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10:00 AM
@Morwenn eat more cock
 
@Morwenn yeah but eating is the key. Fruit juice for example is a different story. Fruit contains fibers which is good, Juice does not.
 
@thecoshman of course diet by itself isn't enough, but exercise by itself also isn't enough
you need both
well not you
I do
in fact I believe most people do if they want to look good
 
I should learn how to love cooking and then I would likely eat more reasonable stuff.
 
@AndyProwl depends on the definition of "look good" :-) Soft hips and a round belly has been and is an ideal of beauty in man cultures ;-)
 
@ArneMertz let's turn pedantic mode off shall we :P
@Morwenn the thing is, for me, the more I cook the less I feel like eating that stuff
 
10:03 AM
@AndyProwl hmkay..
 
I mostly like cooking for others
 
@Morwenn start by making nachos or tacos or anything 'mexican'
 
@thecoshman It's true that it's a bit lacking in my diet.
 
@ArneMertz (just kidding, this is the lounge, you can't turn pedantic mode off)
 
@thecoshman Meh.
 
10:03 AM
@Morwenn I have plateful for you
 
@Morwenn Or you'll end up like those Epic Meal Time guys. BURGER LASAGNA PEOPLE
 
@AndyProwl When I got the money to buy whichever food I wanted, then suddenly, almost everything lost its appeal.
 
@Morwenn I want to have that trait
When I got the money to buy whichever food I wanted, then suddenly, I have all the food I wanted and no money
 
@Mr.kbok I'm more than stuffed with a kebab, so I should be okay...
@AndyProwl Haha xD
 
well unless I refrain from following instinct of course
 
10:05 AM
@Morwenn like... donna kebabs?
 
which is what I have to do daily
 
@AndyProwl But, no, you probably don't really want that trait. More than half of the time, eating isn't even a pleasure anymore for me...
 
I wonder if that won't make my stress level too high long-term
 
@thecoshman Yeah, that.
 
speaking of food... time for lunch :-)
 
10:05 AM
@AndyProwl just embrace the fatness
@Morwenn but donna kebabs are made of rot and skank... I'm full before I even buy one of those
 
@thecoshman "On some pacific island I'd be beauty king..." ;-)
 
@thecoshman eventually I will
not giving up yet though
 
@thecoshman You probably live in the wrong place.
 
if I could do sports during winter it would be much easier
 
@Mr.kbok yeah
 
10:07 AM
@AndyProwl there's lots of indoor sports...
 
@ArneMertz yeah, but in general I have problems with those too
hope I'll be able to keep swimming
 
@Morwenn inter-stellar travel is still a bit too much for me
 
I like climbing/bouldering. The more weight I put on, the more training I get :P
 
@AndyProwl don't you have insides?
 
@thecoshman yeah
 
10:08 AM
... ok then, moving on
 
but my immune system is a joke so if I move from a warm environment to a cold one, especially after training, I'm very likely to catch a flu
which in winter is like every month
 
@AndyProwl managed to get fat since the first/last time I saw him? What a feat!
 
YOU DON'T GET FLU FROM JUST BEING COLD!
that said, going from hot to cold and back again often is not healthy in and of itself
 
@thecoshman you don't
you bet I do
 
you get flu from dirty people who should be locked away
 
10:10 AM
also during autumn/winter there are more bacteria or viruses in the air and shit so I get sick easier
 
sure, but that is not because you are physically cold
 
@wilx eh, I was overweight already when we met. Now I'm a bit leaner, lost 4-5 kg, but it will come back
 
@AndyProwl Overweight? Really?
 
@thecoshman that too, this is 100% reproducible with me
I start feeling a sore throat after being cold for 5 minutes
@wilx not heavily but yes
I'm 1.75, my ideal weight should be something like 68 kg
 
@AndyProwl you're a fucking hypochondriac is what you are
I have no idea how heavy I actually am :\
 
10:14 AM
I'm 1.64 and ~55 kg (but my scale has been broken for months). So... I'm near my ideal weight.
 
@thecoshman lol, that's actually quite true but several doctors acknowledged the problem
I mean, with getting sick and bad immunity, not with being hypocondriac
 
I think the main thing that keeps me from ballooning up is that I'm a frigidity sort of person, you know, tapping feat and what not. It's only tiny things, but I think it adds up
 
@Morwenn I wouldn't call a ton of difference "near".
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva How do you consider it a ton of difference?
From the usual graphs, I should be between 50 kg and 65 kg. So... I'm fine.
 
10:19 AM
ton or tonne?
 
I don't understand.
 
metric or imperial (master race)... or vice versa
 
I have no idea what my weight is. Hmm.
 
I have a library with loads of function objects. Is it a good idea to make them convertible to function pointers?
 
10:24 AM
I am one tcm heavy
as well as one tcm tall
@Morwenn yeah! function pointers ftw!
 
@Morwenn why?
 
The advantage I see is that it makes it possible to store them into arrays of function pointers.
 
you can use std::function
 
I can, but the function objects already rely on functions, so it wouldn't cost me much to implement that.
 
I'm not sure I understand
 
10:28 AM
sounds like bad logic based on bad logic
 
I keep getting up at ungodly early times.
 
oh look time for food
 
I think I've caught @Xeo syndrome. Send help.
 
I mean: my function objects are mere wrappers around other function, so offering to access the original (detail) function with a cast would make sense.
Well, I will try it and drop the idea if it appears to suck too much.
 
Xeo
@ThePhD I kinda overslept today :s
I was up till 4am
 
10:29 AM
Let's trade.
 
Xeo
woke up before 8am and actually felt awake
 
I want to oversleep.
 
Xeo
But decided to try and sleep a bit longer
 
6:30 :\ so I could have a shower
 
Xeo
in the end I got up around 9:20
still not much sleep :s
 
10:31 AM
I don't sleep well any more :\
 
Xeo
I sleep pretty well, unless my cats make a ruckus
 
@chmod711telkitty Aww!
 
Yay, document number for my proposal.
 
@Morwenn it'll be shit
 
10:37 AM
Oddly enough, the document numbering scheme changed.
 
> Must include at least one of: 420, 69, lmao, blazeit, ayyy
3
 
@chmod711telkitty Is that a cat raping a child
 
@thecoshman You're so nice :3
 
@Morwenn law of the lounge, if it's a thing, it's shit
 
@thecoshman It's not a thing yet
 
10:45 AM
So it's only almost shit.
WIPSHIT
 
@набиячлевэлиь it's a concept, thus a thing, this shit
 
morning
Oh wait, good afternoon!
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva do you prefer this instead?
 
11:09 AM
anyone here used the Cinder library before?
 
Andy, Bartek
maybe others
 
it looks good, I'm just interested in secondary opinions from people who have used the library.
 
> The latest version is v. 0.8.6, released on August 7, 2014.
Ouch
 
and I have VS 2010. :(
 
> We make use of the exceptional Boost libraries to fill in any gaps, and always favor techniques built on features which are currently or soon will be standard C++ (such as std::thread or std::shared_ptr).
Double ouch (this implies pre-C++11)
 
11:14 AM
@edition Very briefly, before getting frustrated by how games dev library are usually kinda primitive when it comes to exception-safety
 
s/when it .*//
 
 
why do library developers release versions for Windows, based on VS IDE versions?
 
Because the only bad IDE for Windows is VS
 
1574
Q: Warlords of Documentation: A Proposed Expansion of Stack Overflow

Kevin MontroseIt’s been 7 years and 10,000,000+ Questions since Stack Overflow was launched. The amount of good that has been done for the field - all the developers helped, all the person-hours saved, all the beginners who grew into professionals - is hard to overstate. I cannot express how proud I am of what...

 
11:26 AM
> 1574
 
user1804599
@ThePhD fun
 
user1804599
Speaking of which, I'm gonna implement a code generator today.
 
user1804599
And maybe start on attributes and the API documentation extractor.
 
-2
A: Warlords of Documentation: A Proposed Expansion of Stack Overflow

TrismegistosIf devs doesn't pay attention to quality of their product such product should die. Creating some additional documentation which Company does not pay for is encuraging to repeat such practices in the future.

 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ close as too localized
 
11:33 AM
292
Q: What Experts-Exchange thinks of Stack Overflow

Adam RackisAfter noticing a $10 Experts-Exchange (EE) fee on my credit card, I realized I've had an idle EE account for quite a few years. I sent them an email asking for instructions on how to close it, and mentioned that they were great, but that they couldn't compete with Stack Overflow (which is true; I...

ha ha
 
user1804599
expert sexchange
 
IANAL, but we're not talking about republishing existing docs. Writing up windbg docs on Stack Overflow would be no different than, say, writing a blog post detailing how to accomplish a particular debugging task, which is perfectly legal. — Anna Lear ♦ Aug 31 at 22:37
> IANAL
Wokay
There's even an acronym for "I Am Not A Lawyer". What the fuck internet.
 
I, too, anal.
 
I'm all in for this new snackdoc thingy
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Exactly, that's what i read
 
11:45 AM
Can't wait to hear Cat about this
 
maybe the content within documentation pages on SO should be moved to the left a bit.
 
@edition Great read, BTW
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ lol
 
About what
 
11:55 AM
Yeah, so? What about it
 
pff
how am I ever going to choose a graphics card for my next computer
looking at quadro vs geforce, general consensus: "quadro is better for 3d modelling, geforce better for gaming". - Guess what I do both equally, I study aerospace engineering (so got to design next boeing :P), but play games in my spare time.
 
@paul23 get 2 computers!
 
choose a "mainstream" GPU if it's desktop comp
 
@HamZa Like I have the money
 
@paul23 Don't get a quadro, it's pointless
 
12:02 PM
I need a mobile desktop for my uni coincoin
 
less expensive and it should be fairly enough for your needs
 
"minimum requirements' from my university are a 1000 euro laptop ;P
Don't really have the money left over then to buy a desktop
 
what kind of 3d modelling u ll do ?
 
@paul23 I knew it, the netherlands...
 
1000 euro laptop? I don't think so
 
12:02 PM
@HamZa ?
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Appol
 
Nick l'appol ice
 
CATIA coincoin, like model the fluid system in a delphi c3 sattelite (for temperature maintenance)
 
That doesn't require a supercalculator
 
@paul23 Deja vu, my brother attended a certain university and they required a 1K euro laptop. At the end, he only needed to use if for some basic math programs, sql...
 
12:03 PM
Ok I really think a good Geforce would be enough
 
Quadro K1100M is supposedly be the minimum requirement.
 
GPUs computing power are increasing much
 
> Buy €1000 laptop
 
and we were using CATIA long time ago
 
12:04 PM
> Install Dev-C++
 
Don't buy a Quadro you won't use a fraction of its power and features
 
nowadays GPUs overkill 10 years best quadro GPUs
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva What would you buy?
 
I wonder why the uni keeps using it then though.
 
@Mr.kbok For gaming or programming?
 
12:05 PM
The laptop also has an 256GB(!!!!) ssd hdd.
 
Wow 256GB
 
That kind of shocked me, thinking "how the hell am I supposed to game on that".
 
How much RAM memory does it have
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Photoshop
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva But @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva, memory IS RAM
 
12:06 PM
lol
 
intranet.tudelft.nl/directe-links/servicepunt/… (right column is what my studies requires for the master)
 
@paul23 only SSD? Or does it also have HDD ?
 
nah hamza, just an ssd
8 GB ram
 
lol
 
12:07 PM
no hotlinking
 
It says image not found here
 
@paul23 screw that. I would try to find a laptop which has 2 slots. I found one with a 500GB HDD and then I used my old SSD along side
 
best argument ever "kbok, no hotlinking!!"
 
But what about the SSD HDD
 
@HamZa Hmm I"m trying to find a similar laptop
 
12:08 PM
You have to hotlink youtube dummy
 
@paul23 it's market segmentation. I think one of the real reason you would take a quadro is for the floating precision
Geforce double is not ieee compliant I think for instance
 
But really hard to find "similar" in graphics card/CPU performance. Well at least CPU you can easily check benchmarks. But the graphics card is just impossible to decipher.
 
so for numerical computing it can be quite bothersome
 
It floats exactly where you want it to float
 
There's one thing though: I know that above laptop (from friends) doesn't overheat. And I know many many high end laptops are prone to overheating aver a year or two...
 
12:10 PM
I got this one https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/N750JK/
Note that I don't game at all. It has 2 slots for harddrives. The only downside it has only 2 slots for RAM. I expected 4 :(
 
Well I currently own an HP elitbook 8530w. (Go look it up if you want a laugh)
 
@coincoin It is but you have to ask for it, IIRC.
 
@paul23 is it your first year at the uni?
 
Quadro has ECC memory and more double FPUs
 
12:13 PM
@HamZa 7t
*7th
But first year starting my MSc
 
user1804599
> Qatar offers Syrian refugees job in stadium construction
4
 
nottheonion.com
 
I see. Good luck finding the right laptop
 
And it's time (see above) to buy a new laptop
 
user1804599
 
12:15 PM
speld...
 
lol
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Монгол Бүсгүй
 
Mohron Bycryn
 
Still wondering: what exactly makes a quadro faster for 3d CAD. - yet not for games. What is the difference between a large 3d CAD model and a complicated game (for a graphics card)?
 
Good idea btw I'll update my profile
> C++ software engineer from Ulanbataar.
credibility ensued
but then it doesn't match with the name :s
 
12:20 PM
Ulanbuttaar
 
@elyse lol
 
Hello my name is Molotov and my character is quite explosive
 
sex bomb
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva It seems your name is literally "Moron"
 
It probably is
 
12:22 PM
Hello my name is Moron IT'S ASIAN OKAY
 
user1804599
> This website abuses cookies.
Cookies make it easier for us to read your mind.
According to the NSA this information will not be shared with third parties.
By using this website you accept cookies the way they are.
 
Yes cookie I love you the way you are
 
Why do you have to sexualize everything
 
It's keming I swear
 
12:23 PM
BTW @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva, coincoin won't stop raving how hot you are
 
Yeah he was in love with one of my previous avatars too IIRC
 
MaiLongDong? Yeah he's a handsome young man
 
mmm actually no, it was butti, which wasn't that sexy
 
The butterfly?
 
12:25 PM
Well you know, whatever floats your boat
 
Whatever 1.0000000003f your boat
 
that's a double
 
Time to work on my extremely secret OpenCL library that I will not talk about
 
whatever doubles your boat
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Can you talk about it?
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva tell us more
what exactly can we not know?
 
user406009
12:31 PM
It's a probably a library to help @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva spam flags.
 
That was the flag spammer we've been looking for all this time
Torches and pitchforks
 
Posted another answer that does the "enhanced AST" approach. See the recorded livestream in case you're interested in how I go about these answers. (experiment) — sehe 1 min ago
Did you all miss it /cc @elyse
Time for lunch
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
user1804599
You didn't announce it here.
 
Splendid. Uninformed edits: stackoverflow.com/questions/8343676/…
@elyse I don't wanna. I prefer to let people choose actually. I think LCTV has some kind of notification feature
 
user1804599
12:37 PM
oh
 
Worst edit I've seen in a while.
 
@paul23 for a 3D CAD model you might need precision you do not need in 3D Game. So a quadro is not necesserily faster but the precision performance is better
 
Hmm ok, and apparently (reading previous link you posted) wireframe (and double sided polys) models require special attention
So checked some price comparison sites - and now already down to 30 laptops that are for sale in the netherlands.
 
yes I m not sure whether the wireframe stuff is still true
 
lol people using elaborated type specifiers
 
12:46 PM
with new OpenGL
but since CATIA is old code ...
 
I think for such a high cost buy I prefer to not ship things using Amazon or something. Warranty etc is easier that way.
(I have not ever bought a laptop that did not break before warranty was over)
 
Are they destined for students ?
 
In some way
Nah now looking just at generic price watches
Quite often my laptop hard drive seems to fail after a year or something like that.
 
@coincoin No, you cannot shoot at them from a Panzershreck hoping for them to survive
 
Though an SSD (or even 7200 RPM) is not something a lot of laptops have.
 

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