near me and whenever i press e it trys to talk to her
instead of picking up the fucking glvoes
i wish i could tell her to stay one place
 
@Borgleader Which one?
 
7:51 PM
Keira Metz
 
Hrmmmm, I'm not sure Geralt actually fucked that one
 
Ell
Ah jesis my stomach
 
Or maybe he did? Why do I not remember this
 
I return.
 
there will soon be as many stackexchange subsites that there are original pokemons
 
@thecoshman neat, i think i saw the kickstarter for this
 
@Ell I can't install gosu :(
 
Ell
Can't? Hmm
Issues building native extensions?
 
Yeah
 
Ell
What platform are you on? And compiler
 
7:55 PM
The ruby installer is just plain simple broken on windoes
 
Ell
Oh mayun :/ it worked last time I used it
 
ruby is broken
2
 
Ell
Lemme look up some stuff
I'm on holiday in Spain ATM but I'll do my best
 
hola Ell, como estas?
 
7:56 PM
@Ell Don't worry. Enjoy you holidays :P
 
@Ell you're on holiday in spain and you're talking in this chatroom
 
Ell
@marco estoy bien, gracias, y tu?
 
you should be embarazada
 
Ell
@AlexM. Withdrawal symptoms
 
@Ell yo quiero pizza
 
Ell
7:58 PM
@Mr.kbok I'll try to package on windows when I get back
Sorry for bad platform :(
You can listen to my voice clips to entertain yourself still
 
I'll try to make it work from arch but... eh
 
@Morwenn There already was, the 16 values
 
also google is broken because gosu is also some stupid sysadmin thing
 
Ell
Linux is much asier than windows
 
however you seem to have repeated the 16 values twice on the chart :)
 
7:59 PM
@Ell It's much more broken on arch than on windows :P
 
@thecoshman It only took half a decade for an affordable screen
 
Been looking at boost::spirit::x3 and saw some strange code ... anyone know what to google for this? (sorry for the abrupt question)

x3::rule<class expression> const expression("expression");

I've never seen the class keyword used at the callsite before ...
 
@orlp It was Alternating (16 values) but the margin is not wide enough.
 

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