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8:00 PM
@VermillionAzure My brother use to call me a #2 head. He use the other word for "#2" though.
 
@khajvah Well duh.
@khajvah Hence why I'm here instead of over there
 
whoops
 
@VermillionAzure That's good.
 
Stop with the fucking one star messages, good lord
 
I blew up my rover and killed my Kerbal trying to maneuver at 40m/s
 
8:01 PM
The Lounge sure is refreshing when you think you're knowledgeable, but does it really improve your C++?
 
@Morwenn It motivates to not be ashamed every time you are here.
 
@Morwenn It's improved tremendously.
@Morwenn Slower than if I were being truly taught by good programmers in a class setting but still good nevertheless.
 
@VermillionAzure That's because schools don't teach programming.
They usually teach CS.
Or in your case, CE
 
CE/EE is for scrubs
CS is for scrubs too actually
college is for scrubs
 
8:04 PM
What's not for scrubs?
 
me
 
inb4 JS
 
ES5 is for scrubs, ES6 is for pros like me
 
user1804599
No, ES6 is just as shit as ES5.
 
damn my LinkedIn profile is depressing
@elyse how?
 
8:06 PM
It has class keyword, therefore it's better.
 
back up I'm about to drop knowledge on this fool
@khajvah true
 
user1804599
it's literally only syntax additions, symbols and default strict mode
 
user1804599
ok the latter is what's better about ES6
 
ok so ES6 is better /thread
 
default strict mode is nice too. I wondered why they didn't make it default before.
 
user1804599
8:07 PM
because they were morons/backwardscompat
 
@elyse sounds like C++
 
I always wonder why I get dumb right wing bullshit in my Twitter feed, and it's always because it was retweeted by rightfold.
 
I hate silent breaks. When you don't even know where to start debugging
 
@EtiennedeMartel rightfold has a twitter? pls link
 
8:09 PM
Guess what's his Twitter handle?
 
mm
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel It's not dumb.
 
> Will fight async APIs other than spawn till the end of time.
 
user1804599
But you are free to unfollow me if you don't like my tweets (and also if you do).
 
lol
 
8:10 PM
@elyse It's either over simplified fearmongering, or it's in Dutch in which case it's probably the same but I can't tell because I don't read Dutch.
 
I just see a bunch of stuff related to muslims
 
Is there anything like Netflix that is available in third-world countries?
 
piratebay maybe
 
well
I don't want to wait for download
 
@Prismatic I'm hyppppppppppppppppppped.
 
8:13 PM
and no, I don't care about bluray quality
 
is it possible to configure torrent clients to download data sequentially?
if so you should be able to "stream"
 
@ʞɔᴉN Will kind of lose the point
 
@Prismatic Nice
 
qhoops blew up my rover again
 
> This service is for the U.S. only
fuck you
 
8:18 PM
@Puppy do you work for SpaceX
 
I am gonna get a VPN
 
no
 
@khajvah USA! USA! USA!
 
Xeo
@ʞɔᴉN He works for SpacePup inc.
 
Why do stores allow you to sort by Price: High to Low
 
user1804599
8:19 PM
 
Xeo
for the snobs
 
user1804599
> petsinuniform.com
 
@Prismatic Why not?
 
@Prismatic Sometimes I do that to see how it feels to be rich.
 
@Prismatic because price == quality of course
 
8:21 PM
FUCKING MECHJEB
I FORGOT TO PUT MECHJEB ON THE ROVER.
 
hacker
 
That's why you partconfig MechJeb to every control pod
 
@CatPlusPlus Well I just find it odd because most people want to save money, not spend more of it. Low to High makes sense, High to Llow doesn't
 
I'm actually in the command seat so no pod
 
man mouse pads are $$
$30 for a mouse pad? come on now
 
8:22 PM
Special casing sorting types to not allow one or the other is dumb
 
@Prismatic High to Low price is how I search for mechanical keyboards /cc @Nooble
 
Also when you have one then you can get the other by going to last page, so you achieved nothing by blocking it
 
@ʞɔᴉN A good site would have 'gaming' or mechanical keyboards in a separate category
 
I want programming keyboard
 
@Prismatic Doesn't matter, I must have only the most expensive mechanical keyboard
 
8:25 PM
@khajvah Good old APL keyboard.
 
@Morwenn what is that?
 
totally not what puppy got up to with his rover
 
Xeo
That's... a rover, you say?
 
@ʞɔᴉN APL
 
yep.
 
8:26 PM
 
looks pretty annoying
 
the look on Valentina Kerman's face is kinda perfect really
 
is it over $100?
 
she's so "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
 
@Puppy what happens if it flips?
 
8:28 PM
Note that std::iota's name actually comes from APL.
 
@ʞɔᴉN 100TWR with reaction wheels
 
I can't get to force myself to work in PHP and MySQL
 
that's what
 
I got nausea just thinking about it
 
the rover can't flip as long as you're paying attention and enable the torque in time
but you CAN blow out all four of your wheels with the landing
@Xeo What would you do differently?
 
Xeo
8:31 PM
dunno, looks too barren for a rover is all
 
it has pretty much everything except MechJeb.
 
std::unordered_meow is considered to be over-specified by some: which means that there isn't much latitude for std implementers to vary how it works. As far as I can tell, a sample implementation was written, then abstract requirements based on what it does where codified... — Yakk 20 hours ago
lol - std::unordered_meow
@Morwenn mmm. I'd venture that it may have quite a longer history. But, as in PL, the APL appearance may be its first
 
@sehe The SGI's STL documentation states that the name comes from the APL symbol.
 
That's pretty authoritative :)
TIL
@Morwenn yes
 
8:43 PM
@elyse but does it have after-touch?
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ huh. nice
 
user1804599
no
 
@sehe Well, I guess it does :)
 
@elyse insensitive bastards
 
is poland the most represented country on lounge
 
nopoe
 
8:49 PM
@Prismatic Bartek is not here any more.
 
rip bman
 
Rest In Poland
3
 
user1804599
Rip Into Pieces
 
Rightfold Is Pайтфолд
 
there is this annoying fake-deep TV show when two idiots sit together and talk in metaphors
How annoying that is
 
8:59 PM
Link?
 
One is like "I sit in white corner", the other is like"speaking of white, there is nothing as white as childhood. How was your childhood?"
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's in Armenian.
 
user1804599
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ lol
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ vodka vodka boris yelcin
 
This is what happens when you botch goat rituals aggro-gator.com/images/aggro-gatordotcom47835.jpg
 
I spent considerable amounts of time dissecting your huge sample and finding not only the cause, but also explaining it and how you could have located it yourself. (I even solved it for your particular code base). I'd like to think that counts as both "this answer is useful" (upvote) and "best answer to the question" (accept). Please consider the linked meta-question: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5234/…sehe 1 min ago
It's a low stoop. But I couldn't let that go.
Woop woop. Who was it :)
Could hardly be the OP - so quickly
 
user1804599
@sehe when will you do a livestream again?
 
When I'm back on decent internet. I guess
 
@sehe i tried > commented after yours
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf lol - the comment is a bit funny in the absense of competing answers. But I get how you meant it. Thanks
 
it's in the context of people that answer 2 years later, also i'm not sure how this best answers & voting thing affects SEO stuff, so there's always that
i'm quite amazed you read all that code, it seems annoying
 
9:19 PM
Yup. It was annoying. It's just something that taunts me: I know all these libraries and (a) would like to know about any pitfalls in combining them I didn't already know (b) would like to think I can sail through them unless there's a real conceptual blocker.
 
Since there are no active game dev chats right now, I will try here. OpenGL: when creating a GL context, is it possible to know which context versions are available?
 
It's why I use SO: to learn
@MartijnCourteaux whoa. Hello
 
Or is this trail and error until you are lucky and you got a context?
Hello :)
 
hey sehe
do you have the original code?
 
Ell
9:20 PM
@MartijnCourteaux mostly trial and.error I think
 
can you edit her/his question to put it back
 
Google becomes publically traded as Alphabet, Sundar Pichai is new CEO of Google
 
@MartijnCourteaux Hint: this chat gets way too many help vampires, so people barging in with questions are not frequently welcomed without hesitation
 
Ell
I think.you just have to request all.the ones you want
 
9:20 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Yesh.
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Oh. Maybe.
 
i would consider nswering questions to get better edit privs sigh
 

 Game Development

Game development and other polite discussion. Game development...
 
@sehe: Hi, ye I know. I feel it. But I think this question is sort of too minor to create a real question on gamdev
 
when i see very blatant homework i sometimes consider emailing the department
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ: wow... I have literally searched for minutes for a gamedev specific chat
 
9:21 PM
@MartijnCourteaux try asking on #OpenGL on freenode for smaller questions
They are pretty helpful and its a good format for questions like yours imo
 
@sehe he is pretty new
 
@MartijnCourteaux It doesn't matter how "small" your question is, you should always ask the question if it was not asked already. If it was, then search for the question.
 
Okay, thanks I'll post a question.
 
@JohanLarsson oh well. He managed to throw in just about all boost libraries he could find and boasts a username suggesting '84 yob. I decided not to treat him as a noob :)
@MartijnCourteaux Perhaps you're right. I'm not judging the question. I was responding to the modus ponens
 
9:26 PM
@sehe '84 yob?
from his profile it looks like he is new to SO.
Also keeping a question open for a while is not that bad as selecting an answer pretty much kills all activity. Not sure this applies in this case as you remote debugged his code so successfully :)
 
I found this!
Quote by Nicol Bolas: "The only way to know if your OpenGL implementation supports a particular version is to attempt to create a context with that version and see if you get a valid context as a result."
Nicol Bolas is the OpenGL god here on SO btw.
 
@MartijnCourteaux Appeal to authority fallacy
 
Don't worry, we know who Nicol Bolas is.
He's a dragon from Magic: The Gathering.
 
Ell
It's not a fallacy
 
isnt he the arcsynthesis guy
 
9:31 PM
Was it ever common, accepted practice to add a custom swap to namespace std ?
 
user1804599
> Kickstarter. Primary DB became inconsistent with all replicas, which wasn't detected until a query failed. This was caused by a MySQL bug which sometimes caused order by to be ignored.
 
user1804599
hahahhaahahaha
 
@JohanLarsson hehe. You didn't read much of the question nor his comment, I wager
 
user1804599
MySQL
 
@sehe you got me
 
9:32 PM
how does this make you feel
 
@Ell It pretty much is. It's just pre-expressed rather than being used to make any particular argument.
 
@Prismatic awe
 
@Prismatic Dirty
 
@Prismatic You mean the fact that there is both MSVC and « implementation quality » in the same article?
 
9:34 PM
@Prismatic What? Why?
 
I mean, I sympathize with balancing headers/source files not being super nice, but come on
 
Hey there, someone here who knows java?
 
Try the Java room
 
@Prismatic It's about as readable as a slap in the face.
 
Well, I need someone who knows java and cpp, you see
 
9:36 PM
@HarrySilver have you tried asking your question on SO
 
Assuming the slapper is a woman? That's sexist.
Men slap too.
@HarrySilver I don't, but I know the rules.
 
I wonder what google's new stock symbol will be
ALPH?
ALPA
 
@Prismatic: I lolled :p I would never ever do something like that. Besides that it is ugly, has it downsides to create these namespace alternatives like this?
 
@Prismatic wow
 
Hmm, you probably have to add static to everything...
 
@MartijnCourteaux its the equivalent of having everything in one giant cpp file
 
@ScottW lel
 
@Morwenn nice
 
I can't listen to the vids :(
 
Too bad :/
 
9:41 PM
@Prismatic: Ah, I see, I didn't read the comment above it... Hahaha :P That's horrible :P
 
@Morwenn Superb.
 
It's not often we get people flipping out over a single downvote. — Mysticial 38 secs ago
 
@Morwenn This really sounds a lot like Les Triplettes de Belleville.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I never made the link but I'm not that surprised.
 
More specifically, the version of "Belleville Rendez-vous" by M.
 
Ell
9:44 PM
Man. Another blister beneath my über blister
 
The unterblister.
 
Ell
I wonder how long before I reach bone
 
@sehe It is Django meets Neptunes. And they like each other..
 
Ell
Bcos I have countless others that want to bone me
You can't.skip the queue :(
 
user1804599
9:47 PM
haha
 
user1804599
> Bitches
 
@ScottW Well, I basically just wanted to know if there is a way I can call overridden functions of derived classes from their base class in c++
 
thanks for that @sehe, i assume the comments were probably UTF-8 — Eiyrioü von Kauyf 1 min ago
^ in some strange encoding that defied both Vim and VS2013-update4 (@EiyrioüvonKauyf)
 
lol, interesting, could be one of those non-standard (i assume) chinese ones
 
I assume things similar
 
9:48 PM
@sehe SJIS?
 
Also, the compiler doesn't care about the comments anyways
 
yupyup stripping and all
one thing to give MS, their internationalization isnt bad
 
I think the abc.xyz thing is a hoax / viral marketing
 
@sehe Except when the comments in SJIS accidentally, because of the SJIS encoding, end up with backslash. :)
 
@wilx did this happen to you once (I'm too lazy to find out whether that is possible/probable)
 
user1804599
9:51 PM
@sehe Don't listen to @Eyjafjallajökull.
 
Nice one
 
@sehe Yes.
 
wow. That'll teach you not to sell information to Chinese hackers ;)
 
user1804599
hackers aren't chinese you racist
 
user1804599
xD
 
user1804599
9:54 PM
ethical hackers aren't racist
 
I specifically described it as "the notify feature of the Storage component", linking to the documentation :) You can use that documentation to find information about option semantics, i.e. you can have custom notification functions. I think it's pretty much possible to do whatever you want, but I'd recommend keeping it simple. The variables are simple. You can't have your cake and eat it too. — sehe 9 mins ago
People have a lack of imagination. Judging an answer by the sample given. Not looking an inch past their noses. Now, imagine what would have happened had I elected not to give a sample to avoid that...
 
but the investor.google.com link points to abc.xyz.. hmmm.... hmmmmmmm
 
@ScottW I missed this
 
@wilx I take it, that you don't know an answer then. On SO and the web, I only get answers on how to call base methods from overridden methods, not the other way around.
 
ALS EEN BEER
HAHAHA
 
9:55 PM
sorry wanted to refer to :25007844
 
@sehe SJIS is mostly used for Japanese. I used to work for Alpine Electronics as externalists. It being a Japanese company, had sources in Engrish with comment in SJIS in Japanese.
 
> I take it, that you don't know an answer then
That is the hallmark of the desperate help vampire, fyi
 
I am desperate actually, yes
 
@HarrySilver Up arrow edits. Spend a few minutes reading the newbie hints ("rules")
@HarrySilver :( I'm sorry to hear that
 
Beh I need to store more emergency food
 
9:56 PM
@wilx woop woop. You go places. Cool story though. One I'll try to remember
 
Ell
I started implementing shiftJIS when I was writing my .sfw parser because I didn't know what I was getting myself into
 
@HarrySilver google "c++ virtual functions"
The wikipedia article, which is the first result seems to explain what you want to know
In object-oriented programming, a virtual function or virtual method is a function or method whose behavior can be overridden within an inheriting class by a function with the same signature. This concept is an important part of the polymorphism portion of object-oriented programming (OOP). == Purpose == The concept of the virtual function solves the following problem: In object-oriented programming, when a derived class inherits from a base class, an object of the derived class may be referred to via a pointer or reference of the base class type instead of the derived class type. If there are...
 
Aug 1 at 0:26, by milleniumbug
https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/3dbns5/stl_fixes_in_vs_2015_part_2/ct3qhix
 
@Prismatic yes, but he's desperate (adi. noobspeak for "My ego depletion prevents me from following any more leads")
 
@Prismatic Thanks a bunch, I'll have a look at it.
 
9:59 PM
@Prismatic ROTFL the domain is strlen.com. These low-level filthy savages
 
In general advice: a long walk and good night's rest diminish/remove ego depletion. Also, practicing an already acquired skill to appreciation helps a lot
 
Time for the timeless recipe, pasta with ketchup
 
Isn't strlen a C function? How can you write code that if you're a C programmer... seems like a bad idea
> pasta with ketchup
real talk you should be thrown in jail for that
 
Hey! :P
 
absolutely disgusting
 
10:02 PM
lol food nerds are here
 
user1804599
@Prismatic std::strlen is nice when you want to acquire the length of a C string.
 
Watching GoT
 
user1804599
Gathering of Tweakers?
 
Goat of Thor
 
@sehe: Imagine a comment like this //test 十 The Chinese character is number 10. Now, if you store it in a test file encoded in SJIS and run it through od -a you will get 0000000 / / t e s t sp si \ nl
Bam!
 
10:05 PM
Anyway, time to go to bed. Bye & love everyone <3
 
cya
 
@Prismatic That worked like a charm, thank you very much!; Thought I would have an easy time with C++ by knowing Java and C; guess I was wrong about that haha. :)
 
@wilx Deadly
@HarrySilver You should have. I guess you learned that you grok Java and C less than you previously thought
 
@sehe Could be. In our case it was usually a compile time error, IIRC. :)
 
> I disagree. As a counterexample, I went from beginner to expert level in just one decade, and I'm not some bizarre freak of nature. (Okay, I am, but not in this respect.) And I wasted a year and a half of my life learning C, which I'll never get back. STL
 
10:11 PM
@sehe "Just a decade." :D
 
@sehe So by not knowing C++'s inheritance model I don't know java and c? what? :o
 
@sehe i argue expert isnt a thing, also i'm amused at torvalds rant on C++ not that i disagree
@HarrySilver we're not looking to argue with you, we dont really care
why do we have beer but not chocolate milk, this is very sad
 
@HarrySilver By not being able to easily assimilate C++'s inheritance model, you showed that your mental model of the same in Java (and arguably C) wasn't as complete as you thought it was.
 
Almost like spaghetti
 
have any of you worked with skia before?
 
10:20 PM
@sehe Well, I, frankly, disagree; I'm not here to argue, don't give me that. Have a good night, I won't be importuning you any further.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf What is this "we" you are talking for?
 
> importune: ask (someone) pressingly and persistently for or to do something
awww yeah, learned a new word today
I wonder if Skia does draw call ordering and optimization since I think it has a GL back end. Hmmm hmmmm I should send their mailing list some spam
 
wow check this out
that $65/hour salary looks sexy
 
Totally legit
 
you have to have 5 years of experience with practically everything though
 
10:23 PM
lel
 
@Prismatic lmao right
 
Strong use of redundancy
 
also the just 7-day application window seems super suspicious
 
Maybe he programs in JS
 
also it's a temp position
 
10:25 PM
Pardon my naiveness but what's so suspicious about it?
 
the completely unreasonable amounts of experience required in every possible technology, the tiny application window, the massive remuneration
 
Also external site where 'pay rate' is available only after logging in
 
@DonLarynx LOL
> need young gril
 
I need those too. One is not enough
 
10:32 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ ok you can argue with him
 
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Q: A Chain of Incompetence or How Stack Overflow Actually Works

Your Common SenseWant to see how Stack Overflow actually works? I'll be delighted to show you, not by empty declarations from the help pages but from the very practical field examples. Case #1. Here comes along a professional programmer, consultant who offers his service for hire, who decided to consult this ti...

^^ dat title
 
shit
@DonLarynx 5 years experience effective oral and comm skills?
 
You're not supposed to look straight into the camera when being interviewed. Bruce Schneier shows why. http://www.tenable.com/blog/bruce-schneier-on-security-metrics-that-matter
lel
 
i've only been effective speaking for 1 year darn
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Talk for yourself next time.
 
10:36 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Or do like me and plonk him yourself last time :)
 
@Mysticial Decided to summarize rather than repost.
 
> Fuck off, you elitist shit.
puppy mad
 
@Prismatic LOL I just read this
@Puppy let me borrow some rep so I can use the link?
 
mysticial posted a screenie of the Q in the comments
 
@Mysticial wow
"As you probably know, negative score can be achieved on Stack Overflow only for a language that average housewife can find frustrating" - what? I can probably come up with a theory on why you post this rant. However, I'm not sure it's worth investing the time. — sehe 13 secs ago
 
10:41 PM
well
if the guy with far too much reputation can't accurately summarize matters, who can
 
@Puppy Wow. It's striking how similar the "questions" in these cases are
 
@sehe After reviewing the original, I ultimately wasn't actually sure if they were.
but I'm glad you agree.
 
@Puppy Yesh. My take on it is that he's acting out his guilt complex
 
@sehe I was referring to myself ;p
 
@Puppy Oh, I didn't digest it fully. Just scanned
@Puppy lol
 
10:44 PM
@Mysticial: Thanks for the image. I just posted that as an addendum to my answer.
 
> I am CIMA Qualified and hold a B.Sc Physical Science degree at university of Sri Jayawardenapura of SriLanka.
 
@Puppy No problem. There should be a gold badge for calling the OP a bitch and getting a ton of upvotes.
 

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