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7:01 PM
@DonLarynx it makes sense if x[y] is literally defined as *(x+y), but it doesn't make any sense for this to make sense. Am I making any sense?
 
@melak47 Let's find a way to overload operator*
 
(whisper) What is life's greatest illusion?
 
@melak47 it's really difficult.
@набиячлевэлиь your mom's slenderness
 
@набиячлевэлиь Innocence, my brother.
2
 
@ElimGarak Actually this is a good one.
 
7:04 PM
The Dark Brotherhood, Elder Scrolls.
 
@ElimGarak Sssssh
 
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Sexist.
 
Men are clearly not innocent lol
 
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1> [exit(Pid, kill) || Pid <- processes()].

Crash dump is being written to: erl_crash.dump...System process <0.0.0> terminated: killed


Abnormal termination
 
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7:08 PM
Erlang y u no fault-tolerant.
 
Blood mother, sweet mother send your child unto me...
 
@ScottW hehe, I recognize that
 
@набиячлевэлиь For the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear!
 
Or something like that.
 
7:15 PM
I thought that was sin
 
'twas a long time since 2011.
 
@DonLarynx That's quite the sweeping generalization you got there. Also, what does "innocent" means there?
 
@EtiennedeMartel it means women won't have sex.
 
@elyse got that from an easier source?
 
user1804599
no
 
7:16 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Forsooth, 'twas an audacious statement. Caused a deplorable calamity in the Lounge.
 
:(
 
@DonLarynx Women have sex regularly.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Thanks for agreeing with me. Others don't know this.
 
@ScottW Actually, no, its probably a cover then by a band I listen to
also its probably not a cover, just ignore me
 
7:18 PM
Although, there's this weird assumption that women never give sex, they only receive it. Like, they never take the initiative, they never seek it, they only begrudgingly accept requests from men.
 
that would be a super boring sex life
 
With the underlying implication that women don't enjoy sex, they only do it to please men.
And the additional implication that men are driven by sex while women are cold.
 
I can't imagine a relationship where I had to initiate 100% of the intimate contact.
 
(Which leads to marketers thinking they can get straight access to your wallet by going through your dick)
 
user406009
@Mr.kbok "stupid object hierarchy"?
 
7:19 PM
@EtiennedeMartel so...women have penises?
weird assumption that "women never give sex"
so they have penises?
 
They like to act like that because society, but they're usually hungrier for dick than men are for pussy. It caused me quite a bit of problems in my short little life, as I don't find sex nearly as fascinating as the rest of my dick-endowed brethren.
 
@DonLarynx Depends on which.
 
@ElimGarak Again, that's a generalization.
 
Generalizations are good. We get to offend people. And at the end of the day, that's what life is about.
 
@Morwenn, @EtiennedeMartel assumes you have a penis. Please say It aint so.
 
7:21 PM
Also, people of all genders need a more positive outlook on sex.
Sex is fun.
 
People, when it comes to intimate stuff, you only have to work on a person-to-person basis. Don't assume, just feel it or ask if you're really unsure.
 
My outlook is that we could do without it. It's yuck. And awkward. And weird. And shit.
 
@Morwenn i fucking love you morwenn.
 
@DonLarynx I have a penis. It's already written somewhere else in the transcript.
 
@EtiennedeMartel only if you can remember the safe word :(
 
7:22 PM
@DonLarynx what are you afraid of penises
 
@rlemon That :D
 
@ElimGarak One day you'll find someone you can have fun with.
 
@rlemon Oh, that get me even started on that. Man, I don't want an ass whoopin'.
 
@Morwenn I have a 60-inched insertion point, so only use necessary parameters on it.
 
Well, I say "someone", but it's probably gonna be more than one person.
 
7:23 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, the next unconference. Bring lube.
 
I'm putting off doing a DB migration.
if it goes smoothly, cool.
if it doesn't... I don't feel like dealing with that crap right now
 
I need a shower. Fifth one today. So fucking hot.
 
So hot right now
 
Man, your pussy is the only thing that's smooth up in this bitch.
 
If I want g++ to consider inlining a function, I have to place the function body in the header, correct?
 
7:27 PM
it's already smarter than you
just enable LTO
 
g++ considers inlining every funciton
 
Damn Witcher.
 
:( I can't hold a stable ssh connection unless I'm behind a VPN
what the shit is that?!
 
Man, green color is absolutely the worst. Any shade of it. It doesn't get jiggy with anything.
 
7:30 PM
thanks, didn't know about -flto
 
@ElimGarak Wiedźmin is the greatest thing of all time
 
Wake the White Wolf at the dawn of waaar...
 
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@Morwenn let's have sex.
 
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hi @BartekBanachewicz
 
@elyse Fine with me if you come all the way to here.
 
7:37 PM
aaah
my GF bought me that lamp
so psyched
looks killer in our living room
 
share picture
 
user1804599
I'm gonna spell Erlang as Ærlang from now on.
 
Evening
 
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@Morwenn :O
 
user1804599
:O:O:O :3 :3 :D
 
7:38 PM
@Mr.kbok I'll try to make it
I still need to replace shitton of stuff there
but at least the light is cool now
 
You got all hype over that? Its a pretty good lamp I guess. I was expecting some lava lamp disco ball thing by the way you sounded lol
Seems really bright
 
I was expecting the lights helicopter from Independence day.
 
@Prismatic Quite unlike your mother
 
@Prismatic IRL it looks better because it's... bigger than you'd expect
6
inb4 that's what she said
 
It looks kind of like an oversized desk lamp
 
7:41 PM
yeah, that's the point
it's not that bright though, the photo overexposed it
I put a 14W LED bulb in there I think
 
> I think
yeahright
 
I'm too lazy to go and check
 
user1804599
hahaha "lazy" get it
 
Would technology that cuts edges be considered cutting-edge technology?
 
but it was something like that, I think it was ~70W of conventional "light power"
 
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7:43 PM
you like Haskell
 
@BartekBanachewicz a photo cannot over expose anything, it simple is overexposed itself
 
user1804599
and Haskell uses lazy evaluation
 
user1804599
get the pun? :D hahaha
 
@thecoshman your mom manages somehow
 
hello
 
7:43 PM
hi ethan
 
It just looks like a plain light, not sure what the deal is
 
user1804599
hi cute haircut
 
was that the name of the traitor in Lost
 
@Puppy hipster shit :P
 
oh shit
I just got soda up my nose
 
7:44 PM
In the first series yes
 
@Puppy oh well, I wanted to buy it for months already, and today it's our 5 year anniversary of sorts
 
@Puppy Bartek is probably on crack his gf brought to him to make that lamp look special.
 
so it's like double special
 
@BartekBanachewicz congrats
man I need a name for my gui widgets lib
 
yeah, it's been a long way together I suppose
from the dorm to rented flat with mates to our own place
@Prismatic Guild!
 
7:46 PM
thats p good
 
@Prismatic yafguilib
 
user406009
@Prismatic Do you have a specific target market (such as OpenGL rendering), or is it just a generic GUI wrapper for the native components?
 
too long, I want it < 6 letters
 
7:47 PM
yafgui library
 
Nosingletona
 
It uses opengl to render widgets though I guess you could switch out the back end if you really wanted to
 
Even = 6 is too long?
 
6 is good
 
Nosingletons
 
7:47 PM
lol
 
no managers
 
user406009
@Prismatic For interests, sake, how are you doing text rendering? Last I checked, text rendering in OpenGL is a big pain.
 
nomans
 
wiji
 
user406009
7:48 PM
I would try to put the purpose in the name.
 
@Lalaland freetype + harfbuzz + signed distance fields
 
@Lalaland repeat after me: OpenGL doesn't do text rendering
 
user406009
SimpleWidgets.
 
user406009
FastWidgets.
 
7:48 PM
oh god now I have soda in my eye
 
@BartekBanachewicz I believe that's the pain to which he refers
 
I think that literally 50% of my answers can be summed up as "OpenGL doesn't do that"
@Puppy oh yes pain it does alright
 
@BartekBanachewicz Thats a good thing if you think about it
 
@ElimGarak yes
 
7:49 PM
You dont' want to do more things with opengl's half assed api
imagine all the extensions
 
there was OpenVG... was
but it will go bigger soon
Hi-Dpi screens like vectors more
seems natural to make GPU handle that
 
@Prismatic are you also @Prismatic elsewhere?
 
There was a video someone linked recently that showed a whole khronos api stack... opengl es, open sl, etc. Seemed pretty cool
 
why do you need a video for that? I saw a diagram and it was p clear
I might be allergic to "video tutorials" though, khronos vids tend to be good
 
@набиячлевэлиь I don't usually use that name elsewhere... I might have an account or two as 'prismatic', but the only other place I can remember for sure is my email address
 
7:51 PM
also, news
and a poll, perhaps
 
@BartekBanachewicz It was a trailer video, they were showing off tech at a conference
 
long story short, my laptop is considered dead and I was offered to be given a new one, p much whatever I'd like from the store. Do I get another Yoga or do I pick something else?
 
They even had this safety critical version of ES for cars or something. It was cool
 
GAYLIB
 
macbook pro!
 
7:52 PM
GUI as you like it baby.
 
nice
 
anything but a Mac
 
@Prismatic no touchscreen and no dock
 
and its a library too
 
@Morwenn wot?
 
7:52 PM
Try Dell XPS 13
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have yet to come across a laptop with a touchscreen that isn't shit.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's terribly ungoogleable.
 
@Puppy no dock
 
no cock
 
wtf are you wanting to dock it with?
 
7:53 PM
@Prismatic I guess you haven't used a lot of laptops (besides mac, eh?) then
 
no spock
 
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@Puppy cock.
 
Dude why do you want a dock? Docks are so annoying and their connections get shitty after awhile. I've had a dock on my last three laptops... so not worth it
 
:( I made myself sad.
 
7:53 PM
@Puppy a docking station
duh
 
@Prismatic that's anectodal and plain BS basically
 
@BartekBanachewicz I've never had a mac for personal use, just at work
 
well that's for my personal use
as in, that's my personal mobile device.
I code on it, browse web and game lightly
 
@BartekBanachewicz No shit its anecdotal. What else would my opinion be taken from?
 
the thing I was missing in Yoga was a 4G modem mostly
 
7:54 PM
Every dock I've had (HP, Thinkpad, Dell) has been bad
 
are we comparing docks? because mine is bigger.
 
@Prismatic Every single person I know (besides you) that used a docked laptop liked it
the docking, I mean
 
lol
 
that would be a few dozen people
 
fucking docking
also, laptops
 
7:55 PM
so yeah, you can be anecdotal and... less anecdotal?
 
I'm liking docked laptops, but I'm probably biased, since I only use those at work and only ever take them off their docks for relatively short meetings.
 
Wtf I a docking station
 
well the thing is a 12-14" laptop, so the only thing I imagine mobile, is rather not nice to use if you compare it to a workstation setup
 
unless you dock it
 
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7:56 PM
cocking station
 
@Puppy the laptop bases that come with cd bays and other stuff you can connect
 
@elyse pussy?
 
@Prismatic beh, mine's much smaller
8
mostly a port expander
 
> cd bays
what?
 
inbound star
 
7:57 PM
Then I have a USB dock for my XPS 13
 
Who uses such a thing?
 
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@ElimGarak XD
 
Those two stars really work well together.
 
@Puppy what do you attach over that? I have two screens, mouse, kbd and ethernet
now cat should storm in with a "no-wifi" flag
 
1 screen, mouse, ethernet, other usb accessories
 
7:59 PM
Cat is either napping or playing ARK. Or dreaming about ARK.
 
I always BT kbd and mouse.
 
Wires everywhere, for life.
 
Wires suck.
 
we had a discussion about wireless mice and keyboards already
 
I can dock 1 DVI/VGA and 1 HDMI
 
7:59 PM
I assume it exploded in your faces?
 
Never tried both simultaneously though
 
DP?
 
I prefer wired keyboards and mice. with my luck they never die in the middle of browsing reddit, always in the middle of a game I'm about to win.
 
@Puppy this one?
@ElimGarak displayport
 
8:00 PM
Nope, third party I think
 
@BartekBanachewicz You must see porn once.
 
well I used the proprietary lenovo onelink thing
so if I get any thinkpad, it'll fit
if I get a Dell or MBP I'd need to find some other docking solution
 
Well having a generic USB dock has advantages
 
does it charge over that?
 
8:02 PM
MacBooks could.
 
Yuck, MacBooks.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the USB-C ones? ye
 
Charge what, the laptop?
 
can you charge from multiple ports at once?
 
@Puppy mhm
 
8:02 PM
I don't believe so but never checked
 
new Thunderbolt looks like a great docking solution
but yeah, it's coming in slowly
3
and I have about a month to pick the new machine
 
More stars
 
Personally I might buy a Surface
 
I was thinking about X1 actually
ooor Yoga 14
 
I heard that Surface 3 is not shit
 
8:04 PM
I've used it for a while and it looked really nice
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ha!
 
I actually wanted to buy it when I was getting my Yoga, but it was unavailable in Poland at that time
The thing about Yoga is that it's not a power machine, but still it weighs around 1.7kg
X1 is 300g lighter
and Yoga 14, packing much more firepower, is just 200g heavier
so basically the compromise in smaller Yoga is sacrificing a lot to get to that "not-so-sweet spot"
 
if only "sacrificing a lot to get to that "not-so-sweet spot" were a separate message.
 
Optimizing algorithms that I didn't write and that I didn't bother to understand. It's bound to cause problems at some point.
 
@Morwenn You're doing god's work. Keep it up.
 
8:08 PM
I wonder how companies like Google and Apple come up with project names
 
All you need is a profiler
 
@Prismatic They probably have a project for that. But they didn't reveal the name.
 
@Prismatic Scotch
 
@Prismatic Rye
 
oh there's also Helix
heh, what's fun is that the store is obliged to get me a machine "not worse than the previous one"
and because they don't seem to be selling older i7 yogas, that might mean I've just earned about €600 in store credit
 
8:11 PM
@BartekBanachewicz What the hell awesome store is this
 
@Prismatic that's lenovo policy, not the store
they were unable to get the SSD for my laptop, and I've waited for like 2 months, and they offered me a replacement
and their replacements are carried out by the stores, sooo
I'll know the details once the store gets the confirmation on the whole deal
but the guy I talked with today said that "you'll be able to get pretty much anything"
hi
 
Ell
Hi
What is this talk about laptop docks?
I saw the photo of the black bar thing
It's not black
 
@EtiennedeMartel Eh, it's been a long time :D
 
user1804599
8:43 PM
I hope MGS V won't take too long to download.
 
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It's around 25 GB and I only have a 70 Mb/s connection.
 
El showoff.
Also, Konami, man. You can't give money to these assholes.
 
@elyse Ha. Ha. Ha. :P I am stuck @ 30 at home.
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel First, I don't know whether they're assholes. Second, I couldn't give less of a shit.
 
@EtiennedeMartel He can purchase it for free... Somewhere on the internets.
 
user1804599
8:45 PM
Also, I pre-ordered so there's no going back anyway.
 
It's like you checked all the boxes next to "how to be a part of the problems that plague the AAA games industry".
 
user1804599
Luckily I just enjoy the game instead of worrying about all of that nonsense.
 
Such selfishness.
 
user1804599
8:47 PM
If you want to be literally Stallman then that's fine. But I don't.
 
You disgust us.
 
@ElimGarak Knowing how Konami operates, they probably didn't have any vacations to begin with.
 
I have no idea how Konami even got entangled with video games... Aren't they a kitchen sink company or something?
:P
 
hi hungry
 
user1804599
What? Do it yourself.
 
8:51 PM
damn it
Y12 has a better CPU
Y14 has a better GPU
this is just uh
 
so take a Y13 :p
whatever that is
 
user1804599
@ScottW use a food library
 
yoga 12 and yoga 14
there's no 13
the X series is meh because they are basically worse top models
T and W are way too bulky
which leaves me with y12, y14 and X1 basically if I want to stick to lenovo
 
@EtiennedeMartel Does "Goodbye, Commander." remind you of anyone? :P
 
@ElimGarak At this point, any mention of "Commander" makes me think of XCOM, so no.
We will be in touch, Commander
 
8:59 PM
@EtiennedeMartel The annoyed C-Sec Executor, a turian called Venari Pallin. He has a pretty specific way of saying it, always comes to mind.
Really dickish and superior, like all of his lines.
 

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