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7:00 PM
funeral
 
@jaggedSpire Your catface won. I'm registered for 7 classes. I hope you're happy.
 
@Borgleader I want this at my funeral.
 
Imperial March best march
 
7:01 PM
why would it overwrite a non-move or non-copy assignment operator?
 
@OvaisReza Please read the rules before doing anything rash! Keep your hands away from Control and V.
 
@Prismatic Because they have the same name. Therefore, it can't reasonably import the ones from the base classes without potentially introducing ambiguity: so, it leaves it to you.
 
They dont have the same name if they have different arguments?
 
7:02 PM
@Prismatic There's only 1 argument for operator=.
And it will mess with overload resolution.
It doesn't matter if the types and conversions cover disjoint sets of types. All that matters is it has the same name, much like if someone derives a class B from A and they both have foo methods. B's foo overrides A's foo.
 
So, I open my notebook at a random page. I derive some equations for the stuff I am working on and I feel satisfied, close the 'book to listen to some Interstellar stuff. And now I can't find on which page the shit is.
 
@Borgleader also used to be the ringtone for my other half
 
Ah, I opened the notebook while it was upside down. Ha.
 
@ElimGarak :,)
Motherfucking onions
5
 
Damn straight
 
7:06 PM
I love that tune so much.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I didnt pick that one randomly, I reponded to Funeral March with Imperial March =/
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ House is full of ninjas cutting onions :(
 
I want Terrafractyl's psymphony in F minor at my funeral.
 
Yeah, it's so annoying
 
@ThePhD oh yeah its called name hiding or something right
 
@Prismatic Probably. Not a clue.
 
7:08 PM
@Prismatic Shadowing, IIRC
 
-Wshadow is probably one of the most annoying warnings ever.
 
@Morwenn especially now VS2015 works if the names you use in a header shadow members of a type
 
Go, Rust! Get that serial killer.
 
@Morwenn Imagine Javaers and C#pers which have this by default, and also it's an error!
 
7:10 PM
@milleniumbug Not sure I even want to imagine.
On the other hand, you know which names you're importing.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak ?
 
@Lalaland True Detective, man!
(season 1, the only season as far as I am concerned)
 
@ElimGarak eh
 
return var ? var : backup vs if(!var) var = backup; return var;
Which one is better?
(both var and backup are fundamental types)
 
follow the conventions of whatever you're working on
 
7:18 PM
the first one
 
@OMGtechy I am the convention
3
@milleniumbug Thanks
 
in which case, first one
 
the second requires modifying variables, which means they can't be const
 
The first one is clear enough. Ternary conditionals are not always bad.
 
And NRVO doesn't even matter with fundamentals, I guess
 
7:20 PM
I don't give a shit about that
 
Or would it get invoked anyway?
 
Trust your compiler.
 
I meant, even if they were std::vectors, I wouldn't care
 
@Morwenn Yes, my cimpoler was formad well
Does your cimpoler have pretty error logging, @elyse?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
7:25 PM
It throws an exception and the JVM shows a stack trace.
 
> CComBSTR supports move semantics. You can use the move constructor (the constructor that takes an rvalue reference (&&) to create a new object that uses the same underlying data as the old object you pass in as an argument, without the overhead of copying the object.
Wut.
 
Can be rewritten as:
> CComBSTR supports move semantics.
Maybe with a note, that it's a C++11 feature
 
user406009
@набиячлевэлиь Why not just if (var) return var; else return backup;
 
@Lalaland It's like a ternary but longer and uglier
 
7:42 PM
So I posted this question asking about an issue I was having with CMake. But it is getting a couple downvotes. I assume that this is because it has a common name and people are just assuming that it is a duplicate and I didn't look at any of the other questions. But I did, I looked at the first page-ish of SO questions and the answers did not help. Can you guys see anything else wrong with my question?
 
> >CMake
> >"What's wrong with my question?"
 
Ha ha
 
get out nabijacz
 
@milleniumbug I did nuthin'!
 
user406009
@NoahHuppert Hmm, I can't see anything wrong with it. Anyone have any other comments?
 
7:44 PM
The big-ass links
 
No, just Tsyvarev who is being awesome and helping me
 
the problem is that a.) the code is not in question, therefore the question stops being valid after the issue is resolved or the repo is removed. b.) the "unresolved reference" is quite a common issue, which prompts some people to automatic downvoting (it's interpreted as lack of research)
assuming the code is correct (and it is, given we have link errors), there should be no problem is pasting the code into the question
 
user406009
@NoahHuppert meta.stackexchange is the formal place to ask why a question or answer was downvoted.
 
at the very least, paste your CMakeList.txt into the question (remember about formatting of course)
 
@milleniumbug pastes 60 200SLOC files into question
 
7:49 PM
Thanks milleniumbug, Right now I am linking to specific commits in the git repo but I guess I could put the cmake file in the question. And yea I could see how someone would assume that I didn't do any research
 
@набиячлевэлиь I looked at the repo, the code is 200 loc. Pasting the code itself is not an issue. (see above)
 
@milleniumbug I was hoping my hyperbole would be more obvious
 
@набиячлевэлиь Also, don't forget it's not "help me debug the code"
You don't need to look at it
@NoahHuppert nabijacz highlights an important issue: if your issue is with linking, then you don't need to paste your entire project there, only do a simple main() with a single call to library.
IOW SSCCE
 
K, So I made the links smaller. And pasted the actual text of my CMakeLists.txt file and the relevant part of my build log
@Lalaland Always wondered when it was appropriate to use meta. Cool.
 
if you can reproduce the issue with a simple #include <whatever.h> int main() { /* call a function from the library */ } then don't bother pasting the entire file into the question.
 
7:55 PM
@Lalaland You got him :P
 
user406009
@NathanOliver Don't actually ask on meta. You will just piss people off. I should have included a \s.
 
user406009
Sarcasm over the internet: Never again.
 
ha ha
 
so, Lounge<C++> is helping a non-regular with something? whoa.. I must be losing my mind
 
user406009
I think we need to change the rules here.
 
user406009
7:59 PM
People should be free to ask questions.
 
Note: I'm going to start starring every message with profanity in it, just to piss off that one individual who flags every little piece of shit in here.
 
lounge<altruism>
 
I'm helping people once in a while
 
@FilipRoséen-refp star spam is nearly as annoying at flag spam
 
so do I.. I was just going down the old "this place is not for asking help but we do it sometimes"-road
 
8:00 PM
so please dont
 
The guy and the guy's question was quite reasonable
 
@Borgleader you don't control me!
 
Ok also added a 10 line example that reproduces the error
 
@FilipRoséen-refp s/start/fucking start/
 
*runs around yelling profanities*
 
8:01 PM
Heya, I just thought this question was way too vague and small for a full stackoverflow question and figured someone here might know, I'm looking for a library I forgot the name of, it was something something more features for C/C++ in library form, anyone happen to know?
 
@Borgleader More, because everybody sees it
@LaylConway Boost (google it)
 
Boobst
3
 
user406009
Boost
 
It wasn't boost, more language features-ish things
 
this must be the first time where I post a message and people take it seriously
 
user406009
8:02 PM
@LaylConway Boost for C++. GLIB for C.
 
iirc it was severe template/#define abuse
 
You let in one non-reg with a question, you get swarmed.
 
then again, boost IS severe template abuse
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Nah, you just ignore them. The JavaScript handles it perfectly.
 
user406009
Without anarchy.
 
8:03 PM
@LaylConway /cc @sehe
 
@NoahHuppert Excellent. +1 (I'm out of things to complain about)
 
Yay!
 
apparently the articles at b.atch.se is going to be translated into russian, and published somewhere.. makes me feel kinda sad that I haven't had time to work with the future articles
but.. hey, russian!
 
@Lalaland "Perfectly" - with Panzerschrecks and MP44s
What's a "secure" random file name length?
 
@ElimGarak Meh, it's not like they recommend each other to ask here.
It's more like if you let a badlet ask a question multiple times, then he will repeat this action if he'll get a response
 
user406009
8:06 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Does it matter? What do you even need the temporary files for?
 
user406009
@milleniumbug Then you just ignore them.
 
OTOH if you are dealing with a troll, actually fighting him will provoke him more
 
user406009
Ignoring is the solution.
 
@Lalaland Passing them to something, that ignores stdin
 
user406009
@набиячлевэлиь Ah, those fun times.
 
8:07 PM
Sure, I plonk obnoxious people. Sadly, if someone talks to them, it breaks the flow since I can't see all the context.
 
user406009
7 random characters should be enough.
 
user406009
7 is a good number.
 
@milleniumbug So here's a reply, just to annoy anybody who might have you plonked... :-)
 
@Lalaland What shouldn't I have posted in meta?
 
user406009
@NoahHuppert Nothing.
 
8:08 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Get an ostream wrapper for FILE* and use tmpfile
 
user406009
Complaints about down-votes don't do well in meta.
 
@milleniumbug ...which explodes on libstdc++ under Windows
 
user406009
@milleniumbug I don't think std::tmpfile provides a name.
 
Using tmpnam is sure way to get TOCTTOU issues
 
user406009
@набиячлевэлиь needs a file with a name.
 
8:09 PM
@Lalaland Where did I do that? Were you trying to ping a different user?
 
I've been over that (tempfiles) before with sehe and I've reached a conclusion; therefore the topic of using tempfiles (and tmp*() functions) is closed for now
 
user406009
@NathanOliver No you aren't. I'm just saying if you posted a meta question titled "People downvoted me. Why?" you might get a negative response.
 
@NathanOliver Yes, he is
 
@NathanOliver He was plinking Noah, not you
 
user406009
8:12 PM
Oh. Oops.
 
user406009
Now I feel like a fool.
 
@Noah-Huppert
I got the message
 
@NoahHuppert no dash
 
I wonder if I can figure myself, @NoahHuppert
nope
 
@milleniumbug Ping myself
 
8:15 PM
what.
 
what what
 
@NoahHuppert
 
Some crawler just exploded from cyclic references
 
Are only ping messages removed?
 
@NoahHuppert yes
ITT Lounge == /1/sandbox
 
8:18 PM
Does the Haskell type-system prevent the possibility of race conditions (in threaded haskell code)?
 
user457812
8:35 PM
Probably not because you can't have race conditions in theory because threads are a computer concept and Haskell is a fever dream.
 
Interesting question
 
pushing and popping all night long.
 
@milleniumbug That clears up some confusion.
 
@AlexM. god damnit, i havent played gwent at all so far and now this quest i need to play a game of it, and the stupid tutorial is like "hey lets skip the mulligan step shall we?" fu, let me mulligan
 
8:37 PM
anyone up for some sc2
 
I wanted to try Gwent, but i didn't feel like learning its rules. So I went to a brothel.
 
also what about jam voting
also what about jam on wiki
 
sup Scott <3
 
@BartekBanachewicz Even though I know that is Starcraft 2 my brain immediately made the weird acronym of "Source Control 2"
 
@ElimGarak Gwint is complex, m8
Brothel is a good second choice
 
8:42 PM
wat
ah
 
Welp, fuck this gwent tutorial mode, i guess the guy will just die
oh well
 
it finally happened
pokemon on android and ios
 
pokemoooooony, walą z każdej strony
 
please speak american
 
@milleniumbug why the comma?
@Prismatic britiush four liufe
 
user406009
8:48 PM
@StackedCrooked you can create race conditions in any language. Haskell does have some neat tools for doing transactions though.
 
> A game that requires you to actually leave your house. Well played Nintendo, well played
 
I think I'm addicted to lambdas
 
user406009
Clojure's atoms are a good, less verbose example, of what Haskell can do.
 
@Jeremy ingress x pokemon sounds pretty cool
 
@набиячлевэлиь it's a pause-comma
 
8:51 PM
I did nuthin'!
 
it has a phallic reference
 
@Prismatic Not really, no Oh god the mental image
 
:25630987 Because you objected :/
 
user406009
@Prismatic That's merely the first step of turning into Bartek.
 
user406009
@ScottW what's wrong with Clojure?
 
8:52 PM
Clojure. :P
 
user406009
Other than dynamic typing.
 
it's fine, really
the other usable lisp is Common Lisp
yeah, it's lisp on JVM, BUT ON STEROIDS
 
Hawaii Five-0. Such a fun show.
The new one, I have a hard time with ancient stuff. The only oldie I liked was Miami Vice.
 

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