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12:00 PM
@sehe what is?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I think twitter would be nice for this, but I guess it depends. If some people don't have an account they surely won't bother
 
@Mr.kbok yeah, and firing up a minor web-interface for asking questions wouldn't take too much time
 
@FilipRoséen-refp or use a disposable chatroom.
 
Chatroom : IDisposable
 
Chatroom
 
12:03 PM
@TonyTheLion please do not use such language in this room, there are children around.
@Mr.kbok what's the technique used? I'm almost interested in hacks
 
good day guys. I'm trying to court someone and tomorrow i'd like to accompany her to school. What do you think should I tell her? Is it "I'll accompany tomorrow. Hope to see you" or "I'll wait for you tomorrow"? thanks
 
My mom almost caught me playing with my AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean.
 
@user3783598 "tomorrow I will kidnap you for a relatively short period of time, but you will be able to make it back to school and not miss any classes"
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Lobster not currently working on random compiler X in random language Y
 
@FilipRoséen-refp haha
 
12:08 PM
Asking for dating advice on the C++ channel
good idea
 
@sehe let's flood the tag with negative feedback!
 
Excellence
@FilipRoséen-refp No.
 
@sehe Yes!
heeeeelll yeah!
 
SELECT TOP KEK;BoltClock ♦ 18 hours ago
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I use an overload priority selector (template<int I> struct s : public s<I+1>) to create function a you can find via ADL. Those functions return an object inside which you can find a type of sizeof the same as I. Each new function is declared as tag_result<sizeof...> func(tag_param<sizeof...) so that it increases
 
12:12 PM
@Mr.kbok ah, pretty much the same approach then - I thought there was something other than the things I've thought about
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Yes, pretty much. The goal is a tad different though - afterwards, I iterate over tag values to catch some information inside the return types and assemble a tuple of types.
This way I can sprinkle information about the code and the collect it with a metafunction and get a tuple.
It's used for this at the moment but I have a few other ideas (warning: crappy code)
 
@Mr.kbok you will love the future article on reflection
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I was actually wondering when you planned on continuing the series.
 
@Mr.kbok I've been busy with life, but to get you interested - here's another approach for doing stateful meta-programming.
Yes, I'm a bloody wizard.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Well, the thing is - at work, we still use C++03 in some parts, so I try not to use contexpr.
So that the things I make at home can be useful at work.
 
12:17 PM
@Mr.kbok I have a rather elaborate implementation that works in C++03, PING me later tonight or tomorrow and I'll show it to you
time for a meeting, stay dope gangsters!
 
see ya
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A: Reach out to SQL Server team?

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you can feel the butthurt from the other side of the atlantic
 
@Mr.kbok Didn't @TonyTheLion have a butthurt form?
 
@ThePhD dunno
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Doesn't work on Clang. Bug?
 
12:29 PM
 
Please report all butthurt
 
My butthurt is in prime form
 
well good morning to that
lol
 
You're early
 
@sehe why??
 
12:35 PM
I dunno. I guess it's because people don't want to pay for certs?
I must be very very very tired! makes me laugh how ridicolous my question was — user9969 Nov 4 '10 at 17:26
lol
 
that question
those upvotes
 
@sehe What would you do with a cert that's bound to an ugly domain like that
 
Me? Nothing! <innocent-face/>
 
Unsurprisingly, Comodo promptly revoked the sslip.io wildcard certificate. http://blog.pivotal.io/labs/labs/sslip-io-a-valid-ssl-certificate-for-every-ip-address
good riddance
 
12:40 PM
Apparently it saves lives or something.
 
@sehe I don't understand why this is a problem though?
 
lol they uploaded the private key
 
@Mr.kbok It's a giant breach of trust.
 
CA is required to revoke any certificate with compromised private key
 
Lol.
 
12:43 PM
@Mr.kbok Think critically. Just because you can see mitigating factors, doesn't mean the act itself isn't promiscuous.
 
No you don't understand
I know absolutely nothing about SSL and certificates :P
 
Don't you know it cures cancer?
All cancer cells they tested this in recovered from their host
 
THe price is going to give me cancer, though.
Then again, I'm not seeing a single 5-button mouse for much cheaper (that's of similar quality and gets similar reviews)
 
@CatPlusPlus you're irc dead
 
@Mr.kbok How's that my problem :P
 
12:45 PM
People are claiming lifetimes for these mice of several years, and buy like 6 as if they're expecting some kind of optical mouse apocalypse.
 
@thecoshman you're grammar handicapping
 
Xeo
@Mr.kbok SSL certificates tell you that something is supposedly secure. Now imagine everybody can get one for free for any address they desire.
 
@Xeo https://www.allyourcash.ismine.com
 
It subverts the vetting and vouching by trust authorities
> This Domain is for Sale now!
 
Xeo
It's one of the reasons wildcard certs are so crazy expensive, I think?
 
12:47 PM
No
 
Are they?
 
The only reason wildcard certs are expensive is to discourage you from buying them
 
Xeo
Okay.
 
THIS MOUSE COMES IN STRAWBERRY
 
It's a fucking ripoff and it has nothing to do with anything
 
12:48 PM
I'M BUYING IT, I DON'T CARE HOW IT LOOKS
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Good to know
 
@ThePhD YOU GOTTA LICK IT
 
@thecoshman Droplet died again meh
I should've migrated it manually after last time
 
Xeo
@ThePhD I really like this one
 
> More expensive than the mouse people say Jesus would design
This better be great...
 
Xeo
12:50 PM
It's great for big hands
 
are we starring that
 
Xeo
nah
 
all right
 
Holy fuck, it's DIRT CHEAP for hte US
Why is this cheaper in the US than in germany???
(Accounting for price translation, it's like 10 dollars cheaper)
 
Xeo
dunno, reasons.
 
12:51 PM
Isn't computer hardware mostly cheaper in the USA?
 
Xeo
also, yeah, that
 
Well, since it's cheaper and it's backed by Xeo-chan...
 
@CatPlusPlus ah
 
@AndyProwl does it say "penis"?
 
yay for chatting over two channels at once
 
Xeo
12:52 PM
@thecoshman Dual-channel communication! That's faster, right?
 
@ThePhD you mean, Xeo-san?
 
@sehe no but it could be sort of implying it
 
Xeo-chan is like 4chan for Xeo :P
 
@sehe Depends which one of the two implies Xeo is a girl
 
assuming appropriately low level of reader maturity of course
 
12:53 PM
24 hours work left until I finally get rid of this crappy Embarcadero compiler \o/
 
@AndyProwl not hard in lounge
2
 
@sehe What @Cat said (chan implies Xeo is a girl. :D).
 
@TonyTheLion are we starring this too
I'm superbad
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Or a child. Or that we're very close, interpersonal relationship-wise
 
> Free Shipping
 
12:54 PM
does anyone here use vms?
 
@Andy is on a roll today.
 
> 5 - 8 days ;~;
My tears.
 
l should roll back to work
 
I can't wait a whole WEEK for this... but, sometimes Free Shipping ships faster than that...
Still, I REALLY need that fan...
 
unfortunately I cannot shrink my primary disk. so I will have to use VM's to run linux. any thoughts on which will get better performance? VBox or VMWare free?
 
12:55 PM
@AndyProwl I should rollback work
Literally
 
Hyper-V
 
@sehe that too
 
@JonathanMusso Have you tried an artic pool?
 
I should commit to working
 
I use VBox and it's never failed to balk on the interface/rendering parts, always more sluggish than hell itself. I tried to get Ubuntu with Hyper-V but I could never get it t work.
 
12:56 PM
@sehe LOL?
 
Your mistake is using the GUI
 
@sehe he wrote 'disk', with 's'
 
@CatPlusPlus I had to use it as a programming environment. :(
 
@Xeo too high a latency switch between the channels
 
Hyper-V I will have to take a look at this @CatPlusPlus thanks
 
12:56 PM
That is, cross-disk mounting wasn't playing nice.
"Cross-disk"
Stupid VBox Shared Folders.
 
vboxsf is garbage
Better to use CIFS
Or NFS if both of them are *nixes
 
@JonathanMusso give up.
 
it always amazes me how Cat is familiar with all technologies in the world
 
I need to learn how to develop in Windows and then dispatch solely build commands to my VM.
 
how do you do, do you index knowledge overnight
 
12:57 PM
@Mr.kbok ?
 
So I can do builds in linux. But debugging across OSes is fucking hard with gdb and it always breaks for me. =/
 
@JonathanMusso Let the dark side tempt you and just use xcode
 
@Mr.kbok lol, you don't want me to use linux eh
 
Gosh, XCode is annoying.
Been using that lately. Not a fan.
 
@JonathanMusso I just think you're trying really hard to install an OS you're not even interested in, just because it has the reputation of being good for programmers.
 
1:00 PM
@Mr.kbok nice assessment of the situation, I respect your opinion but I do have a genuine interest in learning how to use Linux more
 
get linux installed, not that hard
 
@AndyProwl I deal with dev tools and workflow improvements a lot; also system stuff
 
hardware is cheap nowadays also
 
@JonathanMusso Fair enough. If you're game, go on, but I would suggest not using a VM still
 
no it's not, installing linux wasn't the issue
 
1:01 PM
VMs is the only sane way to do development, regardless of your host OS
+ maybe containers
 
it just seems my disk is blocked on the windows partition. I don't mind wiping my os X disk and running linux on there
 
meh
 
When I make my first build server 'm gonna ask Cat about it and I'll gauge how good it is by how many "holy crap"s he says about my setup. :D
 
@CatPlusPlus I'll remind you this a couple of years later, then I'll point & laugh
 
I want to do something not computer-related today.
But I don't know what.
 
1:02 PM
@Morwenn go outside
 
Get drunk
 
VM are a pain in the arse just use native hardware
 
I want to go swimming
 
Reprovisioning native hardware is what's pain in the ass
 
1:03 PM
but I hurt my arm yesterday
 
We're not talking server here
 
@TonyTheLion I've already done that. But the weather is bad.
@CatPlusPlus Meh.
 
No, we're talking about development environments
 
Cook something new
 
@AndyProwl go swimming anyway and take the pain like a man :P
 
1:04 PM
eh, I'm afraid I would not manage
 
@JonathanMusso If you use a VM, you'll just fall back on your host OS for any "hard" task. You need to be forced to really learn :P
 
If you can't start working on the project after one command, your toolset sucks
 
What happened to your arm?
 
I must have hurt the tendon or something
 
you suck
 
1:04 PM
Too much swimming?
 
Ah, no, too much workout
 
@Mr.kbok Aye, I fully agree. This is primarily the main reason I kept using OS X..just so I can use Adobe/Autodesk products. I guess I will keep them installed on Windows and use Linux full time for my dev work.
 
I probably overused a newly bought device and/or applied to much stress
5
not sure how it's called
 
Xeo
Andy gettin' desperate
 
can't you rest your head on a life saver and just use your legs?
 
1:05 PM
you basically have to pull a set of strings
 
I fell back on a footlocker yesterday.
My head still hurts.
 
ouch
 
oh that's what that was
 
No. The leg was something else.
 
I googled 'armless swimmer' & I found plenty of results
 
1:07 PM
I know but it's not fun
I shouldn't have bought that thing
this shit:
 
you can go for a hike
 
NIIIIIIIIIIIICK!!
 
can't afford hiking, weather is non-tropical and immune system is bad
 
@AndyProwl ziiinggg
 
1:10 PM
@AndyProwl, what's the weather like where you live?
 
@KalaJ cloudy and chilly, at least for me. @thecosh would say it's horribly hot though
like, 16 degrees
atm
 
@AndyProwl oh toasty
 
16deg cel or fah? lol
 
cel
 
user1804599
> auto main() -> signed int
 
1:11 PM
oh that's not too bad weather for hiking
 
@thecoshman I couldn't pull those shitty springs so I applied too much force and arm said nope
 
just layer up
 
anything below 27 is bad for me
can't sweat when it's not superhot
 
@AndyProwl ow
 
ok
 
1:12 PM
@AndyProwl oh my bad
 
I went hiking yesterday in 84deg Fah weather and it was hot but nice :)
 
I'll do some more workout at home that doesn't involve the right arm DON'T STAR THIS
6
 
Not a terribly long hike though
 
@elyse Ah. I prefer just signed main()
@AndyProwl Noise Troj
 
user1804599
My compiler generates it. :3
 
1:13 PM
@AndyProwl oh, you're left handed?
 
hiking is nice but I prefer high-intensity activity
@thecoshman lol
 
hello my pritty litel flovvers
 
hello butte master
 
@ThePhD I don't know. I admit I haven't put much thought into it.
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I'll have to ask @Rapptz sometime.
 
1:18 PM
I'm so not used to W10 having virtual desktops I forget they exist
 
u suck
 
Only took MS 15 years
 
lol, virtual desktops, aka I can't afford screens
 
Buy moar displays
 
It's a laptop you bloke
 
Xeo
1:19 PM
@thecoshman No.
 
you can still buy more displays
 
lol, laptop
 
If you have more screens then you have more virtual desktops, so it all works out.
 
not this conversation again
 
I never got on with virtual desktops with multiple screens
 
1:19 PM
TABS VS SPACES EVERYONE
 
tabs
 
graves, clearly
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Borgleader slaps you with a big large trout
 
"I indent only with Unicode ZWSP"
 
Harding in Lounge City.
 
1:23 PM
Let's try something new
DX12 VS VULKAN EVERYONE
 
GOOD TECHNIQUE VS GIRTH
 
DOMAGOJ VS LARGE TRUCK
 
curiousguy vs sino
 
Sino is now admin.
 
My feet vs. your sockets.
 
1:27 PM
socks?
 
WebSockets
 
WebFeet
 
Sounds like a porn category
 
#IRCmasterrace
 
1:28 PM
@sehe Fuck that
 
Good morning.
 
Mawning, youngster
 
@Nooble morning.
 
Nooble vs Trump
 
Nooble2016
 
1:29 PM
@ElimGarak Makes me suddenly not neutral anymore to motions to remove blasphemy and "lese majesty" (?) from out countries law....
 
I am sick and tired of poorly worded, utterly vague laws which can be turned against anyone at a whim's notice.
 
> at a whim's notice
rhetorics in a nutshell
 
@sehe You’ve committed lèse-majesté against French etymology.
 
Right to blasphemy is fundamental in a free society
 
Did you see the Quebec law?
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva heresy!
 
1:31 PM
@ElimGarak stop potentially infringing on my hypothetical rights!
 
> In 2008, Lebuis filed a complaint against an Imam whose writings lauded beheading and exterminating homosexuals, denigrated Jews, and called for violent jihad in any place Muslims had the power to overthrow non-Muslim rule.

The Human Rights Commission declined to hear the case.
lol
 
Yes, offending religious people is one of the reasons I enjoy life.
 
Sometimes I feel like we're going backwards in time
Right to blasphemy has been painfully acquired and now they want to get rid of it
 
user1804599
this project is getting boring and shitty and I have no tests
 
What next, women's vote?
 
1:33 PM
@sehe The core issue of that is how vague the thing is.
 
user1804599
but now it can turn this into this!
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Only if they are honourable! (i.e. cover face and body etc.)
 
@EtiennedeMartel ohai
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm stunned
 
But it's just another instance of the Western War on Radical Islam.
 
1:35 PM
The inverse?
 
@ElimGarak Ok so tonemapping is a go... what should I do next? GBuffer? Post effects?
 
No, really. The bill is badly written, but in the end the reason why the government felt the need to push it despite the pretty extensive set of hate speech laws we already have is that they feel they can score political points on the fears of the general population for this thing called "radicalization".
 
@Borgleader Shoooow uuuuss.
 
@EtiennedeMartel well. I believe it will backfire sooner
 
Oh, don't worry, everyone here dislikes the bill.
Or, at least, everyone who knows what they're talking about.
 
1:38 PM
Because endlessly forbidding everything is a solution to all problems.
 
inb4 sparkling bjarne
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh haï Mark Marty.
 
They should forbid taxes, because than there won't be tax evaders anymore. Oh wait....
 
The one thing that should be forbidden is politicians
 
1:43 PM
The one thing that should be forbidden is edgy political jokes about how politics is shit.
 
@ThePhD In order: none, linear, reinhard approx, uncharted 2
 
> Error (undefined method `name' for nil:NilClass):
Best error.
Fuck this dynamic bullshit.
 
user1804599
class NilClass
    def name; end
end
 
user1804599
Problem solved.
 
@Borgleader I don't get it, but it looks shiny.
 
1:45 PM
And it's ungoogleable because it can be anything.
ARGH
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What are you doing? Ruby?
 
@ThePhD Look at this article
 
Using shit written in Ruby.
Redmine this time.
 
1:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes shit written in ruby is redundant ;)
 
What should I do with it? Delete it?
 
nah leave it there
 
I'd delete it.
 
@Borgleader The most natural extension of your current work would be post processing, as you have an "HDR pipeline" now, which naturally can extend to stuff like bloom.
 
@Borgleader It's not even a good question.
 
1:48 PM
oh god I had forgotten Stephen Cleary's profile
 
@Borgleader I'll have to open the high-res ones to see the difference, but it sort of looks okay I guess!
 
Convolving the results of a high pass with a variable size Gaussian kernel (or multiple ones), or even a simple box filter (downsampling and rescaling).
 
@EtiennedeMartel 5 years ago it probably fit SO's criteria for "good question" just leave it. I dont see the point of deleting an positive rep answer on a 5 year old question.
 
@Borgleader Because the answer right above it is slightly better and I don't feel like updating mine.
 
template<typename T>
struct smooth {
	char contents[sizeof T];
	smooth() : contents() { new (contents)T(); }
	~smooth() { reinterpret_cast<T*>(contents)->~T(); }
	operator T&() {	return *reinterpret_cast<T*>(contents);	}
};
100% not kosher, but it works
 
1:50 PM
Fail, misaligned.
 
std::aligned_storage
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know right
OTOH it's a workaround for an ancient VC so
 
@Mr.kbok why is it called smooth?
 
VC has enough problems with misalignment as is.
 
1:51 PM
How would you align it?
 
union { T t; char contents[sizeof T]; };
 
@Borgleader It sets the memory storage to zero before constructing the object. It's a workaround for VC not zeroing objects.
 
Or union { double d; char contents[sizeof T]; };
Replace double with some SIMD type if you want, but SIMD types have issues anyway.
Did you know parameter passing is broken in Visual C++?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Eww sizeof without parens.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how?
 
1:53 PM
It doesn't respect alignment.
 
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A: Error:403 response for Boost HTTPS GET request

seheThe "three-digit mess" is what's commonly referred to as "a number". In this case, the number is HTTP Status Code of the webserver's response. If you read up on "HTTP" and perhaps even that HTTP response code, you'll find that it means Forbidden: A web server may return a 403 Forbidden HTTP ...

Lol. Too snarky?
 
void f(type_more_aligned_than_double); is a recipe for brokenness.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wth
> As i am a very beginner to Boost::asio can anyone help to get rid of this 3 digit mess "403":(
I mean, come on
 
@sehe It's true. We used to hit that all the time until I swept the codebase with workarounds.
 
How?
 
1:55 PM
Hit it again last week.
 
Indirect passing?
 
So, yesterday I finally watched Ghost in the Shell.
 
@sehe There's some official Eigen workaround. Don't exactly remember it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel was it good?
 
yo
 
1:57 PM
IOW fuck MSVC
 
yo @coincoin
 
@Javia1492 Pretty much, yeah.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The movie or you started watching the series?
 
@Borgleader The movie.
 
@LucDanton J'ai une blague, tu veux l'entendre ?
 
1:58 PM
vas-y
 
hello @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva you have a profile which incites to stalking
en plus ça parle fr !
 
@LucDanton 3x² + 2x + 5
 
Where can i get some good knowledge on higher-level C++ development?
 
Xeo
Fuck. I just cut myself on a piece of ice, basically. Reaching Robot levels here.
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