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4:00 PM
I say remove the vlad line, and sino line, and all the comments relating to it
@Nooble v-8
 
@thecoshman Yeah.
@thecoshman :P
 
Can someone kick Sino from the doc?
 
@набиячлевэлиь no, it's stupidly public for some reason
sigh
 
someone is defacing the sheet
 
HE FUCKING REMOVED ALL OF THE IMPORTANT INFO RN
 
4:02 PM
I'll make one and lock it down
 
IT'S SINO
aka KENED
 
anonymous wolf is sino
 
lol sino
 
kened is sino
As we all know
 
4:02 PM
people ping me with email that I can add to the new doc
 
@thecoshman skorezore@gmail.com
 
user406009
We have history though, we can recover.
 
@thecoshman nabijaczleweli@gmail.com
 
@thecoshman arnaud.bellec@gmail.com
 
user406009
@thecoshman ethan.steinberg@gmail.com
 
4:03 PM
@Lalaland too much effort
 
thanks for recover
 
Sino is Dolphin now
 
@thecoshman so much effort that its alreadydone
 
@TonyTheLion it'll get fucked again
 
@thecoshman you optimistic sack of sh**
 
4:05 PM
Game Jam Google Doc for your viewing pleasure (sans random twats editing it) (ping me for edit access)
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@TonyTheLion realistic
 
linkfail
 
Markdown fail
 
WTF
 
Today I realised Markdown is a word play on "markup"
 
@unordered_meow :0
TIL
 
4:07 PM
¬_¬ I had () and [] backwards
 
@thecoshman bzdusik@tlen.pl
 
@unordered_meow lol
 
@TonyTheLion can you jiggery poke the pins
 
shall I cancel the stars on the other one?
 
@thecoshman common mistake
 
4:09 PM
@TonyTheLion Yes, it's vandalized by Sino (aka Kened)
 
@TonyTheLion Yes
 
@набиячлевэлиь what a stupid piece of shit
 
@TonyTheLion yes
 
> This user has been temporarily suspended by a moderator and cannot chat for 6 days.
4
 
4:09 PM
Wellp, would be easier if the Lounge were a private establishment.
 
@TonyTheLion lol
@ElimGarak we do have Slack, but it tends not to be used
 
still vandalazing us while he's suspended for eons to come
 
> Sorry guys I was vandalizing and someone started deleting my vandalisms and I got angry can I join
 
@ElimGarak we've got solutions but they don't get used
 
We sure are a complacent bunch.
 
4:11 PM
@TonyTheLion That's admitting defeat
 
@Mr.kbok Its also the truth
 
We ought to use the private one for affairs such as the jam. And use this one to greet potential new members and everyday lol business.
 
hey Scott!
 
everyday lol business
 
Bitchin'.
 
4:12 PM
its alright mate
 
@ElimGarak sino will grow tired to getting shit at on the face at some point, then we can get back to normal business
 
user406009
@ElimGarak The jam isn't private though.
 
could be better, as ever
 
user406009
It's a public event.
 
Yeah, but this Lounge has always had a "Sino". One Sino even managed to stick around.
 
4:13 PM
@ElimGarak we've got a slack chat
 
@ScottW no :(
 
@thecoshman Let's use it!
 
I like slack, it's better than this shite for a lot of things, just lacks a few features
 
user406009
But we want as much stuff public as possible.
 
lol @ stupid animal names
 
user406009
4:13 PM
That's how we get new people.
 
hop on hop off
I'm too lazy to log in
 
@thecoshman Where?
 
I can't slack from here
Many people have proxies who let them go here but not there. I'm one of them. If you move to slack you'll leave me behind.
 
user406009
No. No slack.
 
4:15 PM
It's sort of been agreed that we'd never move to slack permanently, or any 'closed' system for that matter. Part of the appeal hear is new people joining us. It's just handy for 'private' matters like unconferences
 
stargazer hats is a cool idea
 
Slack is actually charging people to have a transcript.
 
user406009
@Mr.kbok Only would work for people who have the extension though.
 
@ElimGarak it is?
 
@thecoshman "Searchable archive with unlimited messages"
 
4:16 PM
I thought it was for ever transcript for small sizes?
 
@Lalaland winter bash is opt-in, too.
 
Free only gives you 10k messages
 
@ElimGarak maybe our limit is just huge for us now?
@ElimGarak ooh
 
We need like a lounge fund
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You might like this.
 
4:18 PM
erm, someone requested access... but I don't recognise the name... so no go
 
user406009
@thecoshman Message them to identify themselves.
 
@Lalaland #effort
 
Who ever it is, Just send me your lounge name.
 
Could it be @Nooble that requested Slack access?
 
I have your IRL name, but that doesn't help does it.
 
4:20 PM
@TonyTheLion I think...
 
not for slack, for the google sheet
 
@TonyTheLion lounge hedge fund managed by @chmod711telkitty, @TonyTheLion, me and @MaiLongdong
 
user406009
Should the hats be part of StarGazer, or a seperate extension?
 
@Mr.kbok I think your ping missed its intended target.
 
...yes Oo
 
4:22 PM
@Mr.kbok why telkitty?
 
StarGazer could be a mandatory extension for Loungers, so we can do meta-shit. Like microtransaction hats.
 
@TonyTheLion I don't think I can.
Someone would have to invite me.
 
@TonyTheLion she pretends to know about finance too
@ElimGarak bitcoin hats
 
@Nooble @thecoshman can invite you
 
@Mr.kbok She posted her debt here.
And pissed off Robot.
 
4:24 PM
lol
 
@Mr.kbok "pretends" being the key word here
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because you think I have the ability to run a fund? :o)
 
hahaha you took that way too far
 
@thecoshman Hey, the one trying to get access is ThePhD.
 
Why doesn't PhD bring his ass here?
 
4:25 PM
@Lalaland don't vote on all the trophies :)
 
@ElimGarak He can't login
 
@EtiennedeMartel OMG OMG that is awesome.
 
@Mr.kbok I meant like a bank account or whatever where Lounge has pot of money for shit lounge needs money for.
and of course you could run a fund, you're kbok :) :P
 
user406009
@Mr.kbok Three trophies each isn't that bad.
 
@Nooble wut
 
4:26 PM
@Nooble Make a new account, answer two questions, link it to us to review them and give him chat creds. It takes two upboats.
 
@TonyTheLion aww :P
 
user406009
All the bug ones should be one trophy.
 
@ElimGarak Why don't you tell him that on Mumble.
 
@Lalaland yeah, you're right
 
@Nooble I am currently at Caltech (the shitter). (laptop)
 
user406009
4:28 PM
@ElimGarak You're in Los Angeles?
 
@Lalaland Teh toilet.
 
user406009
Darn, can't wait till I get back to LA in winter.
 
@Nooble no, it was someone else, with a name I don't recognise, from an email I don't recognise, thus, ACCESS DENIED
the phd's email is clearly him, and he thought to say so in his email...
or I just got conned
 
@thecoshman Oh, you approved his then?
 
@thecoshman GET ME SOMEONE AT STARFLEET COMMAND WHOSE AUTHORITY I RECOGNISE.
 
4:29 PM
Whose email was it?
 
user406009
@thecoshman 3 votes max per person per category.
 
I'm not going to disclose that, if they wanted to publicise it, they would have done so.
 
Good call. That's why you're the (cosh) man.
 
@Lalaland it's my reward for being sensible and doing access control :D
 
you may want to reword that
 
4:31 PM
hahaahah
 
@sehe <3
 
¬_¬ where is thephd
 
Man, that's star material, but no context.
@thecoshman On Mumble.
 
user406009
Anyways, is anyone williing to contribute to any physical goods?
 
user406009
For prizes?
 
4:32 PM
@Lalaland Like a dildo?
 
@Lalaland Steam credit!
 
@TonyTheLion elyse can borrow one
 
user406009
I say knock the physical prize thing off the list unless anyone wants to donate.
 
user406009
At best, we could probably get some t-shirts anyways.
 
I would donate <$5
 
4:34 PM
@Lalaland I have an HD6990 I don't need, but you know, I live in a shithole. Postage is hell.
 
for one prize
 
user406009
Just checked. It's about 20$ for a custom tshirt.
 
We could all pitch in for a game gift on Steam. Winner's choice, or something.
 
"I WON THE SECOND LOUNGE MARMALADE"
 
Robot made custom shirts once
 
4:36 PM
I guarantee people will ask you what the fuck that means
 
they could Google it
would end up in this transcript, and then rip us
 
> My favorite short story
My. For me, a story isn't short that can't be printed on a single roll of toilet paper
 
user406009
Here's a stupid idea: temporary room ownership.
 
user406009
For like a week.
 
user406009
As a prize.
 
4:37 PM
We could have a shirt with "I survived the Sino crisis".
 
user406009
Glorious leader, @TonyTheLion, what do you think of that idea.
 
@ElimGarak so credit
 
@Lalaland I'm not Kim Jung-Un
 
@Lalaland no
 
I am just flinging shit and seeing what sticks.
 
4:39 PM
Game we can donate: empik.com/…
 
@Lalaland That wouldn't be a decision I could make on my own. There's quite a few other room owners
 
user1804599
 
But I think that "be a room owner for a week" isn't such a good idea
 
@TonyTheLion it's a terrible idea
 
@TonyTheLion Also, it's more of a chore than a reward.
 
4:41 PM
the problem is that room owners can remove other room owners
 
user406009
I'm trying to think of free prizes we could give, that are still somewhat worthwhile.
 
@TonyTheLion That's a fairly presumptuous feature.
 
@elyse idgi
 
user1804599
neither did the guy in the orange jacket
 
Ell
I bought budafok élesztő
Does anyone know what I'm supposed to do with it?
I thought it was butter
 
4:47 PM
Sounds not delicious :P
 
Ell
it smells awful
What is it?
 
lol
 
Hello
 
4:49 PM
Hello
 
Ell
I translated it as yeast. But its in a block, like butter and it was refrigerated
I figure it could be some kind of yeast extract?
 
It's a yeast block.
 
I'm assuming that most of you know C++, right?
 
@EthanBierlein That's a dangerous assumption that leads to no good.
 
uh, okay.
 
Ell
4:50 PM
That is just too much yeast
And yeast comes in powder
 
I actually just wanted to ask a small question that's been bothering me for quite some time.
 
Ell
Is it literally a block of yeast?
 
@EthanBierlein What's C++?
 
I asked it back on regular Chat.SE, but I'm not sure if I should trust C# programmers to know what to do in C++.
 
@Ell Do you make it a habit of purchasing stuff you cannot readily identify? :P
 
4:51 PM
@Ell Yes.
@Ell Unless it comes as a block.
 
@Nooble hah hah
 
@EthanBierlein Go ahead
 
Ell
Who needs that much yeast is all I'm wondering
 
4:52 PM
Suppose I have a function, std::string foo(std::string bar);
I don't ever change or modify the value of bar in foo.
 
Ell
@elim well I don't know Hungarian :P
 
@Ell Bakers.
 
Ell
I spose :P
 
If that's the case, is it okay to pass bar by const reference, like this?
 
@EthanBierlein Then mark it const.
@EthanBierlein It's recommended.
 
4:53 PM
std::string foo(const std::string& bar);
 
Yes.
 
That's what you're supposed to do.
 
Thanks.
 
It's recommended, yes.
 
But don't do that for primitives.
 
user1804599
4:53 PM
omg people who actually use std::string
 
I knew those C# programmers were wrong.
 
Ell
I also got finom májas
 
user1804599
and who don't use using namespace std;
 
user406009
@elyse What would you recommend instead?
 
Ell
or something
 
user1804599
4:53 PM
Ethan you're awesome.
 
@elyse Yes, this one can stay.
 
Ell
I think it is paté
 
@EthanBierlein What did they tell you?
 
@EthanBierlein You should stay. We like you.
 
@Mr.kbok To pass it by value.
 
4:54 PM
@EthanBierlein Just don't do this for primitives. As the CPU can do optimizations on these.
 
Ell
@ethan I would pass it by value personally
 
@ElimGarak Thanks! :-)
 
And forgive the hostility, we suffer a lot of shit on a daily basis.
 
@Ell Pork liver, yeah.
 
user image
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4:54 PM
@ElimGarak That's okay, I completely understand.
@sehe Lol, I saw that on imgur about an hour ago.
 
user1804599
@Nooble define "primitives".
 
Completely laughed my ass off.
 
user1804599
Do you mean "values of fundamental types"?
 
user406009
@elyse Stuff smaller than 32 bytes.
 
@EthanBierlein The gain is marginal but it's better to pass by reference for "big" objects, and by big I mean either noticeably bigger than a pointer, or, with copy constructor involving allocation. std::string fills both categories.
 
user1804599
4:55 PM
Ah, so not your mother.
 
Ell
Pork liver cool. I don't have to cook this right?
 
@elyse C++'s primitive data types.
 
Ell
I've never had paté besides in a restaurant
 
user1804599
C++ has no primitive data types.
 
@elyse lots of you
 
4:56 PM
const nazis are always welcome.
 
@Ell Nah, just put it on bread.
 
@elyse What do you call them?
 
Or a salad. Or something.
 
@ElimGarak but they never change :/
 
user1804599
@Nooble fundamental types.
 
4:57 PM
:D
 
Ell
yeah I'd already put it on bread but I thought I'd make sure it was what I thiuht it was before eating. Thanks robot
 
user406009
@Nooble @elyse is pretty much correct. You could write your own int if you want.
 
user406009
The important thing is the size of the type.
 
user1804599
4:58 PM
nice
 
@EthanBierlein sorry I don't usually dwell there
 
@Ell well, I presume it's a Pate... in which case, no. Raw liver needs cooking
@ell what are you up to?
 
@sehe Lol, neither do I. I just had a friend text me the link.
 
@elyse Ahh yes, that is what I meant.
 

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